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Alright let's do this.
I've skimmed most of the game at this point - it doesn't seem like much of the middle 20 pages or so is really relevant at this point.
I feel that Titus is actually a better scum prospect than Lying Cat. I find myself agreeing with Majiffy's recent thoughts on her, and also found the post restriction stuff early on super fishy.
The only player I have a really strong townread on is wicked. GG looks town from their most recent posts, but very early on had some seemingly scummy behavior, which is throwing me off (especially because they seem to be read across the board as town).
So yeah, with four days left until deadline I am gonna UNVOTE: , VOTE: Titus.
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Tbh I have barely read the middle section. It's just that no one has really been talking about it recently. And the day is too close to deadline to spend time reading stuff that doesn't seem to be relevant at the moment.In post 1635, Bulbazak wrote:Bulbazak's Catchup Reads
This slot hasn't really done anything for me to get a solid read on them. The only thing that I noticed was Ac saying that nothing happened in the middle section, when that was actually where all the important information is that helped me get solid reads.Null
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Anyway it looks like there are now 5 votes on Titus so I'm gonna stay on this wagon.
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I am already on the Titus wagon.In post 1735, Majiffy wrote:
Would you vote Titus if need be? Because Titus is scum ergo needs to be voted.In post 1734, ac1983fan wrote:I will switch to mastin if need be to achieve a lynch. Will check in tomorrow.
but that looks like that needs to change.
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I think scum is in:
Titus, Lying Cat, Speedy Saki, Bulbazak, beastcharizard, and MTD (dark horses for scum would be peregrineV or Majiffy (who I can never get a read on))
Titus vs. Saki yesterday looks decidedly Scum v. Scum, and Titus's hammer post sets off so many alarm bells.
Bulbazak has basically not contributed any original thoughts and if GG is town (which I think they likely are) then Bulbazak is almost assuredly scum
Lying Cat's presence has sort of gone away since the pressure was lifted off of them though IIRC that's not entirely for in-game reasons
beastcharizard is mostly a gut thing.
MTD has just been abdicating responsibility for all of his actions and most of his early posts are textbook active lurking
Bulbazak, beastcharizard, and Speedy Saki were all off the wagon yesterday so I think we should lynch one of titus, Lying Cat, or MTD, and I actually feel like the best option right now is VOTE: MTD.Not a dayvig.-
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In post 2008, Titus wrote:AC, my hammer post set up alarm posts. Really? We asked Mastina to claim 5 fucking times at least. I had a specific time set up for when I would hammer, because I had issues to resolve offline. So I hammered. I didn't even WANT Mastina to be the lynch. Still, she was.
This is the part I had a problem with. Totally unnecessary. We needed to lynch and by the time you hammered mastin was the only option. You adding this comment made it look like you were trying so hard to distance yourself from what you knew was a town lynch.In post 1993, Titus wrote: Ugh.. tomorrow we lynch scum k?Not a dayvig.-
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Possible, but FMPOV it looked like distancing. Anyway you could still be town - MTD looks way scummier from over here. Saki is more likely scum than you either - if it is T v. S you're the town. (I suppose it could be T v. T. I do have a hard time reading Metal Sonic.)In post 2014, Titus wrote: Really, you had a problem with that part AC? Bullshit. That's griping about a lynch I NEVER WANTED. Of course I'm going to throw a snide remark. That's me.Not a dayvig.-
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We didn't lynch a doc.In post 2054, Speedy Saki wrote:Nobody saw the mastin crumbs??? And you guys just play as if you guys never lynched our docNot a dayvig.-
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There is not even a 0 in my username.
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There's nothing for me to react to.In post 2087, Majiffy wrote:
No reaction to my fos or attempt to build a wagon on you? No questioning me why? Just going to rebuke with "HAY YOU GOT MY NAME WRONG LOL"?Not a dayvig.-
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In post 2090, Majiffy wrote:
Anyway since MTD has yet to post and I'm the only vote on him that's not doing me much good. And with Titus seemingly town (regardless of Majiffy's affilation - I don't see that sort of gambit happening) that makes UNVOTE: VOTE: Speedy Saki the logical choice.Not a dayvig.-
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This is an interesting choice since pretty much everyone has them as obvtown. I did see some things early on which set me off but hm.In post 2127, pirate mollie wrote:no
VOTE: gg
unless they come up with something awsum which I sincerely doubt.
toe in the sand.
ZZZX v. GG looks so town v. town really.
I am not sure what this question is asking and can therefore not adequately answer it.In post 2179, PeregrineV wrote:@acfan- For your statements where it's relevant, can you show which posts, or at least give examples?Not a dayvig.-
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Heyyy finally a case! Wow.
This is a fair assessment of BPC's contributions.In post 2195, Majiffy wrote:tl;dr
1) Replaces a slot with no pro-town contribution, a lot of active lurking and flying under the radar.
I'm not generally very confrontational as town. I try to figure out who I think is scum, then compare that to the popular opinion, and cast my vote accordingly. I always get accused of not scumhunting so that's whatever. But I don't understand how my votes have no justification - I just don't see the point of repeating things others have already said. If someone else has made the case for lynching someone more elegantly than I, then it's simple enough to just vote for them.Majiffy wrote: 2) All votes have been non-confrontational. Offers no active reasoning, no hint of scumhunting. Looks self-conscious by overly reinforcing votes with no justification.
This one I don't get. There's only once or twice I can think of where as town I really got pissed about being wagoned on - when I hydra'd as Team Rocket with Elyse. This was because literally every point brought against us was completely illogical. Here, no one presented any reason to vote for me - so no point in trying to defend myself. And while I'm not sure where it is in my past games, I know i have posted about my general philosophy about being voted or suspected as town - I am town, and I know I am town, so I don't really care if people vote for me because of that.Majiffy wrote: 3) Poor reactions to being wagoned today.Not a dayvig.-
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Oh, also
The kind of entrance one makes when they replace into a game and want to make sure they don't have a vote placed somewhere they don't want it to be.In post 2194, Majiffy wrote: 2)
What kind of entrance is this?In post 1349, ac1983fan wrote:UNVOTE:
Skimming vote counts. Y'all are 50 pages into D1 and the highest wagon you have right now is L-5? For shame.
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Sure.In post 2199, PeregrineV wrote: I was referring to this.
Titus - Saki scum-on-scumIn post 2006, ac1983fan wrote:I think scum is in:
Titus, Lying Cat, Speedy Saki, Bulbazak, beastcharizard, and MTD (dark horses for scum would be peregrineV or Majiffy (who I can never get a read on))
Titus vs. Saki yesterday looks decidedly Scum v. Scum, and Titus's hammer post sets off so many alarm bells.
Bulbazak has basically not contributed any original thoughts and if GG is town (which I think they likely are) then Bulbazak is almost assuredly scum
Lying Cat's presence has sort of gone away since the pressure was lifted off of them though IIRC that's not entirely for in-game reasons
beastcharizard is mostly a gut thing.
MTD has just been abdicating responsibility for all of his actions and most of his early posts are textbook active lurking
Bulbazak, beastcharizard, and Speedy Saki were all off the wagon yesterday so I think we should lynch one of titus, Lying Cat, or MTD, and I actually feel like the best option right now is VOTE: MTD.
Bulba echoing others (it seems like you are saying he is basically copying others. If this is the case, would like to see where you see that. if you just are generally saying Bulba is not presenting original information in a slam type way, then nm).
Lying Cat- I agree, nothing needed here.
MTD- Posts where he is "abdicating responsibility".
Titus/Saki - don't really think this is s v. s anymore because of Majiffy's claim of evidence that Titus is not scum, but their interactions on page 73 are what gave me the strongest sense that was the case.
Bulba - his big read post. It looked like Bulba was trying to give the appearance of having put in a lot of effort into making his reads. However, basically all his reads were restatements of the general popular opinion at the time.
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I resent the "no active involvement" remark.In post 2221, Majiffy wrote:
Lukewarm, non-controversial reads, non-presence, and no active involvement.
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There is only one backup inventor in the setup per page one.In post 2274, Speedy Saki wrote:
this was unintentionalIn post 2273, Metal Sonic wrote:
did he crumb the role prior to his claim?In post 2271, vezokpiraka wrote:
People are afraid of killing him cause he is uncced and I really think the back-up is town.In post 2270, Speedy Saki wrote:go ISO Bipolarchemist (i quite liked the guy)... he didnt crumb the role at all! why would anyone in the right mind buy this acdude's claim????
scum have fake claims so i don't think "uncced" ever means anything in a theme game.
i am sorry antihero
Seriously dude have you even READ anything about this game? First you call mastin2 a doc, now this.
Don't 100% remember but I think it had to do with GG's interactions with Bulba after Bulba's read post, and the whole "I think you're town so tough" bit.
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Hmmm.
At least one of Bulbazak, MTD, and Saki would need to be town I think, based off of their interactions right now (Saki v. Bulba, Bulba voting for both of them)
I'm not sure who is most likely to be town of these three though.
I think the right place for my vote right now is VOTE: BulbazakNot a dayvig.-
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"Suddenly"In post 2332, MTD wrote: But srsly, GG is suddenly finding hell of a lot of things about me scummy, considering that he recently said he mainly wanted to lynch me because he "owed mastin a favor".
GG has been scumreading you for quite a while dude.Not a dayvig.-
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Fair enough. I'm down with an MTD or Saki lynch, I just figured it would be nice to have a lynch ASAP since we already had one claim today.In post 2391, PeregrineV wrote:Lost a more wordy post answer, but polarized, equal wagons provide tighter scrutiny for voters and non-voters (Why did you vote A over B? Why are you not voting A or B?), especially after the flip.
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This is correct. mastin2 gave a power to someone. No idea who though - that's not something I would have access to.In post 2453, Bulbazak wrote:
I thought that inventors gave their abilities out during the day, so that should mean that Mastin got her ability to someone, right?In post 2452, Guilty Gunsmith wrote:
acFan said he couldn't use his last night because of the timing; mastin was lynched so didn't get to use hers (presumably). I got a Track shot. Vezok got a Jail shot. There is one left unaccounted for by my numbers.In post 2451, Lying Cat wrote:Four. There should have been four.Not a dayvig.-
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LyingCat was basically a non-presence on Day 2. Day 3 comes around and as soon as there is a wagon on them again, bam, mega active.
This feels textbook scum behavior...?
Beastcharizard has just slipped under the radar for this whole game with a few people scumreading him but nobody able to get anything going on him, which is making me super uncomfortable at this point.
VOTE: beastcharizard.
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In post 2845, Bulbazak wrote:In post 2840, ac1983fan wrote:LyingCat was basically a non-presence on Day 2. Day 3 comes around and as soon as there is a wagon on them again, bam, mega active.
This feels textbook scum behavior...?
Then why not vote them?
Already a wagon on them that's gaining steam; I'll shift onto it if it loses steam. But I think beastcharizard is a better person to vote for right now.Not a dayvig.-
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Hm. I dunno. I'm not sold on Lying Cat as town. And I'm really starting to question my townread on GG...The way Saki was voted for here looks terribly opportunistic.
Marquis wagon is terribad.
VOTE: beastcharizard
this is a longshot but again there is a lot of soft support for his lynch and his interactions with Marquis point to at least one of them being scum - probably him.Not a dayvig.-
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In post 3119, beastcharizard wrote:Actually the Beast Wagon is terrabad. I am town.
I think one of Marquis/Metal is scum. You all think one of me and Marquis is scum.
Notice how Marquis is in a lot of these "one of two" scum scenarios.
Must be the Bystandard Effect.
Wow wow wow deflecting much?
You being town and Marquis being scum is the least likely possible scenario here. Marquis and you both being scum? I could definitely see that. but for the moment, everything suggests town!Marquis and scum!you.Not a dayvig.-
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In post 3127, pirate mollie wrote:In post 3120, ac1983fan wrote:In post 3119, beastcharizard wrote:Actually the Beast Wagon is terrabad. I am town.
I think one of Marquis/Metal is scum. You all think one of me and Marquis is scum.
Notice how Marquis is in a lot of these "one of two" scum scenarios.
Must be the Bystandard Effect.
Wow wow wow deflecting much?
You being town and Marquis being scum is the least likely possible scenario here. Marquis and you both being scum? I could definitely see that. but for the moment, everything suggests town!Marquis and scum!you.
in what way?
cos I am not seeing it
also I keep forgetting about you. why is that?
I don't think beastcharizard has posted without being mentioned in this game once & Marquis' posts just scream town motivation - not 100% sure i can put my finger on why.
I replaced in around 50 pages in on Day 1, was semi-active D2, and then have been pretty busy during D3. Also, my posts tend to be short and to the point since I don't see the point in repeating the thoughts of others.Not a dayvig.-
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In post 3135, pirate mollie wrote:
that ac thing is doing nothing for me. I can't tell if he is newbtown or newbscum he confuses me
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In post 3134, ZZZX wrote:I am ready to go with a beast lynch as I explained a while ago.
Then...Why aren't you voting for him?????????Not a dayvig.-
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In post 3145, pirate mollie wrote:In post 3139, ac1983fan wrote:In post 3135, pirate mollie wrote:
that ac thing is doing nothing for me. I can't tell if he is newbtown or newbscum he confuses me
Pls look at my registration date thanks
okay I was pwned in this post
why aren't you more assertive? why are you not trying to coalesce?
plz explain this to me
No problem. To be fair this is my first game in over a year, and I have played pretty sporadically over the years.
I'm not very assertive because I am not that good of a player of mafia. My only truly successful town game where I actually was sort of important (Open 118), I was an investigative PR role. I also experimented with being a bit more aggressive in Doctor Who Mafia, but there I was a four shot anytime vig who was basically cleared day 1 and then died night 2 before I could do anything of true import.
I've definitely struggled at getting a handle on the game, particularly since it is a large and there haven't been as many obvscum players as my past larges (probably due to it being monoscum?). If i get really confident about a read I will probably push the lynch a bit harder.Not a dayvig.-
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