X-Men: Age of Apocalypse (Game Over)

[Metal Sonic]

not this game dearie

i think you're scum too

[Metal Sonic]

so MS titus is town but now your going to PL her b/c im gonna flip town. explain plz

when i flip town pl snowstorm. or at least dayvig his ass tommorow. you can deal with titus later.

p-edit: i was saying i hinted his role not him. hes already made his claim and is now stuck to it.

if anyone wants a hint to his role they will notice something about a single post.

p-edit: they why dayvig me again if they are scum?

when i flip town i cant wait for the lolz to be shown that im town

snwostrom is scum btw, read his iso and how he had to "make" scum reads somewhere.

metal sonic you need to learn not to premept dayvig someone. if anything you should of dayviged your scum read who you said was titus.

Fine, whatever, you've proven your point, now go put your vote on scum.

So help me lynch Titus

Titus is town. Pick someone else.

I will take that as a scum claim.

VOTE: snow

[Metal Sonic]

i thought ika wanted to push snowstorm? meh whatever

titus is obvscum screw the objectives ETC

vote titus[/vote]

This post makes me doubt both ika and sonuc.

Who in their right mind thinks ika wanted to punish Snow?

must i bold where ika said "snow is scum" for you titus?

[Metal Sonic]

we are in the same hood.

[Metal Sonic]

1) I don't deal in crumbs. I leave that to my townreads. Plus supersaint in a game about hammers is likely a scumclaim.
2) You would have plausible unvoting. See your post asking eek to unvote
3) There is the answer to the policy lynch metal Eek.

these did not parse and made no sense.

please rephrase

[Metal Sonic]

so MS titus is town but now your going to PL her b/c im gonna flip town. explain plz

when i flip town pl snowstorm. or at least dayvig his ass tommorow. you can deal with titus later.

p-edit: i was saying i hinted his role not him. hes already made his claim and is now stuck to it.

if anyone wants a hint to his role they will notice something about a single post.

p-edit: they why dayvig me again if they are scum?

when i flip town i cant wait for the lolz to be shown that im town

snwostrom is scum btw, read his iso and how he had to "make" scum reads somewhere.

metal sonic you need to learn not to premept dayvig someone. if anything you should of dayviged your scum read who you said was titus.

Fine, whatever, you've proven your point, now go put your vote on scum.

So help me lynch Titus

Titus is town. Pick someone else.

I will take that as a scum claim.

VOTE: snow

bolded and LArge'd because you couldnt see them

[Metal Sonic]

are you phone posting? if you are, i wont torture you. i have to go to bed anyway,

[Metal Sonic]

ugh, sorry, i feel your pain

i wont ask you any more questions for now, but just know that im already looking at you from tinted glasses, and that if you are indeed truly scum, your lynch would be inevitable. then you'll have to lie and make noise, right?

if you are town, it would be quite easy to see. currently, not yet, which is why i do genuinely believe that you're being dishonest and that i am on the right track

[Metal Sonic]

that makes no sense at all

you're the ika expert, YOU'RE supposed to tell us!

[Metal Sonic]

It's already Tuesday for me

[Metal Sonic]

True motives shown indeed!

[Metal Sonic]

i dont see anything in his ISO that actually gives me a very nice townread either


your massive defense is taken into consideration tho

along with your convenient scumread of me

[Metal Sonic]

this bad boy hydraes with AP^

dont mess around

[Metal Sonic]

ok, ETL, deal with muffin.

he's now hyper baseless defending AP on shit he doesn't know an inkling about.

if AP is scum, that slot will be deleted very soon.



-> still lol-ing at vig being negative utility

[Metal Sonic]

option c: ap is scum

[Metal Sonic]

read the last couple pages at least.

well i didnt. lol.

[Metal Sonic]

the 2nd one

i was referring directly to my role pm

i only thought that it got shot to selectively corroborate my AP push

[Metal Sonic]

Also like 80% on BBMolla being scum in our hood.

75% on toog.

And so far, the only rationale I've seen behind your scum read is: "I hate playing with you." "You're an anti-town fuck." and "Rogue, let's be friends, everyone else in the hood can die."


The fact that people can't see the continuous back-tracking and role rewriting ULF is doing just makes me want to...

*headdesk*
*headdesk*
*headdesk*
*headdesk*
*headdesk*
*headdesk*
*headdesk*
*headdesk*


ULF initially claims he picks three targets, and if one of them is killed, he is notified of which faction kills them.
He then says he watches people to see who visits them. 3 Targets being watched, mind you.
bork questions him which it is.
He says he's a modified watcher, and is notified if anyone visits them, and that he just said shot because he was thinking about AP.
I point out that he claimed to "watch" 3 people last night and that none of them died, so he got no results, which means he was still operating under the "I only watch for shootings" mindset.

So are we to assume that of the 3 people he targeted Night 1, ONLY Nero was targeted, and it was ONLY by the Horseman faction? And then we have to assume again, since he's obviously still not clear about his role pm being shots vs. visits, that the 3 people he watched last night also were not targeted by a single faction?


Again... this is a Watcher that can view

THREE

people at once, one of which was assumed to be a tracker going into the Night Phase, and no one was targeted?

Finally, let's just discuss the ridiculousness of the role itself. What would a role like that even accomplish? You get to know the names of the factions in the game? At best, it can only confirm if someone was killed by town or scum, or any living person that was targeted by scum is almost guaranteed to be town, so it becomes a weakened Cop role too!

Because I was going to announce if town visited my targets too. Very good, you

[Metal Sonic]

Me

[Metal Sonic]

Please dayvig me

[Metal Sonic]

It will be very pro town to do so

[Metal Sonic]

once again, i am guilty of lynching AP town-vig. that is a mortal sin and i am not angry if i get lynched. i deserve to be lynched. mastin isnt here and probably wont ever come back, so yeah, just kill me. i am doing you all a favor

I'm just as guilty of this and I don't have this attitude (since, you know, lynching me is against my wincon no matter what I am)

So what's with that

Yesterday,

Muffin challenged me with 'if ap flips town you are getting lynched'

I boldly accepted

[Metal Sonic]

Metal Sonic replaces Ultimate Life Form

doubt mastin is coming back

[Metal Sonic]

i wacthed nero, s4td, and [bork]. only nero got a result.

why did i track nero if i thought it was scum?

1) he claimed a pr

2) maybe x fire

3) i have 3 targets and i really had to grasp

mastin probably isnt comnig back and this game is torturous

i was against wincon and it was deeply saddening.

last night i wacthed bork, ika and ETL. none died; no result

This goes back to results. Are they only obtained upon the death of his watched players? No, according to 4958. He supposedly watches all three players, and gets individual results....?

If nobody dies, no results?

Yeah, want this clarified, and soonest.

@

metal

- this is basically to you. Please clarify.

Nah I get results every night for individual players, the only thing that nerfs and prevents my role from being OP is that it doesn't say the name of the visitors, and that the visitors stack

So if 2 town visit the same person whom I watched, I only get. 'Town visited person'

Normally it doesn't mean much for scum cause only 1 scum would visit 1 guy logically right? But for town it can stack which may or may not result in misunderstandings

[Metal Sonic]

'No scum'

That means only town visited you

That also means nothing of interest

Me

[Metal Sonic]

They are saying 2 different things constantly.

I do that all the time!

[Metal Sonic]

You are being unnecessarily fucking vague for a purpose that I can only assume is to stall.

Me? Stall? I'm actively advocating my own lynch, lol!

While doing politically correct actions (e.g. voting the biggest counterwagon, attempting to look for scum), in order to avoid another mishap (you know what I'm talking about)

If you think that any sane scum would fakeclaim a role that is so easily contradictable, and also 3 separate targets each night to fabricate results for, and to also remember all of them so as to not slip/trip/contradict self, you are

greatly mistaken.

Night 1

Nero was visited by The Horsemen, Town

Bork was visited by Town

s4td was visited by Town

Night 2

Bork was visited by Town

ETL was visited by Town

Ika received No Result




now somebody faster counter claim me so that i can be lynched come on scum its your only chance

in return if nobody contradicts me i get a free pass till lylo cause enough of this

[Metal Sonic]

come on scum, you can just say that u visited one of my targets and im lying so i'll get run over...

look at me in such a vulnerable position right now!!!!

just say something so that i can be lynched quick fast and easy no hassle

[Metal Sonic]

oh and if a snowstorm cwagon wants to happen i am up for that

he is likely the mole who let s4td get shot

[Metal Sonic]

it is my fault the vig died though so thers that.

[Metal Sonic]

oh, lol

well

okay fine then i thought that was useless results

[Metal Sonic]

there is a box

inside this box, there could be a bomb, or could be a stash of 24-carat diamonds

IF the box contains the diamonds, you MUST open the box in order to proceed with your next objective.

[Metal Sonic]

VOTE: snowstorm

Confirmed scum who killed s4td



If you guys don't believe me cause of my ap lynch blahblah I can self vote to give achievements to my hood

[Metal Sonic]

I lied about town visiting s4td. I just wanted to see which scumbutt pointed it out

It's called a gambit and I have caught scum

I think

[Metal Sonic]

Town visiting bork + ETL + Nero was correct. S4td DID commute n1, the only other people who would know this were the other people in his hood OR someone who used night actions on him

Considering whoever sniped a commuter n2 and (only 1 kill last night) I may or may not be confbiasing but this confirms my suspicions



When I flip town u can lynch snowstorm right? If yes I vote myself

[Metal Sonic]

Or you can lynch snowstorm today (or Bbmolla I don't care) so that if I were hypothetically scum ( I am only guilty of lynching a AP vig) I would self destruct yes or no


Nobody has contradicted my results yet except for (haha snowstorm my fake beloved princess)

[Metal Sonic]

VOTE: metal sonic

Go ahead

Id love it if you can take my results at face value and stop thinking about it but after what I did to AP and no mastin here yeah okay I can just die

[Metal Sonic]

THIS IS NOT AGAINST MY OWN WIN CONDITION: I AM TRYING TO GET ACHIEVEMENTS FOR MY NEIGHBORHOOD

[Metal Sonic]

Not buying it man

Because retard-scum-me would construct such an elaborate and stupid looking lie right? If I haven't given up at the start of today yet I would be doing more to fight my own lynch but

[Metal Sonic]

Snowstorm is scum. After I flip you should take the risk, cause 'beloved princess' is a cop out

I'm sure they were more than happy to off the vig after I messed up with that

[Metal Sonic]

I lied about town visiting s4td.

I just wanted to see which scumbutt pointed it out

It's called a gambit and I have caught scum

I think

OMFG! Thanks for confirming that, because I wasn't sure.

Why did you have to be sure? You are pretty guilty scum claiming your team shot s4td tonight and I should have watched them again instead of dumb ika so I can catch which team your filthy ass is on

[Metal Sonic]

Not buying it man

Because retard-scum-me would construct such an elaborate and stupid looking lie right? If I haven't given up at the start of today yet I would be doing more to fight my own lynch but

More likely: you got sloppy thinking about the usual fact that no one could normally definitively cc you when you claimed town visited them

Except for here

Scum could cc me

See what I did there?

[Metal Sonic]

But seriously, lynch snowstorm. Playtimes over. He is definitely scum, and if I have to sacrifice myself for objectives+cleaning before Lylo + lynching scum tomorrow then I'll do it

It's towards wincon

[Metal Sonic]

And I'm pretty sure I could claim a normal watcher AND nobody visited Mac n cheese if I was a calculating scum, then call ap a ninja. It's pretty easy. Then making up a story of why I watched Mac n cheese will be a matter of ease.

I don't think you can find any reason why scum me would make this up so that I can be lynched, so I think everyone should just accept that I'm telling the truth.

Well, not all of it. But still

[Metal Sonic]

I pretend to be confused after ap was lynched and say that I got bus driven because of ika forcing me to claim PR

How's that

[Metal Sonic]

Just read my ISO I've been calling snowstorm scum ever since Venmar told me that he was responsible for s4td died

[Metal Sonic]

I'm just playing 'if I were scum'

To demonstrate how illogical and irrational scum-me claiming whatever I am claiming right now

I mean, the only possible alternative is scum me actually has this role and is fake claiming although that would still result in a very different situation from now


Hint: it's town me having this role and attempting to force scumclaims

[Metal Sonic]

*trick scumclaims from really stupid scum

[Metal Sonic]

I mean Venmar can speculate that all he wants but that doesn't mean that the conjecture has any basis in reality.

If I think he's scum I'm not going to advocate his lynch till LyLO when a mislynch will lose either way with 1 night or 2 unless I'm damn fucking sure about it

Ok if I get a scum game next time after I kill the vig I'll claim beloved princess

[Metal Sonic]

Metal sonic is town.

Molla needs rope

How the fuck are you willing to write off this claiming catastrophe as town

No qualms about the Molla read though

All the more I should be town for the claiming catastrophe

If I were scum id avoid all this altogether

[Metal Sonic]

OR SS?

vote SS with me

VOTE: snowstorm

[Metal Sonic]

nobody but me seems to be attempting to actually fucking figure it out.

Actually that isn't true - I think snowstorm is doing this too.

But Metal called him caught scum for a reaction to something (calling out Metal lying about seeing town visit S4TD) that he hasn't adequately explained at all

i called him a scum way earlier on

i was just confbiasing

[Metal Sonic]

well but since nobody has balls to lynched our "beloved princess"

you better hope he is some shitty goon and not some OP scum PR



i'm not sure if molla is town or scum, i like him calling me town though, but

in order to proceed wit hthe town survivalism that is necessitated by being a "good player"

i have to put my vote obligatorily on the other counterwagon because (i know i am town) or something along that line

VOTE: bbmolla

[Metal Sonic]

And none of the people left who could have visited Nero N1 are even remotely attempting to defend his claim

So what the fuck gives here?

a+ rolefish though

nero is a town jailkeeper. you'd think

[Metal Sonic]

i wasnt lying about town visitng nero though >_>

just so thats clear

[Metal Sonic]

If 'Hey I need to know if a person visited Nero in order to catch a possible scum' is rolefishing

THEN GUESS I'M A FUCKING ROLEFISHER

if said person believed that his own safety was more important than catching "possible scum" (note: if said person is on the camp that I am town, this person would probably not outright claim), then said person wouldn't claim.

point is: the person would have claimed already by now, if he thought that it was a pressing enough issue.

[Metal Sonic]

you know that the only possible (and safe) way to get a conclusive result from what you are doing can only happen late game, right?

[Metal Sonic]

No I guess I don't see that

oh and 1 last point:

lets say you're right and im scum. i could get one of my goon buddies to answer your question for me and claim to visit nero. so what exactly does that accomplish?


point is: i dont see how your asking if a town person visited nero accomplishes anything, even if i am town, or i am scum

[Metal Sonic]

I am inclined to let the people who say he is obvious scum (but won't say why) fight it out with the people who think he is obvious town (but won't say why)

this is a good idea

im sorry you have to bear the burden to figure all this shit out



(i love bork)

[Metal Sonic]

lets say you're right and im scum. i could get one of my goon buddies to answer your question for me and claim to visit nero. so what exactly does that accomplish?

because the minute he flipped scum you'd be next

because he wont be flipping scum any time soon. what, do i then get a free pass to ride off said hypothetical scumbuddy's towniness?

[Metal Sonic]

damn im bad

[Metal Sonic]

what i meant to say was:

In this hypothetical scenario, Said teammate will not flip scum before I flip scum, because in the current condition that I am in, all logic points towards me dying before he does. Therefore, if I were scum, your plan of getting a "townie to confirm me", where the "townie" that confirms me is a hypothetical scumteammate, would allow me to live longer, while bringing minimal risk to myself.

[Metal Sonic]

Unless, of course, the other scumteam does kill my hypothetical scumteammate, as he had claimed a PR. Only then, will I "be next".

[Metal Sonic]

Said teammate will not flip scum before I flip scum, because in the current condition that I am in, all logic points towards me dying before he does.

I'm not sure I agree with this premise, considering 1) multiball and 2) the lack of specific circumstances behind said goon's fakeclaim

How does multiball affect my premise in any way? Considering that my hypothetical scumteammate is currently at a townier position than I am, it is very unlikely that he gets lynched before I do. Which then only leads to the possibility that he gets nightkilled first.

I'm not sure how there is a lack of specific circumstances behind said goon's fakeclaim, when you are loudly appealing for said person to come out and claim to have visited Nero.

Best of all, my visitors stack. So if a scumteammate fakeclaims to have visited Nero, and there is a Town who DID visit Nero, counterclaims would be unable to happen.

[Metal Sonic]

Clarification

1) i was perfectly aware that s4td was a commuter and wanted to see which scumboy would notice, because they would pay attention to such things. Of all people, snowstorm was the one who pointed it out, coincidently the major suspect for killing s4td last night.

2) it's confirmed multiball because of my results

Of course there is another train of thought that I made this whole shit up by pulling stuff from marvelwiki, and am actually a major badass liar or blue team still a liar

[Metal Sonic]

And I'm never sloppy as scum you hear me???

All my scum games are very calculated

Xeno 2, organic chemistry, these 2 major scum games



Because I am 'sloppy' according the bork it should auto confirm me IC

Bad logic but I'm trying to make a point

[Metal Sonic]

And I'm never sloppy as scum you hear me???

yeah you are. You gave away PV in your dying posts in Organic Chemistry.

It's comes as a free gift if I die

I was not expecting to get swept clean

[Metal Sonic]

After getting perfect miynches for the first 3 days with more planned to come

[Metal Sonic]

I won??? HELL YEAH!!!!!


YOU GO, TEAM!

[Metal Sonic]

k

so sup I'm town, who is scum, I'll dayvig them

Me

the best

[Metal Sonic]

my skills of blood self-sacrifice

gave my team the perfect win

much thanks to toog for hyper carry skills

and skot for lurker master

[Metal Sonic]

well,

perfect minus the self sacrifice of course

[Metal Sonic]

I fake claimed because me/skot/ika were in a hood so I had to self terminate to give him elbow room to endgame

All 3 members of red team were bussing me

Including me