Pathfinder Mafia - GAME OVER

[ActionDan]

Hi guys. I've read all 20 pages which is a small miracle from me so prepare your anuses.

VOTE: Varsoon

For someone who intermittently feels the need to voice his annoyance about town not scumhunting or feat selection planning or focusing way too much on the miller, he has not contributed significantly to be part of a solution to his proposed ploblems he claims are plaguing town.

The other part of my suspicion lies in his vote for dragons but claiming later that they looked town-as-fuck, which while coming after a few of their posts, feels more like a retconned read because previous to the dragons vote they had produced material sufficient to have reached that same conclusion considering their posts after varsoons vote aren't particular game changers being mostly retorts and repetitions of previous points.

I'd like to borrow in whole tammys opinion of titus which is less than stellar. It's worth noting I'd most likely lynch monkey first though not for any slip but for the posts immediately after that accusation.

Nero displaced dragons flum and tammy are town reads. Due to their opinions not being laughable chunks of garbage.

I do also think muffin is town but he might as well be on ignore.

Cirno is probably town bit also a herpaderp

[ActionDan]

Ill talk later since im on the run. Ive got some more to say when time permits

[ActionDan]

In the mean time, Titus, who you currently scumreads and why?

I have a hard time believing you'd vote titus without having a clear idea. The question is perfunctory in this sense as it was plain they were monkey and nain

[ActionDan]

I'm disappointed in peregrines recent vote and its accompanied explaination being utterly simplistic and not thought out. It also makes me question vezok and anks townreading the slot for something so faulty.

[ActionDan]

murder of crows is absolutely not scumhunting in any appreciable manner and what fferyllt has posted is unremarkable. AP has been posting elsewhere and question whether he's displaying intentional restraint.

[ActionDan]

If lack of effort put into scumhunting/playing is indicative of scumminess...

It's not to me. I lurk like a champ. I'm also good at figuring out people with minimal content

[ActionDan]

Speaking of lurkers, here are players with less than 10 posts:

Sorcerer Madness 4(replacing out)
ActionDan/beastcharizard 5
PeregrineV 6
Ankamius 7
Narninian 9
Natirasha 5
d3x 7(vla)

Tell me where they touched you.

[ActionDan]

Narninian, at what point exactly did your titus vote become nonrandom, and for what reason?

[ActionDan]

Sure? I tell people I lurk as town when I'm scum. It happens to be true and sometimes I don't get lynched for it. Thus it's a null tell for me and why I treat it as a null tell for others

[ActionDan]

It looks to me like I've posted 10 times within 10 hours on the same Friday I joined the game. I state my own meta to let people come to their own conclusions not about my activity this game which is objectivly exemplary but about how I perceive varsoons self describing as a lurker

[ActionDan]

I have to ask if you're aware I just replaced into the game on the last page?

[ActionDan]

Well it's actually about attempting to counter varsoon wittingly or unwittingly reducing my suspicion against him to that of a mere suspicion on the grounds of him being a lurker. Your opinion is however noted and summarily discarded as farcical.

[ActionDan]

My approach to miller claims is to see how the player's body of work shapes up over time, so I won't be ignoring muffin.

To be perfectly clear I don't townread muffin because he's claimed miller. I just think he's town via posting. I said he should be on ignore is because I disagree with many of posts.

[ActionDan]

Peregrine in regards to your case on post 364 and your acceptance that it's ok to question and criticize your fellow wagonners mentioned in post 371, what exactly lends you to vote displaced?

[ActionDan]

I believe I said "anuses". That was the soul of the post

[ActionDan]

You'll find I have a lot to say when I read up. The reading takes hard long hours though and games with 6000 pages affect my determination, requiring additional impetus' to get me moving. They often come in the form of threats to lynch me.

[ActionDan]

That being said it's been clear for a while that monkey's thoughts are better off not read. The problem is that he's also a VI. It's difficult to tell if his play srems from that or being scum. He most definitely is worth a vig shot

[ActionDan]

As usual, dragons says it sucks

What are you referring to? Dragons seems to have stamped tentative approval to my thoughts on varsoon

[ActionDan]

He refers to himself as off kilter and not the content which he says is not bad. I am not worried about him not townreading me. Hopefully thay will come in time

[ActionDan]

Would you consider voting with me? You're welcome to brimg your butt buddy along for the ride

[ActionDan]

Take it to mafia discussion

[ActionDan]

He's implying that such a statement is unoriginal and inept. It's statements like these that lead me to believe you're scum rather than a VI. In a VI I'm looking for original thought and conclusions based upon evidence extracted from the thread, even if "thought" is a stand in for convolutional meandering moon logic and "conclusions" assortments of off the wall impossible to prove postulates cemented together by misinterpreted "evidence".

What instead I see is rehashed denouncements of people you've attempted to snipe

[ActionDan]

, I've asked why the wagon died down. There wasn't a counterwagon. It just died.

Because I managed to convince 2 players on it to switch their votes to you.

@Ank have you ever seen scum monkeyman? If you're townreading him for play that you say is alignment indeterminate then you're not being logical. You basically dodged flums inquiry 575 by saying why you'd town read him. The point was that shouldn't if his play could come from scum

[ActionDan]

You shouldn't*

[ActionDan]

I have seen scum-Monkey get lynched day 1. I should figure out what game that was.

Starwars mafia. As a bonus I was scum there too

[ActionDan]

Yes, increasingly so

[ActionDan]

Do you have scumreads? It's been 26 pages and reading your iso again I'm surprised to find ypu haven't casted suspicion on a single person

[ActionDan]

Then you called him a VI.

in the post you refer to I'm not using it in an absolutionist sense to say he's somehow town in this game. It means when he's town in general, he's a VI.

In a subsequent post it refers to this game specifically

[ActionDan]

I don't give townreads to posts like Varsoon is making right now because they are really easy to fake. I know this because I do it routinely.

I'm treating them as if they don't exist

[ActionDan]

I'm town reading him because the way he's connecting things feels almost exactly like what made me tunnel him last time I played.

If you are refering to specific people from this game interacting with him being the primary source of your town read based on the content those other people issue this quoted post would seem to suggest otherwise, placing the brunt upon monkeymans own posts.

[ActionDan]

besides the obvious rejoinder that scum might bus monkeyman just because his play is so spectacularly weak, he has been lynched before on d1 as scum. And in that game he had a 5 man wagon by page 14 whereas here he has 0 votes at 27 pages. Meaning even if he's being attacked at this stage he's hardly being run through and it's distinctly possibly, just like it is for anybody that's criticized, that those berating him are town that notice and respond to scummy/abysmal play.

If I were to generalize your thought process, it comes down to whiteknighting someone for being attacked without consideration for the attackers complaints or their merits. You find monkeymans posts notable only in the sense that you have seen similar posts from him before. Posts you've classified as not indicative of alignment even though you did mention townreading him at a point when titus and only titus was attacking him, so I find it hard to swallow that you townread him solely because titus attacked him especially because at that time you were defending titus

[ActionDan]

And honestly who's even attacking him besides me titus ... and maybe cephir?

[ActionDan]

So why aren't you lurking now?

You shouldn't say things like this, people may begin to think we aren't masons.

But if you want to know it's that I want to release my full power.

Which tells me that I sense a of lack of d3x and his crappy titus posts.

[ActionDan]

I might be biasing since I originally read the last few pages before my post all at once.

Just let me know when you're ready to completely recant the totallity of everything you've said concerning monkeyman or anything related to him

[ActionDan]

*tired of people I am scum reading attacking my play*.

The irony is you're voting for possibly the one person who has expressly decided to not attack your play

[ActionDan]

*tired of people I am scum reading attacking my play*.

The irony is you're voting for possibly the one person who has

expressly

decided to not attack your play

Um, very few people have attacked my play, actually, so that's quite the exaggeration.

[ActionDan]

Monkey man's "tangents" were largely of his own creation with the sole expection of being accused of scum slipping.

[ActionDan]

Show me what you mean.

The lurking crusade would be a good example of a tangent made of his own creation. There aren't others really besides the occasional fluff post but it's certianly untrue that other people "force" tangents upon him. People that question him have invariably questioned about his scum read of the day which I dont consider a tangent

[ActionDan]

Will post later

[ActionDan]

I used the wrong phrasing anyhow. "Forced tangent" should really be more like "He said something really weird but inconsequential that he had to continue when other people pressured him about it." He always gets off these sidetracks and back to the game quickly instead of continuing these trains of thought.

Again, I see nothing besides Titus saying he scum slipped that reflects this behavior.

ActionDan was disagreeing with me, unless I was misunderstanding him.

More like you challenged me on a position that wasn't even relevant to the case I was presenting, not the other way around.

These last pages have been boring. I do get an impression that Serra is on the town side of things but my feelings about everyone else are unchanged and like dragons, I feel there are a list of people I'd be down to lynch with only minor preferences between them.

D3x recent post is not terrible like the other ones that came before.

[ActionDan]

I'm lurking? That's news to me.

Granted my activity has dropped a bit I guess? There is very little to actually say of any appreciable value for the last few pages.

Of course you could be confusing me being tolerant of lurking with me actually lurking. An honest mistake from scum I guess.

[ActionDan]

can we get some votes on ZZZX so he stops lurking?

Why were you ok with ActionDan lurking, but not ZZZX, nero?

if you want to say "nero why were you ok with the idea of ActionDan lurking, but not ZZZX currently lurking" you probably should type what's between the quotes exactly without skipping a couple of words so it doesn't look like something totally different.

This happens to be a pattern with you though.

[ActionDan]

Peregrine is more likely scum than town. Perhaps you aren't that great at reading him. In fact if you are town Ank, my guess is you've been very wrong this game. That said I am not going to cry if you're lynched.

[ActionDan]

I would lynch half this player list right now.

Murder of Crows is almost blatantly scum at this point.
PV isn't doing anything.
Monkey could completely be scum.
Varsoon is a scumbutt.
Ankamius is also a scumbutt.
ZZZX is useless.
Titus is a scumbutt.
Tammy isn't doing anything.

There's something wrong with this list, but the first thing it suggests to me is that we shouldn't be lynching PV/ZZZX today.

Tammy is town probably. Uh, the rest, more or less spot on though I am the slightest bit hesitant wrt Titus/Ank. Everyone else can diaf

pedit: one of your first posts was "Yay Peregrine is town!". Yaaaa.

[ActionDan]

I'm well aware.

[ActionDan]

Crow's replace out looked more like overwhelmed town to me.

nope. "I'm sorry guys" is par for the course with anyone replacing out

[ActionDan]

I'll vote peregrine over ank if that gains more votes

[ActionDan]

Titus what's your lvl 2 and 3 abilities?

[ActionDan]

hmm. at all levels my own abilities are strictly better than yours. My lvl1 ability counters strongmans too but it's just a lot better. So.

[ActionDan]

The case on me was ironclad?

Wow.

It's solid in describing you being illogical imo. I'm positive that translates to scummy

[ActionDan]

Not*

[ActionDan]

i have. Adequately.

and i don't care much about your desire to lynch him later for policy but the fact you'd townread him on the basis of admittedly null reasons at all.

[ActionDan]

There's 50 min left in day phase

[ActionDan]

Also my role is like incredibly op so I'd like hammer if flum doesn't

[ActionDan]

I'll be around

[ActionDan]

My role is game winning. eventually.

[ActionDan]

up to you though

[ActionDan]

in that case my body is ready

[ActionDan]

VOTE: Titus

[ActionDan]

And thank you

[ActionDan]

You'll live on in the power of my role

[ActionDan]

Hi.

I'll think later.

But I'm pretty sure I want Peregrine/Jaqen MM or Varsoon as a lynch today.

[ActionDan]

I wonder if that kill was a vig shot.

[ActionDan]

Jaqen you're acting ridiculous.

explain your town bbm read

[ActionDan]

VOTE: BBmolla

This is almost interchangeable with a half dozen people tbh.

[ActionDan]

^ unlike last game I'd vote you this game. Js.

[ActionDan]

which last game?

Reck's retrospective

[ActionDan]

I lvled up indeed. Lvl 2 atm

[ActionDan]

Flum is obviously town my dear.

[ActionDan]

I would love to see a case on d3x. While STD has made a couple points to me and I did like them, I want to see what everyone else is thinking.

-Ceph

His posting got somewhat better after his absence D1 from his early play, which I found atrocious. I don't really think he's scum nor the best lynch candidate. I'd have around 5ish people at least I'd rather lynch before him. I guess you can put me down for a null read or close to it. unlike the rest of everybody, besides maybe Narn, I have half as town reads and half as scum... which is probably the highest amount of scumreads I've ever had in a game I think (fun fact).

[ActionDan]

To clarify about Narn, I'd also consider him null

[ActionDan]

Proded. Will attempt to catch up soon

[ActionDan]

Hi I haven't read the last few pages but I've got the gist that Narn is town via throw something (I think; correct me if I'm wrong)

Reading the post above seems like there's hammer talk. As far as my role is concerned, my 'souped up higher level ability' is my level 3 ability (which wins the game, not even kidding, and that doesn't even factor the possibility of what the power attack feat would do, which incidentally the mod hasn't gotten back to me about even though I asked a while ago). I'll be choosing a feat today for my lvl 2. Related to this someone asked me what I thought of Varsoon: I still don't trust him what-so-ever even if he publicly claimed he attained the strongman feat. There's nothing stopping him from using it anyway imo if he were scum. HOWEVER, I will most likely be choosing one of the two BPs and will probably get it, so if I do die (at some point) that should point squarly to him.

[ActionDan]

Hi ceph. I have uber role.

What is the chance I'm also a mason?

[ActionDan]

If they're not masons, why risk drawing the nk by claiming mason if your role is strong? :/

why o why indeed. my little secret

To answer Ceph, I think he's town, as my mason or otherwise.

[ActionDan]

Ugg two prods in a row. I'm not really feeling this game . And by that I mean it's tedious and boring.

Anyway I think Vezok is not as scummy as some others, aka, monkey man, varsoon, jaqen, Ank, Ffery/Molla/ABR's slot (seriously this slot is scum. like for realz)

[ActionDan]

Ugg two prods in a row. I'm not really feeling this game . And by that I mean it's tedious and boring.

Anyway I think Vezok is not as scummy as some others, aka, monkey man, varsoon, jaqen, Ank, Ffery/Molla/ABR's slot (seriously this slot is scum. like for realz)

ZZZx should be here too. this list functions as the people I want to see dead very soon. Maybe Ank not quite as much as the other 4.

[ActionDan]

he's actually scum

[ActionDan]

Hammer plz. Or else give it to me so i can reach lvl3

[ActionDan]

good. good.

[ActionDan]

He was either 3rd party or town. And to be honest, I think he was town. I may be biased because once upon a time the scum team in a game I played in had an ability to make someone look like they had flipped non-town. They used it on me and killed me. It was devastating.

I want one of Monkeyman or Varsoon to die. Preferably MonkeyMan

VOTE: MonkeyMan

[ActionDan]

I sorta kinda would like a tally of people that selected feats at lvl 1. Sometime today anyway

[ActionDan]

There is little reason to believe third party over second scum and even less to believe the winged beast town.

It's 19 players. 3/3 split is too large and a 2/2 split too small. 4 scum / 1 third is a possibility. (I actually thought it was 17 at first, but 19 means a third party becomes more likely)

[ActionDan]

Dear sir,

Please reconsider, I do think they both are town.

Might I interest you in d3x, perhaps?

I could compromise on ZZZX / Jaqen, and to a lesser extent Ank. I think D3x is just not as scummy as the other 5 names. He's not a town read per say, but I have the slightest of leans that way.

[ActionDan]

The thing that bothers me about monkey man is the continued harping on there being no case. It's really easy to not see the case on your partner, pretend it doesn't exist when what we do have is pointed out, and discredit it by saying it's something that it's not.

This does not fit into any of the ways he's been scumhunting or suspecting people. For instance day one, he pulled up a list of peopl who playe Ina. Recent game and demonstrated that scum lurked more than town.

Therefore that lynch should have been right up his ally. Three slots who did or barely did nothing. And abr who did lurk and went v/la, not whole site, but for this game. I mean look at his v/la, he went it for this game, which means he wasn't limited access, just for this game.

So mm wants to go after lurkers, except that one which he wanted to leave alone and is still discrediting as "being lucky" and now he's going after Dan for being an opportunistic lurker. Like am I insane or does this thought process make no sense at all?

bingo

[ActionDan]

My wincon makes it sounds like the unholy pack are the only scum faction.

That's an excellent point! And the exact wording indeed means that we don't care about other factions anyway

[ActionDan]

Win Condition, thus stated, leaves it open for another party at play besides the UHP. Not guaranteed, of course, but leaves it open.

Which is not a worry at all

[ActionDan]

Vote: Monkeyman

I'm you have seen the light.

[ActionDan]

If Dragons was indeed the scumkill, I would hazard a guess that somewhere in {d3x, Nero, ActionDan} is scum.

I wouldn't.

MM, why you choose to make Flum a double voter, and not say, Dragons?

[ActionDan]

I doubt they are neighbors.

I doubt they are neighbors.

Based on what, exactly?

One of my powers.

Acceptable crumb. I asked because the first person you mentioned (before ever giving a reads list) that you thought was town was dragons.

However I don't mind.

I don't think your power is particularly favored to be given to town than scum . It seems to be a one-shot that was used Day 1, when a double voter's power is less pronounced.

[ActionDan]

you're batting .333 there

[ActionDan]

I was prodded so i am posting

[ActionDan]

Monkeyman has claimed giving flum the double vote already Matt.

Which makes 577 strange.

[ActionDan]

if people want to cede a hammer and want it to go towards a useful purpose, I'll take it.

[ActionDan]

Btw in case people ever need to choose feats, take weapon finesse as first choice. I regret not doing so myself.

[ActionDan]

If you shot gif with an arrow just claim it.

Pedit. That's the point

[ActionDan]

Good. I'm not lynching you because I don't believe gif was the scum kill. A shitty vig shot imo tho. I could have been the scum kill n1 or tammy did something maybe

[ActionDan]

I protected myself that night anyway Via lvl1 ability

[ActionDan]

Well
Ok then.

Side note: taking counterspell day 1 is scummy to me. But i guess narn tried to do it too.

[ActionDan]

There is the other potential feat of quick draw or w/e. If you are claiming to have protected tammy.

[ActionDan]

@ActionDan:
Any update or results from your class that will help win the game?

I'm not level 3 yet

[ActionDan]

@Mod: On the event of a self-hammer, does anybody get exp for the lynch?

Just asking in case it's random

[ActionDan]

T-mod has confirmed to me that the notifications for reaching a pre-determined point will be sent to ALL players. Since that hasn't happened yet, Jaqen slipped.

it's important whether this means a particular notification will be sent to all players at the same time or that all players will eventually receive the same notification at some point

[ActionDan]

A man would be being a commuter, also nonconsecutively

So my lvl 1 ability is a consecutive X-shot (2 or more) commuter... which is how I "protected" myself N1

[ActionDan]

At level 3, I get one shot of consecutive ascetic powers.

I'm pretty sure I'm intended to use my level 2 on a player, get the hammer, then level 3 to protect myself if it goes tits-up or if scum gets scared and tries to kill me for choosing correctly.

makes no sense.

read "ascetic" again.

[ActionDan]

Well that's cool.

[ActionDan]

was he hammered yet?

[ActionDan]

Maybe tomorrow ill hit lvl 3. Maybe.

I don't have any good ideas for the (probable) last scum. Monkeyman and jaqen are now both likely town. Everyone else on my scum list is dead.

[ActionDan]

Wait actually zzzx is left. Moneys on him

[ActionDan]

Mabes but i townread that slot. Not as much as others tho

[ActionDan]

^

[ActionDan]

So I'll be using my lvl 3 ability and activating my BP and there's nothing anyone can do to stop me. Gg.

NATURE WILL RISE AGAINST YOU

[ActionDan]

I used my power on Action Dan night 1, and he will basically never die now. I hope your skill is as good as you say.

Oh it is. And thanks

[ActionDan]

For those of you who hammered previously, did you level up at the beginning of the night?

I believe so, yes

[ActionDan]

I'm not advocating for a lynch right now, I just think he's played a very detached game since D1 and looking back at his D1 play it actually wasnt that crazily town. He started the wagon on BBmolla/ABR, but just with a single contentless vote and then no follow-up throughout the entire wagon progression

So I don't see him as obvtown in any sense.

I will take the credit for casing varsoon thanks and continuing to scumread him d2.

[ActionDan]

By the way, I learned the other night that the Ranger is definitely town. So the Ranger may want to claim.

They should btw. Whoever this is

Pedit: wat

[ActionDan]

Oh gotcha

[ActionDan]

The only two people I'd lynch are Zzzx or jaqen, the latter because despite the dual wagons everyone besides him leveled up today.

[ActionDan]

Unless town killed Serra,

something something andrius

[ActionDan]

Oh. Well then

[ActionDan]

Flum is obviously and totally town

[ActionDan]

but also

vote:ZZZX

VOTE: Zzzx

Pedit: It wasn't conclusive anyway as people mentioned.

[ActionDan]

My guess is it's one way. Also i commuted n1 so unless your action superceeds that...

[ActionDan]

vote:Flum

Since he has a blood bond with AD and everyone thinks AD is scum lets just lynch here today.

Tbh people who think im scum are kinda retarded. to put it nicely.

but in any case id rather use my lvl 3 ability and lynch scum guaranteed the next day

[ActionDan]

A miller who shoots until he pays for life? A man thinks not.

I have one kill.
I wanted to keep it vague to be more INTIMIDATING to the scum so instead of dealing with 1shot Vig Andy they wonder if they have to deal with MULTISHOT Vig Andy.

pedit: If you want to play the 'oh lynch guaranteed scum tomorrow' game you're going to have to explain more than that.

Unvote

Not the time for teehee games.

It is the equivalent to a cop shot that hits scum in utility

[ActionDan]

It is the equivalent to a cop shot that hits scum in utility

If you're BP I don't get why you aren't just explaining this more fully since you've already revealed this much detail?

Also, I dont get as town why you ever even brought this ability up,

so many times over the past several days leading up to this moment

. How do you know scum doesnt have a roleblocker and will not be using it on your tonight? I feel like as town you wouldn't have executed this in this way. I feel like this is more easily explained as you trying to get town cred

I wanted the hammer d1 and certain feats allowed to dodge shit death/rbs. In the meantime I could commute.

execution is my prerogative. I'm not in indulging you on that. As far as town cred goes I had plenty d1.

[ActionDan]

This is another reason the ranger should just claim now

[ActionDan]

It doesn't make sense to me that you touted / advertised your level three ability so much considering that there is a serious threat of scum roleblocking it. I don't think you would have done that as town.

The die was cast d1. When i said it was game winning.

Get. Over. It.

Pedit: why are you guys claiming one at a time. That may allow scum to poe it at the end in some cases. Just let ranger claim

[ActionDan]

No harm no foul.

[ActionDan]

I'm sorry but a Cop (or any investigative role really) who can self-bulletproof does simply NOT work.

Ill take "what are feats" for 200 Alex

[ActionDan]

Action Dan is far from being someone I trust 100% I assumed you actually had a reason for town reading him that was solid or else you wouldn't have claimed mason. I didn't realize you'd do such an objectively bad play like that.

You actually got me to chuckle out loud with your last part of that post. That is just gold. Thanks for giving me a laugh.
(Please be sure to re-read that later on.)

Wait. Is a man reading this correct? This one is using something on N1 to link his fait to one he isn't necessarily town reading. That blood tie makes it so that this one (supposedly town) would die if that one (which the supposed town is unsure of to be town) if that one dies. Yet, if this one dies, that one remains unharmed? And is a man also correct in reading this one is blaming his actions on

Nero's

bad play. If so, a man is finally understanding the scum thoughts of others for this one a man skimmed on his breaks last night. A man would be grateful if someone could provide correction where a man may have erred in his reading or confirmation if a man reads true as he'll have about 15 minutes to read when he wakes to go back to work.

He did this night one or w/e when not only was i like obvious town but had also claimed a super powerful role.

It makes perfect sense

[ActionDan]

point of order:

Are you suggesting that I can't pick have a feat with being a 1 shot cop?
Or
Are you suggesting that my lvl 1 ability can't be a commuter with my lvl 3 ability being a 1 shot cop?

[ActionDan]

I think the game will conclude tomorrow in any case.

But I didn't like your predessor at all and your posting since has never goven me any town vibes.

That said alternative lynches are still possible. Not too many of them though. For me that'd be jaqen due to his early level up. Maybe vezok. That's about it

[ActionDan]

so if fulminator dies, so does action dan?

No. Other way around wrt getting lynched. If shot, I am protected and he dies (I think).

[ActionDan]

Dan is correctish. Since I get this nagging feeling that none of my posts are being read, I'll try one more time and be as clear as possible.
Level 1: I pick a player to form a blood bond with. If they ever die, I die. (Entirely negative utility at this point. I banked on Dan being protected until my level up though.)
Level 2: I take over Dan's spot. All actions towards him goes to me. (I asked the mod and even things like weapon finesse would go to me.) He can't even be role-blocked.
Level 3: I can change my blood blond and who I swap with every night.

If you haven't really read anything I posted yet today, the only other thing I care about is you read 3752 and tell me what you think.

Just once again, I commuted N1, so tbh I'm not actually sure we

are

bonded

[ActionDan]

The level 2 ability is nice btw.

[ActionDan]

Almost anyone besides ActionDan. Someone who is pro-town.

There really is something wrong with you.

[ActionDan]

That doesn't mean he's lying that he tried.

[ActionDan]

Ad, did you get a pm that said you were bonded?

No

[ActionDan]

That doesn't mean he's lying that he tried.

This.

Flum did you get a pm that said you were bonded?

Ad, did you get a pm that said you were bonded?

No, but Night 1 I have to be bonded with someone. There is no chance I'm not bonded with Action Dan.

Which means if you didn't select anyone, the Mod would randomize it?

[ActionDan]

(Entirely negative utility at this point. I banked on Dan being protected until my level up though.)

@Nero

[ActionDan]

The role pm says it's compulsive whatever that means.

You should ask the Mod if it's beyond the scope of night actions interfering with it

[ActionDan]

Well that was fast. He confirmed I was successful in bonding with Dan.
He said he couldn't answer whether something could have potentially stopped me from forming a bond.

Excellent.
Excellent.
Now there is literally nothing that can stop me using my ability, not even spell penetration.

Unless Flum and/or me are lynched, please don't. Think of the children

[ActionDan]

d3x/varsoon ... and seemed to just sideline those

Really? I gave my commentary on d3x. It was simple: Shitposting wrt Titus ---> posted better neutral lean.

As for Varsoon, don't place the laurel on your head just because you helped lynch him d4. I laid major groundwork D1 pushing him that entire day. The only reason I wasn't on him that day was because Jaqen (who I think still could easily be scum) was the other choice, and it was a tough one

[ActionDan]

the mod didn't inform Flum when he was bonded.

This I believe 100% would happen not based on the fact that I wasn't told, but that this Mod is a cagey SOB.

[ActionDan]

Throw anything feat received by Here-there-be-dragons

[ActionDan]

I haven't forgotten.
You, me, and AD should all have different targets/target blocs.

Don't worry about me, it's automatic

[ActionDan]

We should plan so I don't kill the person you're going to investigate. For example.

I know. What I'm saying is you can do no harm. I don't actually target anyone when I use it

[ActionDan]

He claimed his inventions D3ish

[ActionDan]

sometimes. You just know

[ActionDan]

ActionDan reads scummy to me. I've already went through my reasoning in recent posts.

I suppose you probably didn't read anything sub 70.

[ActionDan]

Why did you just play along with the mason claim Action Dan?

He was a town read, Idgaf, and I could commute

[ActionDan]

Tbh the only thing I care about is myself getting the role off. Neutering Flum would make it possible for scum carrying spell penetration to bypass Matt's ascetic.

Like I prefer Flum making himself my total and complete bodyguard for all negative actions, including possible other strongman possbilities.

The other thing I'd care about is what would happen if scum (in this case, Jaqen) used counterspell, but I don't think there's anything to be done about that.

[ActionDan]

Its so apparent that the last scum(s) is in ZZZX/AD/Vezok but maybe Im wrong

Jaqen?

Like Leveling up before the rest of everybody was and still is a thing I find suspicious regardless of scum interactions

[ActionDan]

Anyone actually want this hammer?

[ActionDan]

because I'd rather ZZZX/Jaqen not get it.

Not that scum isn't level 3 already anyway

[ActionDan]

Is there any particular reason I shouldn't just hammer away?

[ActionDan]

sure but who wants/needs it atm?

[ActionDan]

oh ok.

I'll wait then

[ActionDan]

I got lost in reddit

[ActionDan]

There's no reason not for matt to use his Ascetic on me (If I'm correct that it makes me ascetic). If it gets redirected to Flum, more power to him imo.

[ActionDan]

Town
Narninian
Flum
Andrius
Ankamius

Pretty Town
Displaced
Nero


Null-Town
Monkeyman

More likely Scum
Jaqen
ZZZX


Assuming Vezok isn't trolling, this is where I am at right.

Mine.

Ftr it was displaced that made Matt's slot town to me.. him not so much, but displaced was quite town

[ActionDan]

Sorry if it weighs you down

[ActionDan]

Claim:
Role: Bard
Night Actions:
Level 1/Day 1: give Double Voter to Fluminator

Level 2/Night

4

: Neighborize Andrius and Nero Cain.

A man is

finally

catching up on a day's reading, and wtf?!? A man is receiving the level up PM as well, which didn't happen until dawn. This one is having level two just as a man but obfuscates such leaving a man to think he may be the only one to get an early level and even uses a man's level as a reason for suspicion while his one was at the same level all along though he too has never had a hammer! A man is clean with his actions and abilities. Why must needs this one lie behind his? A man is calling bullshit!

So he's scum for the same reason you are scum?
Levelling up outside of the D5 rush?
Nope.

Actually he has a point. Monkey claimed to level up beginning of day 5 and said "I will be using my neighborize on nero cain and andrius".

And you seem to be in a neighborhood, which I'm not sure when that happened but i take it sometime d5. Its possible monkey misspoke.

[ActionDan]

Yes, and it will 99% solve the game. Also Mm please unvote for the time being.
But
Could everyone indulge me by massclaiming roles and actions.

[ActionDan]

ill spill right after, promise.

I just want to be sure nothing could possibly fuck this up.

[ActionDan]

Except you narn. Ill claim before you claim your target

[ActionDan]

I don't really care who goes first, but all feat usage and actions should be claimed.

Also i totally lied about being BP. the feat I got was power attack.

[ActionDan]

And yes I've been trying. I eventually stopped, though.

?

You mean that you've kept targetting people with your ability since night 1 but have not yet once ever been successful getting a result? Or have I got this wrong

[ActionDan]

And also your action is both a follow and a reporter combined? (in more accessible terms you check somebody and you get a positive result if they either visit someone or else someone visits them?). Also who have your targets been since day 1?

[ActionDan]

I thought the plan was to make me ascetic, and not vanillize andrius of all people

[ActionDan]

And I know for a fact that noone rb'd me last night (not that anyone would be intelligent to considering both my actions resolve prior to rb, but I listed my feat preference in the EXACT order as listed in the OP so the two BPs are clearly taken)

I listed the feats as listed because I didnt see a particular use for any other than, of course, the BPs

Also, if you didnt take a BP then two people did and I thought noone else has claimed BP feat choice yet.

A man jail kept this one last night and has claimed all his other actions.

aka you jailkept Mattp I guess

[ActionDan]

no he's lying.

Let's just continue for the time being

[ActionDan]

Only one left is flum before I claim I believe

[ActionDan]

I haven't tried since.

was that a conscious decision or apathy related?

[ActionDan]

I'm going to sleep.

[ActionDan]

Anyway.

I wasn't a cop. Teehee.

I was...

....

An Omnitracker!

I got back these results:

Jaqen ----> Andrius
Matt ----> Andrius
Flum ----> Actiondan
Andrius -----> Zzzx
Narn -----> Jaqen

[ActionDan]

These are the only actions taken last night, unless scum used dodge to remain unseen to me. In any case there is nothing in the world that could possibly explain jaqen not being scum here.

[ActionDan]

anyone want a hammer?

[ActionDan]

Ank you really should use your strong af level 1 ability tonight

[ActionDan]

When's it resolve? If it resolves during the combat phase I can see it

[ActionDan]

No you just throw it on someone and see if they move. I'm going to commute flum should stay put matt really has nothing to do, i don't think narn or nero have either. I dunno what neros lvl 3 is though

[ActionDan]

And monkey probs doesn't either

[ActionDan]

K here you go

VOTE: Jaqen

[ActionDan]

Seriously AD? Why do you want me to stay on you? Your got your role in.
If Jaqen isn't scum, I am almost positive it's between Nero, AD, or MM.

yeah switch to narn

[ActionDan]

in fairness, my vote wasn't to force a quickhammer.
we should have talked about the discrepency of my action more....
but tommorow we get to lynch actiondan!

you realize he just claimed scum

[ActionDan]

I mean if Jaqen is town and now claimed to lie about targetting Mattp then that cost us the game. And I wash my hands of it.

[ActionDan]

but if he flips scum, who cares. If he flips town then we know AD is scum so win-win.

How does that work Nero?

[ActionDan]

If Jaqen does flip town, then yeah it's MattP being the only other one that targetted Andy

[ActionDan]

the problem is.....Andy was going to use an action last night so I'm kinda like "I see the scum motivation in trying to block/kill Andy" but lets say that you tried to keep him and Nar targeted you and thus your keep didn't work...then Matt P is scum so meh.

This would make sense, possibly depending on resolve times.

But goddamn if he's town why'd he have to lie about it.

[ActionDan]

It's possible Matt ascetic'd Andrius and then killed him. I dunno.

I don't really know why Matt would ever vanillze Andrius as he claimed.

[ActionDan]

? I knew he targetted you. I just figured I'd claim first since he was conf. town and that would at the least give me credibility that I used an omnitrack. Clearly I saw you go to Andrius even though you lied about that at first.

[ActionDan]

ScumActionDan could have easily figured out who I targeted when I said to move on after their was an inconsistency with your claim.

You didn't say that before I claimed

[ActionDan]

It is also strange that I showed up as targetting You last night when I did it yesterday.
There might be a meta reason for this (the mod originally said I hadn't leveled up to 3 yet when I tried to use it)

I asked you to ask the mod when it resolved. If it resolved during the combat phase I'd see it.

I still saw Jaqen target Andrius which I would have no reasonable clue that could have happened

[ActionDan]

that was a pretty brutal troll

[ActionDan]

says the crazy vi that misread Vezok so horribly and has hypocritical logic to "suspect" me.

that was a pretty brutal troll

A man is just playing his part

So, if I had claimed JK on Andy would it have gone down differently? I really was a jailkeeper btw.

It would have been between you and matt for me. But it'd probably fall on you because scum would need a strong man

[ActionDan]

But then he abandoned me. T_T.

[ActionDan]

Btw, what would have happened had I ised powerattack. Would I have seen nothing?

[ActionDan]

Jesus

[ActionDan]

Ah ok. Not as bad as I thought.