Inorganic Chemistry [GAME OVER, SCUM WIN]


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Post Post #684 (isolation #0) » Mon Jun 01, 2015 1:53 pm

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Why'd you get rid of your avatar Jaqen?
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Post Post #915 (isolation #1) » Fri Jun 05, 2015 5:28 am

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Sorry. Been a week without much internet access, and I'll be having less for the weekend still.
I re-read hiplop's iso and he seems opportunistic. I like him more for scum than Sonic right now.

-flum
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Post Post #2270 (isolation #2) » Sat Jun 27, 2015 7:32 am

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In post 2244, Aristophanes wrote:90 pages to read?
Awesome.

I'll get to this for sure tomorrowish and probably just read from the start of D2.
Anything integral I should know from the first bit?

From Day 1?

Kari - Didn't do anything day 1 other than announce a few V/LA

vezokpiraka - Near global town read I think? Wanted/wants hiplop lynched and that Sonic is town

Aristophanes - Mac didn't really do anything other than scum it up in the first few posts. It's your replacement though so.

Sonic Boom - Tried to get hiplop lynched. A bunch of people think they're scum including my other head. I'm on the fence and see both point of views.

ZZZX - See Vezok

Wickedestjr - From day 1 I don't really remember much. He was on Bins. He's been doing more today so that's nice. I should check him out because he was a null for me.

Lying Cat - Lots of people are scum reading them, myself included. Pushed for Bins day 1 and think Sonic is scum.

mastin2 - I won't go too in depth to keep it nice and just say she pushed Bins day 1. She also thinks that Sonic was scum and yesterday said Hiplop was scummy but not scum.

hiplop - Was at L-1 yesterday and would have been lynched if I had remembered to check in a bit sooner. (Or if one of the others off the wagon did it too)

Shakira Confirmed - I'm confirmed town if Sonic Boom is town.

Nachomamma8 - Tere wanted either Bins, Sonic, or Hiplop lynched. Compromised on Hiplop.

ika - Didn't do anything yesterday. (Actually)

Jaqen Hghar - Pushed for Bins thinking that when she claimed she had a day power, that she meant she had a vote.

Flubbernugget - He went on the hiplop wagon pretty early yesterday too.

Cerberus v666 - Wanted Hiplop lynched yesterday.

T S O - Ank wanted Sonic lynched, but compromoised on Hiplop.

Bins - R.I.P.

If I'm wrong on any of these correct me.
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Post Post #2674 (isolation #3) » Mon Jul 06, 2015 10:02 am

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No I don't. Don't worry about that part.
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Post Post #2675 (isolation #4) » Mon Jul 06, 2015 10:03 am

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Oops. Effing mobile. No time to change.
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Post Post #3050 (isolation #5) » Mon Jul 13, 2015 6:39 pm

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Marq is leaving the site so I guess I'll replace the hydra.
:cry:
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Post Post #3059 (isolation #6) » Mon Jul 13, 2015 7:43 pm

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Cool story. I know Brian Skies.
I'm going to be a little demotivated for awhile, so I'll just be hanging.
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Post Post #3060 (isolation #7) » Mon Jul 13, 2015 7:45 pm

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Kari might be scum with you instead of Ari. Decisions. Decisions.
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Post Post #3061 (isolation #8) » Mon Jul 13, 2015 7:52 pm

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In post 3052, Aristophanes wrote:Town conf-ish: SB & SC

Town lean: Nacho, Mastin, Jaquen, Wicked, Cerb

Null: Ika, Vezok, TSO

Scum lean: Kari, Flubber

You forgot about Cat.
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Post Post #3062 (isolation #9) » Mon Jul 13, 2015 7:58 pm

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Inb4 the commute inventor doesn't even exist. That would be pretty funny.
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Post Post #3064 (isolation #10) » Mon Jul 13, 2015 8:19 pm

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In post 2936, Lying Cat wrote:
3. Mastin is town for a different reason than I am. Though we
are
uninformed masons. I uninformed mazonized nacho's slot last night too, I'll choose TSO tonight.

UNVOTE:
Nacho, please tell me if this is true. You haven't commented on it.
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Post Post #3065 (isolation #11) » Mon Jul 13, 2015 8:34 pm

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It's probably time to say this.
Yo inventor who invented me yesterday. I visited Cat last night.
(I also visited Jaqen the first night but the result was less interesting.)

I'd really like Nacho and Cat to go into more detail on this right now because something is definitely fishy.
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Post Post #3095 (isolation #12) » Tue Jul 14, 2015 7:10 am

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We'll save Mastin for another day. She might be best to be cop checked tonight. Cerb is probably town anyway.
I can also guarantee 100% that Lying Cat is Lying (heh) about what he did last night. Doesn't mean he's scum because he could be confident and dumb enough to lie as town. But keep that in mind if I'm not around tomorrow.
VOTE: Aristophanes
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Post Post #3100 (isolation #13) » Tue Jul 14, 2015 7:20 am

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In post 2936, Lying Cat wrote:
3. Mastin is town for a different reason than I am. Though we
are
uninformed masons. I uninformed mazonized nacho's slot last night too, I'll choose TSO tonight.

Because when he first said this, it was too late at night and I was too tired to realize the ramifications of it until I re-read it.

Lying Cat, did the mod not inform you your action failed if nacho commuted?
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Post Post #3103 (isolation #14) » Tue Jul 14, 2015 7:24 am

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Believe me Wicked. I get where you're coming from 100%. She treated me and Marq similar day 1. (And Sonic Boom for the first 2 days.)
She's not a good lynch for today though on the off chance she is just this delusional about her skill though.
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Post Post #3105 (isolation #15) » Tue Jul 14, 2015 7:29 am

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At first I thought there was a chance Cat was trying to draw the night-kill on behalf of someone, but that doesn't seem to be the case.
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Post Post #3108 (isolation #16) » Tue Jul 14, 2015 7:33 am

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In post 3107, Wickedestjr wrote:
Fluminator wrote:Believe me Wicked. I get where you're coming from 100%. She treated me and Marq similar day 1. (And Sonic Boom for the first 2 days.)
She's not a good lynch for today though on the off chance she is just this delusional about her skill though.

If nobody wants to join me on this, I'll switch back to Kari. But I see no reason why this makes her a better lynch tomorrow as opposed to today... There's a good chance Kari's scum, but it still feels like a shot in the dark to some extent because of her limited posting (and I still don't see why Aristo has votes).

I'm frustrated that Cerb and T S O are trying to paint this as similar to her town meta.

There is one reason. And it frustrates me greatly that it exists.
Also, why not Aristophanes instead?
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Post Post #3114 (isolation #17) » Tue Jul 14, 2015 8:10 am

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Re-read Mac's iso and he did less than I originally thought. The first chunk is nothing but defending from his sarcastic "You caught me" joke.
He also throws suspicion on me and Sonic Boom.
He always seems to be careful about it though. Like
In post 562, Mac wrote:tere

do you see what I think I see in these latest metal sonic posts?


He later in the day finally starts playing a little at and on.
Cerb is town for being agreeable.
Cat is town for yelling at Ika to not quickhammer.
Scum readish on Jaqen for declaring Gorkington's replace out was scum. (This is actually a pretty good reason on Mac's part)
Stronger scum read on Sonic for pushing a ZZZX lynch.
Town reads ZZZX from the Sonic push.
Scum reads Flubber.
Calls Hiplop's vote on Sonic horrible and votes Hiplop.
Eventually agrees with Jaqen that his reasons for Bins being scum have sound reasoning.
Votes my slot for voting Hiplop saying it's opportunistic.
Calls Tere's response to Hiplop awful and indicative of her scum game.
Maybe changes his mind on Bins near the end and asks everyone to give her space.
Continued Flubber scum read.
Says Mastin is prob town but he's wary of her.
Keeps vote parked on me all the way until deadline.

Then he loses interest and replaces out next day.
What does it mean?
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Post Post #3120 (isolation #18) » Tue Jul 14, 2015 8:33 am

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I predicted that response. XD
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Post Post #3122 (isolation #19) » Tue Jul 14, 2015 8:39 am

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What is it with Sonic Boom still being scum read.
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Post Post #3123 (isolation #20) » Tue Jul 14, 2015 8:39 am

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The only way Sonic is scum is if he's scum with Cerberus.
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Post Post #3130 (isolation #21) » Tue Jul 14, 2015 8:51 am

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Oh. are redirectors even a thing here? I've never seen one.

Do you have any completed town games yet Jaqen?
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Post Post #3133 (isolation #22) » Tue Jul 14, 2015 8:56 am

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In post 3129, Jaqen Hghar wrote:Actually, with my iPad i don't get pedits

Also. Lol.
Apple.
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Post Post #3142 (isolation #23) » Tue Jul 14, 2015 9:28 am

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In post 3135, Jaqen Hghar wrote:
In post 3130, Fluminator wrote:Oh. are redirectors even a thing here? I've never seen one.


If a Redirector is a thing, and
if
SB is scum, tinfoil says Flum is that Redirector (Bus Driver) as it is imperative to insulate that role with protection for that scum strategy to work. Though a man is recently taking flum from his list of suspicion (from the LC last night thing), that theory isn't completely forgotten. Bus Driver stil makes the most sense to balance Weak.

That would actually be pretty neat. If you're town, then I'm flattered you're considering it.
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Post Post #3144 (isolation #24) » Tue Jul 14, 2015 9:48 am

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Maybe, maybe.
Has Mastin been right all along?
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Post Post #3151 (isolation #25) » Tue Jul 14, 2015 10:30 am

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Hmmmm. Give me a bit.
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Post Post #3152 (isolation #26) » Tue Jul 14, 2015 10:39 am

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You know what. We should resolve this tomorrow.
Let's lynch a lurker.
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Post Post #3156 (isolation #27) » Tue Jul 14, 2015 11:14 am

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Both. Between the two of us we both individually scum read both players in that slot.
But I wouldn't be opposed to a Kari lynch because I'm pretty sure Kari being town would basically clear Vezok for reasons somewhere in the hydra's iso.
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Post Post #3158 (isolation #28) » Tue Jul 14, 2015 11:25 am

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Maybe the inventor who usually invents us, should invent Cat tonight. What he does with it may be revealing.
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Post Post #3159 (isolation #29) » Tue Jul 14, 2015 11:28 am

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Why do I keep saying us. :cry:
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Post Post #3168 (isolation #30) » Tue Jul 14, 2015 3:29 pm

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In post 3165, Sonic Boom wrote:
In post 3158, Fluminator wrote:Maybe the inventor who usually invents us, should invent Cat tonight. What he does with it may be revealing.


Really, yes why do you keep saying "us"? You're not an "us".

:cry: not anymore
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Post Post #3176 (isolation #31) » Tue Jul 14, 2015 4:43 pm

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Replace me out Anti. You are a really good mod (probably the best I've seen), but a couple posters have been sapping the fun out of this for the entire game and now that Marq's out I just have no motivation. I tried to force myself to have some out of respect for you, but it didn't work.

Hope to see some of you in other games. :]
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Post Post #3179 (isolation #32) » Tue Jul 14, 2015 5:02 pm

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No you aren't cerb. Your playstyle is truly a breath of fresh air.
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Post Post #3184 (isolation #33) » Tue Jul 14, 2015 5:56 pm

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In post 3181, ika wrote:
In post 3179, Fluminator wrote:No you aren't cerb. Your playstyle is truly a breath of fresh air.


was it me? if so im sorry i enjoy playing with you man

No, it's not you. I enjoy playing with you too.
I don't want to make this all dramatic or mysterious. If anyone is wondering if it's them, it's not.

Another part is summer classes are starting and I wasn't expecting to be doing this game solo at this point. But now I feel like shit right now because Kari is actually replacing out for a real reason. :/
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Post Post #4551 (isolation #34) » Sat Sep 12, 2015 3:33 pm

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Anti messaged saying the game was done, and I checked fully expecting a scum win.
Lol that poisoner role.
Sorry about replacing out again. It was primarily reasons outside the game that caused it and I have no hard feelings to anyone.
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Post Post #4553 (isolation #35) » Sat Sep 12, 2015 3:51 pm

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In post 4544, Antihero wrote:
Night 3

St Constantine the Hermit commutes
T S O investigates Wickedestjr (
Town
)
Sonic Boom roleblocks mastin2
ika kills Flubbernugget

Reading this, I greatly regret replacing out.
Me and Marquis were originally planning on using the roleblock on Ika this night after town reading him, hoping to catch the scum off guard.
Oh well.

Lying Cat's actions make sense now. You're a pretty genius player Cat.
Mastin, I finally understand why you have a great reputation. Very well played.
GG to Vezok especially, you had me fooled.
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Post Post #4606 (isolation #36) » Sun Sep 13, 2015 5:39 am

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Next person to call me Flubber gets slapped.

I find it amusing how so many people post game and in the dead thread are claiming they knew Mastin was scum. If that were true, you guys would have FREAKING LYNCHED HER. Lol
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Post Post #4610 (isolation #37) » Sun Sep 13, 2015 5:46 am

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I stopped following the game after Mastin got away from the Aris scum flip, so I guess I don't know the entire context. You seemed to play a really good game TSO and you tried until the end.
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Post Post #4621 (isolation #38) » Sun Sep 13, 2015 6:28 am

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In post 4619, Titus wrote:
In post 4606, Fluminator wrote:Next person to call me Flubber gets slapped.

I find it amusing how so many people post game and in the dead thread are claiming they knew Mastin was scum. If that were true, you guys would have FREAKING LYNCHED HER. Lol


You do realize I said it from D1 and no one listened. Mastina would have been a lynch relatively soon after the other two I lynched back to back due to my force of will. :igmeou:

Yeah. Sorry. I shouldn't have said that. Especially when I don't have the full context. Mastin did good eliminating the people who suspected her.
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Post Post #4632 (isolation #39) » Sun Sep 13, 2015 8:22 am

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I probably would have read the scum thread too.
Too bad :(
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Post Post #4662 (isolation #40) » Sun Sep 13, 2015 10:35 am

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I'm curious. Since the scum thread isn't being released for some reason, why did you choose which people you did for doing the kill? I'm mostly interested in why Ika did the kill night 3.
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Post Post #4670 (isolation #41) » Sun Sep 13, 2015 10:50 am

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mastin2 wrote:
In post 34, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:I could see Jaqen as scum. I don't agree with his reads at all and it's reminiscent of mastin's ego/bravado/arrogance as scum - "SHEEP ME AND YOU WILL SEE." Then 2 days later half the town is dead.
And then, lategame, I proceeded to do exactly that!
>SHEEP ME, NACHO IS SCUM.
>SHEEP ME, JAQEN IS SCUM.
>SHEEP ME, PERE IS SCUM.

WHOOPSIES!
lol
Your push on Flubber tho.
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Post Post #4689 (isolation #42) » Sun Sep 13, 2015 12:07 pm

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In post 4683, mastin2 wrote: (I practically taunted Flum at points, basically going, "Well of COURSE I'm scum, doesn't mean you're going to be able to do anything about it!")

;)
I evidently need to work on convincing people to lynch my scum reads.
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Post Post #4703 (isolation #43) » Sun Sep 13, 2015 4:39 pm

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Started reading and couldn't handle the arrogance. Lol
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Post Post #4704 (isolation #44) » Sun Sep 13, 2015 4:47 pm

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It is a little demeaning to claim me and Titus were absolutely no threat to you. We got Aris lynched against your's and Cat's will.
I think if Titus was around the night after, she could have gotten you out. The main reason you were so hard to lynch was because Cat was so stubborn in defending you, but he was your only town ally at that point. (Maybe Tso at that point.)
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Post Post #4705 (isolation #45) » Sun Sep 13, 2015 5:05 pm

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Spoiler:
Mastin wrote:Btw, this is to the Shakira post.

I basically have no fear of them.

In fact, I'd welcome them investigating me.
Why?

Because them investigating me is just about the STUPIDEST thing they could do.
-It would get rid of someone who we needed to nightkill anyway.
-It would silence their voice and by proxy increase my own.
-It gives us a free Cerb mislynch because we have the "follow the chain" strategy.
"But Mastin! We said we'd target you! Surely they'd lynch you before Cerb!"
And that assumption, m'friends, are why you would be stupid to actually target me.

Because no, they wouldn't. They'd go after Cerb, because your posting about targeting me looks to be out of frustration towards me, a one-off thought, not something you'd actually do. (This is quite intentional manipulation on my part. I originally intended for this on Sonic, but it works just as well when applied to you.) Cerb looks naturally scummy to people anyway, and the chain-plan is what everyone is assuming we're doing, so if you break the chain plan, then your fault for assuming the town would be smart enough to figure out that you did; bluntly, no they wouldn't--maybe one or two would, but the town as a whole wouldn't.

"...Shit. You're right. But surely after that, you'd get lynched, so it might still be worth it!"

You would think so, but not necessarily. It depends on the key players (particularly, LC and Nacho) and how they read me. If they value play over role, then no, they won't lynch me. I will live because they'll be convinced that with my play being as it is, and my role as it is, that I could only be town, with your death caused by some other factor: hipgunning a random player, budriver, etc. Admittedly, I can't guarantee this'll happen. It's possible it won't. It's possible they turn against me, and if they do, then I die.

But only IF they do. So that plan of yours of targeting me?

I say go ahead! Has my blessing! :D

...Or I would, if I had any pro-town reason for wanting you to have the invention and investigating me. Sadly, the pro-town view is for me to say that because you're already in the chain as conftown, you should NOT be the target for the invention, because it's a redundant waste. Alas.

Uhhh. There wasn't a chance in hell I was getting the cop invention. I actually did just say that out of frustration. I wasn't actually wanting to scan you.

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