Trouble in The Cougar's Den (Game over!)

[Vedith]

Evening all,

So... let me catch up.

[Vedith]

Vote: Nobody Special

For asking rhetorical questions.

Did you happen to prefer Ika's 18 to Nobody Special's 28?

[Vedith]

Also, I just caught a way to tell if I'm scum or town from that last post compared to how I word stuff when I'm scum. I'll have to fix that in my scum games. Be a dear and remind me?

Self meta at page 2... I hope that you don't try to use this at a later time in the game.

[Vedith]

Hey ceph. DO you think we have a neutral in the game?

This is an odd thing to ask so early. What's your thoughts on it?
Do you think that a scum team can process the possibility of neutral by the amount on their team or by their roles?

[Vedith]

At least i got a town read on you now

Oooo, this is exciting, elaborate?
Because of 84?
If so, that's more of a personal preference rather than an align tell for me.

[Vedith]

I know, im just goading you for entertainment value. i have one cus i think hes town i have no other reason other then what i feel

if you want logic you can ask me next lifetime

So purely on gut.
Noted.

[Vedith]

Why would YOU think Ika was soft claiming?

I'm not looking to answer RR. However, 32, 39, 50 and 75 pin point towards Ika soft claiming Survivor.

[Vedith]

I'm opposed to wasting lynches on third party slots that aren't trying to kill town.

Define trying to kill town... By actually killing with an ability, or voting against town/trying to confuse town?
I think that it's an important topic when raised of proven.

[Vedith]

Day 4 is normally when I give my big reads post and nail the scumteam.

So if you're town, scum can just kill you night 3 now?
Not a fan of this one.

[Vedith]

VOTE: Reasonably Rational

That is not a town post.

And why not? If scum day talk isn't known, then why would it be an associated reason on a vote?

[Vedith]

I'd probs vote them but IDK where the vote count is at right now

I can only guess that you mean how close to being lynched he is? Do you really believe at this stage he would be close to the lynch target?

[Vedith]

it took you thta long deph i knew that on first post

On that note, who else is town for you?

[Vedith]

Ika, you knew heartless was town from....quoting a song, I assume that is? I don't disagree, I think, but you knew from the first post?

Wait, you don't disagree with the quoting a song reason, or you don't disagree that he is town?
If for other reasons, talk to me about it - why?

[Vedith]

VOTE: MonkeyMan

Yup, not a fan.
I don't like the first post
I don't like the posting and ducking
I don't like the easy sheeping

[Vedith]

Wait, why is my vote on RR?

[Vedith]

@Vedith: Did you make your catch up posts as you read the thread for the first time, or did you read everything, go back, and then make your posts?

I responded as I read - Issue with phone playing.

Monkey can be lynched rr can also eat too

So shouldn't you be voting either of them then?

UNVOTE: RR
VOTE: MonkeyMan

This is where I actually voted.

[Vedith]

Yeah, so performer is scum too

This game feels extremely easy

Thank god we have you here then to make it so easy.

[Vedith]

Hey, I was being serious...

[Vedith]

can we jsut lynch a lurker and move on later i feel like active posters are town atm and everoyne lurking is bad or scum

Any in particular?
Can I interest you in MonkeyMan?

[Vedith]

You are town leaning Ika, but you think he comment was opportunistic and scummy behavior? o.0

[Vedith]

Are those questions to me?

[Vedith]

Ved's obvtown to me

...

...what?

-Ank

His read is spot on... Just as if he has inside knowledge, eh?

[Vedith]

Scum are here:

Reasonably Rational
Vedith
davesaz
Performer

So are you saying that this is the scum team?
Phew, game resolved!

[Vedith]

dave I explained in my catch up post.

Peregrine started the BPC wagon iirc which basically remedied my initial complaint so I am no longer scum reading him.

Testing the waters there?

[Vedith]

I strongly disagree.

[Vedith]

dave I explained in my catch up post.

Peregrine started the BPC wagon iirc which basically remedied my initial complaint so I am no longer scum reading him.

Testing the waters there?

459
For the record, this was for the post 459 - However, it seems that it changed the text...

Do you think spiffeh is town?

[Vedith]

That was my fault. Sorry guys...

[Vedith]

So Day 1 is still going?
Cool, I can read through everything and contribute.

Hey Vedith!!!!

About time you joined! =D
Hi FB! ^^

[Vedith]

I don't see that anything really significant has happened thus far. Can someone summarize for me if I missed something?

Oh, hey lurker scum!
Can I interest you in a self vote?

If not you, who do you think would be a good vote?

[Vedith]

With the exception of HP, that is actually a rather scummy wagon on Firebringer.

Are they all your scum reads (apart from HP), or do you mean that this wagon is scum driven?

[Vedith]

Damn it, I had a post but it didn't send...
Lets do it again, just without the quotes.

But yeah I can see what you are saying. However, PV looks good town for me...
Originally I thought that Performer could have just been trying to push another wagon to get off his (an obvious null tell)... However, there were more productive wagons going then.
The vote as well is questioning the wagon and voting him in the same post.
He also tries to push Ika as scummy and when no one takes the bait, he changes his tune... A bit like this;

Opportunist accusation to Ika
People disagree
Town lean but scummy townbloc tactic for Ika
Town lean Ika

That's really testing the waters, I mean, he even has his trunks and goggles on for that.

UNVOTE: Monkey
VOTE: Performer

[Vedith]

what would you do if it was someone else claiming PR like a Cop/Doctor/JK/something else? also a hammer?

In fairness, the hammer prevented any of those roles claiming day 1...

[Vedith]

What do you think of Heartless, Performer?

[Vedith]

or Ill vote you

[Vedith]

So it's pretty pointless to make up, right?
I think standard BP would have been better to lie with.

[Vedith]

Keep in mind that the BP is lynchable...

[Vedith]

@PV - Before you see the flip: You really going to push ika if performer is scum?

So you think scum Ika wouldn't hammer a buddy?

[Vedith]

VOTE: Teridax

And Heartless - Your read changes are garbage - just saying.

[Vedith]

Owie. That stings.

I'm sorry! But it's true!

Is it as bad as, I don't know, your lethargic Monkeyman push was on Day 1?

So you don't like Monkeyman as a lynch? Noted.

You were perfectly content sitting on that static vanity wagon for the majority of Day 1, that is until the floodgates opened on the Performer wagon with Max's vote. At that point, you made sure to lay it on thick (Post 562). I did like the line about the trunks and goggles, though. That was cute. ^_^

Thanks, I thought I would spice my post up a little.

[Vedith]

You shouldn't do that.

[Vedith]

I'm thinking about doing that.

[Vedith]

Scum save on Teridax wagon is too stronk.
WTB logic

[Vedith]

I don't admittedly like how adbest Vedith has been from the game since his wagon formed

Yeah, having a life on the weekends is a scum tell. I'm caught.

Also, Vedith's even stronger scum.

Nice, I'm strong...

So, if you lot are done with this, lets start looking for scum and actually play to our win conditions.

I'll do a catch up later but I'll pipe in for now.

[Vedith]

That's the worst kind of meta you have ever done.
I could give examples of both in either games but I don't actually care enough... Just make sure you are on my wagon if you want me lynched.

[Vedith]

I didn't really look into the people on the weekend.
You don't ping me as scum though if that helps?
I would suggest not as active as usual, but that's not a fair comment given that the game was slow during the weekend so I'll take that into consideration during the week.
And even though your scum reads are wrong, your attitude is a slight positive to the game.

[Vedith]

There's a difference from skimming posts and actually reading through them...
I can see someone's activity level in a game and not see what content they have.
- National fuckwit day...

[Vedith]

697

Yeah, the most spread out post going...

While we are at it, tell me my meta reason for being scum.

[Vedith]

Who do YOU have as Scum right now?

You seem to be defending yourself quite actively right now. Is there a reason for that? Like maybe you don't want to give anyone any ideas?

You can just have this instead. As your comment is so fucking stupid...

Scum wise. I'll go with MonkeyMan, Teridax and probably someone early on my wagon trying hard for a counter.

[Vedith]

Like WTF is this?

Well, it's not an invite to a dinner party, is it now?

[Vedith]

Mmm... actually I think I hit a nerve. Why would you be so blatant about your "Oh em gee, your so stupid LQ, why even try at this game?"

I'm pretty sure it's not the first time I've thought that your comment was really bad.

So talk to me, you have meta on me, lets hear it. Or is it you going "I have no clue in this game, lets give a read and say meta"?

[Vedith]

When you're Town and you are accused, you brush it off in a much more snarky, wiseguy comeback and I think as Scum you would just try to discredit everything thrown at you.

Hmm, so show me where this was different to when you were meta reading me in that post? Keep in mind, the post needs to be before your meta read comment.
The reason I'm getting "defensive" as you called it is because you are putting such garbage comments across. Would you prefer a pat on the head rather than me telling you how stupid you are? Either way works with me.

[Vedith]

Btw, are you not even going to question my scum reads?
You asked for them, and then have nothing to say over them?

[Vedith]

Why would it bother you at all if you think I got nothing on you? You're acting an awful lot like you DON'T like what I am doing right now.

Obviously if your wise guy comebacks were the only thing I had on you I would not have given the meta read on you in the first place. Did you not see that I have in fact read through the thread to some degree?

*Pats Lickety on the head*
There we go buddy...

...Sorry, I assumed that this was the option that you chose?

[Vedith]

And why would I question your Scum reads exactly? The are reads and nothing concrete at this point.

I did notice that you had mastin as Scum and I'd like you to explain that read please. "and probably someone early on my wagon trying hard for a counter." isn't exactly a read to write home about. Like why the super ambiguous "someone somewhere read"?

BTW this is a nice little distraction tactic to ask me why I didn't question your reads.

Why would you question my reads after asking for them? Well for a start, if you don't then I assume you also think they are scum, or good potential scum?

So, as you have no question to MoneyMan, you think scum too, right?

Mastin? I assume that is where my vote is on? Well, they seem more interested in asking for votes on themselves than anything else originally. It's a pretty good way to get town cred as "scum wouldn't do that".
There was a few things day 2 so far but I'd have to re read it over. I didn't like the pulling names out of who is bussing with no actual backing and so on...

I haven't looked enough to see who I think is scum on my wagon, but when I do, you'll be the first to know.

I'm glad that we had this little chat, it helped.
*Ruffles up Lickety's hair with a joke or 2*

[Vedith]

You know, if you played fewer games at one time it would be a lot easier to hide your Scumminess when you are Scum.

But yeah, I like you for Scum bunches.

Show me a scum game where I don't know what's going on.
Meta's a bitch, and you just took grabbed the sharp end.

[Vedith]

Yeah, that's right, you took and grabbed it...

[Vedith]

The BS meter is hitting the danger zone in this post.

Alright Sherlock - Take a bow.

[Vedith]

wow, the lengths you go to just keep ducking me are absurd.

Did you say something for me to answer?

[Vedith]

I'm not scum reading you though...

[Vedith]

Mod: our vote is on Vedith.

I took it off. I felt you were voting in the wrong place.
Can I suggest a self vote?

[Vedith]

Vedi, now that 610 is over, why does your play here feel different?

My play probably changes each game overall.
That's not really for me to judge though so I'm not really able to answer this question.

[Vedith]

youre lighter over here

I've been eating less cakes...

[Vedith]

Vedith is a bad vote, and you all should be ashamed of yourself for thinking he is scum (even though I myself do it like at least once every game I play with him)

Hey, that's fine. If anything this is getting information at least, eh?

[Vedith]

Vedith, question:
Whats your read on me?

You won't like it...

[Vedith]

Hi Panth!

Your partner voted me by accident, you should unvote!

[Vedith]

I wanted FB to ask what he wouldn't like about the read on him.

[Vedith]

I assumed you were going to say you had a null read.

No, I have a scum lean!
I don't buy the 'town slip' I think it was faked.

[Vedith]

I'm a little interested in what you're referring to here. There were several things I didn't like about the hydra's early play, but I don't recall this being one of them.

I mean the, "I need more votes on me" or whatever it was.
Also the "lets get a wagon" I'm not sure if they meant on themselves or what, as there were wagons...

[Vedith]

I'm pretty sure you are exaggerating when you say "universal scumread".

It seems pretty universal to me... Only scum will have you as town is you ask me...

[Vedith]

Matt is only town if RRis Scum.

So Matt is scum if RR is town?

[Vedith]

Probably is a nice get out of jail free pass.
I don't think that RR's flip has much indication on revealing Matt's.

[Vedith]

So town can't push wrong?
And scum can't push scum?

I like to think of them as null tells at this stage. And Matt'S game so far looks a lot more town than scum wouldn't you agree?

[Vedith]

I think it's really funny Vedith said this and then didn't vote any of Ceph's scumreads until Ved voted Performer way later in the day, immediately prior to Performer's lynch

Both were sarcasm... I'm pretty sure Ceph actually grasped that.
I have no interest in following over confident players.

[Vedith]

I'm not usually overconfident, I'm just very right this game!

And comments like this make me not really care for what you say, as having comments like this suggest that you will be too stubborn to listen to others.

[Vedith]

It always amazes me when people show up just as soon as they are mentioned -almost like they were there the whole time but decided to not make their presents know. I have a crazy theory about this one too. I bet you can guess what it is though.

It always amazes me how often this gets used against me.I think my name was mentioned a few more times since I last posted but don't take them into consideration...
You should also check where people are posting and the amount they are posting before you try and make such a stupid comment.

[Vedith]

Dear lord, no.

I'm the poster child for not believing I could possibly have good reads. My lack of confidence will return eventually, it always does.

Then I've probably just mis read you. As long as you are open for discussion when the time comes, then I don't have an issue with confidence in suspecting scum.

[Vedith]

Err... You're free to discuss????

I have nothing to discuss in that matter.
But thanks for letting me know I can do it, that was stopping me before hand!

[Vedith]

[Vedith]

Vedith-pisskop on page 42 looks scum-scum banter btw.

Oh please, we have day chat for that...

[Vedith]

So, anything new happened? I'm too busy to catch up.

[Vedith]

Oh cool, I look forward to you being on my lynch.

[Vedith]

I thought you said you weren't going to interact with me for the rest of the game. What made you change your mind if you don't mind me asking?

Lets not be children now deciding who can and can't play football with one another.

On other notes -

UNVOTE: Mastin
VOTE: RR

Yeah I think the reaction to the back up BP is a better reason rather than the "He didn't crumb day 1".
Who cares if it was crumbed or not, it's so easy to crumb a fake role, and with the amount of text they have, I bet there's a god damn crumb for every role!

L1

[Vedith]

Ok I didn't like Vedith's vote

Luckily the vote wasn't to impress you.

[Vedith]

P-Edit: Super surprising that Vedith puts us at L-1 when he was the mysterious beneficiary of a wagon that just dissipated while he lurked and avoided calling attention to himself. Pretty scummy move there Vedith.

Hey, you told me to do it in our day chat...
And I'm pretty sure my wagon didn't get over 5, but feel free to correct me if needed.

[Vedith]

Vedith was wagoned briefly and then we were the counterwagon to him

At that point, town started to play right, eh?

[Vedith]

I'm the Backup 1-shot Bulletproof.

Yup.

[Vedith]

VOTE COUNT
Botlane (1): Spiffeh
LicketyQuickety (1): Reasonably Rational
MonkeyMan576 (1): BotLane
pisskop (1): LicketyQuickety
Reasonably Rational (7): Cephrir, Firebringer, PeregrineV, MonkeyMan576, Kthxbye, MattP, pisskop
Teridax (1): Vedith
Vedith (2): Teridax, HerryPanther
Not voting (3): davesaz, TheWayItEnds, Heartless

With 17 players alive, it takes 9 votes to lynch.

Day 2 ends in 7 days, 15 hours, 52 minutes.

This was the last one, Lickety.

[Vedith]

I think that's L1 again. Just to be clear.

[Vedith]

Why not just vig Vedith so we don't have to deal with that tomorrow

Cheers buddy! I like you too!

[Vedith]

I know what you meant lol.
But can I strongly advise that I'm not vigged. Thanks.

[Vedith]

Would you guys like it if I replaced?

No one said anything to you?

[Vedith]

What do you mean?

I don't understand why you said that comment without anyone saying anything to you?

[Vedith]

I guess it's better to lynch me than to get a Vig to shoot me.

[Vedith]

I guess it's better to lynch me than to get a Vig to shoot me.

NEITHER IS GOOD THEY ARE BOTH EQUALLY STUPID/BAD IF YOU ARE TOWN!!!!

I'm just going to out it, we can either waste time here or lynch me. At least if you change your minds we can actually go for scum.
I am the Vengeful town. This is why it's better for me to get lynched as then I have a shot at taking down scum with me. Now, if I am lynched, keep note of who isn't on my wagon.

So lets either do it, or move on to where we can actually find town.

[Vedith]

We can all go for MonkeyMan instead, since people are letting RR off.

[Vedith]

Keep in mind at this point for every wagon we push its another claim.

So what do you suggest?

[Vedith]

Listen if we are going to lynch Vedith we need to figure out who he should venge kill.

It will be Lickety.

[Vedith]

Vedith if you were a true friend you would vengekill RR so we can big mastin

Are they even voting me?

[Vedith]

You should shoot MonkeyMan, he is a lurker.

Again, not voting me...

Anyone you say "Vedith should kill as well" won't vote me regardless of align...

I have 3 names I suspect, if I am lynched I'm sure at least 1 will be on me.

[Vedith]

Vedi claimed vengeful?

Yeah.

[Vedith]

I was hoping that it would stop wasting a pointless push on me, but regardless, the show must go on, eh?

[Vedith]

I don't think so

Then how can I vote them?!

[Vedith]

Just stay on my lynch then, if you don't believe it, you have nothing to fear.

[Vedith]

Yup.

[Vedith]

What kind of Venge is that?
Thats crap.
Now all scum are going to unvote you >.>

That's why you keep an eye on who unvotes/avoids the wagon.

[Vedith]

Yup, it says I can revenge kill someone who lynches me.

[Vedith]

Because he doesn't care who gets voted off.

[Vedith]

VOTE: RR

Yeah, this was a long time ago...

[Vedith]

Proving your point how?
You said it was a long time ago... It was like an hour ago?

[Vedith]

I checked the timestamp, It was an hour ago.

So how was that ages ago?

[Vedith]

Seriously, I'm going to take advantage of what others did Lickety, and stop the conversation because you are just typing crap to cover up your lie.

Moving on.

[Vedith]

hey guys

someone is still a dirty rotten scumbag
i'll give you a hint. his name starts with "fire" and ends with "bringer"

plz tell me if you give up and want me to tell you who it is. i bet you'll never guess.

Is it MonkeyMan?

[Vedith]

Finally! ¬¬

UNVOTE: Lickety
VOTE: Lickety

In before "Do you want me to replace out response"

[Vedith]

That was actually

UNVOTE: RR
VOTE: Lickety

[Vedith]

your vedith defense is toothless and designed to fail

Not to mention that his "town slip" earlier in the game looked faked.

[Vedith]

Intent to hammer after 2 more votes.

[Vedith]

Monkeyman claim

He hasn't done anything else, why would he claim?

[Vedith]

it would've also taken some pre-planning on vedith's part that i don't think he could do.

This offends me

[Vedith]

[Vedith]

relax. To curb an honest assessment of the gamestate to spare feelings is wrong. Its not an insult, its an observation. Do you now how much skill would be required? The amount of endurance and patiance? It takes real dedication.

I was kidding. XD

[Vedith]

If it makes you feel better I have a participation ribbon for you

Accepted

[Vedith]

Although it is interesting that they both claimed 1 shot when we havent seen that modifier on any flipped players.

So anyone who is town with a 1 shot ability will probably be lynched now? Is that what you are saying?

[Vedith]

As much as I don't want to lynch Vedith while he's being a stubborn fuck about his target, the more he is a stubborn fuck about his target the more I think he's scum.

How am I being stubborn about my target? XD
I haven't out right refused to cooperate with town...

[Vedith]

I think that what I actually said if I have 3 targets and I assume that at least 1 would be on my wagon...

[Vedith]

I think that what I actually said if I have 3 targets and I assume that at least 1 would be on my wagon...

that is not cooperating with the town

cooperating is "you do exactly what we tell you"

What you tell me?
So you are confirmed town? Quote to post, I missed it, thanks.

[Vedith]

I'm fine with that.
But so early in the game scum are going to be voicing their opinions on who to choose.
Just because it sounds like a good idea, doesn't make it a good idea.

So get out of here with your bollocks reason to try lynching me and then you personally deciding who I should choose. XD

[Vedith]

Yeah, and only 1 was dead when I was "resisting"... Which was hardly resisting or whatever term you used.
You sure give the attitude that it should be your choice... This refers back to my comment on you earlier in the game.

[Vedith]

It's odd that Davesaz goes from more of a non lynch to a lynch lead in 1 night?
Did I miss the midnight party where he got trashed and pissed in someones beer?

[Vedith]

As much as I don't want to lynch Vedith while he's being a stubborn fuck about his target, the more he is a stubborn fuck about his target the more I think he's scum.

How am I being stubborn about my target? XD
I haven't out right refused to cooperate with town...

You know you're in a bad way with Town when you have to default to saying you are not out right refusing to cooperate with Town.

Die Scum.

Anyone reading Lickety as town please explain why again.
I mean, what has he really done apart from fuck all?

[Vedith]

I made a case against MM that I couldn't explain why it made him Scum.

And that makes you town how?
I wanted to vote him off day 1, but that doesn't give any alignment indication.

[Vedith]

You didn't give evidence...

[Vedith]

I seriously think Vedith is town

i seriously think you're wrong

and we're not friend anymore.

Face it, you read me wrong every game.

[Vedith]

Cool, so you've never been on a scum team with them. That's something. Tho I guess it means you share some experience together and I don't know that people always get it wrong, so there's also that.... Hmmm.

I haven't been scum with them in a game at all.
But every game they want me lynched. xD

[Vedith]

Than you must be doing something right.. or completely wrong... one of the two.

Or Heartless just thinks too much of themselves to admit being wrong. The most plausible answer.

[Vedith]

*yawn*

[Vedith]

*yawn*

yeah this is a guy with a vengekill

Because you can't bore people with a venge kill. I mean fuck logic, right?

[Vedith]

I think we have enough to flip Vedith.

And then scum chimes in.
The 'leaders' of the town are fucking bad in this one anyway, I bet Lickety makes it to the end... XD

[Vedith]

that's why you're here to save the day with your sooper dooper vengekill.

save it from all these egoists and bad players.

right?

Well even if you lot are playing anti town, I'm not going to have you lot claim that I am anti town to get out of you having such a terrible read on me once again. XD
So you lot decide who I choose and I will.

As I said though, since you think your shit doesn't smell, you will choose not Lickety.

[Vedith]

From your attitude every game I've seen you in.

[Vedith]

I'm not scum.
I just have that opinion on you.
I don't think that you are as good as you think you are on this game, and it's proven time and time again when in each game you call me scum and get it wrong.

So yeah, give me a name you want killed on my wagon, and if it's majority decided I'll go with it.
Otherwise I see no reason for us to continue a conversation.

[Vedith]

I'm really not interested in continuing this conversation with you.
My opinion on you is my opinion on you. I'm sure you have a negative opinion on me too. But we will both get past that.

[Vedith]

Yes I meant Ved.

LQ, u will vote Ved. Ved, I'd like ypu to veng kill LQ. I'm on phone so I can't qupte, bit you call LQ scum for what he said yet cuz heart wants the venge kill on LQ you won't do it? Explain this pls

If majority say Lickety, then I will.
As it stands, 100% say him, so it's him.

[Vedith]

So, is that enough to convince people that Lickety is scum?
He won't vote for me as scum know that my claim is true.

Anks right with Herry's post.
Herry is also scum for me.

[Vedith]

Lickety where did this sudden scum read of me come from?

It came as a diversion so he doesn't need to vote me.

[Vedith]

Lickety where did this sudden scum read of me come from?

When I started rereading the past 30 pages.

Could you at least go more in depth about it?

[Vedith]

Votes on lickety seems like a waste.

Why?

[Vedith]

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Yikes, I know! :S

For what it's worth, Vedith, it was really my read. I just talked Anti into it. I know I misread you in Persona but I had no idea about this animosity and if you said something before the game started I would have bowed out. I'll keep that in mind for the future.

Question unrelated to this subject but game related: Do you play mafia anywhere besides MafiaScum and SC2?

You being in the game isn't an issue. I just have that opinion. I won't not join a game because you are in it.

I only play on another site where Mafia is a side game (1 game running a time).

[Vedith]

Lets see the knight come marching in...

VOTE: LQ

[Vedith]

Why? I don't think he is Scum.

Seriously... We need to lynch him... If you don't see this as scum now, then even when he flips scum you won't believe it.
He decided that I wasn't a scum read the moment he was told to vote me!
Scum can't afford to lose another today so it's obvious that he will fight it.

As stated already, he didn't even say it's because he wants to die, but because he doesn't think I'm scum?

I think we have enough to flip Vedith.

yep

vote him

Yes I meant Ved.

LQ, u will vote Ved. Ved, I'd like ypu to veng kill LQ. I'm on phone so I can't qupte, bit you call LQ scum for what he said yet cuz heart wants the venge kill on LQ you won't do it? Explain this pls

Going to reread that last 30 pages.

To this...

Vedith is Town because Spiffeh said earlier that they are scum and I am Scum reading Spiffeh HARD!

[Vedith]

I just want scum Ank dead and Vedith is my null pile so idc if he has to die to get that to happen.

Wasn't I in your "unlynchable" pile at the start of this day?

He doesn't even call me scum!

[Vedith]

he wants to die

He doesn't want to die, I mean.

[Vedith]

So why did you start town reading me Lickety? And why did you say Spiffeh called me scum?

[Vedith]

K, just putting this here.

So where does he call me scum?
Why should I not be on the table as not confirmed town?

[Vedith]

Can we just decide to lynch someone and if it is me then decide who to venge kill as well.
Games just dragging.

[Vedith]

UNVOTE: LQ
VOTE: Ankamius

[Vedith]

Prod received.

[Vedith]

Most likely LQ/Ank.
My opinions haven't changed 1 bit.

[Vedith]

and it's not like they're going to be quivering in fear of his scumhunting prowess

I was right about MM. Just saying
But yeah, people tunnelling towards you and doing nothing else(yes this is directed at you) doesn't give the motivation to put full speculation in.
As stated before, I'm fine with lynching me, everyone can agree who I venge kill and we will call it a day.
The only reason scum won't kill me is because I am constantly getting doubted by the "town leaders". This is where either scum or the 3rd party is at (keeping in mind it wasn't a vig).

[Vedith]

So Dave and TWIE, get voting.

[Vedith]

Well what do you think Vedith?

About what?

[Vedith]

Oh that's a hammer.
Yeah I actually kill the last person on my wagon or who visits me. I was hoping that TWIE would vote me but Matt is dead too, lets hope he's scum, eh?

Tomorrow I would highly suggest looking at Heartless and Ceph (And probably FB, not had a town vibe all game from him).

[Vedith]

or who visits me

Visits me and kills me I mean.

[Vedith]

Nope. I'm not one to lie after a flip regardless of align seems pointless.

[Vedith]

I wanted to draw a night kill instead but heartless and ceph just wanted to keep pointing the attention onto me so that wasn't going to happen.
Should have made dave or TWIE hammer me but Matt jumped straight on before I had a chance to post again.

[Vedith]

In fairness you haven't done anything in this game apart from park your vote on me.
I'm so surprised that more people aren't questioning you being town.

[Vedith]

If I did decide it would have been between you and FB.

[Vedith]

you don't get to critique anyone's gameplay

I already did.
I think your play has been equally shit as you have done nothing. XD
I was actually with lynching scum, I wanted MM lynched. You just sat there refusing to look into the game and just decided that I was the only target to vote for (easy miss lynch you saw)

[Vedith]

That's a terrible defense for you doing nothing all game.
At least I can see I did a shot job, you are just blind at this stage.

[Vedith]

Even before it sounded like a lie Ceph was calling it a lie as soon as I claimed vengeful without details.
So your augment is invalid.

So I should have said that if I'm killed I kill my killer and if I'm lynched I kill the final lyncher. (I mean, a great excuse to not have been killed, right)

And you would have all gone, oh boy he's telling the truth.
The tunnelling would have been there regardless.

[Vedith]

I think the reason I was targeted first as scum was because Performer called me town after he was lynched.
Your mind was set from that stage.
Yup, I claimed badly, but this is down to your constant tunnelling too. Tunnelling is anti town. But I'm sure you will disagree with that.

[Vedith]

But you were happy to vote park all day yesterday. xD
You didn't even try for discussion on it.

You can try and act like you done nothing wrong, I've admitted that I went wrong with the claim, shame you feel like you were in the right the whole time.
Not much I can say to that.

Lets just enjoy the flip, hope that Matt is SK and part our ways.

[Vedith]

Vedith, you fucking KNEW you were going to be today's lynch. You KNEW it! This means your whole 'derr, I was hoping scum would nk me derr' excuse is shit on top of shit.

Yup I knew it was going to me but I couldn't see TWIE or Dave vote me if I said my role.
I didn't know Matt would suddenly jump over.
I even posted saying for either of them to get on. What can I say?

[Vedith]

i initially townread you for that vengeful claim. you are so full of crap.

NOT YOU!
I was talking about Ceph.
I know you thought it was town...

[Vedith]

and to think you have the gall to accuse anyone else of being a know-it-all

I actually just think you are the 'know it all player' no one else.
You didn't know this one though.

[Vedith]

Guess what happens if they refuse to hammer....

You're still alive and we lynch them...

That's a pretty easy role to claim as scum then. It gives you a free pass.
And that's not true, I would have been lynched for originally lying. You can try and ice it up as you like, it's still the same result.

[Vedith]

It was piss poor play.

Learn from it instead of defending it.

I've already said I admit it was a shit play.
Just no one wants to read that part I guess. o.0

[Vedith]

I really don't do that after a lynch, it has no benefit either align.
I'm town, I haven't read any previous games of the host so I wouldn't know.
I didn't know that this was a requirement when given such a role sadly...

[Vedith]

Also, FB really needs to be poked at. He calls me town when he is scum and calls me scum when he is town.
He was defending me for no reason early game.

I'll leave it at that and I apologies to town for being shit at Mafia Scum. Good luck on finding scum.

[Vedith]

BTW Vedith.... ^THIS is how town play.

Keep crying about it won't change it.