Twilight Zone Mafia - game over

[Elbirn]

I've seen elbrn's truth teller PMs so I trust him. Didn't you get one of those, wake? I don't believe we ever saw what it said.

I never received one from the moderator, which is another reason I feel a little uneasy.

That...might have been something to claim when it happened :/

So there's either a role blocker or a redirector

[Elbirn]

Told he was a miller when he was a godfather*

I believe that was him pulling some shit after I targeted him, yes. I claimed so long long ago.

[Elbirn]

Skybirds probably 1 shot joat.

So....why did you role block me?

[Elbirn]

VOTE: xtoxm

[Elbirn]

Yeah I was gonna note that wake didn't vote him, I did.

[Elbirn]

Convince me xtoxm is scum, it will make me feel all warm and fuzzy inside

[Elbirn]

VOTE: pepto

yep
/sips beer

...

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Peptobislawl

I like the cut of your jib

[Elbirn]

So... I'm thinking things need to be said, because other people aren't bringing them up.

Let's say Elbirn really is a Truth Teller, and that he can target a player and learn if he or she has any bastardy in his or her role PM.

Okay. Does that mean he's Town? I'm not comfortable at all with people assuming he's Town because he has this ability. At all.

Not saying you're Scum, but I'm definitely not going to assume you're Town over it either. Also you said in 3232 that you had a reason for your question. Could you share it please?

I wanted to not say it until everyone had a chance to call me a scumshit or not.

Basically, I think suspecting me might be a mild town tell.

Maybe I'm biased but I think I'm pretty solidly town and the whole damn game wrote me off as town a while ago. But I'm still alive..why? We had a no kill in lieu of killing me like wtf

I'm thinking that I'm either way off with my suspicions and/or I'm playing like garbage so scum want to keep me alive until lylo.

If that's the case why would any scum try to push a mislynch on me? Especially when the rest of the game clearly isn't having it, it's not a good push for scum to make no matter how you look at it.

And that, everyone, is reason #17491048 why Wake is town.

[Elbirn]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Shiro

Fuckit it's shiro do I win

[Elbirn]

It's pretty not logical, but idk that it's scumshittery. I think nics play really picked up by mid-late game and I'm okay with him.

You should sheep me on shiro though guts got a good feeling about it

[Elbirn]

I saw it, it was pretty low key tho

[Elbirn]

Honestly?

I could see the mod having a small inconsistency like that and I don't think stringing him up over it is a great idea.

[Elbirn]

Pepto before you go

How the hell is skybird scum if he has an un-cc'd vig?

[Elbirn]

Targeted wake last night

[Elbirn]

I'd like to note that if there are two scum left today is Mylo

Don't fuck up, us

[Elbirn]

Smart scum would just kill me or skybird, and then we've gained nothing, are no closer to PoE'ing the game, and just lost a town vote

Then again this games scum left two outed pr's alive the whole game

[Elbirn]

*popcorn*

[Elbirn]

See I was thinking that, and it may be a safe assumption. But idk how balance works, 5 scum and a sk is a lot for a 21 player game, it's almost 33% scum.

Anyway

VOTE: Shiro

[Elbirn]

Stop being scum shir.

#ScumCaughtForWrongReasons
#NoFilter
#MCM

[Elbirn]

Wake what did my truth teller say?

[Elbirn]

UNVOTE:

Nah no l-1's yet, I likey talkey.

[Elbirn]

I will say it kinda makes sense to have him as a role blocker as opposed to a jailkeeper with there being a doctor in the game

But then again that doesn't correlate with anything and I'm just insane. I think my thought was that jk is a town role and role blockers are the scum version, so I was justifying the existence of a town role blocker. Idk I'm tired I slept for maybe 4 hours which is not at all what I'm used to.

[Elbirn]

.....oh fuck wake you are scum aren't you?

[Elbirn]

See wake my issue with your claim is that if you're telling the truth you damn near had a guilty on anti and you didn't out it.

Yeah scum could have no killed, but that's information town needs to have because it's reasonable to assume anti scum. That's the kind of thing that needs to be revealed before a lylo situation so we can sort it out.

[Elbirn]

See wake my issue with your claim is that if you're telling the truth you damn near had a guilty on anti and you didn't out it.

Yeah scum could have no killed, but that's information town needs to have because it's reasonable to assume anti scum. That's the kind of thing that needs to be revealed before a lylo situation so we can sort it out.

I alone decide when I do things.

And I don't buy that there are two Scum left. It's likely only one remains.

Yesterday I could have claimed, but I feel more comfortable now, and now you know what happened.

If that is not good enough for you, honestly I don't care. If you want to debate it in the future, I don't mind.

If I'm speaking to town wake, your devil may care attitude is all fine and well, but town is a team and we need to work together to play optimally. I am of the opinion that optimal play would have been to out that when it happened, and now we're in an uncertain situation. :/

If I am speaking to scum wake, and if there are two scum left and this is mylo, you've created a decent mislynch opportunity in Antihero for the win, so congrats. Don't think I don't see that though.

[Elbirn]

Shit I still think it is impossible anti is scum.

I refuse to accept that scum would have pushed a buddy as some weird cult leader whatever

Why not?

[Elbirn]

Shit I still think it is impossible anti is scum.

I refuse to accept that scum would have pushed a buddy as some weird cult leader whatever

Why not?

Warped pushed the idea that he was cult leader like come on. What are the chances that was some weird bus?

I truly do not see your point.

It's weird at all that anyone would push someone as a cult leader in a game that explicitly states no cults. I don't see how that's alignment indicative at all and if anything I'd say it's a really weird move to distance from a partner.

[Elbirn]

VOTE: Xtoxm

What do people think about the no kill?

if you have a roleblock as part of your joat that's probably it

Why didn't you consider the possibility that scum opted not to kill?

[Elbirn]

inattentiveness is not a towntell here.

in fact, i would argue the opposite.

I can.

I am a Roleblocker.

A Town Roleblocker.

Make of that what you will.

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

so.......


how 'bout that no-kill last night??????

oh i'm fucking stupid i thought it was a no-kill....

wasn't there a no-kill recently???????

Ayyyyyy lmao

[Elbirn]

UNVOTE:

Forget I had a vote out on shiro.
It's either anti or wake. Either anti submitted a kill and was Roleblocked by wake, or the no kill and the follow up explanation 2 days later is scum wakes plan to mislynch in mylo.

[Elbirn]

VOTE: antihero

[Elbirn]

Yeah anti a shit, all you've had to contribute here is throwing shit on everyone who points suspicion your way.

You got Roleblocked doing a nk, you can die. It's you.

[Elbirn]

is no lynching a bad idea

Yes

[Elbirn]

I'm smearing shit by voting the guy who got Roleblocked the same night there was a no kill. Uh huh.

Anti you're getting put in the ground today, you're scum.

[Elbirn]

Elbirn, who have you truth'd thus far?

Out of everyone alive

Skybird
Wake88

I believe that's all. Everyone else is dead no?

[Elbirn]

Haven't we already massclaimed?

Me - truth teller
Wake - 50% chance of roleblocker
Skybird - joat
Shiro - weird unlynchable spaceship thing
Xtoxm - ???
Antihero - ???

[Elbirn]

I do have one last ability. I can choose two people at night and the following day those are the only two people who can be voted. If everyone could give me two names that they think are scum, I will definitely take that into consideration.

I think that's not a great utility for town.. considering were either in mylo or frankly probably heading to lylo, limiting our lynch pool is a bad idea? Imagine if you pick two targets to be gladiated, one of them is nk'D that night and the other is town. We just lost.

[Elbirn]

Regardless, look can we lynch anti already? He got blocked doing a nk. He dies.

[Elbirn]

I thought I responded to this but apparently not..

If I truth tell skybird again (who's already conf town we can trust), then yeah we can conf town me.. but man I'm already conf town, and I don't see how it's make you conf town, and frankly I'd rather you used your role block on one of xtoxm/shiro and hope for a no nk.

[Elbirn]

Vote:No lynch

Regardless, look can we lynch anti already? He got blocked doing a nk. He dies.

[Elbirn]

Strong arming a lynch on anti apparently, why?

[Elbirn]

>we no lynch
>scum kill me or skybird
>game is no closer to being solved and we've lost a vote

No lynch is mathematically shite.

Anyway I've had wake as town the whole game, idgaf I buy it. If he were scum setting anti up as a mislynch why has he been hands off this entire time? He hasn't pushed him at all

[Elbirn]

I think a no lynch is the wrong thing to do. Come on and vote.

Since no one has told me who they think should be gladiated, I'm going to submit Shiro and Antihero as the two names. If we lynch Anti and he's town, then I will submit Wake in his place.

I already told you a Gladiate is a shit thing and to not do it homie

[Elbirn]

Wake, anti is not definitely scum of course. No one's definitely anything. This is a game of rhetoric and probability and at this point I think anti is most probably scum. You have like a weak-guilty on him. We need to lynch that.

[Elbirn]

Bump,somebody hammer PLEASE

[Elbirn]

I targeted skybird again to prove that I wasn't blocked. Did not think about him possibly being killed..

Xtoxm anti was right,you never did claim.

[Elbirn]

Do you have any reason for not just claiming in mylo or are you just being an obstinate ass?

*rubs temples*

Yeah we lost this game.

[Elbirn]

1. Skybird is conf town

2. I can trust him therefore to accurately report whether or not a message was received

3. Shiro or xtoxm are the last scum, targeting one of them would be dicey as they could lie

4. I don't want possible scum knowing their non bastard role

[Elbirn]

I guess we should NL here.

VOTE: no lynch

What is your role.

[Elbirn]

vt

Flavah?

[Elbirn]

K.

I pretty much wanna lynch shiro and be done with this

[Elbirn]

You don't think shiro's role could be the missing scum role?

[Elbirn]

To spill wine everywhere?
And cuz I'm shite at this game?

Actually maybe it's not so much wanting me in this game as it is there were better targets, I'd kill a joat before I kill an anti-bastardizer.

[Elbirn]

My options are this

1. Kill the guy who hard defended the neighborhood that had two scum in it, by flavor only, and whose role is prolly a scum role

2. Believe in wifom being a thing re: nks, and scum xtoxm has been taking the necessary steps to set up wake for a lylo death

3. Believe wifom is bullshit and everyone dies for a reason, kill wake with great vengeance

It could be any of you, idfc anymore I basically just want all my games to be over so I don't have to deal with this shit no more, I'm depressed and it's cold and I wanna watch netflix

[Elbirn]

Xtoxm if you actually believe what you said earlier re:wake, why would you want a no lynch today?

[Elbirn]

I lied

No way scum shiro has the balls to hard defend the neighborhood the way he did.

It's wake or xtoxm, wakes play the last few days has sucked and I think xtoxm has made good points, but then I think xtoxm could be scum who set wake up.

[Elbirn]

So xtoxm, you're scum-wake and you've been nk'ing everyone who scumreads you. Why do you kill skybird and not xtoxm?

[Elbirn]

Wake: can you please give your whole role? Like I know it's been said but just to be absolutely clarified if you please, your flavor, name, and all of yo abilities. Ty

Happy gobble gobble gaiz

[Elbirn]

I did some digging around the only scum lynch we got.

Vote count:

Pepto (2) shiro, warped
NicCage (2) wake, massive
BMR (2) XXB, skybird
Warped (4) bmr, xtoxm, elbirn, niccage, xxb, pepto, anti

Not voting:

Day 4 With 12 alive it will take 7 to lynch
Deadline: (expired on 2015-10-24 08:00:00)

Lynch has been reached.
Please stand by.

Wake and shiro both off wagon, Xtoxm was on and on early, encouraged the wagon.

@xxb

1. Ask Lizard. I was not here day 1 I replaced in day 3

2. Didn't he replace Drixx ? Meh I thought Drixx was town nothing strong on warped. He is part of the hood though so there is that.

I'd find it odd to believe that a scum shiro makes this post after warped is hammered. Like "oh eh whatever I thought he has town" like idk.

Everything's peachy over here, don't vote me

VOTE: NicCage

I've got your ass, motherfucker.

First I'd like to note this is one of the best things I've read in a game.
But yeah this was the last thing wake did that day.

VOTE: BMR

We are doing this. Wake and I are bulletproof townies. I am bulletproof to either the Devil or Gremlin. He's bulletproof to the other.

Vote BMR or NicCage.

Fire and Ice Baby.

Idk how to feel about this.

(I typeD this up earlier and saved as a draft and decided to ask wake to clarify his role before posting. Time for more digging to see if I'm on to something or just full of hot air)

[Elbirn]

Okay, to put it into a question for ya.

1. What in the world was post 2954, linked above, which contradicts your role claim and that from what I can tell you never addressed?

2. Extra credit: can you tell us who you targeted with your role block and what nights, like the whole list of your actions

[Elbirn]

You start shooting as in were all endgamed and you call the game a tie or you start shooting as in you random kill one of us?

[Elbirn]

Pretty much yeah

I'm just sitting here twiddling my thumbs wondering if something majicks gonna happen like suddenly wake turns everything around and I realize it's not him it's you or shiro because x y z and then I'm the hero of the day because I saw through your evil plot

Anyway I'm conf town now sk there's that

[Elbirn]

Yeah actually wait what the FUCK

That was the night of the no kill, and I pushed to have anti lynched over that and now you're saying it was massive

[Elbirn]

16 hours left

Wake if you're town you better convince me before I hammer yo ass

[Elbirn]

If you guys want I can extend the day end till Sunday night.

Yes please

[Elbirn]

And so it was that I begged for more time and then pissed away 12 hours hanging out with frands on a Saturday and now I wanna sleep

I'm not very good at this.



Wake, you keep saying "it's either Xtoxm or shiro". Okay...great. but *why*. Can you read them over and tell me what makes them scum, or town? Shiro you've given us "he defended the neighborhood" which yeah I'm guilty of relying on that as evidence too so fuck me, but can you give me something more? Xtoxm you basically just say that if he's scum you don't see it, well look, look with your special eyes!

What I wanna know, if it's shiro or xtoxm, and you're clearly leaning on shiro, why are you voting for no lynch?

[Elbirn]

well look, look with your special eyes!

MY BRAND

SHIRO!

Shiro who is scum pls help


If you're town you get to help me not crack from the pressure of this game falling on my shoulders to win or to lose

If you're scum you get to look good for appearing busy in lylo

It's a win win!

[Elbirn]

Oh fuck it it's xtoxm

VOTE: xtoxm

I'm either a psychic or I threw the game away, either way I did it all for the lulz

[Elbirn]

VOTE: Wake88

Jk

[Elbirn]

*crosses fingers for victory*

Shiro you scum or trolling? Just cuz you're here, I'll be sad if you're actually scum

[Elbirn]

I really wish I was scum going for style points

But I solemnly promise my townliness here. There really was a moment where I thought xtoxm would have been smart enough to bus warped for maximum cred-itude and then set up wake with the nk's. Particularly with him being the one to bring the nka up first.

Then I bought his ate when he was mad enough to call me the r word

Also I'm working on a theory that wifom is bullshit and should just be cut right through. Today we'll see if that theory is right.

[Elbirn]

Well that might have been the longest game I've been in

Good game all, will be here as always for post game chatter. Feel free to yell at me about how I could play better I always appreciate it ^^;

[Elbirn]

I'm p. sure Elbirn has been wrong on like everything ever.

Yeah but elbirn is fun.

I might finally have something to put in my signature xP
That or quoting a bit of antihero's rage towards me

Someday I'll be good at this game. I think I need to take a break though cuz I'm clearly burnt out my give-a-fuck is pretty much broken

[Elbirn]

It's ok Elbirn it's easy to say those things when I have spoilers

No but I meant that sincerely, it's nice and pretty reflective of me. "Well, he's way off but he's fun". I like it xD

[Elbirn]

Elbirn you know we both hit nacho n1? When you came in d2 saying nacho would have something itneresting to say, I laughed.

Ayyy lmao

I wish I had hit elli instead while he was alive