The Third Fortnight (Game Over [Bonus Round])

[SnarkySnowman]

VOTE: Marquis

Dancing around your alignment always seems like it should be a scumtell.

[SnarkySnowman]

VOTE: Quilford

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I figured that, being a large game that only lasts two weeks, I'd be struggling to keep up. That doesn't seem to be the case at all.

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alright. im gonna give reads when i get home and then im probably replacing. im done with mafia.

gork no :C

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can everyone stop giving me sympathy? like. im a serial replacer. i dont deserve pity for it.

I actually like how you play, and hate when replacements happen, so don't replace out please D:

As for The Bulge, since we're on that, he's in my null pile because he has pretty much nothing for content.

idk i'll just shut the fuck up now since apparently everything i say is something contentious and offensive and demeaning

Nah, it just seemed like a bizarre, unnecessary and irrelevant comment to make.

>20% seems like a high-ish mislynch rate. someone who's better at statistics than me can run a test (binomial? fuck i don't know i took stats in college 4 years ago and i haven't used it since, i don't remember much) and compare it to random

it's not an insult

it is what is

As for the mislynch rate, that depends on how many chances to be lynched there are vs how many times the player is mislynched, chance of being lynched if random, etc. It's more complicated than x games out of n.

Also I think this is a discussion that sees a dead end fairly quickly. But while we're on the topic of Davsto, there's little to no scumhunting there either. Nullscum for me.

Also, Katsuki is null, Marquis is nullscum, Antihero is a (cautious) townlean, hiplop nullscum.


Current reads:

Town { }
Townlean {Antihero, Gorkington}
Nulltown { }
Null {The bulge, Katsuki}
Nullscum {Marquis, Davsto, hiplop}
Scumlean { }
Scum { }

Unread Atm {Bins, Cogito Ero Sum, JohnnyFarrar, KuroiXHF, Quilford, T-bone, xRECKONERx, zMuffinMan}

[SnarkySnowman]

VOTE: hiplop

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Taking a look at Dav/hiplop - I think both are actually feeling townie, but I want to check on that a bit more.

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I think both hiplop and dav go in my town pile.

[SnarkySnowman]

VOTE: quilford

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To update:

Town {Antihero, Gorkington}
Townlean {Davsto, hiplop}
Nulltown { }
Null {The bulge, Katsuki}
Nullscum {Marquis, Cogito Ero Sum}
Scumlean {Quilford}
Scum { }


Unread Atm {Bins, JohnnyFarrar, KuroiXHF, T-bone, xRECKONERx, zMuffinMan}

[SnarkySnowman]

For me? Nah. I just had the most to catch up on in this game so I got to it last, that's all.

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JohnnyFarrar's catch-up post feels somewhat fake in that there was nothing really objectionable in it, at least to me - reading him in detail next.

[SnarkySnowman]

Can confirm - johnny is the man. Townread.

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On a related note, Quilford, why have you been ignoring Snarky's vote on you and why did you have him as weak town in #557?

If someone doesn't give any reasons why they're voting me, I just assume they've mixed up which end of their readslist is labelled town and which is labelled scum.

Don't quote me on this, but I think it was because he was the first to point out that Davsto hadn't been scumhunting in the early game? When I made that readslist though, I was pretty desperate to narrow my list of null reads down a bit, so I was giving town points to anyone who said something I vaguely agreed with.

Not so, I had a reason for voting you - let me post the case when I get back from jury duty.

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Is your read list backwards Davsto
?

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I'll be in before deadline again. I'm pretty sure it's not hiplop. Marquis slot pings the strongest, and quilford the next strongest.

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Guys Quilford is probably scum. I don't believe PV or hiplop are scum, they are pretty lame wagons and I don't want any part of either of them.

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Also, marquis has posted even less positions and content than me - that's a great lurking strategy for scum, and the reason he doesn't belong out of my scumpile.

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Final readlist from me

Town {Antihero, Gorkington, Kuroi, Davsto, hiplop}
Townlean {The Bulge, Katsuki, PV, Muffinz, Nosferatu, JohnnyFarrar}
Scumlean {Marquis, Coggy}
Scum {Quilford}

I'm certain hiplop is town, and less certain but leaning town on PV.

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Ugh I'm town again.

I don't even like playing scum but come on

Always makes me suspicious, though that's a minor point.

If you want to vote someone who's not posting much, aim lower because I'm in the middle of the pack.

I want to vote someone who's not giving any visible appearance that they're scumhunting, and you fit that criterion perfectly.

Irony.

There are certain people who I am deliberately not voting even though I think they are scummy because I don't want to make a move yet, want more content from them before I start something

Go on? I don't think you ever followed up on this.

im gonna put a paragraph in my wiki called "made you look" and then start saying see my wiki. wouldnt pretend its a strong read at this stage, but in a game of this size it seems unproductive to ignore reasonably useful tells. [theres also that this feels nothing like scumKuroi]

The only reason I'm referring you to my wiki page is to save myself the trouble of posting it here. It's been working for me well so far; I'm sticking to it like an ascetic.

Taking a look at the wiki:

I don't have any good ideas about how to play scum though. Usually I just like to find a nice dark place to lie in until I'm lynched or the game ends.

Which has some to do with my scumread, though not a lot.

ay quilford. tell me about another scumread of your's.

CES. I'm very leery about how he characterised T-Bone's posts with lots of mafia jargon without going into any specifics at all. If you're going to say 'in T-Bone's iso I see not just lurking but also an attempt to look pro-town' you really need to point out specific posts in which you see this and if you say 'the scum motivation for his posting seems the most obvious' you really need to explain what the motivation is.

Sigh. I never feel like I can read CES anyway so I still hope he does elaborate on his T-Bone post. I feel like people switch off to you when you vote them; this is what I was alluding to when I made my post #367 to Marquis.

But I like you and you're my equal-strongest Town read so I feel compelled to please you with a scumread hahaa

Anyway.

This feels pretty forced, even for so early on in the game.

Marquis I am extremely distressed that somehow I am a scumread of yours :/

Why?

I just can't even with this game rn

Why are all my townreads being morons?

And who were your townreads, other than gork? You haven't mentioned yet, so it's hard to follow your logic in a lot of posts this early, not just this one.

I mean in the last Fortnight, where Marquis won as scum, he basically invented a stupid posting schtick and stuck to it for the first 48 hours of the game so I think posting 'I was scum before the reroll' is well within his powers.

This is not to say that I think Marquis is scum though. In a stroke of delicious Quil-flavoured irony, he is at present one of my stronger townreads.

Which doesn't match up with your wiki, where you look for scumhunting. One look at Marquis' wiki, and you'd know he's done nothing to warrant a townread out of you, Quil.

Quilford since you;re here, who's town and who's scum?

very town:
gorkington
antihero

lean town:
marquis
t-bone

weak town:
bins
hiplop
johnnyfarrar
kuroiXHF
snarkysnowman

null:
ces
davsto
katsuki
the bulge
zmuffin

weak scum:
reck

Bad list, with no real positions other than calling obvtown obvtown. And you also give me the townread despite any scumhunting from me up to this point.

one of reck, the bulge, katsuki and snarkysnowman though i feel worst about reck, defs need meatier, scumhuntier posts out of him after #74 but he seems to be going through a rough patch irl so i don't know if we're gonna get them :/

You mention 74 a lot as a reason to scumread reck, even 800 posts later. That's some low hanging fruit right there.

I'm not gonna lie, I am totally fixated on the Nosferatu slot right now. Reck was playing very underwhelmingly before he replaced out and now his replacement has done nothing in two days except mount and dismount an attack on a player with the weakest of evidence. There are only four and a half days until deadline; why do we know literally nothing about what you think of the remaining 14 players?

Reck is not a good scumread and you haven't really explained that position.


This among other stuff makes Quil probably scum. It's weak, perhaps even weaker than me despite my having significantly less posts this game.

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There's a chunk of your "why", nosferatu. I may or may not get to more later? But my reads aren't random out of my ass or anything, I've read more than I've let on.

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Ugh. VOTE: PV since I probably won't be back before deadline and I'm more sure that hippy is town.

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Actually a little surprised that PV was scum, but hey, maybe my guess will be right.