The Third Fortnight (Game Over [Bonus Round])

[Gorkington]

no.
ive been putting off metadiving him because im stupid and have been getting burnt out hard after work every night this week.
i would currently lynch any of snarky/pere/hip and maybe even marquis.
and i hate saying the latter.
but hes been doing nothing and i really hated him coming in and asking why my townread of him had changed.

[Gorkington]

one way or another, im going to try to get a wagon going tonight.
if i cant muster up strength to give this game some love and affection, i'll probably just vote pere.

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using it on me makes no sense dav

fucking context holy shit

Clutters up thread, makes it easier for scum to hide.

this makes no fucking sense.

sorry dav.

Don't talk down to me, also.

dropped off face of earth

is active onsite

VOTE: tbone

and whos pushes this game have been good, quil?

Like can you sort that shit out pls if you're town

Terrible when backed into a wall

gonna take a break from this game. can't take this. Not too long, we need players in here who aren't me

people gave you space because you were complaining about being backed into a corner.
contributions since then include wagoning t-boneslot on basically the easiest reasoning ever and complaining.
man.
cant imagine why anyone would think you were coasting out your wagon fizzling out.
-.-

[Gorkington]

i dont blame anyone not having much fun from last 10-15 pages in this game. everyone is being pretty needlessly abrasive.

but i think its pretty lame to throw shit at me for still being suspicious of you when you havent done much since your wagon died.

[Gorkington]

and you have no worries about the same thing happening with hiplop?

Are you kidding?

I lurked my way out of the wagon? Seriously?

Are you reading the same thread

burp.

why is nos's posting terrible.

[Gorkington]

p sure hiplop is town

talkaboutitplease.q.q

[Gorkington]

when did i ever say i was sheeping davsto?
:/

[Gorkington]

That's not even remotely ideal scum strategy

implying ideal scum strategy is how scum actually plays.. whatever. i would be lying if i said that your last few posts arent making me feel doubtful about my read. but you are being fucking ridiculous.

p-edit: fucking ridiculous.

[Gorkington]

VOTE: pere

lets just get this over with.

[Gorkington]

I'm rather fond of you gorky

not honestly sure i believe you q.q

a few things about nos's catch-up have a layer that seems slightly town, i might elaborate tonight, but im also sour that i feel like 90% of people in this game arent explaining anything theyre doing so . i could really easily vote snarky as well.

[Gorkington]

can whatever is about to happen between dav and hiplop just.. not happen?

[Gorkington]

nah you fuck off bud.
youve been being real unpleasant this game.
chill the fuck out or go away or some shit because its cluttering up the thread with garbage.
and thats coming from the King of cluttering the thread up with garbage.

[Gorkington]

can we just lynch pere.

[Gorkington]

crying.

wake me up if you need me for a hammer.

im done.

[Gorkington]

i really hope hiplop is scum.

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do i get to be as fucking incredulous as youve been at me because you called me scum now?

[Gorkington]

right.

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I've never NOT seen snarky get mislynched.

what do you think snarky plays like if hes scum?

[Gorkington]

youre also yet to articulate anything on why nos is scummy.
not that im really hopeful.
that would be a lot to ask wouldnt it.
and yes this is me being a full on asshole because you brought me here.

[Gorkington]

i have a lot of townreads.
not that you would understand that context because you havent literally put any thought into anything in this game.

[Gorkington]

dav.
can we talk postgame?

[Gorkington]

vote: hiplop

choochoo.

[Gorkington]

invoking my credential as the guy who read snarky correctly in machina,

i don't think it's good to handwave that off as "the guy who always gets mislynched"

can you hit me in the face really hard with why?

[Gorkington]

still waiting for something on nos from hiplop.
describing his play as lurking when he has a catch-up is all kinds of what and the hissy fit he threw over people calling PV scum before eventually resigning to him being an okay lynch seems fake as fuck.

[Gorkington]

the hissy fit

he

hip threw over people calling PV scum before eventually resigning to him being an okay lynch seems fake as fuck.

[Gorkington]

you could always articulate thoughts on pere's latest posting.

[Gorkington]

no.
i guess i would just be happier if my options werent "try really hard, make case, probably get ignored" or "crapshoot pere because hes pere lol"

[Gorkington]

reading last fortnight was interesting in that hip calling himself obvtown seems pretty par for the course, but he was also a lot less awful to play with back then.
not really sure what to make of it.

is kind of hilarious for him to imply that he was voted because he voted t-bone when he let go of that read after like ten posts in his iso though.

[Gorkington]

the only coherent thing im getting out of metadiving hiplop is that i suspect that him being over the top ridiculous when being run up is more likely to scum from scumhip than townhip.

[Gorkington]

marquis, if youre town.
please.
catch-up and make some coherent points on several people please.

[Gorkington]

things that i want today:

probably hiplop roped [but after other things on this list]
snarky to do something please.
anti to make a case on snarky.
marquis to be here and be town please.
nosferatu to finish catching up and bring something to gamestate again.
johnny to post a gif for my sanity
pere to do something that isnt just calling katsuki scum because i dont know how he expects that to happen with this little of time left if it isnt just mindless shit to deter a wagon on him.

[Gorkington]

i'll be the stable likeable person.

[Gorkington]

is it in quotation marks because it barely counts as a metadive? or because you think i didnt do it?
;D

[Gorkington]

if your goal is to sheep someone who's really confident right now, youre probably off the mark with bandwagoning behind me for that reason johnny.
its a lot closer to PoE/wanting to believe that townhip wouldnt play this way than i would like.
you are probably the best part of this game right now for me q.q

[Gorkington]

I made points against nos

that hes a lurker who posted a catch-up, has posted real reads, replaced into a 60 page game and has given reasons for lack of activity for the last 24 hours?
yeah.
feelin' it.

[Gorkington]

Gork y cmon man. What have I said to you that's all that bad? The things you've said to me I think are much worse

youve condescended at me pretty much all game.
like.
non-stop.
ive tried being diplomatic.
tried being reasonable with you.
and you threw shit in my face, in spite of me actively giving you the space you wanted.

yeah.
im being a dick now.
its what happens when you snark at someone for a week straight.

[Gorkington]

when people ask you questions you dont just say "fuck you and your dumb questions get better you scrub" and not expect someone to be frustrated with you.

[Gorkington]

Spoiler:

look at how awkward those gorkington posts are. Seriously seems on edge and fabricated

are you seriously upset about

look at how awkward those gorkington posts are. Seriously seems on edge and fabricated

STILL?

lol

now can you quit it cheet? this is NOT helpful

I'm pretty blatantly town, cheet.

and WHO GIVES A SHIT

honestly

maybe if there was a case on that wasn't "he disagrees on why quilford scumreads him~!~!~"

literally like 10 pages of wasted space

further hurts town b/c apathy (a problem we are ALREADY STRUGGLING WITH IN THIS GAME) and lets scum hide.

You are being not helpful. Also needlessly bitchy. Can we stop and ACTUALLY FIND SCUM? fuck

we get it. You say that like 1/3 of your posts

I suck at defneding myself against nothing? Not a good mafia quality.

You're sleeping a overconfident childish case cheet

Like, I've basically guaranteed you and DAV accusing me like impulsive monkeys.

man yeah im having a consistently positive set of interactions with you all game.
i got pissed at one point.
and ive been bitchy.
but youve been consistently acting like youre better than interacting with people who are scumreading you and implying that dav and i are terrible fucking people for asking you questions this game.
those interactions would have ended pages and pages ago if you hadnt been so pointlessly above it all and condescending about it all at once.

like even with the meta.
im fucking clearly saying that i get a slight feeling about your meta that i dont feel particularly confident about.
and you act like im hardpushing you for it and that im a fucking moron for doing so.

i read six of your games.
the towngames where you got run up you did not do anything like youve done this game.

the scumgames you did to some extent.

do i feel good about it?
not really.
if i did i would have linked games and examples.

its this constant rhetoric. this constant "fuck you and your dumb read on me"-attitude that i want to believe is just scum rhetoric.

[Gorkington]

amazing.

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no.

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see how fun it is when i play your game.

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and... you know... LURKING WORKED.

he lurked really hard in both of the games ive played with him and he was town in both.
reading his ISO over, the weird jump from voting hiplop to calling him town seems almost too weird to be scum? why flipflop on hiplop without explaining it unless hip is his scummate? and to that end i guess i just feel like looking for associations between players in this game is bound to turn up way more in terms of false leads than anything, yknow?
sorry i havent been around to argue this before now. :/

[Gorkington]

what points

i think johnny's referring to the stirring-up-shit-then-fleeing strategy that people think hiplop might be attempting if he's scum.

have you ever played with hiplop before, muffin?

[Gorkington]

also, would you mind giving me your thoughts on hippy's pushes in general this game?
specifically, the kind of sweeping generalizations he made early game about CES/quil that he himself admitted were exaggerated. do you think that exaggeration is null/town/scum?
and him calling nosferatu a lurker as basis for lynching him.

and him getting all worked up about people/[or more specifically me] calling snarky/pere highest on my scumlist when he'd been voting t-bone before he moved on to nosferatu and when hes expressly indicated that hes pretty fine with lynching either of them now.

and before hiplop shits all over my face for even bringing up these points, i just want to see what muffin thinks of them, im not pushing a case here.

[Gorkington]

shhhhhhh.

[Gorkington]

can you refer me to games where you feel like hip has given you that expectation?

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if youre not willing to engage me, im going to read you through other people because thats what this game has become.
stop throwing this stupid-ass rhetoric at me.
its not going to ever convince me of anything in any game ever.

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are you going to talk about why nosferatu is a lurker now?
because thats still a thing.

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like, i literally said "hip dont fucking bother me while i try to talk this out"
and you literally do it anyway.
are you trolling?
is that what this is?

[Gorkington]

im trying to pick at my own read and muffin's read/perspective on hiplop.
though im getting to the point where i just will vote anyone in marquis, snarky, pere because this game needs to end before i lose my fucking mind.

[Gorkington]

who's scum then johnny?

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can you talk about the nosferatu/quilford reads?

[Gorkington]

a deficit of charisma even more pronounced than the one I have as town

nerd.
your towngame is pretty great from what ive seen.
calling yourself charismatic-deficient is pretty silly.

[Gorkington]

I can send my shot toward quil or Nos, who seem his most likely partners in my head.

can you talk about why they seem like his partners to you?
is the nos-is-lurking shit just distancing then?

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like, either we find some way to unite everyone behind a read that everyone feels good about or we're going to have to condense onto something we dont like.
at some point you either need to dig in your heels and try to convince people of something/have a real dialogue or the game is going to end with a flat rush-compromise.

im pretty confident this is heading towards the latter.

[Gorkington]

okay, so lets talk about nosferatu for a minute.

in isolation, ignoring potential partner connections, does his catch-up look like scum or no?

[Gorkington]

oh and bins if you could talk about why marquis is so high on your readslist i would appreciate you a lot as a person right now.

[Gorkington]

im gonna wait to hear mina confirm all of this before i believe it.

[Gorkington]

we get minimum 24 hours even if we go to deadline.
is that not enough for you?

[Gorkington]

Gork vs hip looks a lot like me vs mollie in NY192 so imma slap TvT on that shit.

talk more.
about this.

[Gorkington]

you were scumreading both hiplop and i before you said this to some degree.
is one comparable event in one mafia game really realistic justification to townbin someone? especially since you at least havent played with me before.
why is your experience with mollie that one time a metric worth using on two totally different players?

[Gorkington]

why are people so hard to follow.

okay.

why is it not TvS.

[Gorkington]

enough rhetoric please.
if you want to dismantle/start wagons at this point you have to

EXPLAIN WHY.

[Gorkington]

we have 12 hours.
no wagon is going to start because someone feels like it.
and no wagon is going to stop because someone says its lame.

[Gorkington]

and... you know... LURKING WORKED.

he lurked really hard in both of the games ive played with him and he was town in both.
reading his ISO over, the weird jump from voting hiplop to calling him town seems almost too weird to be scum? why flipflop on hiplop without explaining it unless hip is his scummate? and to that end i guess i just feel like looking for associations between players in this game is bound to turn up way more in terms of false leads than anything, yknow?
sorry i havent been around to argue this before now. :/

[Gorkington]

lol.

[Gorkington]

I don't bend my game philosophy for their bad questions.

Wouldn't give in as either alignment.

yeah man okay.

[Gorkington]

we get it. You say that like 1/3 of your posts

i called you a shitty person for this.
what the fuck are you on about.

[Gorkington]

whatever.
if youre town then gripe at me all you want postgame.

vote: peregrine

i cant imagine a wagon that isnt this taking off.
get it over with and get to the crapshoot.

[Gorkington]

you really did not come across as "funny haha cheet im just kidding around" there at all.
if that was your intention, then sorry, but you more came across as a dick being like "youre being really annoying right now".

[Gorkington]

:/
it really does not read as that.
at all.

we can talk about this postgame.

[Gorkington]

bins doesnt seem like scum at all?
how in the world did you get towntowntown from t-bone?

[Gorkington]

look i get that people have their pet project scumreads.
but if youre lurking, you dont get to drive the game, especially if you cant even explain why you think someone is scummy in terms that literally anyone can process.

[Gorkington]

if hip flees.
im gonna fucking flip a table.
but this is at least almost over.

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lol.

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hahahahaha

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i dont feel bad about my reads at all if its marquis/PV.

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they were alternating.