Legends of the Hidden Speakeasy--[Game Over]

[Titus]

TOWN

7. DrippingGoofball
8. Majiffy
5. Spiffeh
6. Hiplop
3. Dramonic

SCUM 2/3

1. UpTooLate
2. BBMolla
4. Titus

It's very clear to me

The scum is in a vise, the townies have towned hard

You're missing a couple townies and cleared someone you likely should not have. One can be a meh, he can be the first lynch out of your townie list.

[Titus]

Titus will spend all night plotting something to save her buddy UTL

She has nothing now

We have to wait until tomorrow

I have zero intention of saving UTL. I'm wanting to rope their partner.

Does that scare you?

[Titus]

VOTE: UTL

Ok, I'm reading to end the day.

I intend on challenging DGB tomorrow.

[Titus]

*reading = ready

I've got DnD for this evening.

I'll be back tomorrow morning.

[Titus]

if you do that you're getting lynched

Then I'd die highlighting the scum.

[Titus]

It still holds.

Shaziro was town... which leaves Spiffeh and UTL as scum.

My townread on Spiffeh is unadulterable.

That leaves UTL must be scum.

Well, isn't that mighty convenient for you.

What is it? Bus the fuck out of UTL. Mislynch me. Mislynch Hippy for tunnelling on me. Mislynch Dram for tunnelling on you. Mislynch Spiffeh on the grounds that RJ just bussed everyone arguing RC had more influence on the slot. Lynch Molla for "lurking". Hmm I think that's enough to get you to endgame right?

[Titus]

who is scum in your head titus

Did that last post not make it clear?

[Titus]

you said mislynch like 4 times

Yes.

DGB appears to be shitting bricks about any investigation on this lynch. Why is that?

[Titus]

That's L minus 1

[Titus]

VOTE: hiplop

Dram, Spiffeh is damn near obvtown.

DGB is damn near obvious scum.

Let's lynch the null who is absolutely just hellbent on tunneling town for no reason.

[Titus]

It's Hippie DGB.

Sorry Dram. Cmon man. Spiffeh isn't scum.

[Titus]

Hammer me DGB. This game was never meant as a large.

Dram, leave Spiffeh the fuck alone and get DGB/Hiplop tomorrow. Both of you. Please.

You want to talk about Hiding. Hippie hasn't commented on a single fucking lynch. He's just yelled I'm scum over and over.

[Titus]

So I guess you ARE going back on your words heh?
Kinda like your buddy!

EDIT: Your theory is that RJ decided to randomly bus on D1?

really

It's a hydra with RADIANT COWBELLS too.

[Titus]

RC never posted, I'm pretty sure that was established already.

Yeah in the main thread.

He was active in our hydra PT and just told me to keep him updated.

It takes all of two seconds to tell Jeanne "If you think you're in trouble, bus."

[Titus]

What hydra PT?

Radiant Moonlight. We were hydra partners in a finished game at the same time.

[Titus]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=66797

@Spiffeh, vote Hippy then.

[Titus]

Well that's all the proof I can give. I'm not outing a hydra PT for this. RC and I made decisions together and you can see his posting. (Most of what was signed as Titus was him).

*shrug*

He just wasn't posting here.

[Titus]

hiplop is never getting lynched regardless of his alignment

I really don't feel like putting more effort into this game when one member of my town bloc is tunneling me and the other is town reading my biggest scum read for no fucking reason

Which in turn is making me pissed off at the former and paranoid of the latter

And on top of that I've been like dead wrong on a lot of my reads and let obvtown people die because I thought the game was on lock (MathBlade) which was stupid and it's just driving me crazy

So yeah I just want to turbo the rest of the game but I doubt we'll get everyone on at the same time to do that

Like at this point I kinda wanna bow out just to see who the scum are because I really just don't fucking know anymore

Yeah, if you want to bow out, why not sheep me? Or are you just wanting to make sure that you don't have to go against hiplop?

[Titus]

It's Hippie DGB.

Sorry Dram. Cmon man. Spiffeh isn't scum.

You're wrong about me

If you were to name a town read that may be scum who would that be?

If I went to a backup, it'd be Molla.

Mollie once did tell me, whoever avoids the shitstorms is scum.

[Titus]

DGB who do you think the remaining scum are?

UTL's town flip upended everything.

I'm wiping the slate clean

I am asking everyone questions

We'll figure it out

Let's not do anything impulsive and probe deep

I'm fine with resetting with you. Your push on UTL looked terrible but you taking ownership of that and reaching out to me kinda makes me think that I can do the same. Mollie's sub out did look townie. It was you going off the rails and being hyper defensive that pinged me as scum.

Anytime I mentioned you, you'd get all defensive.

[Titus]

Mollie once did tell me, whoever avoids the shitstorms is scum.

And who among the living has done this the most? Please explain.

Hiplop - Avoided commenting on like 90% of the wagons or analysis on players. says I'm scum on loop.
Spiffeh - Had a large lurk session for awhile, but seems to be IRL motivated
Molla - AtEs but hasn't pushed his own theories but BBMolla has never been a case guy so...

That's my thoughts there.

[Titus]

Mollie once did tell me, whoever avoids the shitstorms is scum.

And who among the living has done this the most? Please explain.

Hiplop - Avoided commenting on like 90% of the wagons or analysis on players. says I'm scum on loop.

Spiffeh - Had a large lurk session for awhile, but seems to be IRL motivated

Molla - AtEs but hasn't pushed his own theories but BBMolla has never been a case guy so...

That's my thoughts there.

He posted pretty much every day during that period, just not in here.

Which games did he post in and lurk here? (Can't say anything about the quality but if he posted that should be easy to see.)

[Titus]

What about Spiffeh/Hiplop? (Pending Dram's results)

[Titus]

... So RJ, on Day 1, decided to challenge both her buddies, forcing scum died right off the bat is your new theory?
WHERE DO YOU GET THESE IDEAS GIRL?

NY 192.

It's not a new theory btw.

[Titus]

NY192 doesn't force the lynch in a limited pool.

NY192 is exactly RC trying to force the lynch between him and his scumpartner that game to allow his scumpartner to coast. I know because his scumpartner was me.

[Titus]

Spiffeh's posts read sooooooooooooooooo town

Am I crazy?

My biggest point is Spiffeh shows up just when his team is challenged and hard defends hiplop despite everything I'm saying is true.

[Titus]

I don't know, the fact that every other post she changes her read on me, That she has CONSTANTLY discredited my scumread on her trying to paint it as if I'm some sort of bully, her pushing shaz and then acting as if she had nothing to do with it, the seemingly constant attempt to stop any town block from forming. The weird fucking reads on people like Jiffy. Jiffy pushed her sister who she was "100% sure was town" and then said Jiffy is "IC Levels town" for it.

Shes scum and honestly playing a really fucking good game.

Well, duh on discrediting the scumread. It's wrong.
Second, you are tunnelling and your biggest reason is Titus is objecting to you acting like this in every game.
You didn't actually scumhunt during any of the past 3-4 challenges and just whined I wasn't in them.

And yup, I did say Jiffy is IC levels of town for his push on Math. I stand by that. Math and I drive people that crazy. I said it like 100000 times when Jiffy challenged Math.

[Titus]

You were tunnelling me hard core before Jiffy challenged Math though. You're just reaching to try and justify you're scumread and then falling back on Titus is good at scum guyz.

[Titus]

No. You decide you're tunnelling me every time in the pregame. That's why you have a vendetta if you're town. Just occasionally you happen to be right. Most likely, you're scum trying to capitalize on you always tunnelling me.

Where's the last bit of actual attempting to solve the game you've done?

Nope. Can't find it. Nothing where you try to actually determine alignment.

[Titus]

No. You decide you're tunnelling me every time in the pregame. That's why you have a vendetta if you're town. Just occasionally you happen to be right. Most likely, you're scum trying to capitalize on you always tunnelling me.

honestly fuck you. Now I have a problem with you

Yeah, so much easier to cast drama than to case me or actually show where you scumhunted? Am I right?

You have a problem with me calling you out for your shit. Good. You should as either alignment. I am sick and tired of attitudes like yours. Thinking they can tunnel for half the game and not scumhunt.


@Jiffy, Vote Hiplop. That's what you need to read.

[Titus]

Out of game, I still think you're a good person Hiplop. Just a shame you drew scum and play like this.

[Titus]

Titus give me a case in one post and I'll read it.


Same for you Hiplop

RC hydra busses their buddies for cred.
Hiplop busses back.
Coasts for the rest of the game.
Tunnels on me for no reason and tries to stir up drama when called on it.
Hiplop has done zero interrogation or gamesolving at all FMPOV.

He resorts to a circular argument on where he scumhunted by claiming he caught me.

His defense to everything is Titus is scum shade.

[Titus]

who the fuck townreads snarkysnowman

Wait someone was townreading Snarky?

Machina Mafia.

Don't act like I was the only one. He was never challenged either.

[Titus]

I'll look at D2 later. Ori will have y'all talk to Hippy. That way he cannot engage in circular shit.

[Titus]

Good Jiffy. If you aren't going to listen to your townread, lynch me so I don't have to watch or contribute to you fuckers throwing the game. I am not going to self vote (why make it easy on scum) but I don't care.

Me flipping gives half the game a wakeupcall.

[Titus]

fucking finally.

Yeah, you got two people to vote with you when you had to hijack the game to get me challenged.

Tell me, are you ever going to answer your reads if I am town, or more circular answers? You're going to have to answer eventually. Might as well get a jump.

[Titus]

Turtles

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Otters

Vote Count 2.04

Postie (L-5): Dramonic Dwlee99, Majiffy
Dramonic (L-1): Pirate mollie Shaziro, UpTooLate, BBMolla, Postie, Hiplop, Snarkysnowman,
Snarkysnowman (L-9):
Not Voting (7): Spiffeh, Clumsy , Nosferatu, Aristophanes, itlepip,

Turtles

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Otters

Vote Count 2.05

Postie (L-7): Dramonic Dwlee99
Dramonic (L-4): Shaziro, UpTooLate, Postie, Hiplop, Snarkysnowman
Snarkysnowman (L-5): Titus, itlepip, Majiffy, BBMolla

Not Voting (4): Spiffeh, Clumsy , Nosferatu, Pirate mollie

Mod notes: Searching for replacement for Dwlee99
UpTooLate is V/LA this weekend

Hey, Look at this. Me leading a Snarky counter to Dram.

Look who stayed on Dram. Postie and Hippy.
Dram and Dwlee posted Postie. Also scum.

Spiffeh Clumsy Nos and DGB slot abstained. Only Spiffeh and DGB could be scum there.

[Titus]

The fact that you think dram could possibly be scum boggles my mind

I actually agree with this.

The only way Dram is scum is if Dram decided pregame he was only going to bus. Don't see that happening.

[Titus]

The fact that you think dram could possibly be scum boggles my mind

Uh you mean skirting by on having hammering votes on wagons that were clearly going to happen anyway?
And doing absolutely nothing else but throwing shade, tunneling Mollieslot DESPITE *REPEATED* shouty assertions that she's town by me, someone Dram is townreading?
And otherwise just contributing nothing but snark?


Yeah that's super town.

Yeah, pretty much destroyed that belief two posts up Jiffy. Dram pushed Postie hard D2. He was the counterwagon to two scum and was quickly put up to L minus 1. Unless you think D2 was scum challenging themselves, Dram is town.

[Titus]

So can we please lynch Hiplop scum? K thx.

[Titus]

This is such a fucking stupid group to lynch from God damnit Dram

Oh and here's Molla townreading Snarky when he's a wagon choice.

Who townreads Snarky, am I right?

I probably should reconsider my reads on Hippy and Spiffeh with this post here (because Molla felt trapped with two scum and Dram as his choices). But I don't think scum bitch about a challenge with this much scum in it.

[Titus]

@Jiffy, Just like Math was right?

I will figure this shit out.

I know you and Dram are town. You two work together and decide this lync. If you decide that I am not worthy to continue on, fine. Just fucking work together.

DGB is also being really townie too.

[Titus]

@Majiffy, I get your point. Mollie was town but for the inconsistent messages she was giving people. DGB was town but for being weird when I scumhunted her. The recent posts are townie.

Please don't act like I cannot see and observe things. Thanks.

Dram town, DGB town, you town. Do you agree on that Jiffy? Can that be the endgame block?

[Titus]

Jiffy, fine then. We got all day to talk on Dram.

Do you really think a scumteam with Snarky, Postie and Dram elects to go all in on lynching Dram but never finishes the job?

[Titus]

Jiffy, fine then. We got all day to talk on Dram.

Do you really think a scumteam with Snarky, Postie and Dram elects to go all in on lynching Dram but never finishes the job?

Idk I mean what else can they do

Snarky and Postie were both scummier than Dram so

So they all elected to bus the towniest looking scum who is the best scumplayer on their team because....

[Titus]

Oh my gawd =_=

Dram, why is DGB scum? Let's hash this out.

Then we all lynch hippy and we get an actual town block off into the sunset.

[Titus]

Spiffeh show me where Hippy has tried to solve this game. Tunnelling on me doesn't count.

Where is hippy declaring his town block? He is not. Where is hippy trying to set his townreads right (but for his tunnel)? He is not.

[Titus]

Hey dram. If Spiffeh's distancing from his own reads, it suggests he doesn't believe in them. You know who roes believe in her reads? This woman.

Hiplop/Spiffeh/mola (long shot on the end)

That's scum.

[Titus]

Hey dram. If Spiffeh's distancing from his own reads, it suggests he doesn't believe in them. You know who roes believe in her reads? This woman.

Hiplop/Spiffeh/mola (long shot on the end)

That's scum.

You know who doesn't believe in your reads?
This owl.

I can see that. You want to discuss your DGB read, or shall I get my useful anatomy piece.

[Titus]

Jiffy's theory is that I am culling my weak buddies because they are holding me down.
Or something.
It's pretty rad tbh.

We have the problem that my number 2 townread is voting my number 1 townread here.
This bloc is not working at all.

EDIT: I am not lynching the crux of my townblock. DGB is scum because she is constantly backpedaling and dropping things all over the thread. She has YET to address why she suddenly disregards her own thought process to keep spiff alive. She literally went "woops! Gotta reevaluate" and then didn't.
And Mollie is scum because of plenty of reasons I pointed out before, along with walls upon walls of fake AtE and "kill me but I won't self-vote" garbage.
Majiffy is adamant that the slot is town which is annoying as fuck, the same way hiplop is adamant(ish) that spiffeh is town.

I swear my townbloc are clowns.

Mollie can be legit frustrated and want out. No one can be nightkilled. The conclusion Mollie's AtE is faked is circular reasoning.

Why is DGB Mollie scum?

Why does Mollie abandon her meta? Why does she unvote you atL minus 1 when you're usually pretty damn good as town?

[Titus]

When it applies yes.

Your logic is....

DGB/Mollie is scum.
They are scum because they faked their AtE.
They faked their AtE because they are scum.
Therefore, they are scum.

[Titus]

Hiplop is scum
He is scum because he is tunneling you
He is tunneling you because he is scum
Therefore, he is scum.

Look, I can spout bullshit too!

You can but that is not my logic chain.

Hiplop is tunnelling me.
Hiplop refuses to justify that tunnel.
When called on it, hiplop causes drama.
Hiplop refuses to try and work with townreads.
The refusal to work with townreads and causing drama are anti-town behaviors.

Therefore, hiplop is anti-town or scum.

Hiplop is not scumhunting.

Anti-town or scum + no scumhunting.

That equals hiplop scum.

[Titus]

Ok, name Hippy's final 3.

*reaches for placebo pills labeled opiates*

[Titus]

Saying someone is obvtown does not mean they are your final three pick. You're doing calisthenics but I bet you're in awesome shape.

[Titus]

He has voiced interest in lynching you, molla, dgb and jiffy.

Sure. I've expressed interest in lynching DGB in the past too.
Dram, you're a townbeard. Stop. Wake up please.

[Titus]

@dgb, hey, can you color in all the VCs on Day 2? I told myself no VCA but it is hella hard to resist.
Majiffy was hard tunnelling Math.

You also had a typo. Pip was my hood mate, not Math.

[Titus]

Spoiler: For DGB

Foxes

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Turtles

Vote Count 2.01

Postie (L-6): Hiplop, Dramonic
Dramonic (L-6): Pirate mollie Shaziro,
Snarkysnowman (L-8):

Not Voting (11): Postie, Spiffeh, Clumsy , Snarkysnowman, Nosferatu, Aristophanes, itlepip, Axxle, UpTooLate, Dwlee99, Majiffy

Turtles

vs

Otters

Vote Count 2.02

Postie (L-7): Dramonic
Dramonic (L-5): Pirate mollie Shaziro, UpTooLate,
Snarkysnowman (L-7): Majiffy
Not Voting (11): Postie, Spiffeh, Clumsy , Snarkysnowman, Nosferatu, Aristophanes, itlepip, BBMolla, Hiplop,Dwlee99,

Turtles

vs

Otters

Vote Count 2.03

Postie (L-5): Dramonic Dwlee99, Majiffy
Dramonic (L-3): Pirate mollie Shaziro, UpTooLate, BBMolla, Postie,
Snarkysnowman (L-9):
Not Voting (7): Spiffeh, Clumsy , Snarkysnowman, Nosferatu, Aristophanes, itlepip, Hiplop,

Turtles

vs

Otters

Vote Count 2.04

Postie (L-5): Dramonic Dwlee99, Majiffy
Dramonic (L-1): Pirate mollie Shaziro, UpTooLate, BBMolla, Postie, Hiplop, Snarkysnowman,
Snarkysnowman (L-9):
Not Voting (7): Spiffeh, Clumsy , Nosferatu, Aristophanes, itlepip,

Turtles

vs

Otters

Vote Count 2.05

Postie (L-7): Dramonic Dwlee99
Dramonic (L-4): Shaziro, UpTooLate, Postie, Hiplop, Snarkysnowman
Snarkysnowman (L-5): Titus, itlepip, Majiffy, BBMolla

Not Voting (4): Spiffeh, Clumsy , Nosferatu, Pirate mollie

Mod notes: Searching for replacement for Dwlee99
UpTooLate is V/LA this weekend

Turtles

vs

Otters

Vote Count 2.06

Postie (L-7): Dramonic Dwlee99
Dramonic (L-3): Shaziro, UpTooLate, Postie, Hiplop, Snarkysnowman Pirate mollie
Snarkysnowman (L-6): itlepip, Majiffy, BBMolla

Not Voting (4): Spiffeh, Clumsy , Nosferatu, Titus,

Mod notes: Searching for replacement for Dwlee99
UpTooLate is V/LA this weekend

Turtles

vs

Otters

Vote Count 2.07

Postie (L-6): Dramonic Dwlee99, Hiplop,
Dramonic (L-4): Shaziro, UpTooLate, Postie, Snarkysnowman Pirate mollie
Snarkysnowman (L-6): itlepip, Majiffy, BBMolla

Not Voting (4): Spiffeh, Clumsy , Nosferatu, Titus,

Mod notes: Searching for replacement for Dwlee99
UpTooLate is V/LA this weekend

Turtles

vs

Otters

Vote Count 2.08

Postie (L-0): Dramonic Dwlee99, Hiplop, Majiffy, Spiffeh, Shaziro, Pirate mollie Titus

Dramonic (L-5): UpTooLate, Postie, Snarkysnowman
Snarkysnowman (L-6): itlepip, BBMolla

Not Voting (2): Clumsy , Nosferatu

Mod notes: Searching for replacement for Dwlee99
UpTooLate is V/LA this weekend

Postie was Lynched, They were a

Popularity Seeker.

No Active Challenges

Side Note: I realize I was fucking up VCs by putting in "9 to lynch" this was an error it was 8 to lynch with 15 alive. I apologize to anyone who may have been confused.

[Titus]

...
Girl...
I've called Hippo obvtown SEVERAL times :/

Thanks I don't see straight anymore LOL

He also said Spiffeh was scummy for posting elsewhere but not here, unless my memory failed. Now Spiffeh is top three.

[Titus]

Dram is like 100% CONFBIAS mode and it is annoying atm. Everything centers on DGB scum and hippy town and those are both bad reads.

[Titus]

I was talking Spiffeh during that convo. *jumps back*

[Titus]

Mollie once did tell me, whoever avoids the shitstorms is scum.

And who among the living has done this the most? Please explain.

Hiplop - Avoided commenting on like 90% of the wagons or analysis on players. says I'm scum on loop.

Spiffeh - Had a large lurk session for awhile, but seems to be IRL motivated

Molla - AtEs but hasn't pushed his own theories but BBMolla has never been a case guy so...

That's my thoughts there.

He posted pretty much every day during that period, just not in here.

Which games did he post in and lurk here? (Can't say anything about the quality but if he posted that should be easy to see.)

[Titus]

Yeah that doesn't look like my memory...

[Titus]

@DGB: Because on my list of scum to town, that's where she sits? Because I have a stronger townread on molla, hippo and jiffy?
That's a silly question.

EDIT: PYP6, Summer Waltz (I think), something survivoresque?
I just checked his post history and that time hole here is filled with other stuff.

Really?

[Titus]

Great. What is your townblock then Hippy?

[Titus]

I'm perfectly fine with a Molla lynch. He's one of my possible scum suspects.

@Spiffeh, you didn't have much motivation to begin with.

@hippy, keep it not personal please. Try to be rational here.

[Titus]

titus will vote you. She scumread mollie.

Dram scumreads you. Whoever is scum will vote you

That means deadDGB.

Lynching me is a gamethrow because dram will vote you. DO YOU NOT REALIZE THIS. DGB, if you're town, voting me is a literal fucking gamethrow

In 3p lylo please don't paint me as some person who never reconsiders anything. I'm not a puppy dog to be bought and sold ty.

[Titus]

@hippy, keep it not personal please. Try to be rational here.

... honestly? ALL FUCKING GAME I have told you I have NOTHING FUCKING PERSONAL AGAINST YOU. You keep bringing it up. Now, you fuckign say this? Get out of here.

Really, like every post is how I am a piece of shit.

Sorry you had a bad night, but I am not your punching bag.

[Titus]

Titus would you be OK with your own lynch if it objectively improved the town's chances of winning?

Yup. Said as much.

You jiffy and dram need to work together though.

I'm not about to help with it though.

[Titus]

Like I'm literally not even sold on Titus being scum

I agree with hippy that scum are in the pool of {Molla, Majiffy, Titus}

But lynching hiplop means scum can "reevaluate" and sheep dram on his blind tunnel of us and it's game over

Yeah, and here's fear mongerring defense from Spiffeh.

[Titus]

Titus' entire game can be summed up by dismantling the

town block

She pushed FUCKING CLUMSY. Clumsy was the most obvious town to ever exist. And he got lynched because of titus.

ebwop

No, my game is summarized by making the right one, with the right players.

[Titus]

whos my scum partner if not spiffeh titus

Molla said as much.

[Titus]

Titus would you be OK with your own lynch if it objectively improved the town's chances of winning?

Yup. Said as much.

You jiffy and dram need to work together though.

I'm not about to help with it though.

I think we might have to

I'm afraid today's challenge is all townies

Could it be

jiffy/molla??????????????????????????????????????

No. Jiffy is town. Math rage is real.

It's in Hippy Spiffeh Molla.

[Titus]

No, my game is summarized by making the right one, with the right players.

by lynching fucking obvtown clumsy?

Clumsy was town, he was never obvtown to me. Sorry.

People who misrep my posts or miscomprehend them and fail to own it (so it resembles a misrep) will never be obvtown.

[Titus]

Like I'm literally not even sold on Titus being scum

I agree with hippy that scum are in the pool of {Molla, Majiffy, Titus}

But lynching hiplop means scum can "reevaluate" and sheep dram on his blind tunnel of us and it's game over

Yeah, and here's fear mongerring defense from Spiffeh.

WHAT DOES THIS EVEN FUCKING MEAN????

I have made my position on this extremely clear, you're just throwing shit and hoping something sticks

Your pivot to scum reading me makes no sense

Your position is that Hippy is your buddy and you'll paint THE WORLD WILL END IF WE LYNCH HIPPIE posting.

[Titus]

@hiplop, willing to lynch a townread to draw heat away from yourself? Ew.

Demanding consistency between 1000 posts? Ew.

@spiffeh, attempts to point an RC directed bus as Flail.

[Titus]

I was voting scum. Hippy tried to lynch town DGB.

[Titus]

I hope I don't regret this.

You will.

[Titus]

Keeping fingers crossed

Very unhappy molla wasn't challenged

No shit. Hippy and his bullshit ensured that.

[Titus]

Titus > Molla > Majiffy wins us the game so you have nothing to worry about

Except for Majiffy and I are town.

That lynch order might win you and hippy the game.

[Titus]

I was voting scum. Hippy tried to lynch town DGB.

that is false holy fuck

You deny voting Dram n2 while I created the SS counterwagon?

[Titus]

You deny voting Dram n2 while I created the SS counterwagon?

...I was the first person to call out postie scum. Talked about it for a while, dram challenged.

I didn't like the challenge. Pushed that for a little bit but was always pretty fucking focussed on postie scum

You were hard defending her and then hammered her despite having her as a high townread.

I don't hammer my high townreads. When I voted Postie, they weren't.

When I came in, I saw scum. I pushed scum. I lynched scum.

You're seriously arguing that I bussed rather than take out Dram?

[Titus]

I left one scum to vote another.

Hippy stuck to a mislynch until he saw Dram was not getting lynched...because of me.

[Titus]

this game was fucking awesome

Fuck you.

[Titus]

dram your endgame wasn't much better

No yeah I fully accept this loss and take a lot of the blame for it

I think this was more scum outplaying than town sucking though

Scum played fantastically gj guys

Majiffy played great.

Hiplop just attacked me and was carried by Jiffy and dumb town.

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@DGB, Sorry for not townreading you sooner. You just kept interfering when I would try to get other thoughts on you.

Like when I asked for room, I was seeing how far down the rabbit hole Dram was. He was gone beyond hope.

Then, I had to see if I was right.

That UTL thing looked like a bus. The apology did wonders.

[Titus]

Yeah no this game was doomed

EDIT: Good job on your persecution complex falling on scum for a change.

This game was doomed by you thinking you didn't need to listen or engage. I highlighted why your reads were bad but you ignored it because it was me talking.

You quick voted in lylo.

I have my flaws. I work on them. I cannot persuade a brick wall.

[Titus]

I confirmed Hiplop based on expecting jeanne to be completely unable to come up with a bus plan.
To be fair, I wasn't entirely wrong

Again, I told you it wasn't Jeanne's idea.

[Titus]

This game was doomed by you thinking you didn't need to listen or engage. I highlighted why your reads were bad but you ignored it because it was me talking.

you wouldn't have lynched jiffy, spiffy wouldn't lynch me, dram wouldn't lynch either.

Don't get mad at dram

I would have reached all universal townreads and reset after Spiffeh and Molla flipped.

[Titus]

I confirmed Hiplop based on expecting jeanne to be completely unable to come up with a bus plan.
To be fair, I wasn't entirely wrong

Again, I told you it wasn't Jeanne's idea.

it was. you were wrong. She got mad that I pushed her in thread. She wanted to see me get lynched. She was mad at me

Jeanne gets mad but RC cleared that.

[Titus]

Radiant Jeanne is a hydra of RC and Jeanne.

So yes he was.

RC is a bus man.

[Titus]

I honestly thought Dramonic, DrippingGoofball, and Titus had overall the best reads (each had holes in them but in general sense if they worked together I thought this game would swing back to towns favor).

Yeah we tried.

I don't think anyone doubts that.

[Titus]

@Titus Radiant literally never posted in the game, neither in the PTs, and only talked in the dead thread asking "WTF happened?"

They would have pmmed pregame. RC says bus. That bus, although it had Jeanne's post, is RC's influence.

No one believed it but I know those two.

[Titus]

OH!
Go me lol

On a more serious note, Spiff and I were both in the deep end in there. Me for SpiffGB, him for Shazmolla.

Well I was in the deep end too on Jiffy.

(Hugs)

[Titus]

@Pirate mollie, not for a year or two at least.

I really tried reaching out to you, but I kept getting mixed messages.

Mollie: Don't tunnel so hard and let others speak.
Titus stops tunnelling.
Mollie: Titus isn't tunneling why?
Titus: Cause you told me not to...
Mollie: It's extreme buddying
Titus: Where is a place I can run into? Wouldn't Mollie expect change?

That's how I felt with you.

[Titus]

@Pirate mollie, not for a year or two at least.

I really tried reaching out to you, but I kept getting mixed messages.

Mollie: Don't tunnel so hard and let others speak.
Titus stops tunnelling.
Mollie: Titus isn't tunneling why?
Titus: Cause you told me not to...
Mollie: It's extreme buddying
Titus: Where is a place I can run into? Wouldn't Mollie expect change?

That's how I felt with you.

I wonder if they save the posts somewhere that are deleted. seeing how you were with math really clarified a lot of things for me as to why we have such problems in our dynamics. but its okay, we are still friends and if anything we will probably become closer.

Thank you.

I wouldn't have been that way before having spoken with you. So that's something. I could see some things you spoke about.

Bad news, it's what caused my wrong Jiffy read.

[Titus]

Like I tried several fake voting systems.

Even one I would run the VC on.

Sis said too complicated so I hard scumread her

Stop scumreading disagreement please.
I love vote data. But artificial compliance to an artificial paradigm does nothing for me.