The Walking Dead Season 1 Finale (GAME OVER)

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Y'all are done for.

I got this.

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VOTE: CatDog

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VOTE: MoI

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Nope.

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VOTE: SC

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I just realised I have rolled town in every single TWD episode.

How unfortunate.

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Hi Smart, can you explain that town read?

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The one on you? It's mostly from 143.
-smart

Why does that give you a town read?

PEdit - That's pretty impressive Bee. About time you rolled scum, eh?

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Why not?

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SirCakez is probtown.

VOTE: TiphaineDeath

Talk to me about both of these things.

Why is SC town? Why vote for TD?

Cakez is leaning town too.

Same thing - why?

[BlueBloodedToffee]

I'm caught up.

I have some town reads, I have some scum reads and I have some null reads.

I'm so good at this game.

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Do you have anything you would like to share?

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The way he tried to engage MOHIS reminds me of his town play. (And it pinged my gut all over the place )
-smart

Umm, what? SC didn't try to engage MOHIS at all. He stated a town read that he couldn't justify and it was Vedith forcing the interaction.

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The way he tried to engage MOHIS reminds me of his town play. (And it pinged my gut all over the place )
-smart

Umm, what? SC didn't try to engage MOHIS at all. He stated a town read that he couldn't justify and it was Vedith forcing the interaction.

Fair point. I still think the way he went about it was towny.

Sheeping denotes a lack of independent thought. "I'll sheep this" means "I have an excuse to have a vote out there without having to explain myself!"

It's scummy at worst. At best, it's anti-town. Either way, sheeping is not something we should tolerate.

I don't agree with this.
-smart

VOTE: Young and Witless

The defence of SC is pinging me hard.

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I'll get to this later but I'm a little sad that YAW haven't started picking up votes.

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Maverick, you should vote YAW.

I'm not really seeing why you're voting Mollie.

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You know why YAW is a better vote; you saw my reasons. Their defence of SC was shaky as hell.

Mollie and Kuroi produced a 100% NAI discussion and there will be much better reasons for reading both of them as the game progresses. YAW have done some scummy shit and they need to be lynched for it.

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Wisdom, thoughts on YAW?

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What about their defence of SC?

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It doesn't.

He could be scum WK'ing town or he could be scum defending a buddy.

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YAW probably would of put more effort into the defense if they were buddies with SC.

I mean, they tried, but it was an awful defence.

They would have continued defending but I cut the interaction short.

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SC, I think you have scum read me in every game we have played together.

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Hi Bee!

Can you help me lynch YAW please?

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Wow.

So many people willing to vote YAW yet so few actually doing it. How strange.

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Nice to see the YAW wagon picking up support.

Join the cool kids on the YAW wagon if you're not already on it!

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One good vote does not a townie make.

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Talk to me about hebichan, Mollie and Maxous. Do any of these fall under these reads?

-Vedith

At present, Hebi is a slight scum read, Maxous is a town read and Mollie is null. But I haven't read from page 9 onwards thoroughly.

Where are the other 16 players damn

I can give some examples, like this. I am impatient like this when it comes to scum hunting.

You can also ISO SirCakez for full resolution. It's not fake, it's someone wanting activity.

Why is wanting activity alignment indicative? And why does it indicate town?

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VOTE: Young and Witless

The defence of SC is pinging me hard.

Why?

Because both heads town-read SC and both heads flailed when trying to explain their town read.

VOTE: Mollie The spat between Mollie and Kuroi looks very forced and Mollies comes across as arrogant, with fluff questions that aren't doing anything to advance the game. Kuroi's reaction on the otherhand is pretty similar to how I imagine I would react and so I'm tentatively listing Kuroi as town.

I also like BBT's point about YAW, but I like my vote better on Mollie.

Maverick, I want to go back to this.

Why is arrogance alignment indicative? And what do you mean by 'forced', who is forcing what? Are you suggesting Mollie/Kuroi are scum together orrr? Also, Kuroi completely cut off Mollie's line of questioning so, like, whatever her point was she never had the chance to make it because of Kuroi getting weirdly defensive.

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I don't know what you're trying to say there.

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I feel like they're really weak reasons to be voting someone on page 18.

I can understand the soft-claim out of frustration with everyone suddenly jumping down Mollie's neck after she got completely cut off. I'm treading on ice here because I don't even have a read on her yet but that wagon makes me uncomfortable, especially if everyone is using those shoddy reasons.

PEdit - Hebi, how do you feel about voting for YAW?

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Ah, I see.

I have no intentions of lynching you yet, but I didn't like your reaction to Mollie.

How you feel about voting YAW?

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It's not rushing the day.

They only have 3 votes.

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You should read the exchange between YAW and myself where they both state a town read on SC and then fail in being able to justify it.

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MoI, you don't know me.

Like, at all.

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Right. It's a super small sample size.

Contrary to current belief, I am usually one of the most active posters in any game I am in. Over the past 9 months or so I have been super busy and just not had the time for it.

Even so, after all the 'lurking' you have seen me do, my average post count is still 20 posts per real life day sooo that should tell you to never try and meta me again.

Thanks.

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Ank!

Welcome to the game!

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You should immediately join the YAW wagon.

It's the cool wagon to be on.

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Maverick looks scum
IPS looks scum (both of these two for posts that look like there was no actual thought put into them and were just scum faking posts instead)
Beeboy null (he's done nothing AI yet)
Maxous looks townish (posts look real, unlike top two people here)
Xkfyu null (same as beeboy)
Kuroi leans awkward town
BBT leans scum (lots of coasty shitposts, not sharing reads, etc)
PV looks town (not his scum meta at all, and I don't think PV is one to adapt to his meta)

So now I have
Town - Maxous, Kuroi, PV, MOHIS
Null - Beeboy, Xkfyu
Scum - BBT, TD, IPS, Maverick

Feel a lot better now readswise

Why didn't you ISO everyone? This is an awful reads-list as well btw.

So far, YAW, Hebi and SC all look like good lynches.

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VOTE: iprobablysuck
TD can have some space for now

Yeah Iprobably is so busy that he can't post in this game but can post elsewhere on site ...

oh.

he's posting in other games?

strike three

Did it ever occur to you that i'm busy

because

of other games? I doubt it.

VOTE: Maxous

YAW had more than 3 posts, no?

I know I certainly didn't have many and you ISO'd me. So, yeah, I don't get it.

Your scum read on Maverick was weak sauce, the reasoning you gave made no sense at all. The town read on Maxous is bad (I agree with the read but you're reasoning is like wtf). What is awkward town? Why is not sharing reads alignment indicative?

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Ahhh, forgot I had the other tab open.

For the above two posts - SC, why did you choose to vote IPS over anyone else?

IPS, why did you choose to vote Maxous? And why is what Maxous did scummy?

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i dont like hebichan's reaction to Kuroi

What don't you like about it?

Kuroi’s 280 is self-conscious and straight up scum-posting he definitely goes in my scum pile

Why is self-conscious scummy?

I like Xkfyu for town for his interactions with PV and MOHIS.

Hebichan's interactions with Kuroi are similarly so.

What interactions and why did you like them?

For both Xk and Hebi.

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IPS looks like he is replacing out of other games.

That wagon should be disbanding right about now.

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Mod,V/LA until Saturday evening.

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I'll catch up on this later, only had a skim.

Farside's reads are pretty bad though. She could be scum.

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Yeah.

With valid reason.

So what?

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I mean, they flat out couldn't respond to the accusation leveled at them so why the hell would I move on?

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Man, lynching YAW is sooo hard.

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No, I think Creature said that. I thought (and still think) that the awkward way he interacted with Vedith was consistent with his town game. That's not something I would use to townread most other people.

The initial reason you gave for town reading SC;

The way he tried to engage MOHIS reminds me of his town play. (And it pinged my gut all over the place )

So you're town read was based on engagement and 'gut'. When I corrected you that SC hadn't actually engaged with MOHIS you wrote;

Umm, what? SC didn't try to engage MOHIS at all. He stated a town read that he couldn't justify and it was Vedith forcing the interaction.

Fair point. I still think the way he went about it was towny.

So you accept my point (which should kill your town read on SC) but it doesn't? This looks like you didn't want to backtrack on an early read because it makes you look bad so you need to try and justify it somehow and now it boils down to 'the way he went about it was towny'...the way he went about what? Vedith was forcing the interaction and SC was just responding (badly). So what exactly was 'towny' the way he went about it?

People need to read that above interaction if they still don't understand why YAW are scum. The town read is based on absolutely nothing and they cannot justify it. Instead of just accepting they made a bad read (on someone who apparently they struggle to read anyway) they start changing the reasoning for the read and it just doesn't add up.

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Right, soooo why not just say that instead of scrambling around for a reason to justify a gut read?

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The 'SC is town for trying hard' was also shown to be false.

Have you even read the game Farside?

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He literally asked where the other players were.

That's not trying hard to bring progress to the game.

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Like, how is wanting activity alignment indicative? Nevermind a town tell.

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I didn't call it WK'ing.

Plus, # of votes don't matter. It's all about context and the SC wagon was picking up momentum at that time.

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Maxous is town. He said so in his first post.

DGB is hard to read D1. I'd rather someone vig/investigate her. If not, I'll try to read her later in the game if we're both alive.

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Okay then. Don't know whether you're agreeing with me or not?

I don't particularly care for meta.

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You should put your vote on a major wagon Farside.

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If you say you have never seen a quicklynch in a large game, I too, will also call you a liar.

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It is. It's not like I would go out of my way to defend him on it or anything.

But he is nowhere near my lynch pile. There are at least 5 people I would lynch before him. At least.

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If we lynch YAW and they flip scum, you know you're getting lynched next, right?

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I mean, I think Hebi could be scum.

But like, YAW is much more likely to be scun IMO. I have no problem with both wagons.

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I feel like you're very non-commital this game Mollie.

Top 3 town and scum reads?

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No read on Hebi?

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Hi Ank,

You should do something with your vote.

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Yeah but so is YAW and we have a wagon there.

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YAW are doing surface level 'scum-hunting'. Asking general/busy questions (which they don't seem to care about the response to) and stating reads to make it look like they're doing stuff.

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Ank is being awfully generic.

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320 reminds me of a thing I did as scum in a Fire & Ice game where I tried to justify a reachy point early in the game and had to walk people through my convoluted logic.

Why are you applying your meta to somebody else?

Similarly, aren't you doing that exact same thing with your read on SC?

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Still not sold on YAW Wisdom?

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Hypothetical question bbt, what will your reads be if your wrong.

I don't see the point in me answering this or even the point in you asking it.

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Still not sold on YAW Wisdom?

stop tunneling

Pretty sure I'm not tunneling. And that made me genuinely laugh coming from you.

You're tunneling on one player and thought of nothing else.
So I'm asking what your reads will be if you are wilting.
My point is for you to look beyond the tunnel.

I'm trying to get one player lynched, certainly. But I'm nowhere near tunneling.

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I was wrong about BBT, I can tell he's town now that he's stopped goofing around

What changed? Be specific in what makes you think I'm town.

Why is this scummy?
-smart

Because it makes it look like the read was forced and you actually had nothing to back it up. Then you gave reasoning, which you accepted was poor when it was pointed out to you, and then you started to change the reasoning instead of retracting the read and accepting you made a mistake. Scum don't like looking like they have made mistakes.

Iso of Young and Witless looks like they are scumhunting. They are a slight townlean.

Show me this scum hunting YAW are doing?

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@something smart

: is there a specific reason you keep asking questions that you don't care what the answer is or if it's answered at all?

i don't see you doing in this previous town games. I actually checked

Oh! Me! Me! Me! I got the answer!

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To look like town!

They're just busy questions to make it look like they're actually scum hunting. The questions themselves aren't great either tbh.

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Which I just agreed with? Pushing one wagon is not tunneling Farside.

I have a scum read and I'm pushing it. I don't see your problem with that?

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For Xkfyu, I liked in 255 how he didn't back down from what he was saying despite his terminology being challenged, and I think the way he was trying to get reads out of people

without caring how it makes him look

reminds me of his towngame.

Can you expand on the bold for me?

Because not sharing reads just looks like you're just saying you have reads so you look like you're doing something.

Just want to point something out here; if I wanted to look like I was doing something do you think it would be a better idea for me to share my reads instead of making a post that is sure to draw attention?

For Xkfyu, I liked in 255 how he didn't back down from what he was saying despite his terminology being challenged, and I think the way he was trying to get reads out of people without caring how it makes him look reminds me of his towngame.

I remember us talking about this exact thing in Math's Mafia.

What do you mean by this Xk?

So given the sparsity of reasoning on hebi as scum (which I agree with) in your ISO why are you scum-
reading her?

I didn't like the SC vote on 122 - could be an honest mistake but she very clearly misread the Vedith/SC interaction. Even so, the reasoning behind the vote is weak and I don't like it.

The vote on Kuroi (213) is even worse; she just says he is 'so scum' and votes him.

The jump on Mollie (298) came out of the blue; especially after saying she understood what Mollie was trying to do. (214)

355 is stretching to try and justify a Bee scum read. The unvote with no revote in 441 was weird as well, it's like she forgot she had other scum reads.

I didn't even like the jump onto the YAW wagon but I'm happy with YAW being lynched so meh.

Town.

Walk me through what was town about Hebi's post.

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Actually no

Hebichan's post on this page is town

UNVOTE:

I'm wondering why you didn't rejoin the YAW wagon?

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YAW wagon collapsing and if it continues to there will be no CW to Hebi.

I wonder what that could mean.

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DGB, why you not voting?

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Intent to hammer.

Hebi, you should claim in your next post.

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Any flavour Hebi?

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I think YAW having a hard time explaining their read on me is a town tell rather then scumtell, knowing the heads. Both of them have had difficulty reading me in the past and I think if they were scum they would have taken the easy scumread on me.

If BOTH of them have difficulty reading you why would they stick their neck out with an early read? Why not wait until they feel like they have something solid? Does it not strike you as strange that TWO people who struggle to read you both threw out a town read (that they later couldn't justify) just as you started picking up votes? The timing of that town read was bad and I don't personally think you had done anything that indicated you are town - in fact, it was quite the opposite.

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Thanks for the birthday message Radja!

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I am not having difficulty to explain my read.

Pushing activity is a towntell and that's what SirCakez was trying to do.

You're very clearly struggling to explain the read.

Pushing activity is not a town tell. Additionally, SC was not pushing acitivity. Asking where other players are when you start coming under pressure is not pushing activity - it's looking for distractions/help.

He might be scum, but he's not as obvious as hebichan - or perhaps you.

Where did this scum read on CatDog come from?

I still like my vote

Someone better fucking vig this.

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Wisdom, you're boring me now.

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hm

UNVOTE: KuroiXHF

@mollie: convince me on YAW?

Ank, walk me through why this unvote happened?

Then talk to me about why you wanted to join the YAW wagon over your own scum reads.

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What about his responses were town?

You did have two scum reads though so it seems strange that you wouldn't want to vote one of them instead of asking someone to coerce you into a different wagon.

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What is your read on YAW MoI?

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I'll catch up on this later, only had a skim.

Farside's reads are pretty bad though. She could be scum.

Her reads are pretty good
Not sure what the point of this was

I say what my point is in that very post - I thought she could be scum.

Now, what was the point of

your

post?

As or YAW, I just see a guy trying to figure the game out.
There is a lot of pressure on him and he seems to be giving reads regardless of what players are saying about him. He's not defensive and instead you have questioning here, I found his point on hebichan something I felt when I was reading her too.
here he is more indepth about why he's scum reading the player Basically in short I see more thoughts from him then defensiveness.

I don't see YAW giving out a lot of reads? As for the questioning - what does it actually accomplish? Those questions are shallow questions that don't actually achieve anything.

YAW's attack on Hebi seems to be their saving grace and I'm not sure why. They could easily be scum together and it's so much easier to attack your buddy when you KNOW they're scum. Just because they make a good point about one person, that doesn't negate everything else they have done.

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If we lynch YAW and they flip scum, you know you're getting lynched next, right?

???
Wouldn't you be concerned with me since they were, y'know, hard defending me?

This is the second time you have done this and I'm not sure what to make of it.

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A null read on a major wagon.

You should probably sort that out.

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I could see Ank being scum here.

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If Hebi flips town, Basic prob scum.

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Meh, what drew you to that conclusion? I think I've explained my thoughts. A lynch is more likely to garner inspection of the wagon, hell even if Im on it and despite some last minute wtf just happened post best to think about, and unvote, I feel fairly justified with where my vote is.

I'm curious to see a scum list from you. As I think I'm the only person on your radar bar Yaw since like page 5. Minus everything that happened with Hebi and mollie,that from memory you never picked up on (and that xkfyu skitted by the commotion as it happened) instead pushing your Yaw wagon which was far less worth noting. I think you're playing your cards far too close to your chest for my comfort and would finally like something concrete from you. Unless I've missed it. Still a recap would be nice.

I'll go into it when I need to.

Why is it you need something from me now? Why not before I became suspicious of you?

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The only thing that is giving me second thoughts is I think scum would use a better fake-claim than BP?

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Claim and no CW giving me the heebie jeebies.

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VOTE: Hebi

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Hi all, will catch up on game later.

Can tell you all that DGB is town so you don't need to worry about her.

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No hope about it Farside, she is town.

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I chose DGB because she did nothing to me that helped me read her.

It was between DGB and Pere. Also, I was a 1-shot gunsmith which means DGB is clear as even a GF shows up with a gun, no? Also means we probably have a vig who didn't shoot for false positives.

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The above is probably getting OMGUS'ed after I have read the thread.

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They're voting me before I start pushing them again. Plus, I'm an easy vote as the creator of the opposing Hebi wagon.

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I don't know what you're talking about Ank or why you quoted that post.

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What's wrong with SC wagon wisdom?

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I mean, I felt good yesterday that we had two scum wagons as leading wagons.

IMO, the only real cw to Hebi was YAW.

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I honestly haven't paid much attention to Mollie (and I haven't read D2 thoroughly) just kind of skimmed over everything.

I thought her questioning to Kuroi early D1 was weird but I kind of felt like it was town? Plus, she said her PR is self-resolving so I just wanna leave that be for now, you know?

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Because, as I clearly stated on D1, I believe both leading wagons were on scum.

I will read the game properly when I can get to my laptop.

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VOTE: SC

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I'm happy voting SC.

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I'd rather lynch Basic but I don't think that's happening so meh.

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What is it you want answering Magna?

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Yeah, that was pretty poor from Maxous.

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I don't understand your issue Magna.

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Also in retrospect herbi could have joined that YAW wagon long ago.
I half wonder now if they are both scum.

I would still totally do this.

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VOTE: Wisdom

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I'm always bad.

It's like a disease.

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You've been cleared DGB.

Are you not even reading, ffs.

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I'd still lynch YAW in a heartbeat.

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I concur with what DGB says. But nobody seems to want to lynch YAW because 'bad VCA'.

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VOTE: YAW

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People don't think scum can be the two leading wagons.

Which is bad.

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We can lynch Wisdom tomorrow. I mean, I think YAW was pushed pretty hard so I'm not sure I agree with that.

Come help with YAW Mollie.

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I agree.

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Lol Ank. You serious?

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DGB is confirmed town dude.

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I'd lynch Basic.

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I haven't really been following this game for a while. Not sure I'm comfortable with a Maxous lynch but I'm not town reading him strongly enough to fight against it either so meh.

Kuroi looks like a good lynch.

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Kuroi is better than both Maxous and PV.

So is Basic.

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I'd lynch that so much ^^^

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He was at L-2 and Basic vote puts him to L-1.

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Yeah, they must have a role cop.

I was only one-shot Farside, I have no results.

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VOTE: Pere

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Agree with one of Basic/Kuroi being scum.

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I'd lynch Mollie if she doesn't explain today.

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That's an interesting claim.

Mollie, you should protect me tonight.

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It's hard lynching near conf town though isn't it?

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Merle Dixon.

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Try lynching me then.

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What is taking so long?

We have a guilty and people are dragging their feet.

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It's practically a guilty and there are two people who are not V/LA and they're not voting Pere which is just lol bad.

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UNVOTE:

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the last Magna posts are starting to making me doubt my townread on him

I'm not folllowing?

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Wis, do you think Magna needs to try hard to get on the PV lynch? Doesn't makr much sense coming from scum to me.

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That's hilarious.

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Was that hammer?

VOTE: Pere

Just to be sure.

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Radja always gives quality fake-claims.

Daryl Dixon as Tracker would make so much sense. Pere prob still a tracker, but for scum.

More on that post-game though.

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Yeah, Dwlee is town.

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VOTE: Maria

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Farside, please stop with the MoI push.

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Why would I need to chat with someone?

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I didn't have to, no.

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My thinking was that lurkers are always great to investigate.

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What the fuck? Someone tell me why Magna is scum.

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Why is it fake? I don't see anything as fake.

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I mean, you also lynched Maxous soo....

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Mollie definitely had you as scum Wisdom.

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Magna is town and this is a really bad wagon.

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VOTE: Wisdom

I can do this.

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VOTE: Maria

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Why do you want to lurk Farside?

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I wouldn't say I have lurked.

Hard to motivate myself when I'm conf-town and people just continue to argue in circles.

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BBT why are you dodging voting Kuroi or Xkfyu?

Because I don't think they're scum.

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VOTE: Xk

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Arguing in circles is fun.

Can we get a lynch that isn't MoI to move this game forward? Thanks.

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UNVOTE:

You haven't used your shot?

Can we lynch Maria yet?

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I don't know why I'm letting people influence me so easily.

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There is obviously a vig in this game Wisdom.

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I am a gunsmith instead of a cop for a reason.

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VOTE: Maria

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that's not necessarily the reason

You got another one?

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What?

You mean the whole 1 vote after you voted?

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there doesnt even need to be one. Gunsmith is simply a weaker role.

And it gives false positives on a Vig.

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And a cop doesn't.

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And I was town reading Xk but got frustrated with you and Farside arguing in circles.

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Shooting Basic would be great!

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VOTE: Basic

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Vote them then MOHIS.

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I'm conf town Maria.

Stop being silly. If you continue to push it, I'll lynch you.

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I can only assume I have been left alive as there is enough doubt about my claim to do so.

Should you push this, it would be you that left me alive in the hope you could throw enough shade my way.

Also, I have revealed more than one result

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Nah, I believe Magna also doubts my claim.

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I have a result in my first post of D3.

Two secs

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Yeah, Dwlee is town.

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Dwlee was under heavy suspicion leading into D4.

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I checked Farside and I'm annoyed that I did.

Farside is not carrying a gun.

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I think scum are immune to my check.

Killing SC over me last night is crazy. Bet scum are in my clears. Mafia Doc to counter Vig?

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Then I must be town reading the last scum pretty hard because they obviously feel quite safe.

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Nope.

Checked You, Dwlee and Farside. All clears.

Scum gunsmith is funny though.

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I have no idea or who is scum.

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I was getting paranoia about Farside and started to think I must be town reading the last scum because they're not scared of me checking them.

So I went with Farside as I had shown a clear willingness to lynch you or Basic so if I didn't get killed I wanted to investigate someone else as I expected to die anyway if it was either of you two.

Basically, I am convinced that I am either a) town reading scum or b) wrongly cleared them.

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I checked Farside; she is town.

VOTE: MOHIS

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VOTE: YAW

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Why are Maria/Basic scum?

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Do better?

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VOTE: MOHIS

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I went back and looked at D1 VCs and it is really hard to see YAW as scum - both Hebi and Xk were on their wagon.

I don't know how MOHIS has skated by for so long unquestioned though.

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I don't see that so I'm interested in seeing their explanation.

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You've arguably done the same thing Farside.

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I'm not seeing Basic as scum at all right now.

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It kind of is the sudden activity and it's part of SC dying instead of me as well.

I know it's WIFOM but I think scum!Basic and prob scun!Maria both kill me.

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I feel like everyone BUT Maria/Basic are just skating by and I'm not sure I'm comfortable with it.

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Not sure what to make of Basic jumping on and off the Hebi wagon D1. She eventually stayed on it until lynch though - would scum sacrifice their ninja? Flipped scum avoided that wagon like the plague.