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Post Post #2709 (isolation #200) » Tue Jul 12, 2016 8:54 am

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You played a weird varient; it's definitely a bus driver...
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Post Post #2726 (isolation #201) » Tue Jul 12, 2016 9:09 am

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MafiaSSK wrote:I also don't think Fire would inherently know that he was being protected. There are a bajillion neighborhood powers in this game and so it would probably be safer to assume the contrary.
I told him we supposedly had protection. Scum probably wouldn't have tried to kill me if fb is mafia considering he would die too.

So they killed drixx instead.
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Post Post #2743 (isolation #202) » Tue Jul 12, 2016 9:18 am

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I don't believe twie is the vig. Be sure to revisit him.

VOTE: bro This is the safest bet today.
In post 396, BROseidon wrote:
In post 286, Egg wrote:If in a week or so we still don't have anything I'm all for it.
Given how slowly ms games move, you're probably looking at like a month.

TWIE will literally not do anything for the first 2-3 day phases, but he's useful as town after that. I'm willing to give him that long to get started.
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Post Post #2745 (isolation #203) » Tue Jul 12, 2016 9:21 am

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Trying to flashwagon scum is a dumber move than vigging vla and obvtown.

Yup, we're here.
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Post Post #2754 (isolation #204) » Tue Jul 12, 2016 9:43 am

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They're having twie carry out their kills. Bro probably has the stronger role.
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Post Post #2759 (isolation #205) » Tue Jul 12, 2016 10:42 am

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In post 2757, TheWayItEnds wrote:as long as we're doing surface level analysis on preflip associations. 2446 probably makes rach scum too.
When she is caught doing the night kill maybe
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Post Post #2770 (isolation #206) » Tue Jul 12, 2016 11:02 am

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Can fb be our vig again?
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Post Post #2796 (isolation #207) » Tue Jul 12, 2016 5:36 pm

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I don't see how a scum ascetic already flipping makes all ascetic claims scum.

But yeah they totally could have killed piggy, and there is no erasing the pattern of going after nash day1 and downplaying the wagon after their gambit by tunneling our poor stump.

Who have you visited bro?
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Post Post #2799 (isolation #208) » Tue Jul 12, 2016 5:48 pm

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In post 2797, BROseidon wrote:N1 Punch
N2 Punch
N3 Did nothing
n1 kill is redirected to me and fails thanks to the jailkeeper
n2 kills punch
n3 kills piggy?

That would fall into line if twie is telling the truth, but that's doubtful.
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Post Post #2829 (isolation #209) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 10:36 am

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Broflcopter down
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Post Post #2832 (isolation #210) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 11:28 am

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Snowman and Edgelords need to doublevote. Can we get a couple prods?
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Post Post #2849 (isolation #211) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 2:54 pm

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In post 2846, Klingoncelt wrote:
In post 2705, Narna wrote:You chose to shoot someone on vla instead of prodge master egg. That's such a shitty vig kill. But I was thinking that day 2, so I guess it's moot.

The piggy kill is scummy though.

I see what you're saying about the redirect, but how does it make fire town?
You chose to shoot someone on vla instead of prodge master egg. That's such a shitty vig kill.


He chose not to shoot his prod-dodging Scumbuddy, more like.

Vote for Egg, I guarantee that he's Scum.
So you're using twie's claim of him vigging drixx to justify that egg was doing another kill which got blocked, but also think they are on the same team?
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Post Post #2853 (isolation #212) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 3:05 pm

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So uhh town has 3 protection roles, one of which can protect two people? Maybe you caught the scum doc.

I'm ok with lynching egg, but bro's interactions with Nash were inconsistent and seemed like someone who wanted her to get away. Also I don't really believe twie.
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Post Post #2855 (isolation #213) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 3:32 pm

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It'd be more likely that the jailkeeping would have prevented fire from making a kill than protecting them from it is the point he was making, I think.
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Post Post #2861 (isolation #214) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 5:06 pm

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Rach visited punch and got redirected to me on night one. She visited you and stole your vote on night 3.
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Post Post #2863 (isolation #215) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 5:35 pm

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Egg, how do you even have 3 targets if your action failed n1?
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Post Post #2885 (isolation #216) » Fri Jul 15, 2016 8:47 am

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In post 2877, Egg wrote:Didn't BRO claim aesctetic? Should I not have been able to successfully target him last night? Just thought of that.
He said he only is aescetic when visiting someone, which he supposedly didn't do last night.

Rach is all over the place; is that normal?

I'm so confused why punch didn't get any protection or watched on night 2.
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Post Post #2933 (isolation #217) » Fri Jul 15, 2016 1:33 pm

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Don't discuss new vig targets with the bus driver alive.
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Post Post #2937 (isolation #218) » Fri Jul 15, 2016 1:52 pm

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Bs caira and I agreed to lynch bro last phase during the lover conversation.
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Post Post #2939 (isolation #219) » Fri Jul 15, 2016 1:55 pm

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vote: twie

Kill one of the false vigs today.
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Post Post #2968 (isolation #220) » Fri Jul 15, 2016 7:42 pm

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In post 2940, MafiaSSK wrote:Why not firebringer?
I'd be fine with lynching fb, but we caught twie doing the nightkill. His claimed kills are inconsistent with his play. He complained that he stopped caring/reading because of the no lynch on day 1, yet with his power role he could have remedied the whole issue by shooting Nash night 1 and giving us a relevant flip. Instead he shoots Drixx (vla most of the phase) for having only three posts, that just happen to be about how Nash is scum. Killing Piggy contradicts the drixx kill since piggy was active and there were still people lurking super hard that he could have shot. Twie said that he listened to Punch when it came to his read on Piggy, but why not when it came to his stronger read on Nash who had just made the "intent to hammer" gambit?

Couple that with the fact that there have been zero multikill nights and he didn't comment on Nash whatsoever during days 2/3, and all signs point to mafia.

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Post Post #2974 (isolation #221) » Fri Jul 15, 2016 8:11 pm

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Ask the mod that in a pm man. What the fuck is this claim?
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Post Post #2975 (isolation #222) » Fri Jul 15, 2016 8:11 pm

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For what it's worth, I hope you got your vote back fb <3
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Post Post #3029 (isolation #223) » Sat Jul 16, 2016 8:51 am

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Why does punch want me out?

I'm not rc fire.
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Post Post #3039 (isolation #224) » Sat Jul 16, 2016 9:04 am

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In post 3037, Shiro wrote:He was mentioned in Lord English pm so I assume he exists
Did you mean Lord English flip?

@rach they are probably a doctor/bodygaurd
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: The first time you would be killed at night, you survive. If Doc Scratch dies protecting you, this ability changes to read "you cannot be killed at night and your killing actions cannot be roleblocked, redirected or protected against." and you gain a dayvig shot.


@fb you said "thanks RC" to me after the last time I had posted.
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Post Post #3070 (isolation #225) » Sat Jul 16, 2016 4:07 pm

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There's also, "I was only pretending to be a vig aha!"
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Post Post #3084 (isolation #226) » Sat Jul 16, 2016 7:52 pm

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In post 3074, Firebringer wrote:
In post 3072, Narna wrote:There's also, "I was only pretending to be a vig aha!"
I pointed out reasoning behind my action are you not going to address it?
It slipped my mind, my bad. That does go along with you saying you reread and saw Punch as town during day 2. The hider gambit is way more believable than "drixx can't be a maf kill" considering drixx's only scumread was in fact scum who was in the hot seat after day 1.

I'm fine with lynching Fire for the no hammer, but for a missed kill because someone with a supposed higher body count than the mafia said there should be a missed kill, is a leap of faith. There's been one kill a night for 3 nights, and scum probably has fake claims. We already did Deathnote in for being roleblocked on d2. As I recall, Derse got some flak for that.
hebichan wrote:Might not be an idiot but seems suspect here.

VOTE: firebringer
This isn't new information. Did Fire confusing himself make you wanna shift from lynching all lurkers that badly? p5 is the scummiest of the people who are barely contributing to the game in my book. How do you feel about him?
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Post Post #3099 (isolation #227) » Sat Jul 16, 2016 8:54 pm

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In post 3087, hebichan wrote:I actually forgot peregine was in this game. Thatis how little impact he has on me. You got flack for the derse kill cause nashville wass horridly scummier thandeathnote. Lurking seems to be his thing though, from what I hear of him from others.

There has been one kill a night, but last nights was from a claimed vig, so unless twie is scum hiding ss vig, we gave a missing kill, unlike night two.
Bro basically confirmed scum having fake claims, so he very well could be hiding as the vig. According to twie, there is a missing kill from night one as well. Screw reads though, let's just follow the guy who hasn't contributed to the vote in any meaningful way since day one. He's only active now because killing piggy put him under the gun.
Papa Zito wrote:Can we agree if our vig goes rogue and shoots someone not named snarky or pv we lynch it with extreme prejudice?
I can see it now,
"my role failed"
"b-bus driver!?"
Lynch it tomorrow regardless.
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Post Post #3101 (isolation #228) » Sat Jul 16, 2016 9:18 pm

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In post 3102, Shadoweh wrote:
In post 3089, Klingoncelt wrote: Are you a watcher, too then?
what a question, no?

I guess we're not lynching Egg today. It would be pretty hard for him to get me in on this neighbouraction if he was dead I supose. I think pere wanted to lynch nash in derse? I am drunk as hell right now thoguh but im rertty sure that happened. Uhm I feel like i have anxiety over firebringer becuase his refusal to lynch nash was weird but like, i guess he did get away with it for a day. All things considered i am willing to giv e in to the lynch train that has been 900% more accurate despite my paranoia.
p5 actually had this little golden nugget for you in derse

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PV is scum wrote:I think Deathnote is town. This is how he plays.

I think the scummiest is Papa Zito. Mostly vibes.

I think creature is town, but a roleblocking trestump sounds fake to me.

Shadoweh I think is town, but could be scum.

Cephrir is a warthog.

I don't mind trying this out for size.

Vote: Shadoweh

Nothing about Nash, nothing about his scum read, nothing about his town read aside from the fact that he voted it, is this the pv everyone knows and loves?
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Post Post #3121 (isolation #229) » Sun Jul 17, 2016 1:56 pm

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On second thought, I'm not really liking the hider claim.

VOTE: fire
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Post Post #3128 (isolation #230) » Sun Jul 17, 2016 4:29 pm

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Post Post #3130 (isolation #231) » Sun Jul 17, 2016 6:30 pm

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In post 3123, Mirhawk wrote:I never said I was scumreading P5, rather I can't read him.

I approve of putting those people in the neighborhood, all the people on that list are probably town. That gives TWIE some people to talk to about who good kills would be.

Adding ssk has pros and cons. On one hand it would be handy for them to know who the protection targets are, but on the other hand he's easily the least town of that group and if even one scum slips in there it's going to blow up in our faces.

I've been thinking about it and Fire's claim reminds me a lot of Bro's claim. Both of them are double negative utility roles. I could see scum deciding together to claim those in role madness to look unobtrusive.

Vote: Fire
I wouldn't call a hider negative utility.
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Post Post #3140 (isolation #232) » Mon Jul 18, 2016 7:32 am

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This probably isn't it, but maybe it was a town bus driver who wanted to protect punch from Fire's claimed vig shot.
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Post Post #3158 (isolation #233) » Mon Jul 18, 2016 7:45 am

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In post 3143, Caira wrote:and flipped redirector...

so all this bus driver talk is literally bullshit. Good job guys ^_^
I don't think dn is the same as the bus driver. unless his night one was hebi > punch and rach > narna there probably was a bus driver.
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Post Post #3163 (isolation #234) » Mon Jul 18, 2016 9:58 am

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Give us some half assed reads and you will have earned the right to party.
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Post Post #3165 (isolation #235) » Mon Jul 18, 2016 10:10 am

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Do you want to try hammering yourself for shits?

VOTE: Firebringer
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Post Post #3167 (isolation #236) » Mon Jul 18, 2016 10:14 am

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In post 3155, Caira wrote:
In post 3146, Caira wrote:TWIE vig pool
Rach
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I agree with this pool, but would remove rach from it if Fire is scum.
MafiaSSK wrote:
In post 3140, Narna wrote:This probably isn't it, but maybe it was a town bus driver who wanted to protect punch from Fire's claimed vig shot.
Who did Firebringer say he was going to shoot in your chat?
He didn't confirm because he was null reading me, which is fair.
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Post Post #3218 (isolation #237) » Mon Jul 18, 2016 1:58 pm

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VOTE: rach

Leave me out of any vig pools if you are going to believe fb.
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Post Post #3253 (isolation #238) » Mon Jul 18, 2016 4:59 pm

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In post 3233, MafiaSSK wrote:I also don't like how quickly Narna jumped on this.
No one wants to lynch my guy, so I sheeped the stump. It's not like there's any proof of role blocking or protection yet.
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Post Post #3261 (isolation #239) » Wed Jul 20, 2016 9:08 pm

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Something about waiting for magical info fairies.
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Post Post #3343 (isolation #240) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 8:33 am

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In post 3327, TheWayItEnds wrote:I read piggy claim and removing that ability from the game was a bonus to killing her slot not a deteiment.
Why didn't you bring this up yesterday?

Edgy had a shaky claim from my perspective, but I don't think shooting outside of the pool was smart.
In post 2770, Narna wrote:Can fb be our vig again?
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Post Post #3354 (isolation #241) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 8:46 am

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In post 3344, TheWayItEnds wrote:I started with it.
I don't see it, just that "they were scummmy in day1" reasoning.
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Post Post #3362 (isolation #242) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 8:56 am

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In post 3360, TheWayItEnds wrote:
In post 3353, MafiaSSK wrote:
In post 3349, TheWayItEnds wrote:Possible bus drive target if he's not scum.
So who do you intend on shooting then if not the ones you've said are scummy or who could be scummy? Why would you even shoot if you weren't sure they wouldn't be scum?
Yeah but since it turns out that I've lucked into shooting every odd night and I said Mirhawk was my other vig shot it seemed like if they were gonna try and move my shot somewhere Mirhawk last night is when they would have done it.
"They're going to drive your shitty pool"

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Post Post #3368 (isolation #243) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 9:15 am

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Caira, why did you back down from Rach last phase? You stuck to Nash like glue despite their ate.
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Post Post #3369 (isolation #244) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 9:28 am

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In post 3279, Creature wrote:Just vote TWIE, we already have a bunch of good arguments to why he's scum.
I'm just trying to discuss a few things. I will vote twie.

What does the dead think about people not switching over to rach last phase?
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Post Post #3377 (isolation #245) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 9:44 am

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I don't really see mafia flailing about like ssk at the end of the phase protecting Rach and calling me out, knowing that fb would flip town.
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Post Post #3381 (isolation #246) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 9:49 am

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Pv > Shiro > Snarky

all three need to go eventually
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Post Post #3388 (isolation #247) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 10:06 am

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Well twie did manage to survive for two days after being caught doing the night kill.

All of the regret is on us.
Egg wrote:Some people's attitude towards TheWayItEnds feels more "lynch him to punish bad shots" than "he's scum". I'm looking at hebichan mostly.
On the off chance that twie is the ballsiest vig, we'll know where to look.
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Post Post #3389 (isolation #248) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 10:09 am

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Egg, did you target me with your action night 3?
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Post Post #3392 (isolation #249) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 10:20 am

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VOTE: twie
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Post Post #3400 (isolation #250) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 10:25 am

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It's really strong vig play to shoot outside of the vig pool that multiple people said you get rope for not following.
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Post Post #3405 (isolation #251) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 10:27 am

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In post 3396, MafiaSSK wrote:
In post 3393, Egg wrote:At least SSK admits it's a policy lynch I guess...
I mean, TWIE can literally not be anything but an annoyance to town.

Also don't like what Narna just did. But y'know.
In post 3253, Narna wrote:
In post 3233, MafiaSSK wrote:I also don't like how quickly Narna jumped on this.
No one wants to lynch my guy, so I sheeped the stump. It's not like there's any proof of role blocking or protection yet.
twie was my guy. Why are you throwing so much flak my way?
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Post Post #3414 (isolation #252) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 10:33 am

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To believe twie is the vig is to believe scum has made 1 kill in 5 nights.
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Post Post #3415 (isolation #253) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 10:34 am

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ebwop 4 nights
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Post Post #3427 (isolation #254) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 10:43 am

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In post 3420, Caira wrote:yea but they sure have no pulse on the game. It is frustrating.
I like them today. Shiro is the one without a pulse.
Caira wrote:honestly we'd have to be dealing with a bunch of bozo's as scum. Especially when they apparently have a BUS DRIVER. A role that counters protection...lol

this is top 5 worst fakeclaims
He got an extra day out of it after being caught killing, so it's solid imo. Bro was obvscum, so I'm not counting that day.
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Post Post #3432 (isolation #255) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 10:53 am

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Twie, some of Drixx's items sound like they could be used to kill.
Caira wrote:and honestly I mean some people in here believe him which is just appalling. Maybe it isn't so bad.

We should hydra sometime Narna
If people on this site play hydra only games ever, sure. I don't really like hydras being in normal games.
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Post Post #3433 (isolation #256) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 10:54 am

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also, scum having protection doesn't make twie any less likely to be sk. However, I'm thinking you're mafia.
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Post Post #3446 (isolation #257) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 11:06 am

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If twie flips town, he's a worse vig than titus is scum.

ayy
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Post Post #3455 (isolation #258) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 11:13 am

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In post 3449, Caira wrote:
In post 2284, Nashville Dreams wrote:I am one of the best scum players on site tyvm. I isn't claim my full role for a reason.
ayyy
Someone gets it. pedit: It's leagues better.

twie seems like a strong player. There is no way he is shitting the bed as vig this hard.
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Post Post #3462 (isolation #259) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 11:29 am

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Edgelords seems like a heroic shot to me. Especially if you consider the fact that people were saying they would lynch you for shooting outside of the pool. He pretty much had to be scum for you.

vigging someone who was vla for most of an 80 page day 1 does not seem like utility. Shooting a player with a large wagon at some point after day 1's no lynch, would have been utility.

We still have the 3 biggest lurksacks alive, and I hear they are known for this. Those would be utility kills.
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Post Post #3475 (isolation #260) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 11:37 am

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My god dude. What did you even do this game twie?
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Post Post #3485 (isolation #261) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 11:43 am

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In the worst case scenario, Snarky shot gets redirected
we lynch you
we lynch snarky
1 for 2 maf/town trade

or

shoot edgey
we lynch you
???
0 for 2 trade

What were you thinking was going to happen?
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Post Post #3492 (isolation #262) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 11:47 am

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Creature is confirmed town and agreed with/altered the list.

The list was also just a bunch of utility kills and rach/ssk. Anyone should be able to see that, and you could choose have chosen to "treat vig as a utility role"
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Post Post #3501 (isolation #263) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 11:54 am

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In post 3497, TheWayItEnds wrote:Removing piggy ability from the game is a pretty big positive.

Edgelords is a useless slot and not anywhere close to conftown.
Piggy's role needed to go eventually, but you didn't mention that yesterday dude. Please show me where you led with that.
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Post Post #3512 (isolation #264) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 12:02 pm

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In post 2769, TheWayItEnds wrote:yeah but like we clearly covered that i wasnt doing that.
cmon, even ignoring the killing, you were anti-town as fuck after day 1 ended. You didn't lead with piggy's passive being dangerous, and contributed to zero wagons outside of edgelords on day 1.
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Post Post #3515 (isolation #265) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 12:06 pm

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In post 3508, TheWayItEnds wrote:Having a private dead neighborhood is not a needed town ability with creature in the game. Being able to privately talk with scum however would be a huge boo for the scum team.
see that's the thought process of someone who is trying to make heroic shots. If Creature chose not to or didn't get a chance to stump, edgelords' neighboring becomes stronger. Is that too far removed from the possibility of a bastard game?

pedit: We are on day 6 now qt.
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Post Post #3517 (isolation #266) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 12:09 pm

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I can't be the only one who thought he was implying that there were too many abilities with double votes floating around.

right?...
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Post Post #3529 (isolation #267) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 12:16 pm

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In post 3519, TheWayItEnds wrote:Yeah and day 4 is where I started playing again. What's your point.
You started playing again once you were caught doing the scum kill
In post 3514, TheWayItEnds wrote:Stop. The. Fucking. Presses.
I'm not saying Edgelords wasn't worthy of vigging. I didn't see them as obvtown at all given their last few phases. However, they weren't suspicious enough to shoot outside of the pool that multiple people, including a stump, agree to.
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Post Post #3538 (isolation #268) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 12:22 pm

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In post 3534, TheWayItEnds wrote:
In post 3527, hebichan wrote:
In post 3526, TheWayItEnds wrote:Why would I need to do that?
Of all your talk of not regretting your shots, I do not regret this lynch.
Yeah I mean you can be as willingly shit as you want. No one's stopping you.
Wait so he is trolling.

We caught scum!
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Post Post #3545 (isolation #269) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 12:34 pm

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fuck you dude.
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Post Post #3547 (isolation #270) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 12:35 pm

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In post 3218, Narna wrote:VOTE: rach

Leave me out of any vig pools if you are going to believe fb.
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Post Post #3549 (isolation #271) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 12:37 pm

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You could have shared that with the dead thread if you had to.
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Post Post #3554 (isolation #272) » Sat Jul 23, 2016 7:30 pm

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VOTE: Ceph

Where are you hiding the kills?
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Post Post #3557 (isolation #273) » Sat Jul 23, 2016 9:36 pm

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With the vig dead, I think we should start clearing out some of the lurkers.
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Post Post #3604 (isolation #274) » Sun Jul 24, 2016 11:02 am

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twie said he was going to vig Snarky, so

VOTE: pv
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Post Post #3605 (isolation #275) » Sun Jul 24, 2016 11:07 am

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@Creature, did fb ever use his "mod privilege" ?
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Post Post #3613 (isolation #276) » Sun Jul 24, 2016 11:52 am

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What does this one do for you though ssk?
In post 1764, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 1762, Narna wrote:ssk claim is godlike; I'm not revisiting him today.
It may have gotten him out of the lynch, but he'll be killed or blocked until killed, making him effectively useless.
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Post Post #3616 (isolation #277) » Sun Jul 24, 2016 11:55 am

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What makes you say that?
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Post Post #3624 (isolation #278) » Sun Jul 24, 2016 12:25 pm

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For me it's pv/snarky > Zito > ssk/Mir

hammering the lurker threat without contributing to discussion about the vig shouldn't be ignored. I really didn't like that post from pv in derse. I know that's kind of shitty, but it's hard to pull shit out of your ass to justify which lurker is the worst.

Zito has been overly defensive all game, and pushing for policy lynches can be good defensive scum play.

lol ssk

Mir has a few good posts, but he's been pretty low-key and remains as sort of an unknown variable.

VOTE: unvote I don't feel comfortable leaving someone at L-2 this early in the day as I go off to work.
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Post Post #3769 (isolation #279) » Sun Jul 24, 2016 7:46 pm

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Laziness and waiting for info sure looks like defensive play. I was expecting something more than a few townreads from your iso dives. This one is a bit lazier considering I flip flopped on it too, but Zito was the first person to suggest that Drixx was a vig kill before turning on him.

I see lynching the mod as a waste of our time when we still need to remove the lurkers.
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Post Post #3770 (isolation #280) » Sun Jul 24, 2016 8:22 pm

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The Mirhood was unlocked late the first night it was available, so I'm not going to write off Zito thinking our hood was perma locked right away.

Mass claiming is the right idea, Equis Zahhak, Town STRONGman. Don't twie me,
I've only killed one townie.


I don't think Zito was role fishing really at any point this game.
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Post Post #3774 (isolation #281) » Sun Jul 24, 2016 8:58 pm

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Lynching me for flavor would be silly.
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Post Post #3777 (isolation #282) » Sun Jul 24, 2016 10:33 pm

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She just made a blind association of something my character could hypothetically do with the scum kill. The game is still stfu. Weren't people saying Egbert didn't fit their role?
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Post Post #3851 (isolation #283) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 3:59 pm

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In post 3847, Cheery Dog wrote:
In post 3820, Papa Zito wrote:@Rach
In post 1994, Cephrir wrote:
DeathNote has been lynched Day 2.


Spoiler:
Vriska SerketImage

AG: Tavros, let me let you in on a little secret a8out the lore of your land.
AG: It's 8oring!!!!!!!!

AT: }:o

AG: The minds of your consorts are very soft and impressiona8le.
AG: As easily manipul8ed as all those imps you've 8een 8ossing around.
AG: I have picked apart their tiny little lizard 8rains and seen through all the smoke and mirrors of their riddles.
AG: I have gotten to the truth they are guarding. The great 8ig mystery 8ehind this planet. And you know what it is, Tavros?

AT: nO,

AG: It's 8ullshit!
AG: Meaningless, 8oring, fanciful 8ullshit wrapped in flowery poems to keep you guessing.
AG: It all leads to one thing anyway, and that's what we should put our attention on.
AG: Real gamers cut to the chase. They power through all the nonsense and go for the gold.
AG: They cheat, Tavros.
AG: It is time you learned to start cheating.


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DeathNote
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In addition to the ability to post and vote for a lynch during the day, your abilities are as follows:

8LUH 8LUH (active, night, eight-shot, manipulative, compulsive)
: You are always interfering in the plans of both your friends and your enemies for your own purposes. Each night, you
must
use your mind-controlling power to redirect a player of your choosing to another. This changes any targeted night action(s) they used such that their target is now the target you chose. You can only do this eight times. In the case of abilities with multiple targets, you alter only the first target.
Fluorite Octet (active, night, item, miscellaneous)
: You possess a set of eight eight-sided dice that amplifies your ridiculously good luck. While you possess the Octet, any luck-based abilities (such as a Faith Healer) used on you will work out in your favor. Whoever possesses the Octet gains this bonus. At night, you may give it to another player, losing them and this power yourself. Giving away the Octet does not consume your night action.

You win when all threats to the town are eliminated.
Did we somehow determine that this wasn't your bus driver.
All we know is actions targeting bro and Narna got switched. Also DN was roleblocked.
But if he's still around,
@Creature
, can you find out who death note attempted to target night 1?
It was actions between Punch and I n1.
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Post Post #3854 (isolation #284) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 4:31 pm

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It'd be cool if Creature could confirm dn's night 1 target.
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Post Post #3856 (isolation #285) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 4:43 pm

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Mirhawk was redirected after dn died though, so I still think the bus driver is a thing.
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Post Post #3860 (isolation #286) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 5:14 pm

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Why would he lie about his neighborhood target being redirected?
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Post Post #3883 (isolation #287) » Tue Jul 26, 2016 9:23 am

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Is Snarky going to claim?
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Post Post #3891 (isolation #288) » Tue Jul 26, 2016 10:01 am

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In post 3880, Egg wrote:
In post 3869, MafiaSSK wrote:
In post 3863, Egg wrote:SSK, remind me who you targeted each night please
Why? Do you think I'm scum now?
Nope. I'm trying to keep it straight because these missing kills might mean you've successfully protected. As we get more info, we might be able to consider some of your targets confirmed town.
The people alive who have received ssk's protection are me, Caira, Klingon, and
Egg
(scum got a kill through the night you were protected).
PeregrineV wrote:I started workiong on this, but I don;t have time to dig.

Egg- mass neighborizer claim (n1-all (fail) n2- all (fail), n3- Bro, ssk, Narna
Kling- Watcher (n1- Caira (visited by Egg, Kling, ???) (n2-blocked?? No result??) (n3-Pap Zito visited by Mirhawk)(n5-Edgelords, visit by TWIE) (n6-Shaddoweh, no visitors)
Shadow- egg visited everyone n2 (in neighborhood with ????)
Hebi- Kingmaker (gave to punch n1)
Cheery Dog- double vote giver(n1-????)(n2-????)(n3-Piggy)(n5-Pap Zito) (N6-Egg)
Shiro- Hardboiled cop (n3? rach)(n6 gets innocent)
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Post Post #3892 (isolation #289) » Tue Jul 26, 2016 10:02 am

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Rach also got protected
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Post Post #3898 (isolation #290) » Tue Jul 26, 2016 10:13 am

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In post 3895, PeregrineV wrote:Egg- mass neighborizer claim (n1-all (fail) n2- all (fail), n3- Bro, ssk, Narna, n4-NA, N5-????, n6-????
Kling- Watcher (n1- Caira (visited by Egg, Kling, ???) (n2-blocked?? No result??) (n3-Pap Zito visited by Mirhawk) (n4-NA) (n5-Edgelords, visit by TWIE) (n6-Shaddoweh, no visitors)
Shadow- egg visited everyone n2 (in neighborhood with ????)
Hebi- Kingmaker (gave to Narna and was driven to Punch n1)
Cheery Dog- double vote giver(n1-????)(n2-????)(n3-Piggy)(n4-NA)(n5-Pap Zito) (N6-Egg)
Shiro-hardboiled cop (n3? Rach) (n6 gets innocent)
Rach-(N1 I jailed Punch but he and Narna were bus driven so I ended up jailing Narna instead.) (N2 I jailed Shiro)(N3 there was no night due to lynching Bro)(N4 I jailed Fire)(N5 I jailed Mirhawk at the request of Kiing when the two of us had our love fest night)(N6 I jailed Snarky)
SSK- (N1- Narna/Caira) (n2- Narna/Egg)(n3-Narna/Caira)(n4-skipped)(N5-Rach/Kling) (n6-???/???)
Narna- Town strongman (a whole lot of nothing)
PeregrineV wrote:So actions on Punch n1 were re-directed to Narna?

And we know scum did it since Deathnote was blocked by creature.??
Hebi was redirected from me to punch that night too.
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Post Post #3899 (isolation #291) » Tue Jul 26, 2016 10:16 am

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oh shit ssk n1 was Narna/fb
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Post Post #3902 (isolation #292) » Tue Jul 26, 2016 10:28 am

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Rach jailed fire and stole his vote night 3.
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Post Post #3908 (isolation #293) » Tue Jul 26, 2016 11:50 am

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fullclaim
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Post Post #3910 (isolation #294) » Tue Jul 26, 2016 12:05 pm

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It's hard to have you address lurking, which seems like the main reason you're at L-1. At least you vote every phase unlike the other two lurkers. I think it's easier to sort out some fakeclaims at this point than having vague back and forth.
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Post Post #3911 (isolation #295) » Tue Jul 26, 2016 12:58 pm

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In post 3905, PeregrineV wrote:Most current I think
Egg- mass neighborizer (N1: all (failed)(N2: all (failed)(N3: SSK, Narna, BRO)(N4: skipped)(N5: shadow, hebichan, thewayitends, rach, creature)(N6: no action)
Kling- Watcher (n1- Caira (visited by Egg, Kling, ???) (n2-failed/blocked) (n3-Zito visited by Mirhawk) (n4-NA) (n5-Edgelords, visit by TWIE) (n6-Shaddoweh, no visitors)
Shadow- ??? (egg visited everyone n2)
Hebi- Kingmaker (gave to Narna and was driven to Punch n1)
Cheery Dog- double vote giver(n1-????)(n2-????)(n3-Piggy)(n4-NA)(n5-Zito) (N6-Egg)
Shiro-hardboiled cop??? (n3? Rach) (n6 gets innocent)
Rach- Jailkeeper (N1 punch > Narna.) (N2 Shiro)(N3 jails and vote steals Fire)(N4- NA)(N5 Mirhawk)(N6 Snarky)
SSK- love doctor (N1- Narna/Firebringer) (n2- Narna/Egg)(n3-Narna/Caira)(n4-skipped)(N5-Rach/Kling) (n6-???/???)
Narna- Town strongman (a whole lot of nothing)
Mirhawk- ??? (neighborized himself, Zito, and Edgelords but ended up with Narna instead of Edge n3)
Caira- ??? (Townie baring bastard shenanigans)
PV- World splitter?
Zito- hider?
Snarky- ???
Updated to include everyone.
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Post Post #3912 (isolation #296) » Tue Jul 26, 2016 1:00 pm

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The large hood members should be able to verify the Caira bit.
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Post Post #3915 (isolation #297) » Tue Jul 26, 2016 1:34 pm

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Yeah fuck that.

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SSKNepeta LeijonTown Bond GuruNarna/FirebringerNarna/EggNarna/CairaSkippedRach/KingNarna/Kling
NarnaEquius ZahhakTown STRONGmanNANANANANANA
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Post Post #3918 (isolation #298) » Tue Jul 26, 2016 1:45 pm

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Why was Zito saying snarky hinted at an investigative role?

The wiki is titled ms paint adventures, so it's probably related to the story.

I don't think he implied he was the reason there have been so few kills. Why do you have to spin it like that?
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Post Post #3925 (isolation #299) » Tue Jul 26, 2016 2:07 pm

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RachMarie wrote:NK immune

I still think he is scum
It is a shitty claim for a lurker sure, but everyone knows scum wouldn't shoot snarky, and he didn't say that they did.
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Post Post #3931 (isolation #300) » Tue Jul 26, 2016 3:17 pm

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Reads list

Town

Klingon, Hebi, Shadoweh, Caira

Hebi kingmakering both punch and I seems like something scum wouldn't have done given we both wanted to lynch Nash day1/2. Given Klingon has known the protection targets the past two nights, she's probably town unless scum is trolling us. Shadoweh's role might not be alignment indicative, but it would be a pretty weak scum role and the info has been used to help town piece the game together.

Town lean

Cherry Dog, SSK, Mirhawk, Rach

ssk and rach should be dead by now, that's about it. Cherry dog has looked pretty protown, and compulsive doublevote giver seems like a hilarious scum role that wouldn't fit a game with strong town roles like the love guru. Mirhawk could be completely fucking with me, but his posts have been agreeable when he does make them. Do any of these flavor claims match who you can confirm Mirhawk?

--I'm super down to lynch below this line--
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Egg, Shiro, pv, Snarky

I wouldn't be surprised if any of the lurkers are scum, but unfortunately townies lurk often enough that I can't call this a scum category. Egg's hood probably has scum in it, but the only people I'm really unsure of are Egg and Rach.

Scumlean

Zito

VCA doesn't look so hot for him, but Zito is mostly here due to poe.
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Post Post #3936 (isolation #301) » Tue Jul 26, 2016 3:52 pm

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He can listen in on and influence the group of people who typically end up taking over the town. The list is ordered, so he is close to the townlean spot. This is supposedly a bastard game yo. N1 evidence shows that scum wanted punch dead, but the only scum kill of the game went down egg's one night of protection. I'm being cautious about it I guess.
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Post Post #3954 (isolation #302) » Tue Jul 26, 2016 5:01 pm

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In post 3946, Cheery Dog wrote:@narna, my role isn't compulsive. Not that me confirming that changes anything, but don't let fake facts happen.
I brought up compulsive because the only way double vote giver would be a scum role would be if they had to use it, and couldn't give it to scum.

My b, I'm bugged out.

Egg is the mayor of the fruity ahole factory
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Post Post #3969 (isolation #303) » Wed Jul 27, 2016 7:46 am

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In post 3964, Mirhawk wrote:Kling should have seen either me or the busdriver.

I don't think she's lying though.

Discuss.
We can't trust the watcher results wew

You sure you don't have some kind of ninja modifier?
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Post Post #3970 (isolation #304) » Wed Jul 27, 2016 7:48 am

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There is a chance the the bus driver was x-shot and scum still has a redirect.
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Post Post #4002 (isolation #305) » Wed Jul 27, 2016 7:29 pm

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In post 3966, MafiaSSK wrote:
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EggKarkat VantasTown Mass NeighborizerAllAllSSK, Narna, BroSkippedShadow, hebi, TWIE, Rach, CreatureNone
KlingRose LalondeTown Stoic SeerCaira who was visited by Egg and KlingNarna but got roleblockedPapa Zito visited by MirhawkSkippedEdgelords visited by TWIEShadoweh who was visited by no one
ShadowehMituna CaptorTown Insightful SavantM Targeted ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ
HebiFeferi PeixesTown EmpressKinged Narna->Punch
Cheery DogDirk StriderTown MagnifierVanillaised firebringerhebichan (dv)piggygal-Papa ZitoEgg
ShiroJane CrockerTown Hard Bioled InvestigatorInvestigated Kling, failedInvestigated Kling, failedStarted investigating RachSkipRach pt 2Rach pt 3, Rach is town!
RachKankri VantasImpassioned SpeakerPunch->NarnaShiroJails and vote steals FireSkippedMirhawkSnarky
SSKNepeta LeijonTown Bond GuruNarna/FirebringerNarna/EggNarna/CairaSkippedRach/KingNarna/Kling
NarnaEquius ZahhakTown STRONGmanNANANANANANA
MirhawkEridan AmporaTown Third WheelTargeted Bro, no resultNeighborhood Edgelords and ZitoNeighborhood Edgelords and Zito, resulted in hood with Narna and ZitoSkipTargeted Shadow, roleblockedTargeted Shadoweh, negative result
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PereVJade HarleyWorld Splitter?Derse/Prospit-----
Papa ZitoAranea SerketTown Meddlesome SpiritNANANANANANA
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Post Post #4022 (isolation #306) » Thu Jul 28, 2016 9:24 am

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In post 4004, Creature wrote:Egg, did you target SSK, BRO and
Narna
or SSK, BRO and
Edgelords
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Narna, how do you know Caira's role?
Post #37 in the Egg hood. It still hasn't been claimed.
PeregrineV wrote:@Narna- what is a town strongman, as in what is the point of the role?
Any kills I make ignore protection and roleblocks, but I don't have a night action. I also like horses, neigh.

The thing that makes me hesitant to hammer Snarky is that the other question marks of the game are at the front of his wagon.
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Post Post #4026 (isolation #307) » Thu Jul 28, 2016 9:34 am

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uhh, misquoting?

Mirhawk told Zito and I he targeted edgelords and Zito. Egg just confirmed he targeted me last page.
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Post Post #4028 (isolation #308) » Thu Jul 28, 2016 9:50 am

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In post 4025, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 4022, Narna wrote:
In post 4004, Creature wrote:Egg, did you target SSK, BRO and
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or SSK, BRO and
Edgelords
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Narna, how do you know Caira's role?
Post #37 in the Egg hood. It still hasn't been claimed.
PeregrineV wrote:@Narna- what is a town strongman, as in what is the point of the role?
Any kills I make ignore protection and roleblocks, but I don't have a night action. I also like horses, neigh.
That sounds like saying your a a double voter but your second vote always cancels out your first vote.

Whats your flavor behind it?
This is what I meant by misquoting. I don't know how you got here.
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Post Post #4030 (isolation #309) » Thu Jul 28, 2016 9:58 am

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the flavor is the all cap STRONG since my character apparently types like that. Town STRONGman. I have a passive that says I like horses, and drixx dropped a robot gift horse when he died. I'm thinking that would have enabled me to kill.
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Post Post #4031 (isolation #310) » Thu Jul 28, 2016 10:01 am

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The strongman passive is called Ruffiannihilator
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Post Post #4035 (isolation #311) » Thu Jul 28, 2016 10:31 am

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In post 4033, PeregrineV wrote: Any idea why one went through and one did not?
The bus driver is x-shot and scum has a redirector? They could have redirected Kling last night too. It's unlikely because scum could have chosen much better redirects, so it's got me stumped.
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Post Post #4038 (isolation #312) » Thu Jul 28, 2016 10:44 am

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idk, that (wonk) was quite game changing.
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Post Post #4039 (isolation #313) » Thu Jul 28, 2016 10:48 am

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I forgot that meant n4 was skipped, kill me.
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Post Post #4046 (isolation #314) » Thu Jul 28, 2016 12:12 pm

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Yee ssk gets it.

Snarky, do you have any other abilities than nk immune? Does the nk immune have a flavor name?
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Post Post #4047 (isolation #315) » Thu Jul 28, 2016 12:54 pm

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VOTE: Shiro

Fuck Jane (waiting for snarky's reads/response)

PV, do you think it's weird that ssk hasn't been getting roleblocked or killed yet? Bro even flipped a role blocking power.
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Post Post #4048 (isolation #316) » Thu Jul 28, 2016 12:58 pm

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What happened to the scum kill n3 if ssk's protection was blocked and Rach jailed fb?
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Post Post #4050 (isolation #317) » Thu Jul 28, 2016 3:16 pm

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It's also weird to think that scum would role block kling n2 with ssk's claim out in the open.
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Post Post #4079 (isolation #318) » Sun Jul 31, 2016 5:57 pm

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Well Rach did confirm where our protection was in the hood.
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Post Post #4081 (isolation #319) » Sun Jul 31, 2016 6:09 pm

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Rach/kling were confirmed loverized, and the jailkeep wasn't confirmed, but forgotten ;-;
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Post Post #4083 (isolation #320) » Sun Jul 31, 2016 6:43 pm

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What did pv do that was so townie everyone sheeped Shiro and Zito yesterday?
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Post Post #4087 (isolation #321) » Sun Jul 31, 2016 7:56 pm

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I mean the day went from
PeregrineV 6 (Mirhawk, MafiaSSK, Caira, Narna, hebichan, RachMarie)
SnarkySnowman 3 (Cheery Dog, Shiro, Papa Zito)
to
SnarkySnowman 8 (Cheery Dog, Shiro, Papa Zito, PeregrineV, RachMarie, Shadoweh, hebichan, Egg)
The votes were all made without any comment on Snarky aside from the lynch all lurker implication. baaaaa
Egg wrote:Came back from V/LA.
He's been lurking for two months. His 9 day vla streak doesn't invalidate that. All pv did was try to catch up in the thread, and when he finally seems caught up and ready for discussion, you hammered. I feel like I'm just venting at this point.
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Post Post #4088 (isolation #322) » Sun Jul 31, 2016 8:10 pm

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Shiro, does your role mention having a chance to fail like it did on the first few nights? Also, does the night you use your action count as a night toward your investigation?
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Post Post #4090 (isolation #323) » Sun Jul 31, 2016 9:13 pm

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It's because of n4 being skipped shenanigans

Spoiler: Shiro Actions
In post 3961, Shiro wrote:if you want to add me guys

Jane crocker

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N1 I attempted to start investigating kling but failed

N2 I attempted to start investigting Kling but failed

N3 I started investigating Rach

N4 I continued


N5 I continued

M6 I continued and at day start I got my results of Rach is town

I guess now I'm trying to figure out if you were roleblocked night 1 for almost no reason.
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Post Post #4092 (isolation #324) » Sun Jul 31, 2016 9:30 pm

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So I don't get why scum would roleblock you at all with ssk's claim up in the air. However on the flip side, I don't see why scum would lie about being roleblocked when their claim doesn't require it.

Given the amount of missed kills, I guess I'd buy scum not knowing what to do with their night actions.
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Post Post #4130 (isolation #325) » Mon Aug 01, 2016 6:35 pm

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Masons usually don't have active abilities.
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Post Post #4164 (isolation #326) » Wed Aug 03, 2016 12:44 am

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In post 4159, Klingoncelt wrote:
In post 4126, RachMarie wrote:so any idea who tried to manipulate you?>
Yeah. I was protected last night.
Protection is not necessarily a manipulative action.

I'm not so sure about loverizing and whatever Mirhawk actually did though.
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Post Post #4255 (isolation #327) » Wed Aug 03, 2016 12:04 pm

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In post 4239, Papa Zito wrote:
In post 4217, PeregrineV wrote: You should probably dedicate zero resources to defending yourself, since only scum is interested in lynching you at this point.

Spend that juice figuring the last three instead.
???????????????????????????????
I think you need to address this post pv.
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Post Post #4257 (isolation #328) » Wed Aug 03, 2016 12:08 pm

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He posted after it and ignored you.
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Post Post #4259 (isolation #329) » Wed Aug 03, 2016 12:29 pm

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Kling just got an accurate result after not seeing Mirhawk visit the same person she did n6. I'm more comfortable with lynching the scumslip at this point, but it's definitely shady.
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Post Post #4262 (isolation #330) » Wed Aug 03, 2016 12:58 pm

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In post 4260, Papa Zito wrote:oh right
I should have put your quote below my post to be more clear.

I think it interesting that Cherry has switched his target every night with zero repeats. On top of that, they haven't given me their blessing yet </3
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Post Post #4264 (isolation #331) » Wed Aug 03, 2016 5:04 pm

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Cmon Rach, don't be lazy

VOTE: PV
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Post Post #4273 (isolation #332) » Wed Aug 03, 2016 5:54 pm

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From a townie's perspective, what is the point of stating the amount of scum as a matter of fact, if you're just making an assumption?
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Post Post #4283 (isolation #333) » Wed Aug 03, 2016 7:54 pm

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You're telling me that scum pv doesn't make less than 60 posts over 6 in game days of play and then doubles his post count once the spotlight is on lurkers? I'm just confirming this for science.
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Post Post #4285 (isolation #334) » Wed Aug 03, 2016 8:19 pm

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Who are you scumreading then shiro?
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Post Post #4290 (isolation #335) » Wed Aug 03, 2016 9:18 pm

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In post 4289, Caira wrote:Even tho there's this great grid of amazingness that you all worship, it's important to not forget that we literally caught scum because of their behaviors early on in the game without needing this. Don't forget who treated Nash with kid gloves, k?

That whole post on the end of D1 vote count probably is the key to getting the last scums.

Pere is still maf.
I agree that pv is very likely maf, but it is a bastard game. Alignments can [redacted] yeah? I think we haven't looked enough at later phases actually.
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Post Post #4305 (isolation #336) » Thu Aug 04, 2016 7:49 am

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I don't see any purpose in not claiming at this point Caira.
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Post Post #4321 (isolation #337) » Thu Aug 04, 2016 12:20 pm

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In post 4319, Shadoweh wrote:I'm not saying you're a team. He has an innocent on you, any conversation suspecting you has to assume Shiro is lying.
The innocent could be a false result.
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Post Post #4337 (isolation #338) » Fri Aug 05, 2016 10:27 am

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You seriously think I'm scum with a hider inno, being a bus driver target n1, having loverizer protection 3 of the nights with missed scum kills, being seen taking no night action, and pushing for Nash the lynch d2/3? Hebi said that she'd be willing to go against all of that because my character could potentially janitor kills, but the scum kill wasn't jan'd this time. If I had to guess, the [redacted] from Punch's flip was from something happening to the mason after his death or it just named the other mason. Creature should ask Punch about the rest of his flip if he can.
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Post Post #4340 (isolation #339) » Fri Aug 05, 2016 11:01 am

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Spoiler:
In post 2973, Firebringer wrote:My role pm was basically like I am a 1 shot hider, so I decided to pretend vigi, and crumb who I was hiding behind in case I died, it was pretty obvious who I hid behind. That was my "crumb"
In post 1857, Firebringer wrote:
In post 1855, PUNCHPABLITOINTHEFACE wrote:fire gets policy'd tomorrow for this.
Eat me. You are dying tonight, i am a vigi.

Punch and I were bus driven, so fb hides behind Punch > Narna.

I'm pretty sure Caira is the mason pv.
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Post Post #4344 (isolation #340) » Fri Aug 05, 2016 11:44 am

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Caira should claim what was redacted from Punch's flip, and we can cross reference it with Punch/Creature after.
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Post Post #4345 (isolation #341) » Fri Aug 05, 2016 12:01 pm

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Caira has a vote somewhere on the pv wagon. I'm too lazy to find out where, sorry Ceph.
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Post Post #4349 (isolation #342) » Fri Aug 05, 2016 12:22 pm

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Shadoweh shows her true scummy colors at last.
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Post Post #4351 (isolation #343) » Fri Aug 05, 2016 3:43 pm

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That pun was a little too played out, shade master.

On a serious note, that last post by klingon seemed like she hinted at having a wand. I think that needs to be cleared up before committing to mir.
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Post Post #4361 (isolation #344) » Fri Aug 05, 2016 11:51 pm

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In post 4356, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 4340, Narna wrote:
Spoiler:
In post 2973, Firebringer wrote:My role pm was basically like I am a 1 shot hider, so I decided to pretend vigi, and crumb who I was hiding behind in case I died, it was pretty obvious who I hid behind. That was my "crumb"
In post 1857, Firebringer wrote:
In post 1855, PUNCHPABLITOINTHEFACE wrote:fire gets policy'd tomorrow for this.
Eat me. You are dying tonight, i am a vigi.

Punch and I were bus driven, so fb hides behind Punch > Narna.

I'm pretty sure Caira is the mason pv.
Then how did punch end up with King ability?
Hebi kingmaker'd me n1, and it went to Punch.
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Post Post #4362 (isolation #345) » Sat Aug 06, 2016 12:08 am

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In post 4352, Klingoncelt wrote:
In post 4327, Mirhawk wrote::roll:
I've stated exactly how it works, if your role PM says you have a wand why are you surprised I found one.
My role PM does NOT say I have one.

The FLAVOR attached to my role PM says something about flying around with wands and a salamander.

Please link to the post where you define your role, I couldn't find it in ISO, and I don't have time to search for it right now.

As yet no one has explained why you were invisible to two Watchers Nights 6 and 7.
I don't think Shadoweh got watcher info from you last night. She just got notified that you were manipulated. As for n6,
In post 4035, Narna wrote:
In post 4033, PeregrineV wrote: Any idea why one went through and one did not?
The bus driver is x-shot and scum has a redirector? They could have redirected Kling last night too. It's unlikely because scum could have chosen much better redirects, so it's got me stumped.
I still think it's flimsy, but it is a possibility.
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Post Post #4363 (isolation #346) » Sat Aug 06, 2016 12:26 am

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In post 4359, Klingoncelt wrote: I'm very busy. I didn't see anything that said you could read flavor claims and turn invisible.

Explain your role.
He can make a 3man hood with himself, but it fails the first night he uses it. Allegedly he knows that this person with a wand is town (if they are even in the game). It's really unfortunate for Mirhawk that he didn't bring up the wand specifically before the massclaim though. He could have used the flavor knowledge to improve his fakeclaim.
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Post Post #4364 (isolation #347) » Sat Aug 06, 2016 12:30 am

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Before the mass claim Mirhawk used "item" in place of "wand".
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Post Post #4370 (isolation #348) » Sat Aug 06, 2016 3:13 am

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"Caira you can't trust Punch!"

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Post Post #4374 (isolation #349) » Sat Aug 06, 2016 6:43 am

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Pv, Zito, Egg, Mirhawk, Shiro, Shadoweh, SSK and
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Cdog.

I'm feeling lazy, but I'll do some digging at some point to try and narrow it down. The rest are near confirmed town in my book for now.
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Post Post #4384 (isolation #350) » Sat Aug 06, 2016 8:29 pm

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Cmon, I feel like we've discussed n1 bus driver shenanigans every day since d2. This is pointless.

Very likely order of operations:
-scum decides to kill Punch for spearheading the Nash flashwagon.
-To get around ssk's protection they drive punch and someone they think ssk wouldn't protect (I tunneled him most of that phase).
-Unexpectedly, ssk protected fb and I instead, and they drive the kill along with ssk's protection to Punch.
-Rach jails punch, and I get the message from it (I bring it up in Derse).
-Hebi kingmakers me, and punch becomes king.
-Fb targets punch and is presumably redirected to me. Fb's flip mentions that kill actions on his target are the only things that effect him, so he didn't get jailed or receive a message.
PeregrineV wrote:If someone targeted Punch and Narna to switch them, why was this not seen by Shadow the Overwatcher?
Because her night 1 result was supposedly Caira has no active abilities. I'm pretty sure her actions have been given to you at least once.
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Post Post #4386 (isolation #351) » Sun Aug 07, 2016 2:27 am

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Time for some reaching. I really don't like that the only counterwagon to prevail against a 6+ person wagon this whole game (at least past few phases) was when pv was on the chopping block. The wagon is also stalling the day after. It reminds me of Nash surviving at L-1 and going into d2. I also believe most of the sheep on the counterwagon are unfortunately town. If scum were to have fueled the counterwagon at all, they would have had to be at the front.
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Votecount 7.1

PeregrineV 6 (Mirhawk, MafiaSSK, Caira, Narna, hebichan, RachMarie)

SnarkySnowman 2 (
Cheery Dog, Shiro
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Cephrir 1 (Klingoncelt)
Caira 1 (Egg)

Not Voting 4 (Papa Zito, SnarkySnowman, PeregrineV, Shadoweh)

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.

Also notice Shiro is not following his inno to pv despite using that as an excuse to hop on Snarky in the first place
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In post 3592, Shiro wrote:
Vote:Snarky


I am going to follow my conf town
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In post 3561, Cheery Dog wrote:I disagree with you guys decision making in the TWIE lynch. He was horrible in reacting to the pressure, but for obviously good reasons.

I've been lazy, so I haven't actually gone back and looked yet, but I'm interested in looking at the people that were wanting to give TWIE a free pass Day 1, because that's where the problems with him started.
This is a little dated, but why did you give Zito a double vote if you didn't agree with lynching the vig if twie shot out of the pool when Zito said he would?
In post 3930, Cheery Dog wrote:Because of his claim to want to vig punch.
In post 3104, Cheery Dog wrote:But since I've mentioned it enough, in case we do lynch fire or not or something, I removed any active ability fire used Night 1.
This was due to him claiming to want to vig punch and that being a horrible idea, he couldn't be trusted to not go after someone else stupid if he was indeed a vig. If he hadn't claimed like that, then I'd probably have never used that ability.
First, there's the obvious anti town nature of removing players' actives. Second, Cheery used it to hose a vig claim n1 because they couldn't be trusted. Yet they are against lynching a vig who has proven themselves untrustworthy on d6. Cdog seems inconstant here.
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Post Post #4392 (isolation #352) » Sun Aug 07, 2016 12:22 pm

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Yeah those questions were freebies. I think twie was lynched by almost all town, if not all. So I could probably assume you had no good townreads who wouldn't have gone along with the lynch.

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In post 4386, Narna wrote:Also notice Shiro is not following his inno to pv despite using that as an excuse to hop on Snarky in the first place
Yup, I forgot to :p

I mean, I think have said numerous times That I an not particularly invested
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Does anyone else dislike Egg vanity wagoning Caira days 6 and 7? We figured Caira for mason in his neighborhood night 6.
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Post Post #4393 (isolation #353) » Sun Aug 07, 2016 12:26 pm

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In post 4392, Narna wrote:Yeah those questions were freebies. I think twie was lynched by almost all town, if not all. So I could probably assume you had no good townreads who wouldn't have gone along with the lynch.
I don't remember Klingon's stance on twie going into d6 though.
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Post Post #4403 (isolation #354) » Sun Aug 07, 2016 7:08 pm

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No one is reading this game.

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Post Post #4407 (isolation #355) » Sun Aug 07, 2016 8:08 pm

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Your nights are all messed up and Shadoweh didn't watch you.
In post 3999, Klingoncelt wrote:
In post 3962, Mirhawk wrote:Eridan Ampora, Town Third Wheel.

Night one targeted Brosiden, no result.

Nights two and three Targeted Zito and Edgelords with Neighborizing ability. It automatically fails the first time I use it. Ended up with Narna instead of Edgelords night three.

Night Four was a no-go

Night Five targeted Shadoweh but was roleblocked

Night Six Targeted Shadoweh, got negative result.

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Yeah I know who I'm visiting at tonight.

Unvote

I'm not really feeling PV anymore
In post 3964, Mirhawk wrote:Kling should have seen either me or the busdriver.

I don't think she's lying though.

Discuss.
I saw you visit Zito Night 3.

I should have seen you target Shadow Night 6. This does not compute.

I agree that Mirhawk has a flimsy claim. I don't feel comfortable following Cheery and Shadoweh onto that at the moment though. Pv was saved by a counterwagon that flipped town and scumslipped today. The penpal claim is silly since this game has hydras.
Egg wrote:Didn't know anything about the mason stuff
It's on page 2 of your own neighborhood. Why would you not read at least that far?
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Post Post #4420 (isolation #356) » Mon Aug 08, 2016 11:03 am

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In post 4414, PeregrineV wrote:Note: I see where he is coming from. I don't feel it as strongly, but why bring on a consultant if your going to ignore them? :wink:

But seriously, Mirhawks presentation of his wand information doesn't make sense form a scum perspective. If he were scum, it should be accompanied by an accusation or some attempt to get Klingon mislynched. Instead, it was presented for discussion. And Klingon's denial and not thinking Mirhawk was scum right away doesn't seem like a town reaction.

Anyways, that's where we're at.
If you believe Mirhawk, his role says klingon is town.
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Post Post #4431 (isolation #357) » Mon Aug 08, 2016 5:14 pm

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Why do you think they would be town Mirhawk?

This is probably pointless, but I would like to see ssk use his doublevote.
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Post Post #4438 (isolation #358) » Mon Aug 08, 2016 5:28 pm

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Mirhawk wrote:
In post 4392, Narna wrote:Does anyone else dislike Egg vanity wagoning Caira days 6 and 7? We figured Caira for mason in his neighborhood night 6.
In light of that it's maybe a little shitty. How confirmed was her claim though? How did you guys figure it out?
Shadoweh gave us her results. Coupling Caira's posting style the first couple of days with not having any active abilities just screams, "I'm Punch's mason." Shadoweh was the only one to comment on it though, she agreed that it was likely.

I was asking why you thought the person with the wand was town.
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Post Post #4440 (isolation #359) » Mon Aug 08, 2016 5:36 pm

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In post 4436, Mirhawk wrote:
In post 4407, Narna wrote:The penpal claim is silly since this game has hydras.
Do we not know who all the players in the hydra's are? Why would this matter?
The power basically just gives him a hydra partner. What's the point of that if you can sign up as a hydra?
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Post Post #4446 (isolation #360) » Mon Aug 08, 2016 6:01 pm

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Any ideas as to how Klingon was manipulated last night? She wasn't roleblocked or redirected.
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Post Post #4460 (isolation #361) » Mon Aug 08, 2016 6:52 pm

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In post 4423, RachMarie wrote:cheery why do you want to lynch the players that have helped keep our death toll down?
A jailkeeper who blocks Punch n1, but doesn't protect him n2 after solo lynching scum, looks like a mafia one.
In post 4448, Klingoncelt wrote:
In post 4410, PeregrineV wrote:Why would Shiro be unsuccessful investigating you? Anything in you role about it?
Shiro's Post :
I was 1 shot hard boiled investigator. I pick a target and 3 night later I learn their alignment (if I am not interrupted through the whole process. If I am, my shot is refunded and I need to start again from scrach(albeit with needing 2 night this time))
Shiro's action list makes it look like he failed the night he investigated you. One of those was Rach jailing, but not the other fail. For some reason I'm reminded of Bro's role that became ascetic whenever using his roleblock. I might be ok lynching this.
N1 I attempted to start investigating kling but failed

N2 I attempted to start investigting Kling but failed

N3 I started investigating Rach

N4 I continued

N5 I continued

M6 I continued and at day start I got my results of Rach is town
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Post Post #4465 (isolation #362) » Mon Aug 08, 2016 7:00 pm

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This could be hindsight, but I feel like Punch is the obvious town watcher target n2 as well.
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Post Post #4466 (isolation #363) » Mon Aug 08, 2016 7:11 pm

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In the neighborhood Mirhawk said he couldn't identify the player, but rather something that only they would be carrying. This was on n6 before the mass claim. I don't think it does much for his claim, but it can't hurt to have it out there.
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Post Post #4469 (isolation #364) » Mon Aug 08, 2016 7:33 pm

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I just ctrl+f'd wand on Rose's wiki
Then she began to do some alchemization. Most significantly, she created a pair of black magic wands, the Thorns of Oglogoth, by combining the needles and a grimoire.
Does Rose carry the Thorns after making them?
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Post Post #4473 (isolation #365) » Mon Aug 08, 2016 8:05 pm

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--This is a flavor post--

I had a small suspicion that Mir was looking for a specific player that he could convert to maf for a while now. I read some more of Rose's wiki page. She seriously goes to doc Scratch and Jade who basically corrupt her with a magic cue ball, and she turns into someone hungry for revenge. Neato.

--avert your eyes--
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Post Post #4476 (isolation #366) » Mon Aug 08, 2016 8:43 pm

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Well we know Doc Scratch is in the game. Was he evil at that point? The wiki says Scratch and Jade urged her to ask a question to the cue ball, and the answer turned her grimdark.

According to Shadow Kling was targeted by a manipulative action last night, and we know that action wasn't a roleblock or redirect because she saw Cheery visit ssk. Changing her alignment could have been that manipulative action.

pedit: So Scratch was evil.
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Post Post #4477 (isolation #367) » Mon Aug 08, 2016 8:44 pm

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fuck I should just refresh my post page whenever I go afk. 14 minute pedit kek.
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Post Post #4481 (isolation #368) » Mon Aug 08, 2016 9:33 pm

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Yeah that's a bit more damaging to the theory. I still think the unknown manipulative action used on Kling is shady, and we shouldn't forget about it down the line.
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Post Post #4531 (isolation #369) » Tue Aug 09, 2016 12:36 pm

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Nash looks like she's panicking in her response to the Mirhawk+Nash accusation
In post 746, Klingoncelt wrote:
In post 716, SHENANIGANS wrote:
In post 704, Klingoncelt wrote:SCUM
Mirhawk - scum, on same team as titus
Nashville Dreams[Titus & Malakittens hydra]
SHENANIGANS[Shiro & Nahdia hydra]

:33< Damn those are some h333vy statements
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ISO Mirhawk. Most of his posts center around him putting his head so far up Titus' butt that he can't see daylight.
In post 750, Nashville Dreams wrote:I don't think that Mirhawk is up my ass at all. That's hogwash. Believing that up ass = scum rather than buddying is also a load of shit. Remember how pissed you were when your buddies bussed you in YCBA IV? That doesn't sound rational for you to believe. Where have you seen people circlejerking and it being scum v scum?

Also, Drixx is indeed sick but most players wouldn't know that. If players did, then scum reading him solely for his absence would be weird. Why post that just as he's returning and giving content to speak about?
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Post Post #4541 (isolation #370) » Tue Aug 09, 2016 1:20 pm

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ssk's power isn't a manipulative action, but I see you.

I've just been asspulling and seeing how people react since post 4386 because the game was stagnating. It's not like I've been shifting my vote or hard pushing for any of these last few pages.

VOTE: Mirhawk Half of his day one is deflecting for Nash, and Nash's "Where have you seen people circlejerking and it being scum v scum?" is clearly a tell. It's just like her "When have you seen the largest wagon from a no lynch day be scum?"

ssk would be a spicy lynch too. I'm kind of getting townreads from pv at the moment, but I feel horrible ignoring that slip.
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Post Post #4542 (isolation #371) » Tue Aug 09, 2016 1:20 pm

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wtf where did the quotes go
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Post Post #4543 (isolation #372) » Tue Aug 09, 2016 1:24 pm

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It was in a different tab.
In post 4536, Klingoncelt wrote:
In post 4476, Narna wrote:Well we know Doc Scratch is in the game. Was he evil at that point? The wiki says Scratch and Jade urged her to ask a question to the cue ball, and the answer turned her grimdark.

According to Shadow Kling was targeted by a manipulative action last night, and we know that action wasn't a roleblock or redirect because she saw Cheery visit ssk. Changing her alignment could have been that manipulative action.

pedit: So Scratch was evil.
GODDAMMIT, READ THE FUCKING GAME.

I already posted what the action was.
ssk's power isn't a manipulative action, but I see you.
In post 4537, Klingoncelt wrote:You sure are making a lot of posts about the story.
'It's nice, but i no way helping to solve the game.

More like you're trying to distract us with fluff.

You and Narna are partners with Mirhawk.

Yep.
I've just been asspulling and seeing how people react since post 4386 because the game was stagnating. It's not like I've been shifting my vote or hard pushing for any of these last few pages.

VOTE: Mirhawk Half of his day one is deflecting for Nash, and Nash's "Where have you seen people circlejerking and it being scum v scum?" is clearly a tell. It's just like her "When have you seen the largest wagon from a no lynch day be scum?"
In post 4528, Papa Zito wrote:Scum clearly interested in the Edgelords wagon. I need to reread that section of Day 1 to see if it was an SSK counterwagon. sigh
ssk would be a spicy lynch too. I'm kind of getting townreads from pv at the moment, but I feel horrible ignoring that slip.
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Post Post #4578 (isolation #373) » Wed Aug 10, 2016 8:12 am

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UNVOTE:
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Post Post #4583 (isolation #374) » Wed Aug 10, 2016 7:31 pm

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Papa Zito wrote:I'm sorry, I meant
uH,
oK,

VOTE: Zito He's a safe lynch. Fuck this game.
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Post Post #4584 (isolation #375) » Wed Aug 10, 2016 7:34 pm

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I'm just frustrated at being stumped, fun game still.
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Post Post #4668 (isolation #376) » Sat Aug 13, 2016 10:49 pm

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In post 4558, Papa Zito wrote:uhhhh
In post 4559, Papa Zito wrote:I'm sorry, I meant
uH,
Seriously, what are these posts?
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Post Post #4669 (isolation #377) » Sat Aug 13, 2016 10:50 pm

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In post 4641, MafiaSSK wrote:I still feel Pere is being overly defensive here and the wagon literally always dissipates on him
The wagon dissipates because the holdouts have been screaming mirhawk for two days straight.
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Post Post #4670 (isolation #378) » Sat Aug 13, 2016 10:58 pm

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Cheery has hopped onto all of the "lurkers" except for pv at this point. I don't remember them saying anything about townreading him.
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Post Post #4672 (isolation #379) » Sat Aug 13, 2016 11:36 pm

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In post 4671, Creature wrote:
In post 4666, Caira wrote:Creature the dead probably are playing this game better, just tell me who they want dead
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Are people ready to lynch scum yet?
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Post Post #4707 (isolation #380) » Sun Aug 14, 2016 11:39 am

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VOTE: pv
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Post Post #4750 (isolation #381) » Wed Aug 17, 2016 1:25 pm

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Mirhawk looks super townie in that hood, and looked pretty town yesterday.

I think it's more likely scum tried to kill rach or kling than having mirhawk carry out the kill. I'd be ok with lynching mirhawk to continue the poe, but I'd rather see Shiro or Shadoweh go at the moment.
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Post Post #4752 (isolation #382) » Wed Aug 17, 2016 1:57 pm

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Way to completely ignore the actual reasoning on the second line while berating me for backing up what zito said about the hood no one else is in.

Good thing your power role is much stronger than anything else in this game by a wide margin. Because your pure sheeping looks like bullshit to me.
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Post Post #4818 (isolation #383) » Fri Aug 19, 2016 2:45 pm

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In post 4777, Caira wrote:
In post 4750, Narna wrote:Mirhawk looks super townie in that hood, and looked pretty town yesterday.

I think it's more likely scum tried to kill rach or kling than having mirhawk carry out the kill. I'd be ok with lynching mirhawk to continue the poe, but I'd rather see Shiro or Shadoweh go at the moment.
Narna what you thinking about Mirhawk before the neighborhood? Also is there something you see that shows Mirhawk not connected to bro dram or nash?
I mean I already have to swallow that Zito and Rach aren't connected to Nash despite being against the lynch. I don't recall the dram interaction, but both Shadoweh and Mirhawk were scumleans for me before the hood.

I'm prepared to vote Shadoweh, but I want to hear her result first.
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Post Post #4855 (isolation #384) » Sun Aug 21, 2016 9:03 pm

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Watcher + double doc is beyond broken. Doubledoc alone is beyond broken... Does everyone believe ssk and Kling are town?

VOTE: Shiro I'm still torn between Shiro and Shadoweh, and Mirhawk would be after them in my poe line.
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Post Post #4935 (isolation #385) » Sat Aug 27, 2016 10:13 am

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vote: Shadoweh

what were the bus driver actions scratch? Did it not get around ssk?
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Post Post #4936 (isolation #386) » Sat Aug 27, 2016 10:19 am

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[quote="In post 4927Narna claiming night-immune makes me doubt that would come from scum.[/quote]
I never claimed night immune?
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Post Post #4954 (isolation #387) » Sat Aug 27, 2016 12:02 pm

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In post 4950, TheWayItEnds wrote:no they had to after i shot 2 lurkers and an ability that gets really bad for town if we lose control over it
I just wanted vengeance for the horse gift being lost n1


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Post Post #4962 (isolation #388) » Sat Aug 27, 2016 12:38 pm

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Doubledoc + watcher was insane, but I feel like the game had appropriate countermeasures to deal with it in the strongman godfather and busdriver. I still think the game is town sided with zito's role (votes and dayvigs the day after death) and the jailkeeper though.
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Post Post #4992 (isolation #389) » Sat Aug 27, 2016 6:10 pm

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The "mason" pt is fucking gold.
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Post Post #5001 (isolation #390) » Mon Aug 29, 2016 9:29 pm

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My biggest fear this game was that mirhawk put me in a hood with 2 scum to manipulate the shit out of me. I had a lot of fun ceph, and hit me up if you need players for another bastard game. I was disappointed to see that wasn't a regular thing here.
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Post Post #5002 (isolation #391) » Mon Aug 29, 2016 9:33 pm

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Although, I stand against 3 week deadlines and no scum daytalk. Just my nooby 2 cents.

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