Undertale Mafia: Friends & Corpses [GAME OVER]
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VOTE: Giggles
She didn't vote me, must be scum.-
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VOTE: Creature
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Have you really not rolled mafia yet?In post 10, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:i've never voted you before and i've never not rolled town
your logic is faulty
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My vote is now serious.
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^ This deserves first wagon.-
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I'm pretty sure titles are changed according to post count unless custom titled by the mods.-
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You're not presenting any, either.In post 39, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:Slysly, I don't think that makes any sense, you're not considering a lot of possibilities that can absolutely lead to me having a grapevine to hear things from as town.-
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You think scum wouldn't already deduce such things from the fact they already know you're not in their PT?In post 46, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:
Neighborhoods, having friends to talk to via PMs, mixing up other large thread themes where people discuss someone's alt status...In post 44, House wrote:
You're not presenting any, either.In post 39, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:Slysly, I don't think that makes any sense, you're not considering a lot of possibilities that can absolutely lead to me having a grapevine to hear things from as town.
I think listing those possibilities could lead to people deducing things they shouldn't, but since you asked.
You think town wouldn't already consider a neighborhood an option is they consider a scum PT an option?
VOTE: Giggles
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Please for the love of mafia gods tell me you're trolling.In post 48, SlySly wrote:
Here's what I'm considering.In post 39, gigabyteTroubadour wrote: Slysly, I don't think that makes any sense, you're not considering a lot of possibilities that can absolutely lead to me having a grapevine to hear things from as town.
1. My role PM has no mention of ANY grapevines.
If yours does have something about "grapevine(s)" my initial thought is you are scum.-
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VOTE: SlySly
Unless he's trolling, he's terribad scum.-
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I think he's hardcore fishing in a way even bad town wouldn't right out of the gate.In post 64, Not Chara wrote:why not terribad town? he would probably be like this as town as well.
unless something indicates to you that he's faking ignorance, but you haven't mentioned anything like that.
Sure, I asked for alternatives to a scum PT for the grapevine (sorta), but it was an open ended request that left options for not forcing a claim.
Sly straight up pushed for a neighbor claim on top of casting shade over a commonly used term for rumor mill.-
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Dude, it's Creature.In post 88, zakk wrote:
Who made it sound like we seriously were? And if nobody, why did you even say this?In post 76, Creature wrote:Okay, we're not flavor claiming.
Get used to it.-
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I might spray battery acid in my eyes after reading your posts (or not).In post 96, Creature wrote:I might eventually join on SlySly (or not).-
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Hi, I'm House.In post 98, zakk wrote:
If you don't want to be lynched after him, you'll join.In post 96, Creature wrote:I might eventually join on SlySly (or not).
UNVOTE:
What are you going to do about it?-
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I'm the one that started the wagon, remember?In post 104, zakk wrote:
Cool story bro. Are you voting SlySly? If not, why not?In post 99, House wrote:
I might spray battery acid in my eyes after reading your posts (or not).In post 96, Creature wrote:I might eventually join on SlySly (or not).
VOTE: zakk
Not even tracking the wagon he's pushing.-
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I don't. He's scum, lynch the bastid.In post 105, SirCakez wrote:zakk is great at faking scumhunting as scum
I wouldn't townread him for that yet-
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ZAKK DIDN'T EVEN KNOW I WAS THE ONE THAT STARTED THE SLY WAGON THAT HE'S PUSHING.
HOW IS THAT TOWN?-
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So he threatened Creature to try to get his vote, and feigned nonchalance in his reply to me?In post 106, zakk wrote:
I'm gonna lynch scum and eat corn flakes. You?In post 103, House wrote:
Hi, I'm House.In post 98, zakk wrote:
If you don't want to be lynched after him, you'll join.In post 96, Creature wrote:I might eventually join on SlySly (or not).
UNVOTE:
What are you going to do about it?-
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I could go for some Patron.In post 116, Blade Dancer wrote:House, I find booze and Xanax help in lynching scum. I don't have Xanax. Care to drink with me?-
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He strikes me as Creature 2.0.In post 120, SirCakez wrote:Say why you think Sly is town first
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Doesn't make it any less true, and you know it.In post 125, SirCakez wrote:brb daycopping shiro
This question wasn't aimed at you plsHouse wrote:
He strikes me as Creature 2.0.In post 120, SirCakez wrote:Say why you think Sly is town first
Now, vote zakk pls kthx.-
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It'sIn post 129, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:House, why is it scummy to forget things in such a large theme? I'm pretty scatterbrained and town myself, so I mean...page six!-
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Also Giggles why do you just swallow the claim as town without sorting the player?In post 129, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:also sly ank has to have the hammer now i guess so i'm going to force you to vote for your scumreads, kthnx-
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This is a scum as fuck catch up.In post 134, Peptobislawl wrote:Well this game is off running, innit?
Sly trying to interpret "grapevine" as "scum PT" is reaching SUPER HARD and reads like trying to build a case out of nothing. I would vote him, but i'm unsure of the count and i don't want to put him at L-1 in 5 seconds of starting.
That makes Giga a townread by way of being a scum target.
Creature's #96 is non commital and i don't like it.
Don't PL the alt, that's dumb.
Null on everyone else, though blade dancer is my current top watched null read. Might need to wait for flips to sort him.
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WHAT THE HELLAnkamius wrote:I forgot about this before because of the delay, butmy role has several different states it can have, and both Miller and Hated are part of those states.
By the same token, my role benefits from being on lynch wagons and hammering, so please be aware of this.-
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I'm leaning towards that as a possibility as well.In post 142, Blade Dancer wrote:
Sly is town because Giga is scum.In post 138, SirCakez wrote:
This is about a scumread though?In post 133, Blade Dancer wrote:
This was for you SirCakez.In post 95, Blade Dancer wrote:
Scared of alts and RVS votes. Probably scum or noob.In post 10, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:i've never voted you before and i've never not rolled town
your logic is faulty
His stance to policy lynch day 1 is also Antitown.
Sad scum had the first two posts of the game.
I want to know why you're townreading Sly, not scumreading whoever this was aimed at.-
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A Giga scum flip will result in me screaming for a Pepto lynch the following day.-
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Duh.In post 152, Blade Dancer wrote:
Far too early to form associative reads. Slow down. Let them be individually scummy.In post 148, House wrote:A Giga scum flip will result in me screaming for a Pepto lynch the following day.
I was already scumreading Pepto for that shade af catch-up.-
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Why? And don't give me no lazy gut bs.In post 160, Blade Dancer wrote:
On the surface I get it, but I just feel in my bones he is not scummy.In post 156, House wrote:
Duh.In post 152, Blade Dancer wrote:
Far too early to form associative reads. Slow down. Let them be individually scummy.In post 148, House wrote:A Giga scum flip will result in me screaming for a Pepto lynch the following day.
I was already scumreading Pepto for that shade af catch-up.
Stuff affects gut reads. Explain please.-
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I don't recall a cautious Giggles being a town Giggles.In post 162, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:
But doesn't it make more sense to enter a game with only 6 pages in by just jumping into the action? It seemed unnecessarily try-hard to just make a catch-up post and give relatively safe opinions, but I don't want to shade your playstyle if you're just like that.In post 161, Peptobislawl wrote:Because I didn't know the game started until 6 pages in.
My email spam filters PM notifications.-
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Sly is Creature 2.0. Pepto casting shade on him is a very convenient way to "blend in with town", with the possible added bonus of supporting a buddy IF Giga is scum but it's scummy regardless of her alignment.In post 167, Not Chara wrote:someone voting them answer: what makes pepto's catch-up really scummy?
That and the general attitude he adopted just doesn't sit well with me.-
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You already know mine.In post 168, zakk wrote:Oh but I need concrete reasons for voting me, from everyone who's voting me, so I can know who to "surprise"
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Creature could easily be lynchbait in a game with people unfamiliar with his playstyle.In post 189, Not Chara wrote:what do you mean by Creature 2.0? you think Creature is a low-hanging fruit lynch? (a guess/assumption on my part)
how do you feel about the other players who voted Sly?
gigabyte: i also didn't get that your call for a PL was a joke.
Sly seems to have a very similar thought process.-
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If you're a meta diver, please take the time to dive Creature.In post 194, Not Chara wrote:i don't know, House. only comparing what i've seen in this game, Creature didn't display any of the weird behaviour Sly did. the two don't look very similar to me.
but, i do understand what you're telling me regarding pepto.-
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That was just as true before I asked you to dive Creature, why didn't you believe me then?In post 198, Not Chara wrote:
House: oooh, boy. no, i am not. but i believe you, lying about a player's meta on purpose is a quick way to get attacked by that player.-
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You should be, because you know I don't let go of a scumread until it swings and I'm starting to get one on you.In post 199, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:I can't tonal-read myself but I can assure you that I'm not at all scared of House. I actually like him a lot.
You're trying to emulate a carefree demeanor that doesn't fit with the current atmosphere. You know damned well I can swing lynches when I dig in, but you're not concerned about me scumreading you?
I suggest you get scared and sell me on why you're not scum, or at the very least give me a better case on someone that convinces me you're not bussing.-
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Based on what, exactly?In post 210, Not Chara wrote:i was scumreading House at the time-
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That explains why he's not bussing.In post 211, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:OK, since I'm voting for Slysly and you want me to explain why I'm not bussing... Do scumpartners usually start their pushes on their own partners by asking leading questions and making them "slip"? I would assume not, because partner!Slysly already knows why I'm scum and doesn't have to "expose" me for it.
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Consider my intent to vote Giggles for realsies at this point if zakk acquits himself.-
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Nah, her response was fine. Considering that response was based on shared history, I think I'd know better whether it was bad or not than a couple jumpy Lucys.In post 217, Not Chara wrote:
gigabyte's reaction to the RVS vote was bad, and Creature voted them for it. you then voted Creature, which i didn't like. that was the basis. i couldn't see the reasoning for scumreading Creature for a perfectly valid push.In post 212, House wrote:
Based on what, exactly?In post 210, Not Chara wrote:i was scumreading House at the time
but you didn't continue pressing that, and your posting has been good, so the scumread faded away. that, and it wad an early push for a read, as Blade said.
I'm scumreading Giga, but not based on anything in RVS.-
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Lawyering is a scum tactic, looking for loopholes to escape suspicion.In post 219, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:House...
If I give reasoning to explain that we are not scum together, that means I can't bus him in the first place because only scum bus.
Doesn't work for me.
I said sell me scum (as in, results in a red flip) that doesn't leave me thinking YOU are bussing THEM if you want me drop my suspicion of you.
This crap about Sly won't fly.-
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I have no idea who you are talking about.In post 227, Blade Dancer wrote:
Pretty much. Did you realize how he objected to my leading question but said he used the tactic himself.In post 225, House wrote:
Lawyering is a scum tactic, looking for loopholes to escape suspicion.In post 219, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:House...
If I give reasoning to explain that we are not scum together, that means I can't bus him in the first place because only scum bus.
Doesn't work for me.
I said sell me scum (as in, results in a red flip) that doesn't leave me thinking YOU are bussing THEM if you want me drop my suspicion of you.
This crap about Sly won't fly.-
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Random note: I'm so glad I found Slaughter: Stick It To Ya on Spotify.
Haven't heard this album since high school. Good times.-
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Truth.In post 258, SirCakez wrote:
No it's notIn post 255, Blade Dancer wrote:
Stop deflecting and trying to paint me as an unreasonable player on a witch hunt.In post 254, McMenno wrote:
I don't fucking knowIn post 252, Not Chara wrote:McMenno: why didn't you feel the need to comment before voting pepto?
anyway, blade dancer, are you going to keep datamining my posts for reasons to scumread me? because I'm trying to get the actual scum here
as you can hopefully understand the average density of players in recent large themes has made be a bit miffed
This is flailing.-
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I loled.In post 261, SnarkySnowman wrote:motherfucker it's already 11 pages in and it just started. fuck you all VOTE: house for most posts-
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Please keep them to yourself.In post 250, Creature wrote:Welp, I have a couple of townreads already.
I think that publicizing townreads only serves to give scum information on optimal NK's.
Town needs scumreads. Let scum infer what they will from names not mentioned as scumreads.
It's easier to pick a widely townread person for the nk by comparing readslists than having to guess based on names that aren't mentioned.-
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Play the way you always do, just post those you haven't eliminated as town as either null or scum.In post 269, Creature wrote:I don't know how I'll play as I work with PoE, not scumreads.
Posting town/strong town reads only serves to help scum, they're the ones that need that information. Not town.-
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The point about you not knowing who started the wagon you yourself are pushing is indicative that you are not actually following the game and your indifference to the makeup and history of The wagon your to suspect suggests you aren't really serious about that suspicion and are looking for an easy target to look town with.In post 280, zakk wrote:OK House here's me acquitting myself:
I didn't even know who was wagoning SlySly when I voted him. I didn't check. I didn't care. I just started pushing his wagon because he was scummy, and I encouraged others to vote for him, including you. Does that sound like a scum move to you?
If so, please explain how.-
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EBWOPIn post 285, House wrote:
The point about you not knowing who started the wagon you yourself are pushing is indicative that you are not actually following the game and your indifference to the makeup and history of the wagon on your top suspect suggests you aren't really serious about that suspicion and are looking for an easy target to look town with.In post 280, zakk wrote:OK House here's me acquitting myself:
I didn't even know who was wagoning SlySly when I voted him. I didn't check. I didn't care. I just started pushing his wagon because he was scummy, and I encouraged others to vote for him, including you. Does that sound like a scum move to you?
If so, please explain how.-
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YW scum.In post 284, zakk wrote:TIA champ-
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Do explain.
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Not really motivated to vote elsewhere.-
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Hey Sky, please answer this because I want to know too.In post 260, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:hey sly
i thought your willingness to only hammer wagons was a playstyle quirk or something, but i took a brief look at some of your games and I've seen that you've placed non-hammering votes. What gives?-
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Lmao, OF COURSE YOU WILL.In post 305, SlySly wrote:With my lean on you, House, I'll pass on your request, too.-
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If I'm sheepable, please respect my wishes.
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Why are you telling me what you think I think?In post 325, Gamma Emerald wrote:but you think that people need to directly interact-
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Of the current wagons, the one on zakk has the best composition by far.-
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Or I could wait for the players that don't need to be spoonfed to make their way into the thread.In post 329, Gamma Emerald wrote:
Then explain why I should join it.In post 328, House wrote:Of the current wagons, the one on zakk has the best composition by far.
Zakk, what do you enjoy playing more, town or scum?
Yeah, I'll go with that option.-
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"Tell me why I should" is not town play.
It's scummy challenging, daring the wagoner to present reasons so they can be batted away on spurious reasoning.
Town is perfectly capable of drawing their own conclusions.