I agree, but have you seen McMenno's avatar, it's as muddy as his RVS vote.In post 41, zakk wrote:VOTE: SlySly for having a scummy avatar. Better no avatar at all than a scummy one.
VOTE: McMenno
I agree, but have you seen McMenno's avatar, it's as muddy as his RVS vote.In post 41, zakk wrote:VOTE: SlySly for having a scummy avatar. Better no avatar at all than a scummy one.
In post 31, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:I thought I heard that through the grapevine, but there's also the fact that they don't meet the 3 completed games requirement.In post 29, SlySly wrote:How do you know that player's an alt? Am I an alt?In post 27, gigabyteTroubadour wrote: wagon the alt so people don't try to waste time and guess who it is
I assumed that because you had Mafia Scum as your title that you've at least played 3 games on this account, making you a main.
Stop voting town. McMenno's RVS on you is bad.
Scared of alts and RVS votes. Probably scum or noob.In post 10, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:i've never voted you before and i've never not rolled town
your logic is faulty
I agree. McMenno's scum with Giga, but no one's biting.In post 105, SirCakez wrote:zakk is great at faking scumhunting as scum
I wouldn't townread him for that yet
This was for you SirCakez.In post 95, Blade Dancer wrote:Scared of alts and RVS votes. Probably scum or noob.In post 10, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:i've never voted you before and i've never not rolled town
your logic is faulty
His stance to policy lynch day 1 is also Antitown.
Sad scum had the first two posts of the game.
Sly is town because Giga is scum.In post 138, SirCakez wrote:This is about a scumread though?In post 133, Blade Dancer wrote:This was for you SirCakez.In post 95, Blade Dancer wrote:Scared of alts and RVS votes. Probably scum or noob.In post 10, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:i've never voted you before and i've never not rolled town
your logic is faulty
His stance to policy lynch day 1 is also Antitown.
Sad scum had the first two posts of the game.
I want to know why you're townreading Sly, not scumreading whoever this was aimed at.
You can watch me like a TV character. During sober outbursts, I can be boring, but I assure you that engaging with me is faster and less boring.In post 134, Peptobislawl wrote:Well this game is off running, innit?
Sly trying to interpret "grapevine" as "scum PT" is reaching SUPER HARD and reads like trying to build a case out of nothing. I would vote him, but i'm unsure of the count and i don't want to put him at L-1 in 5 seconds of starting.
That makes Giga a townread by way of being a scum target.
Creature's #96 is non commital and i don't like it.
Don't PL the alt, that's dumb.
Null on everyone else, though blade dancer is my current top watched null read. Might need to wait for flips to sort him.
Pedit:WHAT THE HELLAnkamius wrote:I forgot about this before because of the delay, butmy role has several different states it can have, and both Miller and Hated are part of those states.
By the same token, my role benefits from being on lynch wagons and hammering, so please be aware of this.
Yes.In post 144, McMenno wrote:wait was that a serious vote?
Please do not edit quotes. It's annoying to me.In post 147, SirCakez wrote:I get your giga scumread fyiIn post 141, SirCakez wrote:Blade/House why assume it's town vs 1 scum team?
P-edit: It was yeah but House changed my mind
Far too early to form associative reads. Slow down. Let them be individually scummy.In post 148, House wrote:A Giga scum flip will result in me screaming for a Pepto lynch the following day.
Like Creature random vote hopping everyone but Zakk.
I just did provide reasoning, when SirCakez asked. Why is my reasoning not real? Why are you townreading Giga?In post 154, Peptobislawl wrote:I hadn't considered multiball, though i tend not to until I see evidence. If it is multiball, then yeah giga could be the other scumteam.SirCakez wrote:Pepto why assume it's town vs 1 scum team?
Blade Dancer wrote:
You can watch me like a TV character. During sober outbursts, I can be boring, but I assure you that engaging with me is faster and less boring.
Why are you needing to watch me so? I am pretty transparently in search of boring scum.Because you're pushing the opposite of what i believe, and not providing a real argument to support it. It's not scummy to have a different opinion, of course, but I'd like to see some real reasoning. Flips could null the little suspicion, as could providing reasons, even if their wrong.In post 141, SirCakez wrote:Pepto why assume it's town vs 1 scum team?
On the surface I get it, but I just feel in my bones he is not scummy.In post 156, House wrote:Duh.In post 152, Blade Dancer wrote:Far too early to form associative reads. Slow down. Let them be individually scummy.In post 148, House wrote:A Giga scum flip will result in me screaming for a Pepto lynch the following day.
I was already scumreading Pepto for that shade af catch-up.
Why the shade and walk back? If you suspect him, own it.In post 162, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:But doesn't it make more sense to enter a game with only 6 pages in by just jumping into the action? It seemed unnecessarily try-hard to just make a catch-up post and give relatively safe opinions, but I don't want to shade your playstyle if you're just like that.In post 161, Peptobislawl wrote:Because I didn't know the game started until 6 pages in.
My email spam filters PM notifications.
Ok, you did. Why did you stop voting Zakk?In post 165, Creature wrote:but I voted zakk remember?In post 155, Blade Dancer wrote:Like Creature random vote hopping everyone but Zakk.
Why is that Creature?
In post 159, Blade Dancer wrote:I just did provide reasoning, when SirCakez asked. Why is my reasoning not real? Why are you townreading Giga?In post 154, Peptobislawl wrote:I hadn't considered multiball, though i tend not to until I see evidence. If it is multiball, then yeah giga could be the other scumteam.SirCakez wrote:Pepto why assume it's town vs 1 scum team?
Blade Dancer wrote:
You can watch me like a TV character. During sober outbursts, I can be boring, but I assure you that engaging with me is faster and less boring.
Why are you needing to watch me so? I am pretty transparently in search of boring scum.Because you're pushing the opposite of what i believe, and not providing a real argument to support it. It's not scummy to have a different opinion, of course, but I'd like to see some real reasoning. Flips could null the little suspicion, as could providing reasons, even if their wrong.In post 141, SirCakez wrote:Pepto why assume it's town vs 1 scum team?
95In post 179, Peptobislawl wrote:But why is giga scum? Just saying giga is scum doesn't make me believe it, you need reasons. Hence, noIn post 142, Blade Dancer wrote: Sly is town because Giga is scum.realargument
RVS pursuit to get a read.In post 184, Not Chara wrote:Blade: i also didn't like that post. what did you think of House's Creature vote?
Only took 100 posts to reply.In post 187, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:where are you getting scared from? I know House and I think he has the logical ability to give an RVS vote that is correct. Why did you think I was (jokingly, because that isn't clear somehow??) calling for a PL on your slot out of fear?In post 95, Blade Dancer wrote:Scared of alts and RVS votes. Probably scum or noob.
His stance to policy lynch day 1 is also Antitown.
Why does anti-town mean scum?
aren't the days of serious policy lynches over anyway?
also please use they/she for me thanks.
Why do you keep missing my posts Pepto?In post 183, Blade Dancer wrote:95In post 179, Peptobislawl wrote:But why is giga scum? Just saying giga is scum doesn't make me believe it, you need reasons. Hence, noIn post 142, Blade Dancer wrote: Sly is town because Giga is scum.realargument
Why is Giga town?
@House, investigating my gut.
Just like you didn't see House RVSing you as a threat either. We're you hoping for the ignore it and it goes away method of defense?In post 204, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:I don't see you as a threat.In post 202, Blade Dancer wrote:@giga, First, it likely wasn't true. Even if it was a joke,much jokes tend to be used by scum. Usually, after the types of votes McMenno casts though. Attacking players that are a threat then backing off as a joke is fairly commonly a scum move.
Contradiction!In post 219, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:House...
If I give reasoning to explain that we are not scum together, that means I can't bus him in the first place because only scum bus.
@Blade, I wasn't scared of you because I didn't know who you are.
Mcmenno could just be lazy as town, your scumread of him makes sense and I at least get the logic behind it but I don't come to the same conclusion.
Well, you're capable of deflection and fearing what I am up to.In post 221, McMenno wrote:evidently you can'tIn post 207, Blade Dancer wrote:Just like you didn't see House RVSing you as a threat either. We're you hoping for the ignore it and it goes away method of defense?In post 204, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:I don't see you as a threat.In post 202, Blade Dancer wrote:@giga, First, it likely wasn't true. Even if it was a joke,much jokes tend to be used by scum. Usually, after the types of votes McMenno casts though. Attacking players that are a threat then backing off as a joke is fairly commonly a scum move.
Oh and you can actually read McMenno. Pretty easy actually.
or is this a reaction test? in which case what are you trying to accomplish here
Pretty much. Did you realize how he objected to my leading question but said he used the tactic himself.In post 225, House wrote:Lawyering is a scum tactic, looking for loopholes to escape suspicion.In post 219, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:House...
If I give reasoning to explain that we are not scum together, that means I can't bus him in the first place because only scum bus.
Doesn't work for me.
I said sell me scum (as in, results in a red flip) that doesn't leave me thinking YOU are bussing THEM if you want me drop my suspicion of you.
This crap about Sly won't fly.
His posts.In post 237, Not Chara wrote:Blade, could you just explain what this easy thing you're using to read McMenno is?In post 231, McMenno wrote:yeah, I know your type
thinking you're sooooo clever for catching people on one little "slip" and tunneling them to death
gigabyte: i don't want to start making alignment guesses based on a player's meta when we aren't even sure it's really them. that's too many assumptions in one.
You got thoughts in there?In post 236, Ankamius wrote:How long are you 6 or so going to argue within yourselves?
I included 1 later post. His deflection.In post 248, Not Chara wrote:sorry, Blade. but i'm really not convinced. the Cakez vote was null, and the rest is McMenno. when you said he was 'easy to read', he only had the three posts, so why include the later ones in your explanation? (i could be wrong, he could have had four.. don't remember.)
Stop deflecting and trying to paint me as an unreasonable player on a witch hunt.In post 254, McMenno wrote:I don't fucking knowIn post 252, Not Chara wrote:McMenno: why didn't you feel the need to comment before voting pepto?
anyway, blade dancer, are you going to keep datamining my posts for reasons to scumread me? because I'm trying to get the actual scum here
as you can hopefully understand the average density of players in recent large themes has made be a bit miffed
Y'all have one messed up view of flailing. When the request is scumhunt, and the target responds with you're a big meanie that is flail and deflection.In post 259, House wrote:Truth.In post 258, SirCakez wrote:No it's notIn post 255, Blade Dancer wrote:Stop deflecting and trying to paint me as an unreasonable player on a witch hunt.In post 254, McMenno wrote:I don't fucking knowIn post 252, Not Chara wrote:McMenno: why didn't you feel the need to comment before voting pepto?
anyway, blade dancer, are you going to keep datamining my posts for reasons to scumread me? because I'm trying to get the actual scum here
as you can hopefully understand the average density of players in recent large themes has made be a bit miffed
This is flailing.
Strongly disagree. When obvious town find each other and are flaunted, it acts as a psychological barrier to scum and a reinforcement mechanism for town, much less the 180 potential.In post 271, House wrote:Play the way you always do, just post those you haven't eliminated as town as either null or scum.In post 269, Creature wrote:I don't know how I'll play as I work with PoE, not scumreads.
Posting town/strong town reads only serves to help scum, they're the ones that need that information. Not town.
House, help him please he's new.In post 333, House wrote:If you don't like the wagon, I'm not begging you to join it.In post 331, House wrote:Town is perfectly capable of drawing their own conclusions.
Ahem.In post 113, Blade Dancer wrote:I agree. McMenno's scum with Giga, but no one's biting.In post 105, SirCakez wrote:zakk is great at faking scumhunting as scum
I wouldn't townread him for that yet
Let's help house sort Zakk.
VOTE: Zakk
Not a good day 1 lynch.In post 416, Accountant wrote:Ah. I forgot you were already on zakk. What is your position on Gamma?In post 414, Blade Dancer wrote:Ahem.In post 113, Blade Dancer wrote:I agree. McMenno's scum with Giga, but no one's biting.In post 105, SirCakez wrote:zakk is great at faking scumhunting as scum
I wouldn't townread him for that yet
Let's help house sort Zakk.
VOTE: Zakk
Can I hydra with her?
Why you gotta be mean? You're the most adorable masculine man but for my husband.In post 578, zakk wrote:I'm ignoring you for thatIn post 576, Blade Dancer wrote:Zakky poo, can you do a reads list?
I need to know where you stand. Your defensiveness is getting in the way. Show me where you are man.In post 586, zakk wrote:Wait what.In post 582, Blade Dancer wrote:Why you gotta be mean? You're the most adorable masculine man but for my husband.In post 578, zakk wrote:I'm ignoring you for thatIn post 576, Blade Dancer wrote:Zakky poo, can you do a reads list?
I want to see you solving the game so I can justify being insistent on my biggest scumread but if you gotta go me like that well...
Meh, I don't want zakk dead. He's more of my townreads want it so whatever. I would rather lynch McMenno then Giga slot, or Ank. Ank subject to move depending on answer.In post 612, Accountant wrote:For someone who supposedly wants to see zakk dead you don't seem to hate him very much BD.
Yup, you can die. I don't like people who accuse me of lying when I am 100% right in order to defend scum so die.In post 615, Ankamius wrote:OrIn post 608, Blade Dancer wrote:VOTE: Ank
Really? Terrible how? For catching McMenno using a routine bullshit line scum use or McMenno is just your buddy.
You cannot justify McMenno being town and you realized that the moment it came from your lips, so you can to resort to attacking me.
I misremembered where the read came from, glanced at the notes I took and saw I had no specific post attributed to the read, and skimmed his ISO to refigure out why I was townreading him in the first place.
And your engagement on him was terrible because you were making up bullshit about his responses to you.
Your House impression sucks.In post 619, Ankamius wrote:What, this post?In post 610, Accountant wrote:Why is Ankamius refusing to engage with me?
If you really care enough about why I'm reading things a certain way, then ask. Don't expect me to spoonfeed you everything I'm thinking at all times.In post 599, Accountant wrote:So, likeIn post 597, Ankamius wrote:I'm sorry for being one of the only people to see how scummy you really are, I guess.
are you gonna give reasons
or do the sircakez "let me go ahead and say X is scummy w/out explaining why", except at least cakez explained after I asked him
I wanted to see if you could justify them. You can't and you're still deflecting.In post 622, Ankamius wrote:And your only post about my reads before that was to dismiss them, so I don't understand why you felt the need to include the third line.
Adorable, meta defense now. Really, you're going there?In post 626, Ankamius wrote:It's very obvious that Blade Dancer has never played with me before.
Oh you want to play semanticsIn post 629, Ankamius wrote:Scumhunting =/= townIn post 625, Blade Dancer wrote:I wanted to see if you could justify them. You can't and you're still deflecting.In post 622, Ankamius wrote:And your only post about my reads before that was to dismiss them, so I don't understand why you felt the need to include the third line.
McMenno hasn't scumhunted once.
Lack of scumhunting =/= scum