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YOU ALREADY FUCKING KNEW I HAD THE AIRBASE ANYWAY
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YEAH COOL STORY
WHEN YOU FLIP SCUM I DON'T CARE HOW I'LL LOOK
BECAUSE YOU'LL BE DEAD SCUMShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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Oh sure, some posthumous shade thrown on me.
Sure, we lynch you today I'll be the fucking terrorist. Then your last buddy will have a reason to come at me tomorrow.
That'll be funny when Hiplop flips of course.ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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THE AIRBASE DOESN'T STOP NUKESIn post 5278, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Because you're right you're not going to lie about that role claim unless MoI and you are scum together which is too crazy to posit.
But if you're scum you could totally have taken AirBase and then fake nuked yourself for town cred...ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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The only thing it stops is your stupid night kill. So suck itShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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You bet! I will sign on the fucking line. You pushed me to claim to get me straight in the line of the terrorist's submarine, knowing for a fact exactly how the claim would shake out.ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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WELL YOU'RE NOT FLIPPING TOWN
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Seriously I have never seen such a pile of fake smarmy bullshit as I have witnessed today. "MOI OF COURSE would take the airbase, so OF COURSE Grey has the Failsafe and he better claim right quick before that submarine fires!"ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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Sure. You flip town it's entirely my fault for misreading you. You flip scum, no more of this "oh you can't read me" BS that you peddle whenever I want to lynch you.ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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I say I have DIFFICULTY reading you. Not that I can't read you. But whenever I want to lynch you you blame it on my paranoia.
There's a difference between saying "you are hard to read" and "I am incapable of doing this thing merely because it is hard".ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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Yes you found two quotes from me where I say it is hard.
But go on. Try to discredit my vote in other's eyes. Don't fucking worry, I'll shove it down their throats anyway. That's what you were trying to stop when you shot me after al.ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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Aggressive? That's not how I'd characterize your play day 1 and 2. I've seen you aggressive, that was Milquetoast.ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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HEY PEOPLE LLD WANTS TO DIE
LETS OBLIGE HERShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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WORKS THE FUCK OUT FOR ME.
Say, by the way, anyone else noticed your entire case on me was "oh he had the failsafe he knew he wasn't getting nuked" and... I didn't have the failsafe?
So she gets called out and doubles down even though the entire basis of her case was wrong? See that? Scum.ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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A survivalist perspective. After I agreed to die tomorrow.
Suck my left nutShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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Also. You're SK hunting. Do bother to die now~ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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You're so deep in the tunnel that you're selling yourself on me being scum. Which means not group scum, since you know for a fact I ain't that.
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Cool, QQ in the postgame how you had us all fooled except for the lame replace out nuke that you totally could have weaseled out of if he hadn't replaced out.ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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Well kvetch to the mod more maybe he could help you.
And there's the 5% chance SpyreX sabotaged Cheetory (or you) which you and Vax seem to be banking on.ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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Yeah he totally has reason to do that before the submarine fires.
In lala land.
Stay salty palsShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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By the way both of you, thanks for highlighting the difference:
Mastina - gives us her final reads
Vaxkiller - begs SpyreX to tell him who he blocked to learn if he should give a shit about this game or not
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I mean not that it's beyond Mastina to totally brown nose on the off chance it's not happening, Llamarble style.
But really you two scumbags should take some fucking notes.ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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Hey, you wanna leave that as your final epitaph to the town, go ahead.ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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Vi! Welcome!ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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And Vi, let me solve some mysteries for you: LLD is scum. Hiplop is SK. Final scum I thought was Vax, but now is either... hmmm... UT isn't scum, I'm not scum, I want to say is SpyreX. Nahdia is still obviously town, I had a town read on Cheetory (despite, as LLD calls it, his "I am so depressed" as that struck me as a genuine reason not to want to play - been there, done that). MOI might be scum, but it's an outside possibility, and why pick failsafe as scum? Unless it's literally 100% WIFOM value (like this is why I haven't been shot). But I'm really good at reading MOI (you should remember the game that proved that), and I think this is town MOI.ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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Fucking finally.ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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Got fucking baited. Lynch LLD for me if I'm the one?
I mean I think this is Vi dying in a fit of spite, but I dunno.ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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I mean does it really matter who he shoots at? The odds SpyreX sabotaged Cheetory of all people have to be like 1%ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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1) No. I've been a proponent of Nahdia town since the start of day 1.
2) UT was the counterwagon to SS. I found it really unlikely for him to be a scum counterwagon to scum. I guess it's possible, but it still doesn't feel likely.
3) Doesn't SpyreX confirm a player non-SK every time he uses his role?
5) Isn't Cephrir obviously town. If he was scum Nukebringer nukes GIF, 110% of the time. 125% of the time? 110000000% of the time? I don't see a world in which Cephrir is scum and they don't nuke GIF after shooting me N2.
6) 'cause she's scum
7) 'cause Hiplop shot him?
Also the terrorist can still win through scorched earth? Right. Dammit.ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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Doc role only protects first kill Vi. So if they shoot me N2 (which is the only other thing that could block the kill) then they use it as an excuse to have Nukebringer nuke GIF and go "Wow, they used their night kill AND a nuke on GIF"In post 5493, Vi wrote:
He wouldn't have known that on Night 2.In post 5489, GreyICE wrote:3) Doesn't SpyreX confirm a player non-SK every time he uses his role?
...yeah, that's fair. (Counterpoint: scum Doc lives how much of the time after not protecting the Cop?)5) Isn't Cephrir obviously town. If he was scum Nukebringer nukes GIF, 110% of the time. 125% of the time? 110000000% of the time? I don't see a world in which Cephrir is scum and they don't nuke GIF after shooting me N2.ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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Actually it was 100% validated D1. Mastin's nuke didn't land and the SK killed Zito.In post 5501, Vi wrote:@UT: I like to believe that you fire COMMUNIST missiles like the Nodong but you've given them nuclear capabilities and renamed them Loldongs
curiously this is day #2 where this cannot be validatedSpyreX 5500 wrote:As a shock to all i sabotaged mastin againShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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(Actually interesting question I await the response)ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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Wait what.ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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Not you SpyreX, the covert ops team.
Why the HELL did you even pick that ability? It's like the goggles.ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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Because I literally just played a PYP game and 2 different people bid 100 on the Ninja. One player bid 100 on the Strongman. All three were town. I was scum with LLD, we didn't even consider bidding on the "scum" PRs.In post 5528, Vi wrote:GreyICE, why is Nahdia Town?
Town -> "I'm not getting a town PR, I will deny the town these scum PRs!"
Scum -> "I don't want to claim a scummy role, I want a town role to deny it to the town and so I don't have to claim something scumtastic."
This is the draft: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... edit#gid=0
Then she begged to be POE nuked yesterday. I admit she has a lot of motive to kill GIF, because that means she doesn't have to be POE nuked, but so does every friggin scum player in the game.ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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She, and... this is actually kinda convincing. Unless you're playing DEEP cover operative. Or LLD is scum. Because you had no reason to doubt Mastina besides the usual (aka she's cray cray)In post 5531, SpyreX wrote:As scum id have not announced it for sure tried to hide more in the weeds waay longer.
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In post 5546, Nahdia wrote:
so im probably like 5 steps behind everyone else just realizing this but since SpyreX sabbed mastin this post is kind of interesting.In post 4914, SpyreX wrote:Ceph i will give that just eating the pill here makes the most sense.
Unless you have a really compelling reason to just waste 48 hrs
Uh...
This is another reason she's town Vi. Things like this.ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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Like Spy, you really wanted Cephrir dead that badly?ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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LLD was asking for a scarce commodity. There's one investigate.
Nukes are a plentiful commodity. All scum-Nahdia needs is one player to go "oh that does sound like a good idea, NUKES AWAY LAWL"ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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Because Mastina said "I'm gonna nuke LLD immediately" for two game days. That forced out the fallout shelter softclaim and was generally obnoxious.
Now granted I still don't have any idea why Town-LLD picks fallout shelter. I know why scum-LLD would.ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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Like what's the line of reasoning: "I'll make the town use two investigates or an investigate/block combo in order to clear me, just so the scum can use their night kill on me"?
While I happily see LLD thinking "I don't trust this scumteam I'm going to have to make it to LyLo solo and someone is going to POE nuke me".
She's fucking scum and self voted and we lynch her.ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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Okay fair.In post 5557, Vi wrote:That... doesn't sound like a particularly destructive thing? Unless she hadn't revealed at that time that she was the Fallout Shelter, merely that she was asking for investigations.
I'm having trouble figuring out who LLD's scumbuddy would be. You (Cheetory) seem out based on the replace out interactions, Nahdia seems out, Cephrir seems out, that leaves MOI, UT and Spy? And I think both MOI (failsafe-scum? Plus townread?) and UT (counterwagon to scum, although he has been generally not amazing) are not likely and that's leaving SpyreX by POE.ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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Now we're crosstalking.ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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I mean I could see LLD unloading on a scumbuddy until they replaced out, I guess. And Cheetory weakly tunneling her for days while generally being uninspired would be exactly how to get her rage up at a scumbuddy. I mean basically all he did was weakly call other people's scumreads stupid, and the Nuke on accountant was fairly crap, which leaves the nuke on Hiplop which means nothing (scum have every reason to try and nuke the SK) so... you're kind of talking me out of townreading you TBH.ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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Hmmm... that argues LLD was trying to win this solo, since she got fallout shelter. Something_Smart, Spiffeh, Cheetory6, Nukebringer... oh hell yes LLD takes the fallout shelter there and prepares for another PYP 6 solo win.ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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You posted up a STORM in that stupid Fate game. Yes, eventually you trip over your own two feet and contradict yourself, but man everyone was townreading you for like half the day, and you damn near got me lynch except for the fact I was confirmed town.ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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SAD had to die after doing the scummiest possible thing to hop from the SS wagon to the UT wagon. Like he made the argument that "reck would never risk his friendship with UT to vote UT in a mafia game" which is so painfully stupid that not only did UT hate it, RECK hated it. And he moved to the wagon Reck had started. It was a super good push, and SAD happened to flip town, oh well. I'd lynch him again ten times in ten under those circumstances.In post 5563, Vi wrote:
Now we're playing with POWER.In post 5561, GreyICE wrote:Now we're crosstalking.NUCLEARPOWER.
So we're basically in the same place with {LLD, SpX, UT}. I acknowledge that I have done very little to know what Moai has been up to this game and will rely on you for that.
His posting recently has been a bit lackluster, but I don't feel like Spiffeh or S_S or Nukebringer paid much attention to him. Like Spiffeh saw no reason to comment on the SAD wagon, that feels like "he dug his own grave". And Spiffeh likes to comment on everything his scumbuddies do and call it scummy. So at best I would call MOI possibly the SK, but I doubt that's a problem anymore.ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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I mean if we get LLD lynched today, good by me.In post 5567, Vi wrote:but back on business
Are we in agreement on this? I'll do better than my last game and actually stick to it, thereby not losing in a shameful and disgraceful manner.In post 5563, Vi wrote:So we're basically in the same place with {LLD, SpX, UT}. I acknowledge that I have done very little to know what Moai has been up to this game and will rely on you for that.
The only people I give my seal of approval of post death are Nahdia and MOI.ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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Although if this is another fucking nuke fakeout I'm going to seriously smash somethingShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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I still think Hiplop might have spite killed you ViShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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Like... at least a 40% chance. It's not like he's given a shit about this game at any point, I don't think he'd think he deserves a win.ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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I'll save LLD the time and snap at you about pronouns. Stop.ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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Okay, basic math time. I don't know where the nuke will land, but lets say it hits Cephrir, or me, or whatever (not Vi now, obviously). It hits town (which it will if it's either of us). That leaves us at 4:2:1. Lynch SK, 4:2. Scum NK, 3:2. With Vi and UT as our two Nukes. If Vi is scum, that's game.
Vi says mathematically we have to lynch the serial killer.
I say I might owe my wife an apology.
Vote: Vi
It's these fucking logical inconsistencies that get you every fucking time.ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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CEPHRIR PAY SOME FUCKING ATTENTION BECAUSE ONE OF THE TWO OF US IS DYING MOST LIKELY AND I SURE AS SHIT HOPE YOU CAN CARRY THIS.
Vi shoots UT. Now there's one nuke in play. 3:2. Vi uses nuke on town. Lynch Vi, nuke kills town, game fucking over.ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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Okay look Cephrir it doesn't matter how you read Cheetory. He posted random bullshit and how depressed he was, it was pure ATE and I don't care if he replaced out. He probably was depressed and he probably did have trouble playing. I've been there, I've done that, and I've done that as scum and it doesn't change that much.
Vi always makes the same mistake. Vi has a plan and the plan is 100% scum.
Lynching the SK is a 100% win for a Vi-SpyreX scumteam (actual mathematically guaranteed win), and a near certain win for any other Vi-X combination.ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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Well I guess not mathematically guaranteed if you aren't the target.
What's the first thing SpyreX says? "I bet Cephrir's the target". Vi has at least four different ways to win planned out in the scum QT right now, and they're in one of the scenarios.ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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In post 5597, SpyreX wrote:I assume its hitting ceph but that's a hunch
Okay, babble more Ruskie scumIn post 5655, SpyreX wrote:Except ceph can still choke a nukeShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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As for lynching scum, we're in 4:1:1. So we have to bank on crosskills. If they do crosskill it's 3:1, and UT will have a nuke, which will give us two shots to kill scum. Versus a literal mathematically guaranteed loss if your hunch is right, we lynch the SK and it's you/Vi.
So yeah, I'm getting really, really paranoid right now.ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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No SpyreX. I think Vi had this sitting in a word document and copy/pasted every bit of it into the QT when Vax died.
And the MOI launch won't ever happen. Scenario: It hits Cephrir and we lynch UT and he's the SK. Whose alive?
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You
Vi
MOI
You night kill LLD. Vi launches the nuke at Nadhia. How does MOI's failsafe help exactly?ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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