Undertale Mafia: Friends & Corpses [GAME OVER]
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No matter what I say no matter what I do because scum are demanding Cakez and Gio you won't listen. I suggest PV miraculously the lynch always falls to someone else. It really doesn't matter because no one gives two shits you all want this game to be over instead of lynching scum.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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So as far as I am concerned we have already lost because no one uses their damn brain ever in this fucking game.
VOTE: MathBlade
I am done caring. Drink your game away you ignorant buttholes and have whatever scum their is left rip open town's corpse.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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I don't give a shit about swaying it is a matter of saving the people who will actually be heard. As long as I am around people won't play mafia so come and have your mislynch scum. Let's go let's do this so the rest of town sobers the hell up. I will leave a last will and stop having to try to talk with people who decide their stomachs are better at mafia than their brains.
Come and lynch me you scumfucks.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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In post 10027, BigYoshiFan wrote:In post 10017, BigYoshiFan wrote:In post 10005, MathBlade wrote:Nahdia went along with it in a simple one word gotcha post.
And I wonder why you would object to Nahdia if she is a Jailkeeper protecting the last useful PR we would have left.
Or is it that you know she isn't a Jailkeeper.If you can throw out the mechanical conf townieness I have through Gio I can ignore the VT claims because oooooh I think like JaeReedbecause all I do is post while drunkand I should take a step back and think but nooo I am going to push Math because I don't like how they play and they won't vote who I think is scum so they have to be scum with me.
You realize Almost50 is off the damn wagon and you townread Almost50. If this was LyLO Almost50 would be scum.
I highly doubt this is LyLO. Man if I didn't have that VT confirmationI would say it would be you and CFJ.
On and Ank another townread of yours not on the wagon. Wtf are you doing in your own proposed LyLOvoting with a scumread of yours Gio? You make no sense right now. If I was a cop I would pull you over for posting while intoxicated and leverage a no posting anywhere til sober fine."Or is it that you know [they aren't] a Jailkeeper."
You were pretty convinced that they weren't a jailkeeper and that jailing someone with a PR would be the way to confirm them, why are you having an issue now?
"because all I do is post while drunk"
This is pretty AtE or emotional in itself in the context its written in. It was... what, a few posts? You're using that to describe "everything" JaeReed does?
"I would say it would be you and CFJ"
Convenient you added CFJ in there, since I do recall you defending them since Narna cleared them and they were backing up JaeReed.
"voting with a scumread of yours Gio"
Any post you have where you have direct conversation with Gio looks like distancing to me, this looks like a desperate attempt to do so.
First paragraph I have no problem with the plan others do.
Second paragraph exaggeration heard of it?
Third I said if I ignored mechanics and logic. I don't.
Fourth I said Gio is a scumread of JaeReeds. I have and do townread him.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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I am going to rip apart which scum fucking vote me in my last will and you all better follow it because quite frankly everyone is getting lead around like a puppy dog on a leash to a player that the majority scumreads.
Bring it on lynch your town BP. Do it. I DARE you.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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I exaggerate all the time. I can think of three instances in day 5. Was it a last resort when I replaced in.In post 10033, BigYoshiFan wrote:In post 10031, MathBlade wrote:\\
First paragraph I have no problem with the plan others do.What?
Second paragraph exaggeration heard of it?Yes. Why is it useful here? It's a last resort to try to discredit someone.
Third I said if I ignored mechanics and logic. I don't.What?
Fourth I said Gio is a scumread of JaeReeds. I have and do townread him.Seems like a dumb reason to ask him to get off of SC. Wouldn't it be great if, in a game like this, everyone's scumreads stayed off their wagon?
Third go reread with context.
Fourth yes it would but if this is LyLO scum won't bus. I am using that to counter JaeReed's point about it being LyLO
Omg are you not reading for context at all?ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Pretty much if you think SirCakez is scum you are betting on it not being LyLOScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Then reread again. See why I said what I did.In post 10040, BigYoshiFan wrote:
I understand this now.In post 10039, MathBlade wrote:Pretty much if you think SirCakez is scum you are betting on it not being LyLOScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Excuse me...Apparentlh this wall beside me doesn't have enough Marh head decoration in it.In post 10042, BigYoshiFan wrote:Actually I don't, but I wanna get criticism for it so I'm just gonna shut up.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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LyLO = All Town agree on a wagon or we lose.
JaeReed if he believes that believes that at the time of that post me and Almost50 are scum with SirCakez yet he has adamantly said A50 is a townread.
Therefore his LyLO argument is meant to drum up fear and invalid.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Lying about understanding something is NEVER okay.In post 10045, BigYoshiFan wrote:
EBWOPIn post 10042, BigYoshiFan wrote:Actually I don't, but Iwanna get criticism for it so I'm just gonna shut up.don'tScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Vigs are not investigative. They leave corpses. Investigation is one that gives feedback. Saying a vig is investigative is like saying Supergirl's eye rays are investigating the internal structure of a building. What do you mean the building collapsed? Supergirl was investigating it. In reality their X ray vision is the investigation took.In post 10049, Ankamius wrote:
The only thing different between cops and vigilantes is that vigilantes don't have to claim to give their results and the results can't be doubted in exchange for their target being out of the game.In post 10022, MathBlade wrote:
Killing roles are killing roles.In post 10012, Ankamius wrote:Mathblade, here's the thing.
Each investigative role we have this game is nerfed heavily in some way.
My role is a confirmed killing role,which is an investigative role.
You are claiming to be a bulletproof townie.
Do you see how that doesn't make sense with the rest of the setup?
Investigative roles are ones like cop watcher.
And I am claiming it because it is true numb nuts. If I was scum I would come up with a better claim like I did in Shadowrun Mafia when I was Alien instead of JK.
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Cracking open an egg to see if the yolk is intact is not an investigative role.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Your world is not based in logic. It is like the entire game decided "Let's not play mafia today"In post 10051, Ankamius wrote:
Welcome to my fucking world.In post 10026, MathBlade wrote:No matter what I say no matter what I do because scum are demanding Cakez and Gio you won't listen. I suggest PV miraculously the lynch always falls to someone else. It really doesn't matter because no one gives two shits you all want this game to be over instead of lynching scum.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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V/LA the rest of today,tomorrow, and the following day
Helping a friend move. Probably will be able to post if lucky just no where near as active.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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It is because I can't prove you are a killer. As I have said in the hood I am working on multiple theories one of which is there was an SK. Unless it is Nahdia someone has a role that is provable and can kill.
Everyone then decided to lynch the last bit of town power over "scummy" without an explanation as to which posts. SirCakez only started pinging me today and on such a small subset of posts. If we were lynching by gut only I would still go with you PV.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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They please.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Scum have control of this game and are plotting my mislynch next. I can't prove it but lynch chaining is generally horrible and making plans to prove Town = good. It is like mafia 101. Catch scum make plan to prove it or disprove it. You don't just read from your ass. That is literally taking dice and hoping it lands on scum. Your dice suck. Hammer while I am away so I do not have to deal with this bullshit when I get back.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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The logic says it should be.
Furthermore there has been a "miller" to every investigative Pr out there.
The most likely thing is I am fucking town and everyone scumreading me is bending over backwards to do so.
This game is lost. I will give my all and a last will tomorrow but I suspect it will be the quickest hammer ever.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Will read tomorrow morning super tired.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Still helping a friend move today. Not much time to do anything. Nahdia can has Town reads. The SirCakez lynch is dumb. No time to explain.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Agreed. I saw Nahdia visit JaeReed and JaeReed didn't die.In post 10135, BigYoshiFan wrote:I think that Jae surviving gives more legitimacy to Nahdia's JK claim.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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No this is bad. Nahdia was unclaimed in the hood. After the SirCakez lynch I said do what you want as a test. It means a bad person is in the hood more than likely.In post 10136, Almost50 wrote:
That's one way to look at it. Scum may know Nahdia is Town (and thus have no reason to lie) and took their word for granted, yes.In post 10135, BigYoshiFan wrote:I think that Jae surviving gives more legitimacy to Nahdia's JK claim.
But it could also be a collateral gain, as the scum may have wanted CFJ dead more, and.. give Nahdia's claim more legitimacy in the process.
VOTE: AnkanimusScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Was action unclaimed*ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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I gotta go. But let's lynch Ank.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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This gives me the heebie jeebies. Mentioned why in the hood.In post 10158, Almost50 wrote:So where is your voe on Math then? You supported a lynch there yesterday and today you say they're almost certainly scum, so I'd appreciate some support pushing them now and seeing where everybody else stands. I mean, you can retract your vote later and wait for the hammer if that's what you want, but at least give this wagon a jump start.
VOTE: Almost50
I think Ank can only vote Town. That is my hunch. Going to check the game to confirm later. I think A50 is trying to play both sides and push Ank but at the same time get a mislynch on me.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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@Almost50In post 10145, Almost50 wrote:
That was Mathblade claiming BP to claim they were shot at thus earning town credit. Such claim (being shot at) was nullified by Yoshi's claim.In post 9372, callforjudgement wrote:I get the strong feeling that someone has overclaimed this game (i.e. claimed a stronger role than they actually have); such a player is highly likely to be scum.
CFJ was actually a loud voice opposing Math's schemes (mainly for lynching me, but also other moon-logic including Math being "Conf!Town" to which CFJ never gave in).
So I went back to look a Maxous' ISO, and sure enough .. I found what I wanted.
Bolded, underlined and put in Italic: The top two "Town" reads of Maxous were SirCakez and Creature (Creature is now Mathblade). These were the first two he targeted to recruit after his death (apparently he thought they would outlive many others and was proven right).In post 962, Maxous wrote:SirCakez is kinda town
Creature is town
I think Ankamius is town though admittedly i've been wrong about him a couple of times in the past so yeah.
SlySLy is town
Pepto is scum
Gamma Emerald is awkward as hell town that is easy to nitpick at (and a possible counter-wagon attempt from peptobislawl)
Nahdia is trying too hard to redeem Giga's slot. They ain't succeeding.
And here he is reasserting his Town read on Creature, and lining up lynches on Townies (Pepto was Narna's sot).In post 1248, Maxous wrote:...well that list is MY town-reads anyway (plus creature) so :dealwithit:
additonal note: if pepto does end flipping town, i'm prolly gonna lynch mcmenno
More defending of the Creature slot in particular.In post 2848, Maxous wrote:
then just vote menno please.In post 2844, Not Chara wrote:also: McMenno is selectively responding, his latest contribution is entirely to complain that i've been taking potshots. i think he's even still voting Narna.
who is town here? probably Cakez, Nahdia, Narna.
multiball is likely, so Titus and McMenno can both be scum. zakk could be scum. Andrius and magna? i don't want to say both are scum, but one of them probably is.
you agreed with me 20 pages ago that a lynch needed to happen yet here we are.
creature is town but if you want to talk about him, holy hell we can talk about him Day 2.
That goes to all these 1~2 vote wagons.
I mean, he put my slot up there right below Titus at the very top bc most players were hard Town reading Gamma by that time, but look at where Creature is. I don't see ANYTHING to justify such a strong Town read on him by that time. Cakez is even relegated to a null/scum kind of read.In post 3313, Maxous wrote:Titus
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i think that's my current position in order from town => scum
i might be misremembering somebody because of the slog but w/e
Now somebody tell me this sequence ofSpoiler: 5 posts
makes any sense (other than it being for distancing when the VC get analyzed later out of their context).
I mean, naked vote then asking for an either/or then stating he wasn't happy about wagoning that slot??
Then this:
But -interestingly- it was Maxous who also claimed having blocked Creature, so which is it did he mean??
Also interestingly Creature wanted to end the game in a draw at about the same time Maxous had called for it, so -maybe- he was notified of having lost his ability?? Not too sure about that last part since I still believe the "Maxous Followers" faction was "created" after his lynch.
Anyway, I have this urge to vote Mathblade now. They seem to be the one person that would have been targeted by CFJ today after the Cakez flip, so they benefited the most from their death.
Their defense? Yeah sure they did push Max and got him lynched, only they didn't know they were to join his faction after his death (and I just said that I still believe that was the case. The faction was CREATED and the member only got notified AFTER the Maxous lynch had occurred).
VOTE: Mathblade
One ) Most of your posts are pre Maxous death. Based on SorCakez's flip it is likely that people changed alignments during that weird night 5 thing.
Two SirCakez was still an inventor in his flip. He did not seem to gain any misdirection modifiers.
Three I claimed BP pre Maxous flip.
Four Therefore if I am godfather and BP like you are hypothesizing then I would have had god father Pre Maxous flip.
Five If I would have had godfather preMaxojs flip this would make me not Town the entire game as a town Godfather is just Town.
Six If I was scum the entire game why would I point out Maxous was lying there? It makes no sense.
Seven Ergo I am not godfather.
Eight ergo Nahdia JaeReed and I are Town block.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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And you never voted Scum yet. Pre Or Post Maxous you have never voted scum or any kind. I don't like you.In post 10156, Ankamius wrote:My role functions exactly the same as it always has.
Mathblade is almost certainly scum. The meltdown last phase looks significantly worse after a SirCakez scum flip.
I genuinely read SirCakez as town. Misreads happen. What matters is adjusting and fixing it.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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I specifically said in thread I wanted to confirm Nahdia could Jailkeep. The question is why the hell are you trying to paint me doing what I said I would as scummy. Especially when I had a plan to back it up.In post 10146, Almost50 wrote:Well, Ank would work for me too, but I want to hear you shouting and spewing your "brilliant" logic all over the place before I decide which one of you I want to lynch the most. Also funny that you should now confirm Nahdia of all players.
Tell me something: Why did you track Nahdia and not Ank?? I mean, you did suspect him more, right? And he didn't hammer scum, so I would have tried to verify HIM over Nahdia if I were you.. (if I were TOWN!Yo, that is)ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Also Almost50 you are not a confirmed town you are likely town. You have claimed something that makes people not want to lynch you. That in no way means you are telling the truth.
And your rant is anger disguised as logic as I cannot have inherited Godfather as demonstrated bun sirCakez lynch.
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That is not helpful. Please explain how you think I can be Town preMaxous flip, not inherit Godfather, and still be scum with SirCakez.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Ank I want you to vote a different person between each vote count to prove you can vote anyone. I think you have a voting and/or hammering restriction to only vote Town. I think as 3P Chara you could easily be the SK. With the flavorcop flip you could easily have been caught. Anything else could be explained with Miller but not that. I think you Strogman killed Zakk to get around Nahdia's protection for this reason. The fact you do not attack Nahdia here after the two N clan deaths after screaming Nclan hood screams one of two things.
1) You are scum with Nahdia. Highly unlikely.
2) You knew I was going to return a townresult after Nahdia and JaeReed were nice enough to suggest openly I had tracker and not big brother like I was trying to deceive scum with.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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If I am third party I am not Town. Ergo Gio visited me and I am Town. I confirm Nahdia and I confirm JaeReed.In post 10170, Ankamius wrote:Your entire bit of logic assumes that Maxous was the only scum before his death. We still have very little basis to assume this is true.
No it doesn't. It proves I cannot have changed with SirCakez. It also assumes you are 3P SK
It also assumes that if you're scum, you would've known that Maxous would've changed the game state, which is not necessarily true.
If I was scum preMaxous then any buddies I had would have lynched me for cred a long time ago. Furthermore if I had a known liar in a bastard game and was scum I would have ran to my buddies in a hood and said : "Maxous is conf scum let's lynch it" and there is no way the Maxous lynch drags out that long. Ergo I would have to be scum by myself preMaxous flip and do all the killing. Except Creature didn't kill Shiro when if I was Godfather by myself then Shiro would be too much a threat to leave alive. There is literally no way I am scum.
I would like to point out that you spent a majority of your time in the game insisting that pushing Maxous to a lynch makes you town,despite the fact that there is no evidence that he was part of a scumteam that knew about his role.
It still does. It demonstrates I was gamesolving instead of apathy lynching. Yes I was wrong on Cakez but I have been trying. If we lynch someone for being wrong I would be the only person left being the least wrong and Town wins.
You have been trying to brute force a confirmed gamestate when there has been very little to no precedence for clears having any impact on the game. This shows you are trying to manipulate the gamestate.
You've spent the entire game trying to brute force your will and shut down anyone who tried to defy you... at least until the last day. When your scumbuddy was being run up and you were losing influence, you threw up your hands and tried to WIFOM.
I would also like to point out a second time that if you are truly a bulletproof, it's most likely that you were put there as a scum BP to weaken my role, which is designed to kill people. This makes far more sense than your bulletproof being designed to have a town role that can counteract my kill, as that has far less of an impact over the role itself.
This is false. Miller is put in place to stop Narna. If anything I am a town counterpart as there seems to be one fake guilty except you who claimed guilty to everything. Rather convenient.
Giovanni has yet to be confirmed to have his results be accurate, yet the closest we have is that he didn't die when following a third party. The fact that he got an "investigative" result means jack shit.
The only way I am scum is if Gio is lying or I am godfather which can't be right see aboveScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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You has wine. I has facts. Town doesn't let Town consume wine to mislynch mechanically confirmed town before Gio. If you think I am scum the proper thing is Gio first.In post 10173, Ankamius wrote:I would also like to point out that callforjudgment was very strongly implying two things last night before his death:
1. He was hard town reading me for my play yesterday
2. He was strongly believing that SirCakez was scum since the beginning of the game.
It was also looking pretty likely that he would've ended up pushing Mathblade today, which means that there are at least three people that would've been likely to push that slot (being him, me, and Almost50). I'd be very interested in knowing who you think killed CFJ and why, because having a slot that was gaining as much influence as he has while still having me in his blind spot would've been a very interesting choice of a kill for me.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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I has fever more nap for meScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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So many words. So little reasons.
All you say is "gut". My "gut" says you are scum.
Scum by play is little more than vapors. What are the facts?ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Almost50 and you need rope. So freaking bad.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Explain how Nahdia is seen visiting you and performs the kill. If they were ninja they wouldn't be seen doing anything.
If they were scum they'd have to be scum with you. And you are a VT per my PM from Skull...Sooooo...Nahdia didn't kill you.
This means they cannot be a killer since the start of the game if there is an SK which makes more sense based on this scenario.
So Nahdia is nigh on close to conf town.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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In post 10191, JaeReed wrote:Er... Walk me through how Nahdia can't be one of Gaster's followers? Or how they're scum with me when you have it CONFIRMED to you that I am a VT?
The last question was why it was ridiculous Nahdia was scum. I don't believe that ergo not answering that. Because it's dumb.
Nahdia if she was one of Gaster's followers isn't the person killing people at night more than likely. Notice how Gaster's followers flipped a different color than Gaster. That means it is highly likely that Nahdia is not a killer since Maxous likely wasn't one. Nahdia MIGHT be Gaster's follower but it is almost a certainty that she is not the person who killed CFJ. Which means that the killer is narrowed down.
We need to find the person killing townies repeatedly. We originally estimated 2 or 3 people if Maxous did anything were alignment swapped. So we are likely one or two more reds and a lone killer. This means three scum likely remain who are not you and not me, and IMHO not Nahdia.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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I suggested a lot of things when I was trying to figure out what happened. However that theory becomes much less likely as townies were lynched repeatedly. If a scum team existed and had a culted member I think people would have had major changes in reads and a scum team lynch come up. The most likely scenario is a lone killer.In post 10194, Ankamius wrote:Wasn't it you that initially suggested that the scum team might have been the ones culted?ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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In post 10196, JaeReed wrote:But why would a Nahdia red flip make me scum too? I'm not following that in the slightest.
Why is it not plausible to you that the killings are coming from the followers and Maxous had the kill prior as an SK/Cult Creator upon death type role, which got passed down to his faction?
I don't like that you're SK hunting over scum hunting. I believe the killings are coming from the scum faction, which we now have evidence actually exists and that their roles are irrelevant.
Because I checked you as VT post Maxous. If you were not a VT you wouldn't have given me a VT check. So Nahdia and you scum is ridiculous.
If the second case was true then there were 5 days of which would in essence be unimpeded recruitment. Only one of Gaster's followers has flipped. Meaning 4 would remain. If 4 would remain then SirCakez wouldn't have had any pressure at all and I would have been mislynched. The fact that SirCakez was lynched at all implies that the Gaster's followers are smaller in number.
I am scum hunting and SK hunting. We don't have proof of a "scum" in a traditional sense. We have a group of people no longer aligned with town post Maxous flip that may or may not have a kill.
Furthermore I don't see Maxous if he was the only scum in the entire game outright lying during the claiming period should that be the case. Someone else had to be doing the killing besides Maxous.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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In post 10197, Ankamius wrote:I also thought of a possibility since the fact that there is a specific person that supposedly brings dead players to wherever the dead people go:
It might be possible that Maxous is still in the game, just not publicly.
Sure....And he's writing all of my posts. /sarcasm
The mod posts who is alive in the Vote Counts. Mod doesn't directly lie. Maxous is dead.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Current Vote Count:
(0) Giovanni il Pellegrino
(2) MathBlade -- Almost50, Ankamius
(0) PeregrineV
(0) Nahdia
(0) Ankamius
(0) BigYoshiFan
(1) Almost50 -- MathBlade
(0) JaeReed
Not Voting: Giovanni il Pellegrino, PeregrineV, Nahdia, BigYoshiFan, JaeReed
See all the votes available. Assume Maxous is still alive he'd have a vote.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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In post 10196, JaeReed wrote:But why would a Nahdia red flip make me scum too? I'm not following that in the slightest.
Why is it not plausible to you that the killings are coming from the followers and Maxous had the kill prior as an SK/Cult Creator upon death type role, which got passed down to his faction?
I don't like that you're SK hunting over scum hunting. I believe the killings are coming from the scum faction, which we now have evidence actually exists and that their roles are irrelevant.
Oh and also Nahdia visited you. If she was a roleblocker it was a waste of a check. Like if Nahdia was scum it's quite possibly the worst move Nahdia could have done.
I'm killer hunting. I have to eliminate all non town. They are all of equal importance to me.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Because scum wasted their roleblocker on a confirmed VT explicitly AFTER I said do whatever the fuck you want. They could have easily blocked someone else or only have pretended to do your request and you just live until the next day. The fact they visited you and only you means either they culted you which I doubt based on your posts or Nahdia is town.In post 10203, JaeReed wrote:
No, that means ME scum is ridiculous. Why did you say if Nahdia's scum it is with me? Why can Nahdia not be scum without it being with me?In post 10199, MathBlade wrote:Because I checked you as VT post Maxous. If you were not a VT you wouldn't have given me a VT check. So Nahdia and you scum is ridiculous.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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I doubt this. Otherwise the N5 bit is no longer needed. His play pre and post Maxous was hella different looking back and probably why I was stuck in my townread.In post 10204, JaeReed wrote:CFJ believed that the follower faction could have existed prior to Maxous flip due to the way Cakez distributed his actions and the inventions he possessed, ftr.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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I doubt this. Otherwise having no way of eliminating Maxous being only a bulletproof townie I would instantly lose having no way to complete my wincon unless all Maxous followers have to die. Which in that case Maxous having a PT outside of the game would be irrelevant because I still have to eliminate all non townies and Maxous death is a side benefit. So two options exist there:In post 10205, Ankamius wrote:
Are you forgetting that this is a bastard game and his role already has some bizarre elements to it?In post 10200, MathBlade wrote:In post 10197, Ankamius wrote:I also thought of a possibility since the fact that there is a specific person that supposedly brings dead players to wherever the dead people go:
It might be possible that Maxous is still in the game, just not publicly.
Sure....And he's writing all of my posts. /sarcasm
The mod posts who is alive in the Vote Counts. Mod doesn't directly lie. Maxous is dead.
Him only existing in a PT isn't outside the realm of possibility.
1) Maxous has a PT with his followers still and I have to eliminate all the followers then from my POV I don't give a fuck as I have to eliminate all non town and no followers would end the game.
2) Maxous is dead dead and don't give a fuck.
3) Maxous has a PT and even with no followers he has it. At that point I cannot complete my wincon and would be endgamed.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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In post 10210, MathBlade wrote:
I doubt this. Otherwise having no way of eliminating Maxous being only a bulletproof townie I would instantly lose having no way to complete my wincon unless all Maxous followers have to die. Which in that case Maxous having a PT outside of the game would be irrelevant because I still have to eliminate all non townies and Maxous death is a side benefit. So two options exist there:In post 10205, Ankamius wrote:
Are you forgetting that this is a bastard game and his role already has some bizarre elements to it?In post 10200, MathBlade wrote:In post 10197, Ankamius wrote:I also thought of a possibility since the fact that there is a specific person that supposedly brings dead players to wherever the dead people go:
It might be possible that Maxous is still in the game, just not publicly.
Sure....And he's writing all of my posts. /sarcasm
The mod posts who is alive in the Vote Counts. Mod doesn't directly lie. Maxous is dead.
Him only existing in a PT isn't outside the realm of possibility.
1) Maxous has a PT with his followers still and I have to eliminate all the followers then from my POV I don't give a fuck as I have to eliminate all non town and no followers would end the game.
2) Maxous is dead dead and don't give a fuck.
3) Maxous has a PT and even with no followers he has it. At that point I cannot complete my wincon and would be endgamed.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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In other words. Maxous might have a PT with his followers.
If he does it becomes fundamentally irrelevant to my wincon.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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I am looking for the not town and trying to eliminate them. Either Maxous is eliminated or he isn't. If I have no way to eliminate Maxous then I would be endgamed becuase I would have no way to complete my wincon.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Furthermore if we deal with a cult since the start then the N5 action would be a dud which I hypothesized and I was told NOOOOOOOO that can't be a thing. So which is it guys? I do not believe in a cult since the start so there is likely something killing.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Let's take you one further. Let's assume there was a cult since the start of the game and Maxous did all of the killing as proposed. Yesterday there would be 4 culted people. It took 6 to lynch yesterday.
Those off of it were myself, Nahdia, SirCakez, and Ank.
Unless you believe that is the cult team, which ha ha ha ha, that's insane. Then someone on that would have to be bussing for that to be true. Which then brings up the question of why? They could have gone in here with it being true lylo. A bus doesn't make sense there.
No. The followers were likely invented N5 and something else doing the killing.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Furthermore you'd have to explain how Gio has an innocent on me when he himself would not be scum in that scenario. Please stop pitching scenarios that can't exist in order to have me be scum. It just hurts your brain, wastes our time, and is horribly unproductive.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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VOTE: Ankamius
Hood reasons made me realize Ank is better today.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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I'm town JaeReed but let's do a thought exercise:
1) Assume I am scum preMaxous -- Why would I lynch Maxous of all people? Assume Gio town then I would have to be a godfather. Why would I as scum propose a godfather existing when no one was thinking it?
2) Assume I am scum postMaxous only -- How does Gio's check fail in that case and he still be town? Keep in mind godfather is not an option per SirCakez flip.
Ergo if you think I am scum you should be voting Gio.
Which case do you think I am and why?ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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I am not scum for disagreeing with the person killed. Furthermore his last words per you were to assume I am town. There is no way I would kill someone who townread me. Period. I am not scum. You are going through mental gynmastics after Shadowrun. Stop it. Your paranoia will doom us.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Which is it JaeReed?
Am I SirCakez's buddy or scum at the start of the game?ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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It isn't deflection. You have said I have am scum because I don't agree with CFJ.
I am not deflecting I am literally saying discuss me. I'm asking you to think about not just that I am scum but how I am scum. Because if I am scum it matters what kind of scum. I'm not scum but for case and point.
If I am SirCakez's buddy then what does that mean for the gamestate?
If I am not his buddy what does that mean?
I am not deflecting I'm asking you to go deeper.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Ank can be legit as 3P. He can say who he wants and who is against his plan. I still don't think he can vote nonTown. He never has on a single vote count but I will double check later today. I would expect someone genuinely vote hunting to hit scum at least once.In post 10230, Nahdia wrote:math i really dont want an ank lynch sorry. i still feel they've been legit even through today.
Being "legit" is not an explanation of why they aren't scum.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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