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Because IaI would have worked with Titus saw my claim and tunneled Pepto or Maria R into dust.
Smackdown literally needs Titus to be a rallying cry to lynch scum here.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Titus as scum would not attack masons. She would buddy and kill them. Titus also never busses hardly ever. Between that and the mechanics I strongly think Titus is town I just wish she would talk with me.In post 1029, Vifam wrote:What makes you so sure Titus is townScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Go lynch MariaR and provide input on RAW please.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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I vigged him.
Does anyoneread?
/me cries a bit insideScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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VOTE: VifamScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Spoiler: DiamondSentinelScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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I am saying that Maria+Pepto are that way. You being Vanilla I didn't theorize as you don't post enough. I don't see having three Town vig roles. (Myself plus the two claimed masons).In post 1041, Vifam wrote:So you guys are saying that the team in SD originally started out Me/Maria/Pepto and the only ability scum had aside from their nightkill is a two shot dayvig with restrictionsScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Because in that world it is a high possibility that some players never play. I used my one shot.
Assume I vig D1 and hit town.
Assume 1 NK and one kill from doctor both Town.
Assume "mason" vig D2.
Assume 1 NK and one kill from doctor both Town.
That is 6 Town decimated by day three without a vote. The thread had 13 to start.
If three scum then this is LyLO without having some players required to play ever.
If four that is GG.
I don't believe a mod would allow that possibility.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Without a vote to lynch*
That would be so demoralizing to players thinking they can't do shit and now it is LyLO?
Just no. I don't see a world where Vince does this.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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If you assume I never get traded over then it is still mislynch D1 then could lose the game. I just don't buy the mod would put something like that in.
Pedit Because my highest townread says so and my reads were shit on RAW yesterday.
Both being scum would be ridiculous. Even disregarding balance then players would have to have to accept "randomness" as the best default state. It would potentially win scum or Town the game on a dice flip. Either one is scum or none. Leaning none.
I prefer person thanks for asking.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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That is why I put it day one.In post 1049, Vifam wrote:You're on the opposite brand though, the masons have to be together for them to activate their move the minute one of them is killed/drafted the move is useless. I don't see why it's that unbelievable, especially seeing as you have one shot, and dayvigs are mostly used on D1 before anyone could draft but since Bannana wasn't doing anything it got used later than normal
But a good mod doesn't count for "usual". This site meta is you day vig D1. However in f2f games that is usually not the case. I think some sites are trending later especially as JoATs. I don't see Kuroi putting in a scenario in which a D1 mislynch could lose Town the game.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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After I scream all day about reading both threads people don't read both threads.
*sigh*ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Yes...so? It is still a way Town could lose on D1. I don't see any mod doing that. I also didn't use my vig shot and debated just campaigning for a switch.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Please explain I don't like this fear it might be misunderstood bit.In post 1052, Almost Chara wrote:<redacted>
I rarely ever use vulgarity, but this was so frustrating I went off my way for a second and had to reedit upon revision.
WHY Tywin? And why do it HERE? I'm sure he had something to say that would have probably helped us in this thread as he seemed to be quite the scum hunter. *Sigh*
I have yet to read anything n SD, but I'm going to have to do an ISO of Tywin soon to see how he viewed the situation on both threads.
I have one more thing to say, but -for fear it might be misunderstood- I'm going to keep it to myself for now.
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Oh okay sorry. Just frustrated over not reading. Why play mafia if you won't read?In post 1056, Almost Chara wrote:@Math:
I have yet to read anything on SD TODAY. I've just got in, so reading my own thread first. That's what I meant. I haven't even opened the hydra PT yet to see if Chara had anything to say.
~A50ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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No setup should ever start it is not an auto loss on D1 if...everIn post 1060, Vifam wrote:
It's not an autoloss on D1 if you make the shot over here...while they're in they're in SDIn post 1055, MathBlade wrote:Spoiler: Smackdown
Pedit Vifam
Yes...so? It is still a way Town could lose on D1. I don't see any mod doing that. I also didn't use my vig shot and debated just campaigning for a switch.
That setup doesn't get past any reviewer.
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I said it yesterday when I used it. Before d4 and before LyLO.In post 1063, Vifam wrote:MB what exactly is your restriction to make your shot
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One shot cannot be used after d4 (typo before but no way it wasn't being used then when I scumread DTS so hard) and can't be used in LyLO. That is it yeah.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Because I wasn't sure if it was a restriction or not. I went along with it because calling myself an asshole can be fun and liberating. I talked about it later with Kuroi and it was more flavortext like. Apparently Randy Orton is a mean guy.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Yeah no. Those reads on Smackdown are horrible. There's no way Vifam should be top tier town.
Because Grey is a top tier town read of mine and if Vifam flips town then pretty much that's instant permission for Grey to be the lynch over there.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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I want Titus to chime in.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Doesn't make me conf. However I like you.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Read isn't conf but yeah I am Town no need to quit mafia.
If any of the mason claimed are Town it is Pepto. I don't believe Maria R and that there would be three Town vigs. (Myself plus mason claim) I just don't see it.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Mason fake claims are more prevalent than one thinks.In post 1083, Kmd4390 wrote:If one mason is town, why would they lie about the other?
They obviously share alignment.
Likely both town.
They can be used and then ask not to touch them. Three day vigs is too many for this setup.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Like...wtf?!?!
VOTE: UnvoteScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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How the hell is there a setup that could cause Town to lose if they fucking mislynch D1 in this setup. Wtf?ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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I am going to bed three vigs in a game and a Town dog that kills...Just no.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Doc*ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Looks like light ganski?
Anywho I think all my reads are jack shit backwards possibly. My brain is mindfucked.
I would have lynched the mason claims in a heart beat three vigs in this many players is crap.
Vifam talk with me about your reads?ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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McMenno is kinda who I want to leave alone. Reason being is he seems like the easy mislynch.
After rereading my gut still says Pep.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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VOTE: PepochoningaScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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So let's start from what we know:
Vifam is confirmed town unless 5 scum in 13 which is shit.
AC is likely town because of PR results on Nero claimed. If he doesn't get killed before LyLO then reexamine here.
Since there were 4 scum there then 3 or 4 scum makes sense.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Pepochinga (1/5) - MathBlade
MathBlade (1/5) - Pepchoninga
Luv - AC,McMenno
Not Voting: Ms. Columbo, Kmd4390, Lil Uzi Vert, Malpascp
With 3 or 4 scum if LUV was Town scum would just win the game unless AC and McMenno are scum together.
Since scum did not dogpile on Pepochinga this means either Pepochinga is scum or there are three scum.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Well it could also be three scum and one of AC /McMenno differing alignments and not the other.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Either way there is some severe questions that need answered:
Why was Tywinn killed over an exposed PR soft?
Why was I left alive when no one except Pep scumreads me?
The twyinn move is rather odd.
It actually makes me think AC is scum.
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That move of Tywinn caused LyLO over there and with how messed up three Town vigs is I think you traded for that reason. You didn't give Titus or Grey because you knew they were scum and it was all for show.
Dodge I owe you an apology.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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I don't see a good McMenno scum case.In post 1137, Vifam wrote:Lets lynch McMenno today
If McMenno flips town look into Malp/Uzi/Pep/ColomboScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Furthermore AC asked if I could work with Titus if they traded me.
If AC knew Nero was going over like he seemed to imply that meant he had to take a Town away else it wouldn't be LyLO and then people would flip on Titus. So Tywinn had to be the kill in case masons weren't lynched we would have no info to work with.
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I think I am getting there actually. Trying to figure out who is scum with AC. But I still think at least 3 scum.In post 1140, Vifam wrote:I think KMD is town, at the very least Pep/KMD aren't scum together I thinkScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Cool is irrelevant. Do you agree?In post 1143, Vifam wrote:That's a cool theoryScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Mainly here. If A50 was town he'd just say he'd never make a case or rage at me in bold letters whenever I don't do what he wants. Here with Leonshade it's a different approach. No one makes A50 do anything.In post 203, Almost Chara wrote:@Leon:
I HATE YOU for making me do this. You should know (and most of those who played more than one game with me do know) one of my weakest aspects of the game is trying to make cases, whether these are scum or town cases. I'll do my best though.
Nero came out of the gate blazing. He did not even use his site-meta earned right to RVS, but rather expressed a scum read on KMD and voted there. Furthermore, he didn't hesitate in voicing out hi opinion on SD (sum reading Maria) when it was still debatable whether scum hunting in SD was considered scummy or not.
In other words, Nero makes no reservations and is paying little if any attention how anyone could try to angle-shoot his play. This -to me- is genuine aggressive scum hunting, which makes him Town in my eyes.
As for you, your #31 contained 3 lines: 1: Sarcasm. NAI, 2: defending McMenno. Minor Town credit, 3: Town reading Narna. More Town cred.
Your #71 looks more detailed in why you defended McMenno, and has a true statement in that scum will likely push on a joke as they tend to try to find "something" to start their attack on Town. So, not only did you not join the push, you defended McMenno with reason and logic.
Still, I've put you as my 4th on the list, so if it comes down to you vs Narna, Nero or McMenno I'd be lynching you over any of them. However, I don't wan you gone over anyone else apart from those 3, and we only have one lynch, so I'm trying to narrow down my options for the day.
@Narna:
Unfortunately we canNOT draft KT over here no matter what he says he is. First; until he DOES start producing results there's nothing confirmed about his role to begin with. Second; his play is annoying I'd rather be lynched myself over bringing him to play in my own brand, let alone by my own choice. Third; it's not just me. There are several players who feel uncomfortable with KT's play, and it's not going to be any smoother if we had him here. The noise he produces could very much cloud the air to the point we can't see scum mooning us and brushing their behinds to our faces. Why would I want to poison the air in my brand's thread?
In short, we have several other choices that are all better than KT to bring over here. Titus (if not the one massive picks to be undraftable) is a great choice. Tywin (Obv!Town in my book) is a good choice too. Grey (whom you seem to have reservations over) I have a Town lean on for both his play of late AND Titus being confident of his alignment (Titus can tunnel town thinking they might be scum, but rarely ever gets stubborn over a town read if she's not fairly confident in it). Maria is my own Town read, but I might not draft her for fear she might work as a distraction to Nero. Vifam is another alternative I might consider since both our slot (myself and Chara) and Nero Cain are leaning Town on him.
So, FIVE alternatives to pick from there with 2 that I don't think anyone could argue against.
Suffice it to say, our choices are:
- Titus: Top choice if she is draftable.
- Tywin: No problem here, but Titus wants him there
- Maria: My personal preferred 3rd choice, but Nero doesn't like her
- Grey: Looks like a decent pick, but you (my top Town read) seem to have reservations
- Vifam: May be the best compromise draft if Titus isn't on the table considering they don't like him much there as we do here
P.S. Your feedback is VERY appreciated. I won't try to run this brand as a dictator unless I'm forced to. Both myself and Chara agree that we can properly play our role w/o being total jerks about it.
P-edit:
I may have misunderstood, but if by "double-lynch" you mean using a finisher AND having a normal lynch, I believe Vince said somewhere that someone tapping out WILL end the day. Apologies in advance if I did misunderstand.
~A50
That post is just disgusting.
I think another reason Leonshade wasn't kept around was that he wasn't obv town. The townread at this point by AC was completely unjustified.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Fine. Lynch me. I flip Town then flip AC.In post 1154, Almost Chara wrote:Explanation to the rest:
I'm positive there's AT LEAST one Scumster in these two, but it's possible they both are. Once it became apparent LUV could be lynched, Math decided to flip their TR on us (being the strongest pushers of LUV) in an attempt to save their scum p.
I do acknowledge it "could" still be Town!math "doing what they do best", but I very much doubt it being the case.
Anyway, the decision is yours. Flip the scummiest of all a give Math the benefit of doubt, OR flip Math and if/when they flip RED then LUV is finally CONFIRMED SCUM.
My problem is: In the off chance Math flips Town, we would probably be throwing the game with LUV given a pass to endgame. I would still rather see his head rolling and him walking out the door in shame. (Besides, with his in-game character, who doen't want to see "her stripped off.." er.. her title!!
~A50
The only reason he suspected me is I suspected him.
All AC's reasons look like things AC decided to find to support their case rather than something they believe.
AC asked me if I could work with Titus in thread. He now uses that against me.
He also assumes that I am a scum dayvig but if I was a scum dayvig then that is equivalent to having 4 scumteam members which would mean that his world cannot work.
AC pushes out of self survival. I don't have much time today but that is what I do have with the time I do.
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Randy Orton vaults over the side of the ring and pumps his fists together.
"I really think AC is scum here it is a shame that he glaciated this and only posted his suspicion after I posted mine. This is just bad shit."
Sorta like the storm that broke my car window. I will RKO the storm.
(OOC: Will do what I can but seriously a storm broke out my car window and I have to fix it tomorrow.)
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I prefer no lynch. As soon as I suspected AC AC gladiated.
I find the odds of LUV being scum to that slim to none.
I know I am Town.
If we have to lynch then I would say Uzi and if Uzi flips Town I propose an unofficial gladiator between AC and myself.
Six to Seven scum in a 26 player game (13 each side) makes sense.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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My actions are explained. I vigged a person I genuinely thought scum.In post 1194, Almost Chara wrote:
Geez! What happened to the 3-4 scum still in THIS BRAND theory? And if you did believe there's a 5% chance there are 4 scums in here then HOW THE HELL is a NO LYNCH a better course of action? Scum will just kill someone at night and have their win in that case.In post 1193, MathBlade wrote:Six to Seven scum in a 26 player game (13 each side) makes sense.
Also, why is Uzi suddenly has "odds of being scum slim to none."??
Last, but NOT least: WHERE IS YOUR EXPLANATION ABOUT YOUR OWN ACTIONS??
~A50
About the number of scum, I still think it applies.
The odds of Uzi being scum are because you gladiatored myself and Uzi rather than letting me hunt and see if my theory was right. Instead because I suspected you you put us together. If the choices are Town or no one no one is the better option.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Yes I am one shot and based on the Smackdown flips and the fact the game could end on one mislynch there IMHO are huge balance issues with this. If I wasn't I would have vigged AC for the horrible gladiate and accepted being voteless tomorrow.In post 1196, malpascp wrote:@Math: did you only have one shot? I know what you've said before but I want you to confirm it given it should be the only possible way of ending the day besides lynching you or LUV.
Brands not having identical setups would ruin balance, fairness, and a whole lot of other shit. AC is town and there's 2 scum left here in my eyes, until another flip or ability makes me think otherwise. I've seen so many of you saying the opposite, but never saw a real reason behind it. I might even go back for a quick re-read and check who seemed to have setup info beyond what Town does.
@AC: who'd you rather have lynched today?
Pedit: can you chill already? You don't seem to be mad at them since you have so many townreads... Care to update on that?ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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So already the setups are different far as I can tell.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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1) The townread (if genuine which I doubt) is not what I am attacking you over. It is that you asked if I could work with her meaning that you were investigating if I was trusting scum or not. I wanted to be in the same brand as her to work with her on the Mason CC three vigs in this setup is shit. I felt a hell of a lot more confident in the mason scumread based on a setup having three vigs is ridiculous.
2) He was my highest town read. Based how votes were going I townread Titus and Grey but I just had the alignments backwards. That sometimes happens in my town games.
3) I did not believe the mason claim as I am a one shot Town vig. I have stated this numerous times.
4) When you get a lot of input you change things you also crumbed a PR role (will get it). That was the justification that you were fine going along with til I suspected you. Then you gladiate me.
And on your smirk statement I do not believe you.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 7#p8708797In post 484, Almost Chara wrote:@LUV:
Then you're probably be even less encouraged by what I have to say.
First off: Your reads SUCK BIG TIME. I'm 95+ % confident Nero is Town. It has to do with both his play and "something mechanical" that I'm not revealing.
Then McMenno is also Town.. like 90%
And -of course- I'm not allowed to vouch for our own slot, so... I'll let those who have played with both heads multiple times before decide on that.
Oh, and let's not forget you didn't even make it a secret you were surprised our strongest Town read actually flipped Town!! (I'm talking about Narna for those who are not closely following this thread).
Now, why do I get the feeling that your scum reads on all 3 of us have all arrived at the most convenient of times right after Nero had said something about him expecting you to scum read the wagon on Penguinos? I know, I know.. you didn't feel too comfortable with McMenno already, but let's agree to disagree there. But how come you are now scum reading Nero and our slot? Is it because Nero is pointing out flaws in your play and we happen to agree? Please show us a case on any of the 3 slots you're scum reading for us to consider.
That should be all for now.
@Vifam:
Now I suspect you do know this, but I wanted to make it absolutely clear that we are Town reading you, and we believe you have good reads. The reason for my personal faith in you was pointed out in our previous game together in which you were scum and I called you out for it, but you somehow managed to discredit yourself as a player to discredit our scum read on you.
Anyway, I'm expecting just a little more from you here, and I'd very much appreciate it if we could lynch scum today with your help.
@Kmd:
I fully agree that “not wanting that lynch doesn't make LUV scum”. HOWEVER, he did not provide an alternative or propose a different course. To me, he did want that lynch. He just didn't want to look connected to it. He tried to earn Town credit by pretending not to want that lynch, but by providing no alternative course he knew we would finally be lynching the Penguinos slot because it's better than a No Lynch by all means.
He claimed the case was weak, right? Yet when asked for his own reads he had no stron scum reads, meaning he wasn't ready to push anyone else, and THAT is my problem (and I think that's what Nero's been trying to say).
@EVERYBODY:
Now get the freak off Nero and McMenno already. There are 3 slots we won't be lynching today and these are Nero, McMenno & Vifam. If you're scum reading any of them; I won't ask you to reconsider, but I WILL ask you to go for the next one on your list.
There are 8 other slots for you to pick from (yes, I'm ok with you voting us and I promise not to interfere with your decision to do so as a manager), but you're not lynching our OBV!Town players. So, either present a good case on someone else or try to obv!Town yourself.
~A50
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I find it hard to believe you had a mechanical read on Nero and can gladiate and still be Town.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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In post 1220, Pepchoninga wrote:
Wtf is this post?In post 1193, MathBlade wrote:I prefer no lynch. As soon as I suspected AC AC gladiated.
I find the odds of LUV being scum to that slim to none.
I know I am Town.
If we have to lynch then I would say Uzi and if Uzi flips Town I propose an unofficial gladiator between AC and myself.
Six to Seven scum in a 26 player game (13 each side) makes sense.
First you say that no lynch is better. Like how is it better? Even now, no lynch is pretty stupid.
Second you say that the chances of LUV being scum are slim. THEN you say that if we have to lynch, we should lynch LUV...
That is lolfull. (Considering that LUV is liz uni)
Correct.
If the only choices are Town or no lynch. No lynch is inherently better.
I know I am Town. That means unless LUV is scum it is a mislynch.
I know that you didn't suspect me until I suspected you and this was a big OMGUS.
So in all likelihood LUV is town. However if we do have to lynch then LUV is it because from my POV LUV is the only possible scum of us both.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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I don't make posts to players. I make posts to the thread.
My scumwin rate disagrees with you.
This is my town play after incorporating feedback.
I am limiting my OMGUS to being suspected in town games like this one and looking at why.
Your sudden shift has no basis.
Your gladiator of a townread with LUV makes no sense. Sure you posted a lot of words but at the end of the day you went from unlynchable to scum.
This is not Town A50.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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If LuV flips Town I am tunneling your ass so hard that you probably wouldn't find it with directions.In post 1236, Almost Chara wrote:
My sentiment exactly, except I'm taking it one step further and black listing him regardless of his alignment. People who do not wish to play should NOT sign up to games. If you are a pathetic PERSON don't take it out on us and do a GRINCH to steal away our fun playing this game.In post 1234, malpascp wrote:dunno if AtE, caught scum, or soon-to-be-blacklisted town
really hoping you're scum here, and if so, thank you
you should at least try and entertain us a bit so we can guess who your teammate is
Now back to the game: Someone please finish this one off. If -by any chance- LUV flips green then I will hand over the Town leadership to Vifam and sit aside sheeping him for the rest of the game.
~A50
I also want to see more content from the stragglers.
But yeah posting to say you aren't posting anymore is shit. Deserves force replace or something.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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So Almost and Pep are confirmed scum.
3 scum each team makes sense.
Probably LyLO and Almost50 had to likely discharge gladiator before LyLO.
The fact this game isn't over makes Pep scum.
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Malpa is town stop that.
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...Malpa is not getting lynched ever. I will die before Malpa.In post 1248, Kmd4390 wrote:I don't think the vifam shot had anything to do with his reads. We were treating him as confirmed town.
No, the flips didn't change anything for me. Lil was a PoE scum read at most for me. Him flipping town doesn't mean much. If anything, it means there was probably scum on the wagon, but malpa is there along with anyone else that could be scum (mathblade being the only one off the wagon who could be scum) so nothing really changes there either. And Vifam being town is something we pretty much all could have predicted. So, again, I don't have any new info today and can't really think of a reason to change what I'm doing which is voting malpa and thinking the other scum has to be in math/columbo because mcmenno is a stronger town read than them, you (almost) are a stronger town read than that, and pep is definitely town.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Is Kmd the third scum and scum set up two wagons to just wait on a townie to vote?ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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So that means Pep not conf scum in that case
Only A50/Kmd/one of McMenno/Pep
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