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MariaR wrote:Yes I'm 100% trying to get towncred off my acting innocent thing is it working
It's not the sort of thing you get towncred off of, it's something that sets the stage for how people read you.
Well that's not even what he said technicallyAndrius wrote:
That's not why she's town.In post 5307, Zachstralkita wrote:As for Maria I can't say the whole acting innocent gimmick makes her townie at all
Despite my scumread on Nacho, he was right, you're only really concerned about the game as it pertains to wagons you're attempting to derail (namely your own). Calling people on your wagon dumb is pointless.
And Gerry isn't on my wagon. He didn't give any indication on what changed his thought process from one page ago so I am inclined to think he suffered a lapse in judgement.
Not sure why you guys keep bringing this up as a talking point. Who gives two flying fucks and an ostrich dick how I post in relation to the game. You've been scum, Andrius, but you and everyone I categorize alongside you are going to have to put in a decent amount of work if you want to lynch me.-
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In post 5156, Zachstralkita wrote:Like, the volume of this game, the amount of stuff and the amount of players who are considered [good] or [more than good] means if you're looking for a lynch on me, you either
1) have no desire to solve
2) have no idea how to read between the lines
3) want to lynch me because you don't like the way I post
4) think the way I post or my lack of content aids scum and is reason enough for lynch, when in reality lynching me is more antitown so this point is voided
5) are scum
6) I only post when I'm being pushed? Were that true I should have like 4 posts Day 1.
This post is still true
Tell me what wagon I'm derailing wrt all of my interactions with Maria today? Or have you just ignored the fact that I've been probing for her thought processes and the responses she's given me haven't been satisfactory at all.
My actions are nowhere near as linear as you, Tammy, Sly, Nacho, or SAD have made them out to be, even stretching back to Day 1.. Believing as such just indicates you don't give a shit about context.
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What do you mean? Also do you really think as scum I would be going likeIn post 5310, Zachstralkita wrote:
It's not the sort of thing you get towncred off of, it's something that sets the stage for how people read you.MariaR wrote:Yes I'm 100% trying to get towncred off my acting innocent thing is it workinggiggle tr me for being like this~When I did the SAME thing when you were my mafia partner
It's an undertone of your posting that if faked presents a fabricated understanding of the game state.
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That's not a TLDR of my ISO
That's you half assing a lynch
and it's probably going to work with this crowd
MariaR wrote:Zach please try and explain your lovely logic to me when you get back and maybe I'll change my mind.
Pedit: It's not.
So you didn't ask for an explanation before the vote at all.. which would have been the most appropriate time and now you want me to appease you. Yep. That's not scummy at all..
Nope, all of you fuck off you're not going to strong arm my lynch. If your position isn't based in emotion then it is in conf bias or simply you're just scum, which is what I'm leaning toward. The one thing I can't attribute to either alignment easily is the jumping off the hinges at everyone who scumreads you. I'd vote you here but no traction and I need traction to combat my own lynch.
Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Maria this is a town wagon do not let frustration equate to scumreading.
Are you sure this is your position? Your read on me changes on a dime with the flimsiest reasons. Pretty sure we're 1 Tammy post away from you voting me.Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:
This is a townpost too if he was scum he would love to 1v1 or 1v2 not ask for help because he's annoyed.In post 5326, Zachstralkita wrote:Someone sensible please intervene I am not level headed enough to be responding right now-
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I don't believe you're scum at all, SAD, just that your convictions on me are subject to change with more ease than most.
This has no relevance on the current situation. You've taken two things and placed them on the same level, completely oblivious to just about every other variable conceivable. That's not how you do investigative work. It's how you conf bias because you don't care to solve.MariaR wrote:"I'm going to leave because you are clearly delusional you're full of it everything you say about me doesn't make any sense I'm gonna stay away from my keyboard because I can't with you I'm gonna come back later when someone with sense starts talking."
What is this? A post from a forum maf game that I played on my home site I backed off because of stuff like this but it kept getting worse so when I pushed it I got killed that night that guy was scum and won the game.
Posts like that don't effect me.
This came after the voteMariaR wrote:In post 5315, Zachstralkita wrote:You don't understand what I'm sayingIn post 5317, MariaR wrote:Then tell me what I'm not understanding
Pedit: Sadly Pine isn't happening today. You can though.
Isaidit came after the vote when if you really cared you would have asked for the explanation first
No I'm not.MariaR wrote:You made up so much bs zach I an done with your ass and you're getting lycnhed
VOTE HIM YOU MORONS
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MariaR wrote:Go on explain your logic come on now.
You would first need to explain what you think I said for me to explain what I was saying.
This quote does nothing in the way of explanation. I have no idea what it means.In post 5314, MariaR wrote:VOTE: Zach you are posting bs IF I acted like that then you could post that but I haven't faked the game state what so ever so what need is there to post that? Just to shade me-
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Let me preface this by saying the above does not make any fucking sense. Let me also preface it by saying this is not what I said.In post 5343, MariaR wrote:You said I'm trying to fake innocence for town points or how I am faking a way like I won't know the game state where that is bs because I haven't done that aka you're S C U M
So basically as scum you have to play like you have less understanding of the game than you do. People have to interact with this personality and you have to make it convincing. Which is relatively easy for you. You genuinely act like you don't know what you're doing and you need to be guided. Except for when someone scumreads you, then you know you have to lynch them. I also think you have provided nothing even resembling a case on your main Pine scumread. I posted a few quotes I could find when I skimmed your ISO. The rest of the "Pines" in your ISO are just mentions of his name. There's nothing really substantial, and when I asked for your reasons you just told me to read day 1. You said it yourself, you played like this when you were scum with me. I'm getting the same vibe here, with a few twists added. You said " I played like this when I was scum with you! Do you think I would do it again!" and I said yep. Then you voted me.In post 5310, Zachstralkita wrote:MariaR wrote:Yes I'm 100% trying to get towncred off my acting innocent thing is it working
It's not the sort of thing you get towncred off of, it's something that sets the stage for how people read you.
I mean my Sly case is weak but that's because I haven't bothered to make a case. It should be evident by how the dude responded to his wagon. I don't think he's interested in identifying the mistaken judgements and correcting them of any town that may be on his wagon. I think he's just settled on calling me scum and a few others. I don't think it's a town response at all. Can someone point me to town responses with his wagon?
I feel like there should be a better default response to people doubting your role than " well duhh the flavor doesnt work without MY ROLEEEEEEEEEE!"
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In post 5359, SlySly wrote:
What's to respond to? I've already claimed. I've already explained the claim in detail. Feel free to go review my interaction with Deserado if you need a refresher.In post 5346, Zachstralkita wrote:It should be evident by how the dude responded to his wagon. I don't think he's interested in identifying the mistaken judgements and correcting them of any town that may be on his wagon.
I've pointed out some of your scumminess.In post 5306, Zachstralkita wrote:I don't even think he has said why I'm scum barring my push on him.
In my 5213-14
My original vote, was a combination of your tunneling of me, which I can see as the town being tunneled, and a call to arms by fellow Strahdians.
I've seen the same tunneling on me from SAD all day, too. It wouldn't surprise me one bit to see you and SAD flip as scum buddies.
ok well your original reasoning is full of shit.
The post you linked happened toDay. You've held a very unsubstantiated scumread on me-
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In post 5359, SlySly wrote: My original vote, was a combination of your tunneling of me, which I can see as the town being tunneled, and a call to arms by fellow Strahdians.
I've seen the same tunneling on me from SAD all day, too. It wouldn't surprise me one bit to see you and SAD flip as scum buddies.
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You should put this at the bottom of every post you makeIn post 5410, Andrius wrote:Mistakes were made-
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In post 5099, Zachstralkita wrote:Actually I need most of you motherfuckers on this Sly wagon to rehash your reasons cause far as I recall that was the NO NO wagon day one when dreal and I were pushing it
like when I asked this
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In post 5532, drealmerz7 wrote:it's like people have no idea how to do associative detective work
slysly or andrius need to die today, it's fucking simple, anyone not making it that simple are slysly and andrius and whatever scum-buddies they might have and townies who are allowing their fear and doubt and the influence of scum to dictate their actions
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In post 5568, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:
LOL?In post 5549, Zachstralkita wrote:The way this wagon snapped into action seems like an obvious cw to scumSly it's too artificial
This is blatant.
Are you people delusional?
I've been trying to get people on Sly for literally ages now but people continuously get distracted by Nacho or something.
If sly will happen sure. But the way dreamz is flailing is fantastic and I love it. You seem to be opposed to any type of pressure or literally anything. Seriously, if you're not scum after game we need to have a serious sit down because the way you play the game and derail wagons is extremely anti-town. Let people react without you interjecting and calling a wagon bad before someone even reacted.
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You're about the 4th person who's said this shit and all it's indicative of is you don't actually read my postingIn post 5604, Toogeloo wrote: He does nothing except every now and run gone in to complain that someone has voted for him for acting like scum.-
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Way to pick the only two alignments I could be, nice detective work
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In post 5621, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:
I tracked you to Tammy last night.In post 5619, drealmerz7 wrote:why are you so insistant that I'm scum? it's silly
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In post 5782, Andrius wrote:drealmerz has been calling me scum all game, for example.
He's made zero effort to push a wagon on me. Instead he pushed Sly, who flipped town, and doesn't re-evaluate his reads.
I doubt that there is correlation though seems like you would just rather use Sly's flip as leverage to discredit him.
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In post 5547, Zachstralkita wrote:Pine you KNOW drealmerz says that you were in Large Normal 200 Day 1
You know what he played like there too and you're acting blind to it now because he's not being scummy
Why did I forget about this shit
Pines rxn to dreal yesterday was scummy as fuck .
Pine has enough games with dreal to where he knows exactly how dreal acts when dreal is voted pressured or pushed with a case he views as unreasonable.
Yet he acts blind to it here.
he went to really scummy to me I'm inclined to agree with Maria for once
Okay well, you're full of shit. Click on my ISO and the first post is "n0 guilty peek Creature" with a vote. A vote which I change one post later. Yeah, you really need to find out if it's distancing, don't you?Pine wrote: Need to ISO Zach. My TR of him is stale, and I'm concerned he's coasting. Noticed that early vote on Creature and moving off of it. Need to see if that was just an RVS vote or whether it looks like distancing.
Your posting is fake.
VOTE: Pine-
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This is different from my Sly read which I was dead wrong on. Note I townread Pine a lot of yesterday before the drealmerz thing happened. Now I am re evaluating my thought processes.
I've played 4 games with Pine. This would be the 5th.
Of those 4 , 3 have been scum games.
I've called him as scum in 2/3 of those games.
My intent is not at all to imply that I am good at reading Pine, but it's a track record that shows I can actually back my feelings up.
He's taking a head on approach because Pine scum plays like that, he likes being in the crowd and letting people know about it. He's good at manipulating people.
I'm not good at articulating stuff but heed my point about him WRT drealmerz. It reads so fake given the context. He can't ACTUALLY believe that.
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He doesn't give a fuck about [expending effort] when it's not toward something he's lynched, which is bad if he's wrong on a readIn post 5923, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Seriously gerry + dreamz's attitude of "I don't give a fuck about the game lololol" "Oh holy you're gonna lynch me you're all fucking stupid how can people be this bad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Yeah okay.
I haven't seen scum drealmerz.. if I'm not mistaken he's been town in all the games I've completed with him and he's acted exactly like the reasons he is being lynched for
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In post 5929, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:
I can't take your posts seriously anymore. You just derail every wagon and the one wagon where you pushed (slysly) was town.In post 5927, Zachstralkita wrote:He doesn't give a fuck about [expending effort] when it's not toward something he's lynched, which is bad if he's wrong on a read
I haven't seen scum drealmerz.. if I'm not mistaken he's been town in all the games I've completed with him and he's acted exactly like the reasons he is being lynched for
It's not scum behavior imo
"Trust me dreamz is 100% town" "I haven't ever seen him as scum but trust me!".
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Let's take a look at this compelling incriminating evidence: The first 4 posts in my ISOIn post 5866, Pine wrote: Noticed that early vote on Creature and moving off of it. Need to see if that was just an RVS vote or whether it looks like distancing.
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Wow Yeah Pine... definitely something you need to investigate isnt it.... you're very deductiv.e....
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Also with gerry's mystery role
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fire why did you fake that guilty on nacho
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In post 6245, Desperado wrote:partner is still zach tbh
You're gonna be disappointed
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In post 6305, drealmerz7 wrote:it's disconcerting that you're so entertained by such an obvious possibility, SAD-
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