BIOCHEMISTRY - game over, finally, it's only been 5 months

[beeboy]

VOTE: beeboy
See ya guys D2.

Declaration of war has been noted.

I'd vote you but I banking on someone not counting the votes and having us ML gork.

VOTE: Gork

[beeboy]

Firebringer is probably town.

[beeboy]

Firebringer is probably town.

Eh, I could see this as an early attempt to distance.

I feel like he is actually trying to make something out of the filler section of the game we have all seen 100x.

[beeboy]

Towns {R&A, Yoshi, Vifam, SAD, Spiffeh}

Scum Butts {Titusdra, Rem and Ram}


Is this enough content guys?

[beeboy]

Oh and my hero Gork is also town.

[beeboy]

VOTE: Titusdra

I am more used to Titus coming out of the gates pressuring people to get reads, this Titus just feels so buddy buddy and I don't like it.

[beeboy]

Scum Butts {Titusdra, Rem and Ram}

In what world do you think two scum are in the same neighborhood together?
-Rem (Ali)

This game would be a little broken if all the scum where divided perfectly evenly among all 4 of the neighborhoods since lynching one would would basically confirm everyone else as town.
I mean it is possible but it is not going to be an assumption I am going to make.

In my first ever scum game I was in a 2 person neighborhood with my scum buddy. So very possible in all honesty. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[beeboy]

I don't like how they outed there entire neighborhood.
Looked very much like scum "helping" by doing something that accomplishes literally nothing.

[beeboy]

Like who actually gains anything by knowing that?

[beeboy]

Like who actually gains anything by knowing that?

We all individually came out so I don't see why you think this is a problem

I don't think it was anti town to do so. I just literally don't see the point in saying that and it just seems like those information based posts noob scum like to make to raise the word count in there ISO.

[beeboy]

Actually it isn't even a noob scum thing, it is a scum scum thing.

[beeboy]

Then vote voices of truth ezpz.

[beeboy]

^@Vifam

[beeboy]

Scum already know who is in every neighborhood.

Yeah im kinda regreting posting in my hood already.

Y

[beeboy]

And what happened in Tarot?
I really never read that game and won't do so from my phone.

[beeboy]

What part of posting "hi" and "this reminds of tarot" is really something you regret? Or is your issue the one SAD has where you don't want people to know you are in the hood?

I am trying to wrap my head around what part of your posts you regret.

[beeboy]

Wait I get it PR stuff my bad

[beeboy]

beeboy is a good candidate for scum

PEdit: @Gorkington do you have any scum reads currently?

Cause my posts are too cutesy or w/e you said?

[beeboy]

I think he means your not trying.
At least that's why I would think your scum right now.

-Rick

Oh yeah I forgot you wanted me to explain my reads, might as well do it now since I have my laptop on me at lunch.

Spiffeh: I think he is town because he has basically been pressuring from our neighborhood from the pregame which is pretty town. I don't really think he is scum trying to ML me either because he pursued me a lot harder at the start of cheetory mafia when he was trying to ML me.

Gork: I liked the way he was pressuring your slot and he feels a lot more engaged then he did in Plotinus and Cheetory mafia and I don't think Gork is a player that gets more engaged by town (please correct me on this if I am wrong).

R&A: I liked your early posting and as scum I recall you just stated reads and pushed people while in this game I feel like you are asking more questions and actually trying to solve the game rather then just pushing people and making analysis.

SAD: A combination of his troll posts and game solving makes me feel like he is town.

Yoshi: mainly just gut tbh.

Vifam: Feels like he is proactively trying to solve the game and use his vote to do things so town.


My reads haven't really changed much from the last time I posted in all honesty.

[beeboy]

A part of me thinks Sakura is town because I know for a fact that when she says she is apathetic about trying to solve the game she isn't lying.
But basically I think that Sakura is really apathetic about mafia right now and is posting a lot more then I otherwise would expect her to as scum. But at the same time the reasons for that make her apathetic about not wanting to try to put a lot effort into solving games may not actually effect her scum game.
I am leaning town but I am putting a lot of thought into this read still especially given nothing about her posts itself actually stand out to me either way.

[beeboy]

speaking of wagons now that Titus asked some meaningless questions and did a fake desperado shot can we vote her some more.

[beeboy]

Beeboy how you know the Desperado is fake?
-Ali

Just guessing based on how she wouldn't have used it so soon in the game.

[beeboy]

its pretty obviously fake.

also just this

[beeboy]

I mean people here often fake dayvigs, masonries, desperado's not out of the question, specially with how she went about it and asked ppl who was dead.

Speaking of fake claims you guys are going to be surprised later this game.

[beeboy]

I wish cops weren't a thing.

[beeboy]

I wish cops weren't a thing.

You still mad about that?

I already hated cops before that game. I don't like the concept of a near 0 draw back role that almost always gives positive results outside cases of redirection and godfather. Playing one in NY 196 as a cop basically killed my enjoyment of that game because I had to play around my role so heavily because of how powerful it was.

I really stopped being upset about that like after 3 days and idk why you still think I care, you reading me as scum and pushing me or being any other PR (in a role madness game) would have ended in my lynch at some point anyway.

[beeboy]

I wish cops weren't a thing.

You still mad about that?

I already hated cops before that game. I don't like the concept of a near 0 draw back role that almost always gives positive results outside cases of redirection and godfather. Playing one in NY 196 as a cop basically killed my enjoyment of that game because I had to play around my role so heavily because of how powerful it was.

I really stopped being upset about that like after 3 days and idk why you still think I care, you reading me as scum and pushing me or being any other PR (in a role madness game) would have ended in my lynch at some point anyway.

You bring this up a lot, you played better then me and happened to be a PR I hate I don't really hold that against you.

[beeboy]

Getting Titusdra votes is hard.

[beeboy]

Who isn't down to vote Titus and why are you that way?

[beeboy]

SAD can you raise me a tier?
I am very much town and your read list hurts my feelings

[beeboy]

No there's always one scum who defends me when I'm being wagoned I suspect that's you.

Y

[beeboy]

No there's always one scum who defends me when I'm being wagoned I suspect that's you.

Y

Also how am I defending you.

[beeboy]

Titus has posted a decent amount since you called her "obv scum". What do you think of her recent contributions?

I didn't think her interactions with Sakura meant much.
I don't think her desperado was townie because fake day vigs almost never get anyone anywhere and Titus knows that.
750 was sort of alright but I know Titus is capable of more.

Also ThinkBig is basically ded this entire game.

[beeboy]

SAD I still want to know why I am scum and know how I am defending you.

[beeboy]

Like if I am going out of my way to bus Titus and you are still going to scum read me I want good reasons as to why.

[beeboy]

There are five categories:

{Rem and Ram, Gorkington, Majiffy}
{BigYoshiFan, Voices of Truth, Creature}
{Spiffeh, MagnaofIllusion, Sakura Hana, Rick and Andrea}
{Marquis, Ser Arthur Dayne, beeboy, Vifam}
{kuror0, Steven Quartz, Vecna}

Unlikely for there to be more than two scum in a category.

Why are both the lurkers in the lowest category and why are you scum reading Marquis and Vifam.

[beeboy]

[beeboy]

Maybe SAD will reply to me one day :<

[beeboy]

Maybe SAD will reply to me one day :<

Maybe!

We can only hope and wait.

[beeboy]

Why do half the people who play mafia not actually like mafia?

[beeboy]

Don't lynch me I am innocent.

[beeboy]

Ima go post more reads and then get scum read because I don't have time to push people.

[beeboy]

Ser Arthur Dayne - I still think his posting is town (his wagon analysis was good and lined up with his "I like to be wagoned" thing), I still don't like how he hasn't pressured me or addressed his read on me like ever. I also don't like how earlier in the game he posted something about wanting to interact with the neighborhood.
MagnaofIllusion - I usually see MOI post more I want to try and sort this slot
Gorkington - He feels more engaged then what I have seen from him before. Although that is kinda falling off a bit.
Spiffeh - I still liked how he was actively pressuring me a lot in the early game (even the pregame which felt really town) so town.
Rem and Ram - Starting to change my mind on this slot a few of there posts seem kinda odd for scum to make I'd elaborate but I have 10 minutes to make this post before I get stuck mobile posting.
Sakura Hana - She is a bit too apathetic for me to read her his game but once I take that into consideration and see how she is trying to solve the game when she could probably coast on her apathy thing a bit harder and have me defend her it (cause I do have OOG reasons to know she is apathetic and she knows that) I'll just roll with town for the time being.
Rick and Andrea (Firebringer and MariaR)
Vifam - Still think the way he is pressuring people is town.
kuror0 - He has been trying to interact in our neighborhood ever so slightly but idk
Vecna - Null I am too apathetic to parse his posts and I am a shitter
Voices of Truth - I don't like how the TB slot is literally MIA but seeing Titus under pressure is making me think she is town and she has dropped the entire buddying thing.
Majiffy - Null nothing overly special he made a post about having too many town reads that felt kinda town but that is fakeable.
BigYoshiFan - Fell of the grid a bit cause of the VLA but I still think he is town for reasons previously mentioned.
beeboy - Town
Steven Quartz - What I usually see from Jeanne is she normally tries to post as town on games where she is apathetic and replaces out but as scum she literally just does nothing like she has done here. I am inclined to believe she is scum but I can wait on a replacement.
Creature - Idk what his posts are amounting to and I feel like he is trying to appeal to fear by scum reading anyone that scum reads him.
Marquis - Doing kinda nothing and feels like they are coasting could be scum.

[beeboy]

Rick and Andrea - Town for previously mentioned reasons + frustration on recent pages seems town

Oops

[beeboy]

Ima put that into tiers later cause no one wants to read that but I need to get on the bus first so yeah.


UNVOTE:
VOTE: Creature

[beeboy]

Yeah he basically just called the while player list carting shades of town.

That's basically my current reads tbh

[beeboy]

Beeboy
RA, Spiffeh, Vifam
Yoshi, Sakura, Titusdra, RR, Gork, SAD
Vecna, Kurur0, MOI, Majiffy (null)
Quartz, Creature, Marquis

[beeboy]

Sakura Hana - She is a bit too apathetic for me...

What

You feel less invested this game.
Like I am not talking about your post count but it's a feeling I have been having.

[beeboy]

beeboy, did you ever play with scum!me?

Do I have to in order to scum read you?

[beeboy]

Well yeah im not putting effort, but that's not what apathetic means.

Oh that's what I meant.

[beeboy]

Gorkington - He feels more engaged then what I have seen from him before. Although that is kinda falling off a bit.

what does this mean.

Rem and Ram - Starting to change my mind on this slot a few of there posts seem kinda odd for scum to make I'd elaborate but I have 10 minutes to make this post before I get stuck mobile posting.

please do.

Voices of Truth - I don't like how the TB slot is literally MIA but seeing Titus under pressure is making me think she is town and she has dropped the entire buddying thing.

more words on this.

Will be interested to see if people also go off on this in the next few pages as they did with me

im a national treasure, so probably not.

- my experience with you is cheetory mafia and Plotinus mafia, even tho I wasn't that invested in the latter I have a distinct memory of you just being a lot less engaged in both of those games so I think your play here is more likely to come from town. Like in Plotinus mafia your read on me you told me was based on like the first 10 pages of you reading cyberPunk mafia (or at least I think you told me that on site chat) I just feel like you are a lot more engaged and care more about this game which makes me think you are town and when I said you where falling off I just never noticed your VLA post oops?

- ugh on my phone 2 hard

- Ok so my read on Titus is the following. Early on in the game Titus' posts felt a lot like buddying which is basically exactly what I expect out of scum Titus. So I basically started to pressure her because Titus is a lot easier to read under pressure as both alignments. Titus' intersections with Sakura was a game solving attempt that reminded me a lot when she was hard buddying Dwlee in Dragon Age mafia and when she was playing good cop / bad cop with me in the same game rather then just her straight attempts at buddying in street fighter mafia which basically was my only issue with Titus and how she 180'd the only thing I had against her. In addition to that her interactions with SAD feel exactly like what I would expect out of town Titus. My only issue with her slot is that ThinkBig has been basically Mia all game which is kinda weird.

[beeboy]

Basically my only issue with Titus amounted to something I'd expect out of her as town.

[beeboy]

i was town in both of those games.
why is a discrepancy in my behavior leaving you with a townread?

Why would towning more then in all our previous games leave me with a scum read?
A discrepancy isn't necessarily scum indicative, that's my main issue with meta is that people assume this.

[beeboy]

im just not sure what the point was of bringing up those two games was?
like.
your point is that im being engaged this game which seems town to you.
but then you use me being demotivated as town as a reference point, which doesnt really fit the point youre trying to make in the first place.

what exactly would you be expecting from my scumgame if youre townreading engagement but would think me being disengaged would match your experience with me as town?

If you where disengaged that wouldn't really effect my read on you because it isn't really hard to fake being disengaged.
I would just scum hunt you from another angle that doesn't really involve meta because I don't really know much about your scum game and meta from games I didn't participate in tend to be really unreliable, I just went into this game not expecting you to be engaged as scum and you are really engaged so there is that.

[beeboy]

I am very angry at this game.
I am very angry at sakura.

I promised myself before game I wouldn't get mad.
Now I am mad at myself.

V/LA till the 9th

~Rick (Firebringer)

Thats a strange post

Y

[beeboy]

what exactly are the aspects of titus vs sad that youre feeling mean towntitus.
idc if you need to wait until youre not at phone to answer this.

My main reason for town reading Titus is primarily the part about how I thought she was initially buddying Sakura but she actually was just pressuring her in a way I have seen her done before as town. (basically my argument against her 180'd)

1195 town.
1266 felt like Titus being stubborn town here.

I don't recall ever having strong reasoning for scum reading people in Street fighter mafia.

[beeboy]

Yume has enough respect for me that they'd engage me somehow. This isn't SU2 Yume either.

I agree Yume would have at least tried to engage the thread once by now.

[beeboy]

I recall her trying to engage the thread without actually reading chunks of it in Dragon Age mafia like when she shipped RB's last will cause she wanted to sheep conf town.

[beeboy]

I am very angry at this game.
I am very angry at sakura.

I promised myself before game I wouldn't get mad.
Now I am mad at myself.

V/LA till the 9th

~Rick (Firebringer)

Thats a strange post

Y

SAD still hasn't explained how I defended him or his read on me.
Am I just like air to you guys because being ignored is incredibly frustrating.

[beeboy]

beeboy, did you ever play with scum!me?

Do I have to in order to scum read you?

Yes.

What self meta do you have to defend the point about scum reading people who attack you?

[beeboy]

I like Creature for town significantly more than Vecna

I also like voting Voices

Why do you like creature for town?
Why voices?
Do you have any other reads?

I want more from Marquis.

[beeboy]

I can detect opportunism better when I'm the wagoned and so far nobody voting me doesn't look opportunistic.

Can you break down your scum reads a bit more?
The only one I understand atm is your voices read.

[beeboy]

I can look up your scum meta if you want but I don't like relying on meta for games I wasn't in.

[beeboy]

I can detect opportunism better when I'm the wagoned and so far nobody voting me doesn't look opportunistic.

Can you break down your scum reads a bit more?
The only one I understand atm is your voices read.

Legit are my posts just invisible?

[beeboy]

Cause I swear they are

[beeboy]

VOTE: Sakura Hana

Y, Sakura is prolly town

[beeboy]

Can someone break down to me why no one cares about Marquis?

[beeboy]

i think we should lynch beeboy

nah

[beeboy]

Why would it be easier to ML you?

There's not even a wagon on you.

Your argument has no legs.

There would be if every player SRing me decided to vote me.

Do you really think creature as scum would be that aware of everyone opinion on you in this game?

[beeboy]

how are you ultra obvious town?

[beeboy]

I mean you never explained your reads to me 25 pages back and your reads aren't very consistent.
Also you are just targeting the people wagoning you.

Posting and having good posts isn't the same thing.
I can't post for shit as scum but I am very capable of just saying random crap for pages on end and it isn't exactly hard to do it either once you just stop caring.

[beeboy]

Will you lynch Rem and Ram if I am modconfirmed town?

I still think they are town.

[beeboy]

SIBLING NAHDIA! :O
MY APATHY IS KINDA LESS NOW :O

[beeboy]

Too bad I also have to clean most of my house today and still can't post.
Nahdia I am worried your slot is scum pls send help in the form of dank memes and town posts.
Or just actually be scum and scum post (honestly best option)

[beeboy]

I kinda want Sakura to expand on her read on me at some point.
That's kinda one of the reasons I apathetic atm.

[beeboy]

Ya I can confirm he claimed that in the neighborhood.

[beeboy]

I kinda want Sakura to expand on her read on me at some point.
That's kinda one of the reasons I apathetic atm.

Btw this is BS, you were apathetic since way before i voted you.

I can't get a new reason to be apathetic?

[beeboy]

The timing of your vote was the literal end of the last game we played together and me feeling like shit about that game do you really think I am lying about that making me more apathetic?

pedit: @sakura

[beeboy]

The timing of your vote was the literal end of the last game we played together and me feeling like shit about that game do you really think I am lying about that making me more apathetic?

pedit: @sakura

Why are you apathetic this game Beeboy?

~Rick

I think it would be best if I don't get into it.
Also I think it would be best if I leave this slot to someone who will actually play this game.

[beeboy]

@mod replace me out

sorry for the inconvenience everyone.