BIOCHEMISTRY - game over, finally, it's only been 5 months

[Creature]

Oh nice, I missed this game again.

Luckily it's just 7 pages.

[Creature]

*8 pages

[Creature]

Btw, BigYoshiFan looks bad at Page 1.

[Creature]

Anyway town points for sakura firebringer yoshi.

Bad

[Creature]

idk what to feel tbh

[Creature]

Ugh, I'm not getting any townreads.

[Creature]

Good thing we got scum D1

VOTE: SAD

[Creature]

Sorry SAD, try to be less obvious next time.

[Creature]

Someone entertain me while we wait the wagon reach majority.

[Creature]

We are not lynching Arthur.

~Rick (Fire), Leader

Can we not whiteknight scum?

[Creature]

Shit, just realised I'm not even in this game.

[Creature]

The mod mispelled Creator.

[Creature]

I was WOTM'd.

[Creature]

Okay, I'll lurk until I get a decent townread.

[Creature]

BigYoshiFan also looks bad.

[Creature]

*lurking*

[Creature]

Because he looks awkward.

[Creature]

SAD wagon is promising.

[Creature]

Always thought BOTD meant Bad of the Day.

[Creature]

Guess I am supposed to have some townreads, though I didn't really track them.

[Creature]

Okay, I'll lurk until I get a decent townread.

Just wondering, on a scale of 1-10, 10 being "I care a lot" how much do you care about this game?
-Rem (Ali)

What would you rate if you definitely want to influence the game and win?

[Creature]

What we were supposed to do?

[Creature]

Okay, let's kill Rem Ram with fire.

[Creature]

SAD isn't an RVS vote, it's the sword of hope unleashing scum right at the start (sadly it only works if town decides to be cooperative), but whatever.

VOTE: Rem Ram

[Creature]

Wait, you're an SK maker?

[Creature]

Because they are a scummy composition.

[Creature]

Feeling tempted to go back to SAD, but Rem and Ram aren't helping themselves.

[Creature]

Feeling tempted to go back to SAD, but Rem and Ram aren't helping themselves.

They literally haven't posted since the wagon on them formed so I don't know how you can say they're not helping themselves?

They literally haven't posted since the wagon on them formed

[Creature]

[Creature]

Should've delayed this post.

[Creature]

Page 18

Is Majiffy like this?

[Creature]

Vifam's town btw.

Atleast I'll lurk less now.

[Creature]

Leaning town on Spiffeh and beeboy.

Rick and Andrea and Rem and Ram and still and wagons.

[Creature]

Not sure on SAD anymore.

[Creature]

Is Sakura being decently active?

[Creature]

Majiffy isn't going with the flow, Majiffy is going with the volcano flow.

[Creature]

VOTE: Mágeáf

[Creature]

Btw, Vecna and MoI seemed towny in the neighborhood (though I won't pull a randomidget).

Marquis not so much.

[Creature]

I'm not sure if I am inspired enough to make a townblock.

[Creature]

Ser Arthur Dayne + Rem and Ram + Rick and Andrea + Steven Quartz scumteam?

[Creature]

Ser Arthur Dayne + Rem and Ram + Rick and Andrea + Steven Quartz scumteam?

Why are you voting Majiffy if you feel this to be true?

Not so sure on R and A in there.

@Fire, Don't you think Yume would say hi to me?

idk where to move my vote.

[Creature]

Creatue is very likely scum and you caught onto a few things Titus so you can have free town points.

-Rick

Yeah, Rem and Ram and Rick and Andrea and caught scum.

[Creature]

Not sure on others.

[Creature]

Ser Arthur Dayne + Rem and Ram + Rick and Andrea + Steven Quartz scumteam?

Why are you voting Majiffy if you feel this to be true?

Not so sure on R and A in there.

@Fire, Don't you think Yume would say hi to me?

idk where to move my vote.

Why not RR since they have a wagon?

VOTE: Reasonably Rational

[Creature]

Btw, it was intentional.

[Creature]

I guess I'm only unconfident at Steven Quartz.

[Creature]

Are we going to spend the rest of the day looking for SAD's/RR's/R&A's scum partner?

[Creature]

Again gonna say Firebringer doesn't play like this as town.

[Creature]

I'm struggling on who to lynch first from {Rem, Rick, SAD}.

[Creature]

VOTE: Rem and Ram

[Creature]

Okay, tomorrow I'll fake a guilty on Rick and Andrea.

[Creature]

Oh all posts today are

~ObvTitus

Uh oh

[Creature]

Ser Arthur Dayne

MagnaofIllusion
Gorkington
Spiffeh

Rem and Ram (Alisae and Human Sequencer)

Sakura Hana

Rick and Andrea (Firebringer and MariaR)

Vifam

kuror0

Vecna
Voices of Truth (Titus and Thinkbig)

Majiffy

BigYoshiFan
beeboy

Steven Quartz

Creature

Marquis

[Creature]

There I reduced it down to seven players.

[Creature]

I'm not voting any of my striked atleast.

[Creature]

Just bolding non-striked so you can all see:

Ser Arthur Dayne

MagnaofIllusion
Gorkington
Spiffeh

Rem and Ram (Alisae and Human Sequencer)

Sakura Hana

Rick and Andrea (Firebringer and MariaR)

Vifam

kuror0

Vecna
Voices of Truth (Titus and Thinkbig)

Majiffy

BigYoshiFan
beeboy

Steven Quartz

Creature

Marquis

[Creature]

The unstriked may attempt to be striked.

[Creature]

Since when is bad play scum?

I'm not saying he's a good player or that his reads are good (lmao ffs he's scumreading me) but reads Creature is town Creature.

How can you believe much less be certain that Creature has reads at all with the Reasonably Rational vote?

Btw, it was intentional.

[Creature]

Reasonably Intentional

[Creature]

Vecna seemed towny in my neighborhood.

beeboy was pretty town in page 18.

Sakura Hana would be posting less if scum.

[Creature]

Who you want to bus?

[Creature]

*wagon

[Creature]

Okay, choose one of Rem and Ram, Rick and Andrea or Ser Arthur Dayne.

We lynch them and Day 1's done.

[Creature]

Each townread is like a box you're carrying.

It's hard to carry 9 boxes.

[Creature]

Want me to be a little less rough to RR, R&A and SAD?

[Creature]

What about Marquis?

[Creature]

I won't oppose the wagons on my townreads so much.

[Creature]

Some of my townreads are guts and I've extended my list to full no paranoia mode.

[Creature]

idk, it seems like he's not trying to look town so much.

[Creature]

I'd not mind to wagon some of my townreads as it could help me solidify my townread on them even more.

[Creature]

Yay Desperado

[Creature]

I wished there were true dayvigs.

[Creature]

How funny would it be if there was a dayvig that could dayvig anyone who attempts to fake a dayvig/desperado?

[Creature]

Reminder to not let Majiffy live to MyLo/LyLo unless mechanically confirmed.

[Creature]

Not Voting: kuror0, Steven Quartz, Vecna

Very likely atleast one scum there.

[Creature]

Unless kuror0 and Steven Quartz are just inactive because they are inactive.

[Creature]

Why bother making all scum members join wagons and possibly be VCAd rather than staying in the Not Voting section and not be caught by VCA?

[Creature]

There are five categories:

{Rem and Ram, Gorkington, Majiffy}
{BigYoshiFan, Voices of Truth, Creature}
{Spiffeh, MagnaofIllusion, Sakura Hana, Rick and Andrea}
{Marquis, Ser Arthur Dayne, beeboy, Vifam}
{kuror0, Steven Quartz, Vecna}

Unlikely for there to be more than two scum in a category.

[Creature]

[Creature]

ThinkBig still not posting?

[Creature]

I know Titus won't join scum wagons on town.

[Creature]

VOTE: SAD

Should be L-2 unless I missed a vote after the last VC.

[Creature]

Btw, Alisae, is Human Sequencer scumreading me too?

[Creature]

Okay, you scumread me, then you're scum.

[Creature]

VOTE: Rem and Ram

[Creature]

Every day I don't see scum flipping makes me more irritated.

[Creature]

I'm not sure if someone made a case on me rathen than just saying I look scummy.

[Creature]

First off, can you explain why you are so sure you have 3 scum so fast in this game already?

If I just say "oh these are my top 3 scumreads, but they aren't so strong", it will give no pressure on scum at all.

[Creature]

First off, can you explain why you are so sure you have 3 scum so fast in this game already?

If I just say "oh these are my top 3 scumreads, but they aren't so strong", it will give no pressure on scum at all.

So you wanted people to pay attention to them more or you wanted people to follow you.

Any reasons on any of them independently, besides read on me since you semi-explained it.

~Rick, (Firebringer)

I wanted scum to react more to these reads.

[Creature]

Is there a dayvig inventor?

[Creature]

What's HS problem with me?

[Creature]

I may not be the top poster but I am one of the top posters.

[Creature]

Hey, let's be real, if I were scum, why would I try scumhunting rather than doing my usual PoE which is easier? I still sometimes scumhunt like this.

[Creature]

VOTE: Voices of Foot

[Creature]

Why would town want to lynch town? This is a game where we're supposed to lynch scum, not random lynch.

[Creature]

idk, I'm not going to stay in the SAD wagon the entire day, we have time.

[Creature]

Don't remember Rem and Ram ever misreading me as town, so there's one scum between us.

[Creature]

The HS part.

[Creature]

We lynch Rem and Ram, we trade 0 town for 1 scum. We lynch me, we trade 1-2 town for 1 scum.

[Creature]

> Can only be scum with SAD
> Gets wagoned before him being lynched

[Creature]

Did ThinkBig post anything relevant?

[Creature]

You're saying I am scum for derailing SAD wagon.

[Creature]

It's possible SAD and VoT are scum together and Titus is trying to tie me with SAD.

[Creature]

ThinkBig: Oh no we got scum
Titus: Don't worry I'll do all the posting for you

[Creature]

I wasn't townreading you hard anyway.

[Creature]

Btw, there should have a giant red text:

180ing isn't a scumtell

[Creature]

"Everybody voting me is scum, all scum are on me"

[Creature]

Because they know my playstyle and they don't use textbook scumplay (which doesn't even exist) to sort players.

[Creature]

"Oh no, X could suddenly be playing ultra towny as scum"

[Creature]

I didn't answer some of your questions?

Either I missed them or I am not interested in answering them.

[Creature]

Does someone have a better knowledge on Firebringer?

[Creature]

Meta may suck, but personal experience and general experience don't.

[Creature]

I could get behind a lurker lynch.

[Creature]

He's a radioactive chemical flow.

[Creature]

Ser Arthur Dayne - I still think his posting is town (his wagon analysis was good and lined up with his "I like to be wagoned" thing), I still don't like how he hasn't pressured me or addressed his read on me like ever. I also don't like how earlier in the game he posted something about wanting to interact with the neighborhood.
MagnaofIllusion - I usually see MOI post more I want to try and sort this slot
Gorkington - He feels more engaged then what I have seen from him before. Although that is kinda falling off a bit.
Spiffeh - I still liked how he was actively pressuring me a lot in the early game (even the pregame which felt really town) so town.
Rem and Ram - Starting to change my mind on this slot a few of there posts seem kinda odd for scum to make I'd elaborate but I have 10 minutes to make this post before I get stuck mobile posting.
Sakura Hana - She is a bit too apathetic for me to read her his game but once I take that into consideration and see how she is trying to solve the game when she could probably coast on her apathy thing a bit harder and have me defend her it (cause I do have OOG reasons to know she is apathetic and she knows that) I'll just roll with town for the time being.
Rick and Andrea (Firebringer and MariaR)
Vifam - Still think the way he is pressuring people is town.
kuror0 - He has been trying to interact in our neighborhood ever so slightly but idk
Vecna - Null I am too apathetic to parse his posts and I am a shitter
Voices of Truth - I don't like how the TB slot is literally MIA but seeing Titus under pressure is making me think she is town and she has dropped the entire buddying thing.
Majiffy - Null nothing overly special he made a post about having too many town reads that felt kinda town but that is fakeable.
BigYoshiFan - Fell of the grid a bit cause of the VLA but I still think he is town for reasons previously mentioned.
beeboy - Town
Steven Quartz - What I usually see from Jeanne is she normally tries to post as town on games where she is apathetic and replaces out but as scum she literally just does nothing like she has done here. I am inclined to believe she is scum but I can wait on a replacement.
Creature - Idk what his posts are amounting to and I feel like he is trying to appeal to fear by scum reading anyone that scum reads him.
Marquis - Doing kinda nothing and feels like they are coasting could be scum.

Idk what beeboy's posts are amounting to.

[Creature]

beeboy, did you ever play with scum!me?

[Creature]

beeboy, did you ever play with scum!me?

Do I have to in order to scum read you?

Yes.

[Creature]

I can detect opportunism better when I'm the wagoned and so far nobody voting me doesn't look opportunistic.

[Creature]

Guess it's better to see what arguments others tell about my meta.

[Creature]

Hey, Ali. Are you up for a pact of death?

[Creature]

It's like gladiating, except that if town ends getting lynched, the other must be lynched/killed no matter what (no "scum!X would never do that", any derail is by scum).

[Creature]

If you're scum:
1. Accept. You won't make it to endgame but hey, maybe you get to bring down a town together.
2. Reject. You'll lose your chance to mislynch and possibly look awkward.

If you're town:
1. Accept. Yeah, two town lynches will happen, but better than being incriminated in a possible MyLo/LyLo.
2. Reject. We can work it out.

[Creature]

You're that confident in your read on us huh?

Seeing how HS is scumreading me and I don't see her misreading me so easily...

[Creature]

The only time HS scumread me when I was town, she was scum.

[Creature]

If the wagon weren't always stuck on me (or SAD), I could solve this game better.

[Creature]

If I am town, scum will go to a night without feeling pressured at all. If we push more wagons, scum will have to bleed to survive the day.

[Creature]

Every post in which Creature posted no content at all to inflate his postcount because he knows lurking is his scumtell:

175
176
179
186
188
190
192
210
240
415
578
645
677
680
699
773
817
818
934
I'm getting bored of this but you get the point.
I was also incredibly generous with this-- Do the iso dive yourself and realize how weak and noncommittal all of his stances are.
-HS

You know you're just picking useless posts out of gamesolving posts.

[Creature]

Just bolding non-striked so you can all see:

Ser Arthur Dayne

MagnaofIllusion
Gorkington
Spiffeh

Rem and Ram (Alisae and Human Sequencer)

Sakura Hana

Rick and Andrea (Firebringer and MariaR)

Vifam

kuror0

Vecna
Voices of Truth (Titus and Thinkbig)

Majiffy

BigYoshiFan
beeboy

Steven Quartz

Creature

Marquis

[Creature]

If someone's gonna say I am not doing anything, I'll say that it's bullshit.

[Creature]

Giving you a chance, follow this:

VOTE: BYF

[Creature]

"Oh no, referred town as third person, therefore he must be scum" "Oh no, he used "if town" for himself, therefore scum"

[Creature]

Rem and Ram scum

VoT still looks bad

You not so much anymore

Vecna unsure

Listing the most important, I'm sorta lazy to list all my reads.

[Creature]

Who should we wagon?

[Creature]

What flavor?

[Creature]

(Can't guarantee two-three sentences)

HS can actually read quite well. The fact she's obviously lying about my meta makes me think she's scum.

VoT looks scum because ThinkBig lurking is a scumtell (some would say he's usually a lurker, but I see him being more active as town). Titus idk.

Ser Arthur Dayne felt "different" and fitted well as my whiteknighter.

Vecna looks town, but not enough to be strong town.

[Creature]

Sorry, two-three senteces means I must go into their ISO, pick a post and point a flaw, which isn't a valid scumtell.

[Creature]

One of us must be lying, so one of us must be scum.

[Creature]

Majiffy's also a good lynch after R&R.

[Creature]

Hey, Ali. Are you up for a pact of death?

It's like gladiating, except that if town ends getting lynched, the other must be lynched/killed no matter what (no "scum!X would never do that", any derail is by scum).

If you're scum:
1. Accept. You won't make it to endgame but hey, maybe you get to bring down a town together.
2. Reject. You'll lose your chance to mislynch and possibly look awkward.

If you're town:
1. Accept. Yeah, two town lynches will happen, but better than being incriminated in a possible MyLo/LyLo.
2. Reject. We can work it out.

Town or scum!Alisae: "Sure, one of us must be scum, let's find out now"
Town!Alisae: "No, maybe we should consider rereading you"
Scum!Alisae: "Oh no, Creature is scum gambiting"

[Creature]

Okay, I'm not that lazy anymore, though, I'd prefer if you could say me a name and I give them a read.

[Creature]

Are you announcing the guilty now?

[Creature]

VOTE: BYF

Meanwhile

Feel like mod missed the vote before

[Creature]

radar
He's flying under the

[Creature]

You people are so boring

[Creature]

1619

It doesn't work on mafia games duh

[Creature]

I'm just gonna go hope I sheep someone who's gonna go be right.

[Creature]

ThinkBig is not doing anything here.

[Creature]

ThinkBig is doing something somewhere else.

[Creature]

What that could mean?

[Creature]

Oh good, MoI had to mislynch me two more times until he started using reference reads on me.

[Creature]

I'm sorta tired of listing townreads, I often change my mind about them specially if they tend to "disappear".

[Creature]

Hi Titus, is ThinkBig posting?

Hi Titus, if not, is ThinkBig that advicer in the hydra PT that won't post anything in the game thread?

Hi Titus, if not, why do you insist in keeping the hydra?

[Creature]

MoI has been telling me to vote Vecna and so far I didn't, so that's not really true.

[Creature]

Also, I don't want D1 to stagnate in a single wagon.

[Creature]

Okay fine, hopefully he isn't scum letting you do all the posting.

[Creature]

Otherwise I am not going to be guided by someone else to you but rather guide everyone to you.

[Creature]

I could start caring if you want.

[Creature]

I don't think he's actually concerned with who is lynched and is changing his reads/votes to whatever seems most popular.

Well, maybe you should tell your scumpartner to try again.

[Creature]

I'm testing my reads.

Also, I've explained VoT.

[Creature]

lol Rem and Ram was comparing my town meta and thought it was scum meta or something else?

[Creature]

Btw, if R&R somehow leads my mislynch, don't let them get away, they're just scum posing as bold town. If they were town, they would've showed a shiver of doubt.

[Creature]

Creature sr's my top tr? Okay he can die even more then I wanted him dead before
~Andrea

If your top townread is Rem and Ram, sorry, you had a bad game.

[Creature]

Btw, I want the town from my wagon to actually town up, I doubt all scum would be on me, but all votes on me look bad so far (maybe VoT is an exception because it's Titus).

[Creature]

From my wagon, I have like:
{VoT}
{BYF, R&A}
{beeboy, Majiffy}
{R&R}

Am I missing someone?

Also, VoT still needs to work more to be a hard townread.

[Creature]

Spoiler:

I'm scummy here:

BigYoshiFan also looks bad.

Then towny here:

Just bolding non-striked so you can all see:

Ser Arthur Dayne

MagnaofIllusion
Gorkington
Spiffeh

Rem and Ram (Alisae and Human Sequencer)

Sakura Hana

Rick and Andrea (Firebringer and MariaR)

Vifam

kuror0

Vecna
Voices of Truth (Titus and Thinkbig)

Majiffy

BigYoshiFan
beeboy

Steven Quartz

Creature

Marquis

Then... this.

VOTE: BYF

Meanwhile

Feel like mod missed the vote before

radar
He's flying under the

This is his read on me.

Maybe BYF thinks this is valid, but it's just NAI shit, and scum likes to incriminate town with NAI shit.

[Creature]

Creature, I'm getting Chosen Mafia flashbacks.

Yeah, I'm someone who scum wants to lynch ASAP.

[Creature]

I town up when I sort players.

If the wagon is the whole game on me, it's harder to sort players.

[Creature]

You notice how other wagons are being refused?

[Creature]

zzzzz

vote: creature

If this isn't questioned, the whole wagon on me loses credibility as the only case is "I changed some of my reads"

[Creature]

Yeah, 6-7 votes is slow going.

[Creature]

theres also that youre not actually questioning me anything.

I don't really need to post "WTF is this?" for you to explain.

[Creature]

Someone could like give a 1-shot desperado for Rem and Ram. I wonder if they would use it or just admit they're scum.

[Creature]

We have 14 days, 7 days has passed and the wagon on me still hasn't died down.

[Creature]

idk how much I have to say about my wagoners.

[Creature]

HS' read on me is unnatural. Even if I were scum, she would probably show a shiver of doubt if I were posting too much, but no, it's pure posing.

[Creature]

esp considering I don't townread either one

What?

[Creature]

Btw, I'm not sure why HS says I'm giving Chosen Mafia flashbacks and that means I'm scum, I was town in Chosen Mafia. Check here.

[Creature]

Btw, what players mean when they say like hopping on the flavor?

[Creature]

Also, this is a highlight for Ankamius who just disappeared.

[Creature]

idk, I don't have much townreads and I have too many scumreads.

[Creature]

I'm getting the feeling players will still think R&R were just terribly wrong town (but I don't think they suck that much) and let them slip away.

[Creature]

idk, I went super no paranoia mode in my strike list, I'm re-looking for my townreads, but now I don't have many of them.

[Creature]

And I also have some townreads that I don't want to say simply because for some reason I don't think it's enough.

[Creature]

Wagons can explode pretty quickly as scum are obligated to vote their partner if they don't show up a townread on them. However, stagnating is indicative that if there are scum on my wagon they don't really need to switch.

[Creature]

Spoiler:

I'm scummy here:

BigYoshiFan also looks bad.

Then towny here:

Just bolding non-striked so you can all see:

Ser Arthur Dayne

MagnaofIllusion
Gorkington
Spiffeh

Rem and Ram (Alisae and Human Sequencer)

Sakura Hana

Rick and Andrea (Firebringer and MariaR)

Vifam

kuror0

Vecna
Voices of Truth (Titus and Thinkbig)

Majiffy

BigYoshiFan
beeboy

Steven Quartz

Creature

Marquis

Then... this.

VOTE: BYF

Meanwhile

Feel like mod missed the vote before

radar
He's flying under the

This is his read on me.

Maybe BYF thinks this is valid, but it's just NAI shit, and scum likes to incriminate town with NAI shit.

Are you trying to accuse me of something? Hmmmmmm?
Also, RR told someone to ISO you and give an opinion of your read on me.
I thought I'd make it easier on them.

Is there anything to your read on me that I missed?

reminder to explain your read development here please and thank you.

I was having Large 197 vibes from him and thought it would be good to pressure him.

[Creature]

Do you think my wagon is all town?

If yes, why don't you think atleast one scum would be jumping in?
If not, why don't you think scum would let it die?

[Creature]

What's your opinion on Majiffy?

[Creature]

Then do you think Sakura is scum or not?

[Creature]

I'd disagree on Sakura because her stances look strong and she has posted quite a bit.

[Creature]

I agree on Majiffy and Steven/Ankamius, I'm unsure on VoT.

[Creature]

Okay, Rem and Ram + Majiffy

Let's look for their partners.

[Creature]

Feeling like at most 2 scum would have strong support on my wagon, so VoT is likely town.

[Creature]

Gork is also likely town.

[Creature]

Okay, Rem and Ram + Majiffy

Let's look for their partners.

Your argument is that after bussing my partner, I decided to piggyback my partner's vote directly and we both spent the entire time railroading a townie in the face of no momentum while other wagons cropped up themselves without our assistance?


Good luck with that.

idk, I'm used to see bussing everywhere in any form.

[Creature]

A cop who was at L-2 claims, everyone explicitly states that they don't counterclaim. However, two players decided to vote and lynch the uncounterclaimed cop.

Which is the better argument?
1. "They're scum who decided to sacrifice themselves, no town would ever do it"
2. "Scum would never out two of them together, so they're likely town"

[Creature]

I feel like the arguments you use are straightly false or at best exaggerated.

[Creature]

If you're gonna scumcase me, show proofs because it feels like you're blatantly lying.

And no, don't wagon analysis.

[Creature]

Oh you mean like the wagon speed one, which I explicitly proved true?

You missed that at some point my wagon quickly rose from 1-2 to 5-6.

[Creature]

It's an anti-town move and both of those players should be policy lynched.

Btw, this is an agreement R&R and Majiffy deserves to be lynched anyway.

[Creature]

I trust town they won't hesitate to lynch R&R before D3 and that they won't let Majiffy ever reach to endgame unless he's 100% sorted.