Elemental Trinity: Endgame

[Narna]

I replaced in to play hangman. I'm not a fan of this Jae guy.

[Narna]

Spoiler: hungman

There are two s's

[Narna]

oh hey i just realized SUPER PRO SCUMHUNTER NARNA is here

ur predecessor had several heads in its hydra and i'm not sure if the hydra had more heads or the hydra made more posts

also the most elaborate post it made was scummy

discuss

pedit:

n

You lying about your hangman template is scummy.

disscuss

[Narna]

Yeah, Narna's likely scum.

I'm pretty sure RC towncleared me in a votecount. I'm too lazy to shoop it into one right now. I'm on page 72 and I fear the best of the shitfest is behind me.

[Narna]

Oh lordy, I think you all missed this.

Spoiler:

Elemental

Trinity

Mafia:

Votecount 1.11:

Moth (4): No Bullying Allowed, nancy, Frozen Angel, Postie
The Glitter Patrol (2): Moth, Transcend
PeregrineV (1): RachMarie
Frozen Angel (1): Lil Uzi Vert
RachMarie (0):
nancy (0):
Transcend (0):
Voices of Truth (0):
No Bullying Allowed (0):
Yume (0):
Postie (0):
Lil Uzi Vert (0):
McMenno (0):
TiphaineDeath (0):
Creature (0):
KFC (0):
MariaR (0):
Vecna (0):
Davesaz (0):


Not Voting: Voices of Truth, Yume, McMenno, TiphaineDeath, PeregrineV, Creature, KFC, MariaR, Vecna, Davesaz, The Glitter Patrol

With 19 alive it's 10 to lynch.
The day will end in (expired on 2017-03-01 23:00:00).


KFC has been revealed as

Town

Vecna has been revealed as

Scum

.

[Narna]

I'm pretty far behind, but I have VOTE: Davesaz as my strongest sr at the moment. I think Creature and Rach are prob town. This goes without saying probably, but the Vecna slot, Baeblade, and FA slot are all obvtown. Transcend would be a townlean.

[Narna]

I also kinda liked Uzi. Tran and Uzi looked wavy when the crazies were trying to associate them.

[Narna]

VC, it's taking too long and I wanna round out the player list.

Slightest of townleans: Tip, PlsNoBully
Null: Yume, PV, McMenno, and I'm drawing a blank on my Maria read from last night
Scumlean: Postie, Nancy, Moth

I remember liking Nancy's posting around the time I replaced in, but organically reading in order around the 70s I was holding a sr on her.

[Narna]

This seems like one of those games where doing the opposite of what Math wants will yield the best results.

[Narna]

He's engaged a lot of players and provided believable reads lists. It's not all shitposts and daisies. The thread was mainly shit up by VoT, Glitter, and FA.

[Narna]

I'm pretty sure Glitter's initial push on Transcend and Uzi was god awful, and going back to it because the FA push was even worse is mind bending.

[Narna]

Davesza doesn't seem to be happening any time soon. Postie's crumb could easily be faked by scum. I don't see why it's so worthy of towncred. Especially considering that a Desperado doesn't justify Postie's claim existing. Some of their votes and pushes, especially early on felt like things I'd try to push on as scum.

VOTE: Postie

[Narna]

Okay, what about the baseless "vig half the player list" thing he did with VoT? What about literally anything done since the request to stop threadcrapping came in a few pages back (and since then he's done nothing but thread crap, I remind you)?

In what world does town hear "This is draining players' will to play and burying discussion and three slots have advanced that it needs to stop, please stop" and decide "I know what'd be a good idea, let's spam the thread with content-free fluffposts!"?

ObvTown has already done that to a more drastic extreme resulting in replace outs. I don't think it's too AI at the moment. I am also a fan of funposting.

[Narna]

Postie isn't a good D1 lynch. If my scumreads are correct (and I have no reason to believe that they are not currently) then Transcend is the only good D1 lynch.

p-edit: Who is obvtown that has done such a thing to such a drastic degree in recent posts?

I'm still not fully caught up, so I don't have all of the recent info. I think Glitter participated in hangman (if not, a fair amount of people still did). Your slot and Glitter have a lot more volatile posts which drowned out the whole game. It seems like a bold move to continue trolling despite being asked to stop. It's not a reason to townread him sure, but I don't see the scum motivation. You think he was trying to force replace outs and draw heat? Is there something I've missed aside from shitposting?

[Narna]

Titus told you to reevaluate and you didn't. It's quite simple really. The reasoning behind the FA case was flimsy from the getgo. I only really remember you drawing pre-flip associations on people who disagreed with your FA case. You then stuck with the read for whatever reason after accepting that FA was town.

[Narna]

*you could be jae too. I mean your slot.

[Narna]

Believable << scumslip? Does Narna know Transcend is scum? I only suspect it but why does it matter if a list is believable for them to be Town. It is supposed to be assessing the belief of the person who made the post. Not whether they agree with you or not.

Believable, genuine, same difference. Calling that a slip is such a stretch. Most of the reasoning I'm seeing from you

this game

is questionable. I'd rather lynch a scumread today.

[Narna]

[quote="In post 3768You can't say Titus/Think Big were shitting up the thread AND also were posting valid points.[/quote]
I've literally been saying that about Transcend too dude.

Careful Narna may call agreement with truth shitposting. Lol

[Narna]

Postie isn't a good D1 lynch. If my scumreads are correct (and I have no reason to believe that they are not currently) then Transcend is the only good D1 lynch.

p-edit: Who is obvtown that has done such a thing to such a drastic degree in recent posts?

I'm still not fully caught up, so I don't have all of the recent info. I think Glitter participated in hangman (if not, a fair amount of people still did). Your slot and Glitter have a lot more volatile posts which drowned out the whole game. It seems like a bold move to continue trolling despite being asked to stop. It's not a reason to townread him sure, but I don't see the scum motivation. You think he was trying to force replace outs and draw heat? Is there something I've missed aside from shitposting?

Back before VoT wasted their Desp shot on Vecna (now Infinity), Transcend pushed for them to shoot TGP. VoT refused. Transcend began to advance fully half of the player list as Desp shot targets. When asked to make a case (so the shot wasn't wasted), he refused. He said his case was "because I FoS them." At this point, VoT said they will not discuss shot targets with his slot, during which he continued to advance slots as targets without reasoning (not even thin reasoning like "Look at the ISO, I don't know how you can't see it"). Eventually he ran out of targets that weren't his townreads and began calling VoT's Desp shot a bluff loudly and vocally. This is anti-town play at the best of times (aside from the bluff-calling, which I can see a lot of town-motivation for). It's also pro-scum, because scum can hide in the resulting bullshit.

Also: I think town has /less/ reason to make slots want to replace out than scum does. Scum draws heat but they sap willpower and town gets tired and starts to lose interest in game-advancing play during the dayphase when they're strongest.
Town gains...? Nothing. Town loses allies, gets heat, loses the ability to make game-advancing plays. The only thing they get is a risk of being mislynched. If slots the player townreads (i.e., me, nancy) ask them to stop and they do not, they risk alienating their town reads for no good gain.

Did you read the game or only iso him? I see how that looks horrible in iso, but having all of the context left me thinking the suggestions were fine when he brought them up (aside from Glitter). He then explains why the reads change later. He gave some stuff to work with, which I mostly agreed with.

Postie's timing to claim is suspicious dimply because it shouldn't be able to kill him. Scum got caught in a lie and I find he's been opportunistic with some of his votes and is throwing mostly shade.

[Narna]

VOTE: Bully he's trying too hard to soft traitor. I'm fine with testing the davesaz result, but lol that end of day.

[Narna]

I'm fine with testing the davesaz result, but lol that end of day.

What?

~Jae

Oh wow, I super misread nancy's 4063. What did I do lmao. Scratch that.

[Narna]

In respect of our hangman doc hanging.

_|_|_|_|_| _|

[Narna]

VOTE: Glitter

[Narna]

Glitter was trying to defend anti town trolling (lolhammer, pushing conftown) last phase when d1 they refused to do anything but push the guy trolling. Despite Tran actually generating pro town content in between the trolling.

Why does scum Nancy try to go against a guilty? It seems like a tilted town move to me.

[Narna]

#4094 There's at least a couple posts where they downplay Bully's anti-town behavior. Reread that short ass phase. I don't see how you can miss it.

[Narna]

What am I encouraging exactly?

[Narna]

Narna, both myself and Math hit our obvtown levels. That means your chance to mislynch us has passed. Your only choice if you want us gone now is to nightkill us. You can take the conversation out of context all you like but it won't result in a mislynch on us, you'll just be scumclaiming.

~Jae

pedit - that's right, anti-town isn't necessarily scummy. That hammer would have happened that way regardless of alignment. There were other reasons for NBA to be scum, but that wasn't one of them, and I believe that nancy damn well knows that.

An aside, I'm wanting to take time to talk to Math this day phase since I'm finally back from Melbourne and can actually do more shit now. Wanna do some VCA and stuff, and talk reads with them.

fun, you two are lots of fun.

[Narna]

I'm fine with VOTE: nancy tbh, I am just worried that ya'll are going to let mari slide like you have been and she is just going to get forgotten about when she is honestly pretty conf-scum to me.

Don't worry we'll lynch maria afterwards.

@narna: Reads on postie, maria, and nancy?

town, scum, town

[Narna]

@Nancy

Those posts are ok. Maria is a sr for me mostly because of poe. McMenno and PV do what they've been doing as either alignment, so they're still pretty null for me. It's not a good policy, but PV becomes easy to read once the playerlist shrinks. McMenno's outburst last phase pings me as town!mcmeme, but I'm not married to the read. Dave is a solid scumread, Moth was scum, and I think one of the two 'obvtown' slots might be scum at this point. In any event, I don't want them to touch lylo.

[Narna]

VOTE: Davesaz

[Narna]

Oh shit Rach is in this game. Rach is suspicious too.

[Narna]

I've never seen scum Rach, but she's not a lurker type.

[Narna]

I've only seen the high impact townposting Rach Transcend was talking about, but duly noted Infinity.

pedit: my pagetop, curses!

[Narna]

Narna I want to know where you're getting the scumreads on dave and moth

Dave's Transcend vote is terrible. I don't see town genuinely agreeing with TGP's case without heavy doses of confbias. Combine that with their lurking, and it looks like he was just buddying the 'obvtown' to coast. The timing of it also ties in with Maria!scum, butt fuck pre-flip associates. I just know we have some who lovem' here. I don't like Moth's read progression on Transcend. I think they are the only one that went from townreading him to scumreading him once it got popular to call out his shitposting.

[Narna]

delicious

[Narna]

That's 100% going in my sig btw when this game is complete ^_^

?????

[Narna]

beer and pizza at the pagetop

[Narna]

oh shit

[Narna]

I'm not seeing the Postie/TD thing either. Can you explain Dave/TD for me?

LOL

fail

burp*

[Narna]

Ayy someone gets me.

pedite: i c ;_;

[Narna]

Narna btw, I don't see how just the transcend vote is enough of a case for a strong scumread on dave, even though it was bad.

I'm over cases this game.

[Narna]

Math, I do want you to talk about which of class's reads you don't like a why so we can go through it.

Mainly the Dave one.
At first she said she had an airtight case for Dave being responsible for something and it wasn't.
Then tried pushing a TD Dave connection which I don't follow.

It seems like a lot of Cass's discussions are on a lurker (due to RL) rather than developed players. I want to hear Cass talk about Narna. The push on Dave single focused is weird.

It is like she is trying to force Dave scum.

~~Math

Should quote all of Dave's posts, add a little arbitrary narration, and pretend it's a case? What you two did to Transcend was forced as fuck. I succinctly explained my read and am hoping it sticks.

[Narna]

Is there legitimate concern that your result on Postie is off Nancy? You're the main reason I have Postie as town.

VOTE: Nancy

Maria is right, it feels like there is no point in trying to share any non prevailing opinions this game as you'll just be ignored or called out based on some thirsty ass pre-flip associations.

[Narna]

I got a message from Infinity last night and boy am I

stone

ed. I don't trust the dark alignments. Can someone tell me who is in that hood?

[Narna]

Poor Nancy. She didn't deserve to be survivorized. Even if that gambit was horrible.

[Narna]

I just throw out buzzwords. I would never think that claiming lynchproof when loved is a gambit.

[Narna]

nope

[Narna]

Is Dave dark? I still wanna lynch this, but it's important.

[Narna]

I'm currently thinking we should lynch Davesaz, TD, or Pimhel. If any of these are dark, they get my vote. I'm also not a huge fan of nka. I found Math quite suspicious, but he got got. He was buddied quite hard with Cass all game. Scum might not have liked that, which bodes well for Cass being town.

[Narna]

I'm afraid of the dark.

[Narna]

I'm currently thinking we should lynch Davesaz, TD, or Pimhel. If any of these are dark, they get my vote. I'm also not a huge fan of nka. I found Math quite suspicious, but he got got. He was buddied quite hard with Cass all game. Scum might not have liked that, which bodes well for Cass being town.

Infinity showed in one of his lists that Dave and TD are in the dark PT. But if I remember correctly, Glitter mentioned that Darkness players had a choice to enter. So perhaps not all of them are in the PT. Which is reason for me to ask for a massclaim.

Good shit Pimhel, thanks.

VOTE: Davesaz I don't want this slot anywhere near lylo.

[Narna]

But you appear to have information I lack and it may make all the difference.

Right back at ya. I'd rather not claim if you're down to lynch the guy anywaqy.

[Narna]

But you appear to have information I lack and it may make all the difference.

Right back at ya. I'd rather not claim if you're down to lynch the guy anywaqy.

I don't need a claim. Vaguepost if you need to (hell, I sure vaguepost enough when I don't want to spill too soon), just paint me a picture of why Dark in particular is Bad.

I feel like I've hinted at it pretty damn hard. rip IOnfinity.

[Narna]

Doesn't Postie have an inno on them? They'd be a hardd scumread otherwise.

[Narna]

Why did you vote mcmeme before Dave this phase?

[Narna]

I appreciate the support though my not valentine.

[Narna]

No, I am sad. That game was broken.

[Narna]

I want Narna (or PimHel, I'm past being picky here) to explain the Dark thing, because that's good information that could make the difference over the next two days. Again, vagueposting is fine.

The info will still be around tomorrow, trust. It might not even be relevant given the flip.

Pimhel looks better given his claim along with the dark suspicion. My strongest scumpsects are Dave and TD. Mcmenno, PV, and Rach can go either way. I have slight reason to trust Yume through some outguessing the mod. The other three players are most likely town.

[Narna]

Mcmenno's interaction with Nancy seems pretty scummy in hindsight. He can go in the scum pile.

[Narna]

ebwop: interaction on d2 in #4064 and the few posts after it.

[Narna]

It's something.

[Narna]

Not a particularly impressive something though, tbh.

It's flimsy, but how does one even sort that iso? I don't think I've been able to get Yume to say anything in my direction over the course of three games or so.

[Narna]

I want Narna (or PimHel, I'm past being picky here) to explain the Dark thing, because that's good information that could make the difference over the next two days. Again, vagueposting is fine.

The info will still be around tomorrow, trust. It might not even be relevant given the flip.

Pimhel looks better given his claim along with the dark suspicion. My strongest scumpsects are Dave and TD. Mcmenno, PV, and Rach can go either way. I have slight reason to trust Yume through some outguessing the mod. The other three players are most likely town.

I've slept on this.

Why scum!TD? Answering that would probably also answer a lot of the other questions I have all by itself.

His pushes on Postie and Maria read as scum v town. He's also a dark soul. What questions aside from the role fish?

[Narna]

I was actually thinking NBA might have been the traitor here. It's wine, but I think it tastes sweet. What scum points at their traitor who just crumbed/claimed something fishy? I have seen a traitor be able to hide it's flip before.

[Narna]

It's there, vaguely. I can drop it tomorrow. It's better this way. It feels like all of the actual discussion this game happened in hoods, boo not cool. From what I can see, it's SvT on both accounts.

[Narna]

Wew lad

[Narna]

This flipped town right? Why does it feel like I'm the only one giving any credence to this?

Postie is conftown.

why

I've been informed of a result that indicates this.

[Narna]

Cass why do I need to 'get loud'? The dude I want lynched is getting lynched, and I already changed your mind on my next largest scumspect. I get that we should wait for Momo to be able to catch up and post, but this phase is as good as done for now.

[Narna]

give reads based on only today if you have to davy my boy.

[Narna]

Spoiler: Standing by

[Narna]

I'm unstoppable!

[Narna]

Scum in TD or Cass for sure at this point. I still think it's TD.

[Narna]

I've been redactedlapsing for a week, sorry. Ima reread a bit and try tonight.

[Narna]

I feel like a zombie.

[Narna]

Is momo in your neighborhood td/cass?

[Narna]

Cass?????

??????????????????????????????????????????

[Narna]

??????????????????????????

[Narna]

I don't get mcmenno's reasoning on his momo vote

[Narna]

Your throught preocess on scum behavior this phaase is reminiscent of what you've been doing aalllll game. It's just rambling acossiations hat aren't there

[Narna]

I'm Chen Sendrout, a modified elemental cop. I can determine what element did the nk once per game. I used this ability n3, and found that a dark player killed infinity. The messenger neighbor asked me to soft any info I had d4, so that's mainly why I used it n3. As for my passive, I know that

Yume

Eddie is Princess Julia. I don't know her alignment, but my results are sent to them if I die. My predecessor could have chosen a regular pt cop or modified coroner.

[Narna]

Rach where you at here? Obvtown for me, and don't mention ??????

[Narna]

lmao town has two trackers

[Narna]

One caught scum, the other led town off of a cliff.

[Narna]

Momo, was it you or your predecessor who shot Math? And if you, why?

[Narna]

I'm starting to think Nancy just fabricated the 'inno' on Postie. I'm more confident that TD is scum, but given the gamestate, Momo looks pretty shit.

[Narna]

Well shit, I was so sure on TD.

[Narna]

ayyy, I'll be poting in a minute. I just need to get more thoroughly smashed first (temp prodge).

[Narna]

It was a cool minute. How goes?

[Narna]

holy shit it's 6:00. Where did my day go?

[Narna]

Eddie, do you know if people switched elements and when?

[Narna]

Well shit, I was so sure on TD.

you a fucking doc or what

What?

[Narna]

Why did we not claim this stuff in lylo? I'm half torn between getting bored of mafia, or if I'm just tired of this shittastic town.

[Narna]

UHH yeah, it does...

[Narna]

There are roles that trace elements. Are you for real right now dude?

[Narna]

'big post' 'avout'

pedit: cass is the only one you know about using it, or are you informed?

[Narna]

'until prompted'

CUTE

[Narna]

Scum in TD and Eddie is p cool. The scumteam is Eddie, PV, Rach, and McMenno.

Scum

Eddie - I don't agree with swiftly discrediting of the 'not guilty'. It makes sense to have Eddie make the kill considering he seems to have no night action.
PV - Hard lurk, could go either way, but the dark element puts him ahead of McMenno.
Rach - She's been playing dummy safe with a lame role that can revive. She has next to no voting record, and I've seen her treat jailkeeps as guilties before.
McMenno - He could go either way, low impact. The Momo push looks like a bus to me.
MariaR - She's the only player with a high post count who hasn't done something anti-town as fuck. I also dig her voting record.
TD - Momo flipping scum makes me think he's town thanks to Postie mainly.
Cass - Frozen Angel was hard town. Cass' play has been just detrimental enough for town to keep around, and Momo's initial push on her last phase reads like he was trying to succeed in lynching her.

Town

[Narna]

Cass what was your result from last night, and can you verify the element changing?

[Narna]

Those are some solid freaking reasons to scumread someone for me. Discrediting would be something akin to, and I'm just making this up, "lol^" Rach has sheeped obvtown Cass in lynching townies all game and your slot is even more guilty of this. It's been unaccountable for your vote all game minus last phase. Giving your vote to Cass isn't even too meaningful considering you can take it back whenever. I don't see what Cass sees in it.

[Narna]

Shocker

, I'd be surprised if you're able to coast on Cass to a win like this. Cass could you put out a reads list for me? You have the doublevote, so you're kind of a big deal.

[Narna]

I subbed in explicitly because yume was obvious town and town sucked bad enough to be stuck in 9p lylo.

I don't like theme games but I thought rc was never going to find a sub

, so I bit the bullet and took it as a challenge.

It sounds to me like you subbed in explicitly because you didn't think RC was going to find a sub, but good for you. I don't see anything AI in Yume's 10 post iso. Have a cookie.

it's hilarious you try to sell me as coasting to a win when I've made more content in my 1.5 days being here than you did the entirety of the thread. I've already showed td stating he intended to 1v1 me today before the day evene started, but it's obvious you no killed because there was nobody to kill. you're obviously never resolving mc/maria for us, td is stuck in his moronic cass/Eddie scum team tunnel (note that he even tried to get cass lynched first which is fucking hilarious), you're trying to buddy cass while shading me and rach, and the third scum is ???. apparently td spent the night buddying mc which further points to Maria, but regardless you and td get to flip first.

Sheeping one slot all game is coasting, post count be damned. And you're leaving out the first 4 days of nothing from Yume. I know that is null for her, but it's funny you claim she was obvtown. I have a read on them, sorry I haven't cracked the mcmaria code completely. And cool you described TD's read progression.

[Narna]

No one is giving cred to day 2. The phase didn't last 24 hours. I doubt you even saw the scumclaim from Bully at the end of d1. Keep inflating your post count though, by all means.

[Narna]

No one is giving cred to day 2. The phase didn't last 24 hours. I doubt you even saw the scumclaim from Bully at the end of d1. Keep inflating your post count though, by all means.

quote this scum claim.

What did you read that made Yume obvtown before replacing?

Elemental

Trinity

Mafia:

Votecount 1.160:

Transcend (9): The Glitter Patrol, Davesaz, PeregrineV, cassielle,

Yume

, TiphaineDeath, McMenno, Infinity 324, nancy
TiphaineDeath (3): Postie, Transcend, Lil Uzi Vert
Postie (2): No Bullying Allowed, Narna
nancy (1): Moth
No Bullying Allowed (1): Creature
Lil Uzi Vert (0):
MariaR (0):
The Glitter Patrol (0):
PeregrineV (0):
cassielle (0):
Davesaz (0):
Infinity 324 (0):
Creature (0):
Narna (0):
RachMarie (0):
Moth (0):
Yume (0):
McMenno (0):

Not Voting: RachMarie, MariaR

With 18 alive it's 10 to lynch.
The day will end in (expired on 2017-03-01 23:00:00).

Seeking replacement for Moth.

L-1
Claim sucka
VOTE: Transcend
-Akarin

rip town role stopper.

[Narna]

Scum in TD and Eddie is p cool. The scumteam is Eddie, PV, Rach, and McMenno.

Scum

Eddie - I don't agree with swiftly discrediting of the 'not guilty'. It makes sense to have Eddie make the kill considering he seems to have no night action.
PV - Hard lurk, could go either way, but the dark element puts him ahead of McMenno.
Rach - She's been playing dummy safe with a lame role that can revive. She has next to no voting record, and I've seen her treat jailkeeps as guilties before.
McMenno - He could go either way, low impact. The Momo push looks like a bus to me.
MariaR - She's the only player with a high post count who hasn't done something anti-town as fuck. I also dig her voting record.
TD - Momo flipping scum makes me think he's town thanks to Postie mainly.
Cass - Frozen Angel was hard town. Cass' play has been just detrimental enough for town to keep around, and Momo's initial push on her last phase reads like he was trying to succeed in lynching her.

Town

Problem: I thought I was /scum/ on D5. Also, I noted your refusal to discuss the only topic worth mentioning on D5 (me vs. momo) in favor of a 1v1 that you disagree with now completely (me vs. TD).

I figured it'd be better to pick out of the three dark players in lylo than the playerlist. I treated Momo as if there was an inno on him until a good amount of days passed without a blitzhammer on you (I asked Nancy if it was a safe inno later than the concern you're quoting). You and TD have had scummy/anti-town moments. Given the gamestate yesterday (having momo's vote on you all day), you're probably town. And TD is scum in your eyes now. I was more sure on TD than Momo.

Things are being shifted beneath the surface and I don't want anyone to start having /ideas/.

What a boner killer.

[Narna]

I missed the part where your role was confirmed or relevant. Sure thing, you did your part bb.

[Narna]

So then cass, since he has picked you and I, why is he buddying us so hard if he is scum Eddie as TD states? and why do you think TD is wrong about his jailkeep result?

You tell me why scum buddies with people.

[Narna]

@pv

I am the sk

[Narna]

Did town cass seriously track td. Inquiring townin4e wants to knoww

[Narna]

I fucked a preggo bithc this weekend. I think it maekes me town.

[Narna]

OPk nevermined the shitposting, we should no lynch. It's the right move.

VOTE: No Lycnh

Cass I don';t get how you aren;t seeing the hard buddying int your direction. I'll quote sdome shit if you need it.s

[Narna]

Pere and Nara were IN the homestuck game with me where as JK I pushed hard on people I jailed and we lynched them and bam every one of them turned out to be town, yet we still kept having no kills it was an insane game I know what it is like to be wrong as JK. Between Pere who was the town vig, and myself, we killed more townies than scum did, The final straw that killed things was that we had a guy who could loverize and double doc protect them for the night any two players he chose, a watcher, me the JK, and the scum stood no chance in the end, the four of us pretty much worked together in unsion.

So yeah I can see td being so sure he is right and still being town, I am not as sold either one of them is scum. I am trying to get more from everyone so I can analyze it and see where the patterns are.

your jk eventually caught scum, and the only reason ther was cofusion is because the scumteam had no clue how to use their reedirect, anf theu actifvley usede it to defend townies with the doubler doc.

[Narna]

why is rach obv town? I've never seen rach play like this,.

[Narna]

lol

[Narna]

I got this fat ass booty no dick in the trunk

[Narna]

lmao at people saying no lynchihng isn't the best town action todayl Do I need to break down stattisttics for you?

[Narna]

no one is agrreeeing on anytthing

[Narna]

Ima famopus dex maria and cass if they dfon't no lynch with me

[Narna]

or lynch eddie

[Narna]

Ima famopus dex maria and cass if they dfon't no lynch with me

aren't we all

CUTE

I waqnna take a McMenno home!

[Narna]

Wait till day 7 for relevant info

[Narna]

wanting d7 with lower odds of failure is anti town

[Narna]

HOW HAVE PV OR YUME LASTED THIS LONG

[Narna]

OR RACH

[Narna]

OR MVMCEMMO

[Narna]

ohwai we just coasting cass wewww

[Narna]

Cass, break it down for me using common core.

[Narna]

Can I interest you in swinging the lynch pv's way?

[Narna]

Really. We have a hard guilty collectively shared by Eddie, McMenno and TD. There is never, ever any need to lynch outside of that pool today short of someone jumping up and scumclaiming.

PV's play this phase did nothing to sort himself or others in mylo, and he's a dark soul. PV is easy to read lategame. I can also see Rach claiming that Postie was the killer n3 (with zero evidence, mind you) to try and throw me. Eddie doesn't seem to be happening, but I'm getting more and more sure of this. All that matters is lynching scum, not playing probability.

[Narna]

This phase is probably the towniest I've ever seen McMenno play. It's a weird look.

[Narna]

I wasn't completely 100% totally sold on PV town, it just was my best guess. I'm not sold on Wisdom yet either, I need to see more from them.

Yeah, RachMarie is obvtown (though largely inactive).
Narna is CUTE: Creature (the D1 NK) called him out as scum when he was unable to come up with any meaningful reads, and had prior said he expected Narna to gamesolve instantly. Narna has since coasted and played to a bad-town or def-scum approach. I've played multiple games with Creature, and he was probably very serious (if a bit hyperbolic) about his expectations for Narna, and he's not a bad town player. That indicates to me that Narna is probably a very good town player -- but he hasn't acted like good town, he's acted like, at best, bad town. I've got no real choice but to scumread him as a result.
MariaR or McMenno must be scum, but I don't think they can be scum together, due to a late-game hard-push (starting /in LyLo/) that feels strictly losing for scum (since neither of them are hard-backing Narna and McMenno is in fact willing to lynch Narna).
TD might be tilted town, but if he is then I think he'll throw the game for town if we end up back in LyLo with him around, and so I have no choice but to treat him as scum, since if I don't I think we lose either way.

And yes, if Eddie is town, I cannot be scum, this was mechanically proven. We must be scum together or I must be town, and A: I'm town, B: I strongly believe Eddie is town due to his play and my thoughts on his predecessor.

I happen to know

for a fact

that Creature has me in his top 5 townies on the site, but I'm going to need you to point out where he says anything about his read on me. It seemed to me like he was mostly reaction fishing with his 'scumread'.

I'm still not seeing the obvtown Rach I know and love (It's not just the activity Rach).

Maria and Mcmenno look townier than PV/Rach this phase.

"We lose if TD is town, so scum" ok. It's stuff like this that made me weary of having the major Transcend pushers around for lylo. I won't push you too hard on this, but can you please assure me that you didn't track the jk last night at least?

[Narna]

kukuku

I don't have solid freaking reasons for scumreading you. cass is lock town and is certain you're scum. that's all the reasoning I need. rach is never getting lynched so u can stop trting.

[Narna]

I don't see myself lynching outside of Eddie/Wisdom today.

[Narna]

Talking with caught scum is fun, fun!

[Narna]

No bullying allowed!

[Narna]

But what to do when one fails at step 4 Master Eddie?

[Narna]

Narna is underwhelming compared to the other game I played with him and is probably also scum.

pfffft. You were scum in that game, and got me mislynched for 'lurking' and being generally underwhelming. No one even listened to me after death despite being right.

[Narna]

Narna is underwhelming compared to the other game I played with him and is probably also scum.

pfffft. You were scum in that game, and got me mislynched for 'lurking' and being generally underwhelming. No one even listened to me after death despite being right.

Is there a point here? Are you trying to call me scum? Because it sounds you really hesitate to if so

That was my worst game on the site, and I'm much more confident in my play this game. Your predecessor was scum with an anti-town ability and you enter the game spewing this bullshit when it's getting popular to call me scum.

[Narna]

Your slot was one of the three people he wanted to lynch earlier today (the others being

me

and Eddie), so I have my strong doubts. But we'll see, sure.

Yeah I didn't try to lynch you this phase, at all.

[Narna]

Why was I never told who was in the fucking dark pt by the way?

[Narna]

Also I'm pretty sure at this point I have said that I think the Scum no-kill-gambit is the most likely scenario from last night, as much as it hurts my ego for that to be true.

I'm not buying that for a second, and if it is what went down, it's your fault for telegraphing your target. Eddie or you are scum.

[Narna]

Cass

Town this game

Spoiler:

[Narna]

IF YOU ARE SO CERTAIN NARNA IS SCUM AND DUG INTO A HOLE WHY NOT FUCKING VOTE THEM

WHY "SAVE THE KNOWN SCUM FOR LAST"

WHY WORK THROUGH 1V1s FIRST WHEN YOU HAVE "CAUGHT FUCKING SCUM"

ALL GAME WITH YOU AND YOUR SHITTY MOONLOGIC FUCK OFF

QFT

[/quote]

[Narna]

can we lynch Wisdom I'd feel better on that one ty

Single and ready to mingle yet?

[Narna]

Though Narna did just basically ask to be lynched, that is moderately compelling XD.

Not quite, no.

[Narna]

VOTE: Wisdom

I know no one wants to engage me, but try playing find the town motivation in PV's

mylo

posting.

[Narna]

resist, stay the course

[Narna]

"Someone kept the same posting time over and over again" Prob makes them town

????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

I strongly townread Wisdom and weakly wanted to townread PeregrineV (but didn't due to my reads not including the true scum set) most of the game. I was wrong to apply my read there.

No, the consistency is just strongly NAI -- e.g. his posting would not change regardless of alignment. My bad.

Nah, town pv ramps it up lategame, and obvtowns out.

[Narna]

I'm collecting RC avi's! What's the going rate on those?

[Narna]

resist, stay the course

resist, stay the course

resist, stay the course

resist, stay the course

[Narna]

@TD Can I stay in your pocket longer?

@MC I love you

/cries/

[Narna]

Ftr I had a really long post in drafts that I was writing saying that I was fakeclaiming etc. and all my thoughts and I finished it and clicked submit right as Jae hammered so it never got posted so while that /looks/ a lot like a gamethrow it technically wasn't because when I got to L-1 I decided I shouldn't do that and then I apologized to Jae for it and that's why I got modkilled - for apologizing to Jae and telling them that I was /about/ to come clean and stop gting.

free nancy!

[Narna]

Creature and Infinity sniffed some kind of scum powder. I'm super glad td chose to nix Creature because Infinity shifted somehow.

[Narna]

Words to my scumteam.
I'm really sorry for playing like shit but thanks for carrying me.

RC I love every game you mod.

We did it!

Spoiler: warning gifs on gifs

[Narna]

free nancy!

I had you as lockscum from like your first post Day 2 ftr

That's why I had to give you something to really sink your teeth into (Thankfully you started throwing)

post 4209, Narna"]

butt fuck pre-flip associates.

[Narna]

VOTE: McMennoVOTE: McMenno

[Narna]

TD had some bad posts. Like I know I play to lose as scum, but some of those were glaringly bad.

[Narna]

I'm more curios as to why mc and Maria played like they did

Maria was genuine townie as fuck, much like trans, and nancy, if that makes sense. The gamestate was not healthy at all most of the game. You just got mcmeme'd.

[Narna]

Another game I couldn't do anything...

you had the whole scumteam plus Nancy or some shit d1. Git bodied

[Narna]

I thought TD played well and very towny towards the end but maybe I didn't read him close enough.

he really, really botched his guilty. I town read him coming into the thread and blah blah whatever I'm not gonna whine i didnt argue hard enough to lynch td

So then.

I basically was the worst town player this game, by /god/ was I bad. I had good reads here and there, but I was trying too hard to gamesolve and getting tilted by my townreads left and right.

I feel that I was so bad, in fact, that I'm taking a break from Mafia, because I can't imagine someone doing a worse job than me that game. I'm honestly embarassed and owe most of the town a huge apology.

I do think other players have things they could have improved upon, but I don't think I'm the one to be talking there. Good game everyone.

wrong

I can't swing a lynch ever, you had all of the influence. That's actually the hard part, reads come later.

[Narna]

uggh you all hammered before I could get back to the game thanks all, meh

I actually was going to vote for narna because it did not feel like the narna I was used to. I was holding back because I still felt bad about voting for him in the wake game

meh

git bodied!

[Narna]

D1 cass took the spotlight from some of the best FA and best Math showings I've ever seen. She deserves a scummy or two for that phase alone.

[Narna]

i still judge you for giving narnaaaa the vote though -_-

resist, stay the course

[Narna]

Nah, we would have had TD roleblock Cass, with me infiltrating cass for a second no kill. Thus clearing TD for endgame while lynching me before I fucked anything up.

[Narna]

So could Cass have figured out TD was lying by following him on an even night?

[Narna]

guyz I had fun scumming with my scumteam btw.

unrelated, but sick lolhammer

[Narna]

I thought you were town for it Transcend

[Narna]

The bias coming off of that marathon game win must've taken over.

[Narna]

Cool game RC and gg all. I wish I could have been here for the beginning role picking. The theme is balling.

[Narna]

McMenno 'knows'