Spring Fever (Endgame)

[Alisae]

is this going to set a longest day record?

yeah good luck beating civ's day 1.

[Alisae]

That is a slot that no one has talked about because why?

[Alisae]

refering to the shqif slot

[Alisae]

So no one has talked about the slot because it's on V/LA
Got it.

UNVOTE:
Yeah, we don't lynch Dunn without A. A claim and B. That person talking.

[Alisae]

OH NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!

[Alisae]

Why?

[Alisae]

wait the slot was nowhere in lynch range lmao god dammit giga
VOTE: Dunnstral

[Alisae]

no i unvoted and then trans meme'd me.

[Alisae]

Gawsh Frog, I know it's scum. THATS WHY I WAS VOTING IT ;~;

[Alisae]

FROOOOOOG ;~;

[Alisae]

Froggy gets moody and when he gets moody his sib is here to comfort him and give him hugs and make sure he doesn't lose his sanity.
/me hugs

[Alisae]

yeah fuck the irrelevant guy.
I'm just going to assume he will be dealt with.

[Alisae]

frog im bored ;~;
zzz

[Alisae]

Titus can you vote dunnstral purdy please?

[Alisae]

btw quick question besides commenting on the avi change.

off the top of your head, does anyone seem to be trying to buddy Aelita?

[Alisae]

Wanna try to take a look with me because Aelita is very buddyable and pocketable if she's town.

[Alisae]

oh wait.
Aelita never game me a readlist.
yeaaaaah I guess we can't do that. ;~;

I mean we could try.
Let's see...
First interactions that really come to mind are their interactions with Titus.
And Titus is always like that
zzz

OH YEAH!

@jjh

- you'll probably see this eventually. Can you vote Dunnstral too or talk to me about your read on them or do both?

pedit: YEP!

[Alisae]

I think I hate this avi already ;~;

hold on, I'ma change it.

[Alisae]

Alright, here we go. Tit- I mean D.Va Online!
Overwatch w00t!

[Alisae]

Alright, hold on!

[Alisae]

ALRIGHT I GOT IT FROG!

[Alisae]

Would Titus really deny a bond would Aelita if their goal was to buddy and try to pocket them?
Like currently they're trying to bond with Heartless.
Hell, did Titus even know it was Yume? Eh, probably was obvious anyways.
They're probably just talking to them and approaching them like any other townread.

[Alisae]

I agree with that tbh.
Out of her scumreads, the only real ones I remember her really pushing are Vecna and jj.

[Alisae]

She was like "Dunn and Bella are both scum."
but she hsa never tried to push any of those slots.

[Alisae]

Dunn/Trans/Titus/RadiantCowbells

[Alisae]

Did Titus ever acknowledge the Trans pushes?
I don't exactly remember.

[Alisae]

{Frog, Aelita, giga, Random}
{jj, Fire, Heartless, Gork, Bella}
{Vecna}
{Shiqf, McMenno} - Obvious null line
{Dunn, Trans, Titus}

[Alisae]

You think jj and Titus could be threatre?
She seems to be going nowhere with that push.

pedit: Eddie I'm sorry, I just think of giga when I think of your hydra ;~;

[Alisae]

btw Eddie feel free to join in whenever.

[Alisae]

Fire.
What the fuck are you doing?

[Alisae]

btw Eddie feel free to join in whenever.

joinewhatttt

Me and Frog are bouncing stuff back and forth.

[Alisae]

I have my reasons for random.

[Alisae]

Let me try to explain Random real quick.

Beware though, you might not get anything
out of this that is like, REALLY REALLY
Useful but like,
don't worry, he's town

[Alisae]

YEAH!
FROG SUMMED UP MY READ PERFECTLY!

[Alisae]

u n
N u

hehe it's funny because it's the samething upside down

[Alisae]

but yeah, ya know, like arranged marrage and you can't ever find a way out of it because if you do people get angry for really stupid reasons because lol fuck me.

[Alisae]

Titus, have you ever actually talked about your bella or fire reads?

[Alisae]

but yeah Frog, ya feel me?

[Alisae]

Anyway.

We've townbloc'd this game off enough where we are going to win, and we don't have Spiffeh or ABR to derail things like in Civ

Yup. We can.

Alisae Heartless Aeita Titus

Eddie and Gork too.

Why not my long lost sib Frog? ;~;

[Alisae]

Anyway.

We've townbloc'd this game off enough where we are going to win, and we don't have Spiffeh or ABR to derail things like in Civ

Yup. We can.

Alisae Heartless Aeita Titus

Eddie and Gork too.

Lmao not putting me in there.

It's ok. You rolled scum. I get it

This type posting is why not Frogger. He's not seeking to unify organically but force a block ala Smackdown. Blocks happen organically.

um...the me, eddie, frog bloc happened completely naturally Titus...
if anyone that's trying to force blocs it's you.

[Alisae]

Fire, ik you hate mafia and stuff, but can you make an ali happy and tell me where you are at with reads en stuff pretty please?

[Alisae]

Titus, the only thing I can really say you would be town for is when you reasonably told jj to actually hunt scum.

What do you think of their short and brief Heartless push?

[Alisae]

LOL TITUS PLEASE

You did NOT have a good reason for doing that gambit, and I have no idea why you thought you could get away with it with this playerlist.

[Alisae]

Let's talk about Heartless.

Heartless is convinced that, regardless of Vecna's alignment, the people who jumped to ThinkBig's defence must be scum.

That is, he thinks that someone of Eddie, Transcend and Dunn is scum, and that it's likely to be Dunn. No problems up to this point, right, Heartless?

Let's case. So, first up, I seem to recall me attempting to defend TB too and I did a pretty shit job of it. Why am I not the vote? How has my interaction been missed? Probably overshadowed by the fact that me and Titus started slugging it out soon after that, but, nonetheless, I was there and have been missed.

Heartless has been able to specifically avoid having an opinion on the Vecna slot post-replacement through this without looking suspicious at all. Conflicted opinions? I'd think hydra dissonance was possible but we've not seen any of that. So no, it's not that. They likely agree on not giving an opinion.

So what does that leave? I have no idea what the first point could mean, but it might mean the posts in context were skimmed over a bit, or maybe I didn't actually defend ThinkBig at all and I'm imagining that I did. The second point is the foundation of my case. Heartless is setting up a case to lynch Dunnstral in day 2 if we lynch Vecna, and I think the case works regardless of whether or not Vecna is town or scum.

Vote: Heartless

Tell me why I'm wrong, scary hydra person.

[Alisae]

That's what I was refering too.

[Alisae]

oh no
im being bullied
heartless will save me now

[Alisae]

Titus where are you at with your Dunn read atm?

[Alisae]

7 is L-2.
I revoted and then fire added to the wagon that's l-2.

[Alisae]

oh wow nvm.

[Alisae]

eddie my vote is on Dunn.

[Alisae]

Hey Titus.
Remember Code:Geass?

[Alisae]

I mean like, you were right about Gamma hydra then.
But idunno, I'm not liking you so far ;~;

[Alisae]

We can always go 1v1 if chu know what I mean
click.

[Alisae]

hi anti
how r u?

[Alisae]

anti you'll be fine.

and titus, idunno, i'm kinda good at russian roulette and i don't think i

Need someone to give me a
Clear okay.

[Alisae]

eh tbh i'm not surprised you don't remember that tbh i vaguely remember it as well.

[Alisae]

nah it's not elemental trinity. There were no Russian Roulette stuff in Code:Geass.

[Alisae]

because Dunn is doing fuckall nothing?
The litteral definition of coasting. Is Dunnstral.
Plus, he's not pushing anything at all. He voted you.
Is he doing anything with it?
No.

[Alisae]

TBH I should really change my avi to an Ali avi to complete the sibling transformation

When us siblings unite, scum get gun'd down 1 by 1.

[Alisae]

@Vecna

- Can you come vote Dunn with me pretty please? if not can you talk to me about your read on them?

[Alisae]

yeah same I need to sleep as well.
hopefully we get a lynch through so that isn't a problem anyways.

[Alisae]

catching up

[Alisae]

what the fuck I thought I was!

[Alisae]

tbh I didn't even notice a claim when I read through hold on.

[Alisae]

Also, I will claim my role: I'm a tracker/watcher. If I'm the active player in a bond I become a watcher

You're missing the flavor part.

[Alisae]

Dunnstral.

[Alisae]

The post I just quoted Frog -_-

[Alisae]

I AM NOT BAD A CRUMBING
FITE ME!
Okay going to school now, let's go.

[Alisae]

Wait.
In the active bond he is the watcher.
But in the passive bond he can still track? That's what I'm assuming based off of what he said. And that doesn't make sense because the passive can't use their abilities.

[Alisae]

I'm just going by what RC said.

pedit: Oh.

[Alisae]

I am town.

[Alisae]

Oh yeah I should vote Dunn.
VOTE: Dunn

[Alisae]

UNVOTE:

[Alisae]

Frog who's scumzz?

[Alisae]

If Titus is scum with Dunn and Dunn is fake claiming, Titus was so quick to bus when Fire mentioned the Lie Detector lmao.

[Alisae]

Titus in that case howcome he hasn't followed us onto Dunn?

[Alisae]

Wait, where was this neg utility claim?

[Alisae]

Yeah things like Ascetic, Miller, Hated, you claim in your first post, like how I did with do not bond with me.
That way town doesn't target you. Claiming them later on is sus as fuck.

[Alisae]

oh jjh can't be on a lynch wagon and use his night action, right?

pedit: Scum can fakeclaim it and it'll look like they're trying to avoid getting targetted by prs and stuff like cops. Millers claims that are not in the first post are just overall scumclaims.

[Alisae]

I'm just trying to think of the provability of the claim then...

[Alisae]

Yeah I definitely believe you here and tbh I think you might be town for it tbh.

[Alisae]

I'm also trying to figure out the scum motive in that play and right now I'm not really seeing it.

[Alisae]

It's not what he's doing, it's the way he did it. Like, it came across genuine to me. Not to mention it makes sense as to why he's playing around with his vote the way he is.

[Alisae]

Like, if I'm going crazy and being bad at this game please tell me but like, I understand what he is claiming is NAI.

pedit: FINE I GET IT GAWSH

[Alisae]

Okay yeah I'm just going to step away I think I made Fire really angry ;~;

[Alisae]

OH MY GOD ARE YOU STILL GOING ON ABOUT THAT HOLY SHIT THAT IS SO FUCKING IRRELEVANT.

pedit: If I had a solid read on him I would out it but right now he's all over the place so really I have no idea. Sorry Gork ;~;

[Alisae]

As town he's pushing things. And talking about reads and stuff. Ya know, doing things that are town. He also tries to size up individual players to see how to approach them.

As scum he lurks in neighborhoods and trying to manipulate people through there. I dunno if he's in any hoods so I can't really help you there. I don't know how he would when he doesn't have hoods.

[Alisae]

Oh yeah and he's usually a wallposter.

[Alisae]

Also when he has hoods as scum he lurks and relies on the people in the hood to do the rest when he's scum. I dunno how he would approach that when he's town.

[Alisae]

He would play as usual inside of hoods. Lurk out in the main thread.
Don't recall any big differences, and the game was mostly based off of two main neighborhoods.

Also I was the mod, so modbias can be a thing.

pedit: Vecna right now I'm skimming what is happening because school.

[Alisae]

Like Gork, I never was really in a situation where I was playing with scum!jj and I had to try to read him.

[Alisae]

Last time I played with scumfrog it was HoH, but I highly doubt Frog is scum here. Frog gets really moody a lot when he's town.

Oh yeah, there was White Flag but he didn't do much that game, that game we were hydraing and mostly me. He contributed a little bit and posted as me in lylo so we could get our scumwin.

[Alisae]

Like, his response to ThinkBig replacing out tbh was town!Frog 100%

[Alisae]

jj why didn't you acknowledge my analysis of your play? ;~;

[Alisae]

Nah it was genuine that time.
Also as town he's all bouncy bouncy all over the place and I saw some of that in him here as well.

[Alisae]

umm...this is awkward um...

[Alisae]

I really don't know Vecna. He's null for me at the moment.

jjh for future reference just treat ongoing games as they don't exist.

[Alisae]

meta is a good place to start when approaching a player. Like, you aren't obvtowning to me and when we have been town together you usually do that.

[Alisae]

@Vecna

- Why are you trying to search for a reason to scumread Frog? That seems like what you might be doing, so if it isn't can you talk to me about this?

[Alisae]

Also Vecna, what are your current reads?

[Alisae]

Vecna. I thought you would know by now I like to sheep my townreads a lot ;~;

What are you doing with your jjh vote then?

pedit: Nah, their rage and frustration is something I just don't see from then when they are scum.

[Alisae]

Like, they seem super frustrated when they try to push you and find out it's not working, and that kind of shit is super towny for them.

[Alisae]

What about it is forced?

[Alisae]

Aelita why do you think you are an easy target?

[Alisae]

Yeah, I know your main and all. And I know your reputation it's just I don't think you did anything that's really scummy besides what happened in early game. I'm just not seeing it.

[Alisae]

Like, if you were easy there would be people that are pushing you and stuff, or scum would make some sort of attempt to settle on you as a compromise or something, and I'm just not seeing any of that stuff here.

[Alisae]

Yeah I know, I am kinda paused at the lack of a counterwagon.

pedit: Alright if you say so.

[Alisae]

leashing a tracker?
eww

[Alisae]

okay going away now because life see cya in a few hours.

[Alisae]

catching up.

[Alisae]

Fuck man, I read but I don't even know what the fuck is even going on anymore.

[Alisae]

Titus, are you hardpushing Bella?
If not, can you do that?
Or do you have bigger fish to fry atm.

Because one of my concerns is that you're throwing like, a lot of shade at Bella, but I haven't actually seen a really hard push from you yet on them.
Like, you're definitely pushing jj, don't get me wrong, just, can I see some of what you're pushing towards bella maybe?

[Alisae]

Like a vote would be nice.
plz I read except I have no idea what is even going on anymore I just think I want this day to end.

[Alisae]

Also Titus why is Trans town?

[Alisae]

Also Titus why is Trans town?

Early game tone. Trans is relatively easy to sort. Is he lurking? Scum. Has he tried? Town.

This isn't my experience with scum!Trans at all... ;~;
I don't even remember scum!Trans lurking whenever I played with him. And I caught him a lot.
Plus, isn't he lurking now?

[Alisae]

I've played with scum!Trans plenty of times.
HoH
Bill Wurtz
Game of Spies

I caught him in ALL of those games.
I also will admit, I may have misread him in a couple of games too (main one that really comes to mind is the Matrix6 No Flip)

[Alisae]

But yeah, tbh the main townpoints I can see Trans getting right now is the fact that I think he would be trying a bit more if he was scum. A LOT more.

[Alisae]

This game feels like civ and I was very fucking excited for civ and this game ;~;

[Alisae]

ok I'll not post for awhile bye bye.

[Alisae]

VOTE: shiqf

ok, NOW I am not going to post for awhile.

[Alisae]

Frog.
I want to end the day.

[Alisae]

I honestly don't care what happens any more, I just want the day to be over.

[Alisae]

can we lynch something yet?

[Alisae]

Dunn you never gave us flavor.

[Alisae]

Titus is loved and loyal.
Got it.

[Alisae]

if i can help make the game more enjoyable for people by posting less I'll try to tone it down a bit.

[Alisae]

Oh Titus I get it now.

[Alisae]

if only we can bond ;~;

[Alisae]

{Titus, Frog, Heartless, Dunn, Random, Eddie, Aelita, Gork, Fire}
{Vecna, Trans}
{McMenno, jjh, shiqf, bella} - I guess I'll lynch anyone that's in here.

[Alisae]

VOTE: jjh

[Alisae]

at this point i'm just sheeping trs because I want the day to end. I'm also trying to tone down my posting a bit but I think I'm doing a bad job?

[Alisae]

i feel like this is civ all over again and i hate it.

[Alisae]

Dunn. What the fuck are you trying to accomplish right now?

[Alisae]

Titus they didn't.
Don't even bother asking that.
Let me try to explain it to frog.

[Alisae]

Hey Frog.
Dunn is being mean and stuff
And like a jerk.

But Titus needs them alive. Titus claimed loyal and they're hoping Dunn tracks them to Heartless or Watches Heartless.

[Alisae]

You still don't get it huh frog

I'm telling you to stop spamming before I ruin this game

[Alisae]

Frog how do you feel about bella?

pedit: JJ definitely did defend TB

[Alisae]

Oh wait you scumread her please don't kill me the one thing I'm trying to do is not get an angry frog going.

[Alisae]

idunno judging by your recent posts I thought you scumread her mybad ;~;

[Alisae]

tbh that made me feel moreso worthless then an attempt to keep me in line but whatever, guess what I have to say really doesn't matter.

Frog I feel like all of Titus' posts, especially the ones about townreads and how frustrated she was that they weren't working together is something that comes from town!Titus moreso from scum!Titus. She's just trying to get the town to work together from what I see.

[Alisae]

Frog that was refering to Dunn trying to keep me in line.
Now when I just see you fighting with Titus right now I just dunno what to do ;~;

I wub my frog as well <3

[Alisae]

tbh Frog, I actually like your alternative state moreso then who you think is scum at the moment.
I think that early interaction with Aelita and Dunn might just be a TvT

[Alisae]

Like, I understand why those trios are a thing. Well, why both of them are a thing. Don't get me wrong. I was sorta in that mindset too

[Alisae]

Yeah I'm glad I know you too Frog <3
Can you talk to me about Titus' interactions with Heartless and Dunn?

[Alisae]

With the whole loyal and tracking and stuff.

[Alisae]

Honestly, from what I glanced at it, it seemed moreso like Titus was town, just trying to find ways to get the town working together.
There is something that does bother me about Dunn though.

Hey Dunn, how was RC supposed to do research for your flavor? I tried google and I came up with a bunch of character sheets and stuff. Like, I sorta don't get D&D stuff, but yeah can you humor me here?

[Alisae]

jj, tbh I kinda agree with Titus here.

pedit: Trans can you give me a rainbow colored readlist pretty please?

[Alisae]

Okay, when you get the chance I would love one of those, I need a rainbow to help make me happy :3

[Alisae]

UNVOTE:
Gimmie a moment to take this in.

[Alisae]

Titus I'm just thinking about the claim.
But I thought about it as well as looked at my own role pm.
My wording in my own role pm is similar to jjh's, except it's just in a different order then jjh's.

[Alisae]

VOTE: jjh
had to take a look at my own role pm real quickly so we're putting this back.

[Alisae]

Frog, the wording in my role pm is really different then jjh's, but I'm thinking here it suggests that jjh is fakeclaiming. I am going to out this. I am unspeakably bounded, so I'm checking in with who I am bonded with to know if I am going to fullclaim cc or not, but I also want to point out this.

jjh's claim: modified enabler limited motion detector bonded not-telling-you-that-bit.
TB's claim: Modified Bond Passively Bonded Self-Enabling Disabled Night-Talk Enabler

Doesn't jjh's wording strike you as off?

[Alisae]

unbreakably* fuck typo.

but basically I can't break from my bond or bond with anyone else even if the person I am bonded with dies.

[Alisae]

Yeah, we've been talking since Night 0.
Did you see the post where I compared TB's claim with jjh's? Because that's the important part.

pedit: except I dunno if it matches mine. That's the thing. Me and the person I bonded with are figuring that out.

[Alisae]

I'm saying it doesn't, it's all out of order. And jjh can't be self-enabling since that would be in his role pm.

[Alisae]

I'm copying and pasting TB's claim word for word and jjh's claim word for word and just comparing my own role pm to their claims.

[Alisae]

Yes, I agree there is scum in Vecna/Titus

[Alisae]

btw JJ what is your flavor?

[Alisae]

MY SIB I THOUGHT WE WERE ALWAYS UNITED!

[Alisae]

jj were you paraphrasing your claim?

[Alisae]

Should I just hammer or declare intent?

[Alisae]

VOTE: shiqf
WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!

[Alisae]

I think you got off it just in time.

[Alisae]

That flip. Literally made me cry. I am so happy.
I love Frog.
Don't worry my long lost love.
I WILL AVENGE YOU

BY LYNCHING THE SCUMBUTT
WHO INFILITRATED MY BOND WITH RANDOM
VOTE: MCMENNO

[Alisae]

Yeah, Prodito has infilitrated our bond and I am assuming that's McMenno due to all of the Elemental Trinity references he made.

He knows everything now.

[Alisae]

Basically he is apart of my bond with random.

It was a scum role in Elemental Trinity.
It is a scum role here.

[Alisae]

Basically he's apart of the Private Topic, yes.

[Alisae]

Titus, I'm not happy with the shit you pulled yesterday, and I'm not happy with Aelita with some of their content.

pedit: Yeah, he can see that.

[Alisae]

He can also see my own.

[Alisae]

Yeah, random's role pm suggests a strongman is in the game.

[Alisae]

It's okay McMenno, you're scum that's getting powerlynched

[Alisae]

Trans who's your guilty?
Heartless, what do you mean? RC announced that Pridito has infiltrated the bond and McMenno then posted in it. It may not be a clear, but it is a dam good reason for me to not be for lynching random.
Titus not until I check back in with Random if we even want to bother outing it in the main thread.

[Alisae]

Yeah no.
You aren't lynching my enabler.
Sorry.

[Alisae]

Whatever Trans.
I'm not lynching random and if he flips scum ever, then you can call me in denial or some shit.

[Alisae]

Whatever.
I'm a Unbreakably Bonded Compulsive Activity Compulsive Disabled Vigilante.
Apparently Random enables me.
I cannot shoot Random if I get enabled.
Aka I'm Ruby Rose.
He is Jaune Arc.
He can out his role.

[Alisae]

Dunn Random has to preform his action successfully for me to be enabled.
He visited me N1 because I told him to.

[Alisae]

Trans I know this.
It's just I sorta want to eventually be enabled and now I completely lost that chance because of MCMENNO.

[Alisae]

Heartless, I don't get why scum would have that unless he's lieing to me.

[Alisae]

1. Not clearly. The compulsive activity says when I'm disabled, random is active, and vice versa. tbh it mentions Jaune Arc in my role pm a lot, but it never says I am in a bond with specificly Jaune Arc.
2. He claimed.

[Alisae]

Okay, RC just reminded me that random is confirmed Jaune Arc

[Alisae]

Yeah I knew that, I am just questioning my own ability to play a game of mafia.
tbh.
I am in heavy denial of random being scum but I can see it, I just don't want it to be true anymore.

[Alisae]

Also Fire, you're not going to be happy at what McMenno saw in there =(

[Alisae]

Can someone tell me why McMenno is town after shqif's flip?
I seriously do not get it.

[Alisae]

Can someone tell me why McMenno is town after shqif's flip?
I seriously do not get it.

can you explain why I'm scum after shiqf's flip

~narna

Huh, I wonder why Scum would have a bond detector.
Maybe its so that their INFILITRATOR could INFILITRATE A BOND THEY'RE INTERESTED IN.

This isn't rocket science.

pedit: Wait, you got another message or are you refering to the code that was being passed from jjh to you earlier in D2?

[Alisae]

Wait, do I get to shoot things now?

pedit: @Random

pedit: Wait, you got another message or are you refering to the code that was being passed from jjh to you earlier in D2?

[Alisae]

Yeah sure.

[Alisae]

sure

[Alisae]

replace alisae with jjh and it makes sense.

[Alisae]

replace alisae with jjh and it makes sense.

no... it actually makes no sense at all

wait. Did jjh not tell you anything about himself? Because if he didn't, that understands why you're confused.

Also, why is McMenno town?

[Alisae]

Huh, I wonder why Scum would have a bond detector.
Maybe its so that their INFILITRATOR could INFILITRATE A BOND THEY'RE INTERESTED IN.

This isn't rocket science.

[Alisae]

So therefore the role is town...

[Alisae]

/me sigh.
No anti you didn't.
God I need to stop being bad at mafia...

[Alisae]

Yeah, I don't get the bond detector unless scum has something to go with the bond detector that makes the bond detector useful.

[Alisae]

Fullclaim it in hood.

[Alisae]

Yeah it is.

[Alisae]

I claimed my suicide

huh

[Alisae]

So you just suicide and nothing else happens...
That's it...

[Alisae]

Random and McMenno what are your ability names if you don't mind me asking.
Like, ya know when frog has "wait what" which tells me that I recongize him.

[Alisae]

Here.

[Alisae]

No my disabled vigi is called Crescent Rose