Real Folk Blues Rematch [GAME OVER]

[Insomniacs]

Midnight here in California.

Thanks to Nexus for fixing the issue with the hydra account

Good night will post content in the AM when I don't need sugar to hold my neck up.

--MathBlade

[Insomniacs]

I would never claim pgo. That takes all the fun out of the role, and I wanna shoot you two for claiming it. Reading now

-N

[Insomniacs]

VOTE: siblings quarrel
i wanted first
also please not fb's message yall, don't be too spammy and try to condense your thoughts into one post rather than making lots of short ones for a playerlist of this size.

I agree let's all keep the shit posting and spam down guys

The problem is not shitposters. They don't post enough...

[Insomniacs]

Doggo, I'll blow you away too, blap blap

[Insomniacs]

I would never claim pgo. That takes all the fun out of the role, and I wanna shoot you two for claiming it. Reading now

-N

Oh God, did Mathblade hydra with someone even worse than Mathblade?

way to explain the joke idiot

-n

[Insomniacs]

I would never claim pgo. That takes all the fun out of the role, and I wanna shoot you two for claiming it. Reading now

-N

Oh God, did Mathblade hydra with someone even worse than Mathblade?

way to explain the joke idiot

-n

You know what happens, when you call KidAmn an idiot, you stupid idiot?

YOU JUST MADE THE LIST

Are you someone I should know?

[Insomniacs]

a literal who??

[Insomniacs]

I also don't claim miller ecks dee. What a terrible reason to think I'm scum. Because I have an off meta opinion?

-n

[Insomniacs]

Explain why 544 makes me scum doggo xxD

n

[Insomniacs]

I also don't claim miller ecks dee. What a terrible reason to think I'm scum. Because I have an off meta opinion?

-n

Is that "I don't claim Miller" thing real?

yuup

[Insomniacs]

ok gamma, talk about something productive friendo

-n

[Insomniacs]

No, I want to know this.

a) It's fun
b) it's awfully hard to draw the nk after claiming miller

On a more relevant note. The case Doggo is pushing is the kind of nai bullshit point I'd try to push as scum.

-n

[Insomniacs]

Please be very specific. Shiro got lynched in Skullduggery's Undertale mafia for not claiming universal Miller.

He was not a universal miller. There was some nonsense about how he could technically kill the hider because he'd come up guilty (which I'd argue the hider kills himself if anything but that's the past).

No, I want to know this.

a) It's fun
b) it's awfully hard to draw the nk after claiming miller

On a more relevant note. The case Doggo is pushing is the kind of nai bullshit point I'd try to push as scum.

-n

Okay I get point 2. Why is being Miller fun though? It's basically a gimped VT.

It's satisfying to see yourself flip miller from the maf kill. It's even more satisfying to see anti-town die from targeting you in the case of pgo. What do you think of my 544, and is it disgusting/make me scum? I understand the meta behind claiming negative utility roles, and I think doggo is blowing smoke out his ass by calling for a vote based on my saying that claiming takes the fun out of it.

-n

[Insomniacs]

What do you think of Doggo's vote here?

[Insomniacs]

Yeah retreat you damn commie

n

[Insomniacs]

Hyperposting intensifies

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Narna and I haven't read everything (both about half way through) but we agree Gamma is scum based on what we have read.

Based on this we think this is where we will put our long neck out in the line and pluck the scum from their resting place and hopefully lynch them.

VOTE: GammaEmerald

[Insomniacs]

Narna and I haven't read everything (both about half way through) but we agree Gamma is scum based on what we have read.

Based on this we think this is where we will put our long neck out in the line and pluck the scum from their resting place and hopefully lynch them.

VOTE: GammaEmerald

-- MathBlade

[Insomniacs]

Narna and I haven't read everything (both about half way through) but we agree Gamma is scum based on what we have read.

Based on this we think this is where we will put our long neck out in the line and pluck the scum from their resting place and hopefully lynch them.

VOTE: GammaEmerald

Why you no say hi to me?

Because that means I have to acknowledge something I think is antitown to acknowledge.

So you can have a "ih"

[Insomniacs]

Narna and I haven't read everything (both about half way through) but we agree Gamma is scum based on what we have read.

Based on this we think this is where we will put our long neck out in the line and pluck the scum from their resting place and hopefully lynch them.

VOTE: GammaEmerald

Why you no say hi to me?

Because that means I have to acknowledge something I think is antitown to acknowledge.

So you can have a "ih"

--MathBlade

You spread the no signing posts curse Titus.

[Insomniacs]

can't wait to read all of this.
shaping up to be a lovely spiritual successor to Civ mafia. :>

And I AM NOT the hyperactive poster.

#worldBlown

--The Mathy One

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Narna and I haven't read everything (both about half way through) but we agree Gamma is scum based on what we have read.

Based on this we think this is where we will put our long neck out in the line and pluck the scum from their resting place and hopefully lynch them.

VOTE: GammaEmerald

Why you no say hi to me?

Because that means I have to acknowledge something I think is antitown to acknowledge.

So you can have a "ih"

If you acknowedge correctly, you get two conftown.

I understand that and would love it if you would not talk about it please.

--MathBlade

[Insomniacs]

Okay...I got the confTown part but looking at me is a waste of time.
I gave you what you seek already.

Post page 10 who do you scumread?

--MathBlade

[Insomniacs]

walk us through why you scumread gamma

i slightly lean town on him

other head is unsure

Narna scumreads him for two posts and me one.

I did quick ISOs of the active posters when the account got activated and left notes.
Narna left me some.

viewtopic.php?p=9180877#p9180877

That post specifically gave me the ewwwwwws.

--MathBlade

[Insomniacs]

I know what it feels like to play in a game with me now usually.

So gonna continue my catch up but did I miss anything important before I do?

-- MathBlade

[Insomniacs]

Whelp since no one answered my question I am moving on with my catch-up. Fuck Zebras.

-- MathBlade

Y'all are not reading if you can't answer a simple question.

[Insomniacs]

Whelp since no one answered my question I am moving on with my catch-up. Fuck Zebras.

-- MathBlade

Y'all are not reading if you can't answer a simple question.

sorry missed the second part of your post. not much significant has happened really. only major potential 1v1 is not fury vs rach

So far I am townreading both slots.
Narna will be on later I hope.

I am just gonna post my thoughts so far I think.

Thanks for answering my question.

--MathBlade

[Insomniacs]

These are my reads Narna isn't here to sync with.

Right now thinking Gamma, Kid,Twinn, Not Chara, Dave all scum.

Doggo I am leaving to Narna to read and he is waffling.
After 1900 surpremely unqualified to read Transcend.

Rach Marie and Not Fury RB Titus Cerb townreads.

Reasons in a sec phone posting.
If I didn't mention you I don't have a read on you yet.

-- The Mathy One

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Spoiler: Gamma posts I am referring to

I trust the PGO claim for now

HOLY SHIT GAMMA!
YOU LITTERALLY JUST CALLED ME AND GIGGLES A TVT WITH SURFACE LEVEL ANALYSIS.
TO LITTERALLY JUST BACK OUT OF THAT CLAIM
BECAUSE YOU COULD NOT BACK THAT UP.
-Ali

No, I disliked Doggo's tone and voted them for it.

I was thinking of gleaning some meta data from the all hydra blitz on Ali and GBT but I can't read that game without risking a heart attack since it makes me SO SALTY.

RVS is cool kinda suggests town because it's like "hey I'm voted but I kinda don't give a shit!".

gamma

have u considered that maybe as scum alisae thought to write that to.................... give off that impression........................................

what do you think of his push on you now

This is what I take issue with. After trying to discredit SQ, she tries to get me on board the SQ wagon.

Gamma feels like scum as he seems to be taking a reactive rather than proactive approach. A lot of his early posts in his ISO are filler which is rare for him. He also says "for now" which I feel is redudant and that he actually has no stance or is trying to cast doubt. Sketchy as fuck. In 185-221 he seems really sketchy he seems too calm and then in 221 turns the emotion up to 11 and says he won't read because he would become salty. Really?

Finally a major post that pinged me is 499. When people are trying to convince others of things in general they say things that are trying to destroy scum. So trying to get someone to join a wagon shouldn't be an issue.

[Insomniacs]

I would never claim pgo. That takes all the fun out of the role, and I wanna shoot you two for claiming it. Reading now

-N

Oh God, did Mathblade hydra with someone even worse than Mathblade?

I am not a fan of disparaging someone simply because they are in the game.
I understand you don't like me as a player but I ask that you please don't attack Narna who was nice enough to hydra with me to try to help me. If you want to attack someone for breathing have it be me. Not Narna.

--MathBlade

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___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|__
_|___|___|___|___|Doggy.|___|___|___|___|
___|___|___|I like your old vote better.|___|___|__
_|___|___|___|VOTE: KidAmn|___|___|___|___|
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___|___|___|Kid getting mad about|___|___|__
_|___|___|spam, but then spamming|___|___|
___|___|___|because he thinks it's|___|___|__
_|___|___|okay looks really fake.|___|___|
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_|___|___|Rach I am not responding|___|___|
___|___|___|to any meta questions|___|___
_|___|___|___|this game.|___|___|___|
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_|___|___|___|You can expect a|___|___|___|
___|___|___|"please don't vig me"|___|___|__
_|___|___|___|ReadWall tonight.|___|___|___|
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You vastly underestimate how many fucks I've lost in the course of the last few months

I'm a man with no fucks left to give, you hear?

No but for real I'm far far more use for scumhunting when I replace in around midway through D2 instead getting bogged down in RVS and I'm just generally questioning why I came back

Also I've done plenty of actual content in-between the shitposts which is more than several people here can say

Anyone want to find me content KidAmn posted before this post? I can't find it. I tried.

If you townread KidAmn please help me.

--Math

KidAmn's ISO reads like excuses to not give content and just snark at me.

[Insomniacs]

Kid hates me for silly reasons and I scum read him. I would support a kid lynch, a gamma lynch, or a rach lynch. I think Gamma is most likely to be scum, but I can sort him tonight.

Please sort Rach. Random mentioned a 1v1 between you guys and I townread both your beginnings. Would rather not have that dissolve into a major TvT fight scum could hide behind.

--Math

[Insomniacs]

@Math I have not gotten that far down the list yet, been working meta reads first then the unknowns and I don't think I have played with Kid before, though his avatar looks familiar. Unless he is another alt?

The only completed game I have with Kid is Civ to my recollection.
I also don't alt hunt.

What relevance does you have playing with him have on this game?

--Math to Rach Marie

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@Titus: I dont care about the claim itself. I care about why you did it. The response you gave, your non-answer answer, is an issue for me.

I'm a mason. You were a mason and I didn't like your claim or how you did it. It's just a fact of life. I'm playing mason like this. You do you. If you're on my list, I'd like to know so we can stop sniffing each other's butts. Otherwise, I'll just pencil you in as uncooperative. Rare I'd see the day where Math is more cooperative than you.

Titus -- What do you make of my reads so far? I know you said you were going to sheep RB but I would like someone's input so I am not shouting into the abyss. :/

-- Math

Pedit: Rach I would be no help then. I would take each player and go through their ISO unless memory stood out. I don't alt hunt. If someone slips then they do. But I don't alt out or alt hunt. FMPOV if someone is an alt they are for a readon.

Pedit2: Not Fury and RM are top townreads for me.

-- Math

[Insomniacs]

Kid is a newb
One of his first games is a newbie

Kid held his own in Civ mafia. If Kid is a newb he is one of the better ones. I would lean alt but as I don't alt hunt please tell me what you think of this game's posts for Kid.

--Math

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@ Math

Why are you top town reading NF ?

His opening is way over the top designed to attract attention. However when the game started they got down in the dirt. It just feels like Not Fury is a showy flashy player.

--Mathblade

[Insomniacs]

viewtopic.php?p=9183950#p9183950

Start there on my ISO. It has been mostly me because Narna comes on super late. I have his latest thoughts on Discord.

--Math

[Insomniacs]

Kid is a newb
One of his first games is a newbie

Kid held his own in Civ mafia. If Kid is a newb he is one of the better ones. I would lean alt but as I don't alt hunt please tell me what you think of this game's posts for Kid.

--Math

I'm not sure if I'm complimented or offended

Compliffended will have to suffice

Pedit: yeah that about sums them up

They'd probably be an entirely acceptable Mafia player if they did a little more reasoning and a little less self-fellatory spamposting about how right they are tbh

How is posting questions and having to beg for feedback when people aren't reading my posts self fellatory?

--Math

What are your reads?

[Insomniacs]

What type of analysis would you like of Kid's posts.

Just tell me what you think. Like get a read on Kid and share it and why.
--Math

[Insomniacs]

I feel like Kid is town with a bit of a mouth on himself. His posts read as "I don't give a fuck what you think of me this is what I think".

What do you think Kid thinks?
What gives you that impression?

--Math

[Insomniacs]

Still don't see an answer to what are your reads Kid.

--Math

[Insomniacs]

Don't get the first question but I can pull up some quotes to explain what I mean.

Who do you think KidAmn scumreads or townreads and why?
His ISO is barren.

If you think he is Town who tells it like it is, show me where Kid explains his reads.

--Math

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The thread is going a mile a minute Kid.

If you had you can quote them for me. As it is, it is hard enough just to get responses to posts.

So if you did my apologies please link your reads.

--Math

Pedit Gamma. That says something is off. Titus is playing off and I need to write a post to her on how to crumb better. :/ My conversations with crumbs went horribly wrong or she just didn't heed them.

That isn't a read. I want where Kid takes a concrete stance on anything.

--Math

[Insomniacs]

Math/Rach, common sense says noob but skilled. I got the same crap.

Driving so I cannot look at iso yet.

Titus I gotta go but don't post while driving please. Narna is waking up and I want to sync with him.

--Math

[Insomniacs]

I do play cards, poker in particular.

Me too. I play Texas Hold Em tournaments when money allows. Serious question so I can understand how you think: Do you blitz? Conservative? Game type?

--Math

[Insomniacs]

@Titus: Pencil me in as uncooperative in your flavor crumb search. You should know I don't claim things without damn good reasons, and you're not giving me any. Regarding the mason thing: I've only been a mason once on this site, in Suikoden, and we did not claim until forced to in D2 due to the false positives caused by our interactions. You made no complaints about the play.

Claiming mason D1 does not make sense for you. That means you're not a mason. That means you're lying about RB. What I don't know is WHY you're doing that. Perhaps you're informed town, who knows that all members of the bebops crew are town. Perhaps you have some other bit of mod gained knowledge.

Either way, the position you're taking and the action you took are not behaviors I expect from town!Titus. The statements above are my attempts to justify your choices so I don't have to be suspicious of you, but I'm not really buying them.

Cerb. I get why she is doing it. It is with good reason.

She communicated something I can't out or it is antitown. I can say why she did it. I agree that I wouldn't have gone about it how she did. But there is something there you aren't seeing.

--Math

[Insomniacs]

sidenote: if you're town, please at least do a bebop wiki search on your character, so you can be crumbed to and actually fucking understand

THIS GAME IS VERY FLAVOUR INTENSIVE, ITS IMPORTANT

Agreed. Do you understand Mathese?

[Insomniacs]

sidenote: if you're town, please at least do a bebop wiki search on your character, so you can be crumbed to and actually fucking understand

THIS GAME IS VERY FLAVOUR INTENSIVE, ITS IMPORTANT

Agreed. Do you understand Mathese?

i do

Good then I have said everything and nothing and you're set and it is confusing and clear and all is well and not well.

--Math

[Insomniacs]

Who wants me to sheep them?

I want you to have reads.

-- Math

@Cerb: To a point yes it is dumb and to a point it isn't.
When I played the first game some of the flavor pointed me towards things I didn't think of.

[Insomniacs]

@Titus:Oh right, the one way mason thing from my first game on site, a claim that you rightfully took issue with because there was no support for it.

...
@Math: *shrug* I think the game would be greatly improved if people scumhunted instead of spending their time on bullshit cryptic flavor shit.

Seriously.

Townhunting. Seriously. :-p

@Math, If you want to, you can just say you're one on the list.

I have flavor in Cowboy Bebop.
In the interests of self defense I am not who you are looking for and you need to sync with RB.

He understands where I can see and reach. I think.
Pedit: Cerb is town. Gamma scum.
--Math

[Insomniacs]

Cowboy bebop the anime. NOT the right knit small group.

--Math*

[Insomniacs]

Tight*

--Math

Can't type syncing with Narna not posting for an hour or more.

[Insomniacs]

These are my reads Narna isn't here to sync with.

Right now thinking Gamma, Kid,Twinn, Not Chara, Dave all scum.

Doggo I am leaving to Narna to read and he is waffling.
After 1900 surpremely unqualified to read Transcend.

Rach Marie and Not Fury RB Titus Cerb townreads.

Reasons in a sec phone posting.
If I didn't mention you I don't have a read on you yet.

-- The Mathy One

Why are you scum reading Dave and Not Chara?

- Scott

Davesaz is because he would be considered lurking even in a normal game. He has much fewer posts than in games and that is generally how Davesaz plays scum by coasting. I haven't misread him since Gistou but at the same time this means he has a much more active head I want to go after. He would only be this quiet if he could be.

Not Chara is based on what Narna and I feel are inconsistencies regarding Undertale and here. I don't have time to go too indepth right now.

Furthermore I see a lot of words from you that are not about Gamma and Tywinn. Do you townread them? Do you scumread them? Why? I would want Gamma today. Tywinn however would not be bad. I have Shadowrun today people. Will catch up on anything after this post later.

--Math

[Insomniacs]

Not Chara is based on what Narna and I feel are inconsistencies regarding Undertale and here. I don't have time to go too indepth right now.

i'd like you both to.
because you, Mathblade, have far too many towngames with me to be pointing at a single past towngame and saying 'inconsistency'. ;>

Almost: i'm not following you right now, don't you worry.

You seem to be reaching for low hanging fruit. Rach is obvtown and pushing obvtown Rach is unacceptable. Ramcius is lynchbait. I don't like those on their own.

The Undertale thing just accentuates the read. You were looked past the lynchbait Pepto and Giga slots (who were constantly misplaying and being scummy) and defended them as town. I don't see anything scummy from Rach or Ram. The bolded is the important part though.

-N

[Insomniacs]

You seem to be reaching for low hanging fruit. Rach is obvtown and pushing obvtown Rach is unacceptable. Ramcius is lynchbait. I don't like those on their own.

The Undertale thing just accentuates the read. You were looked past the lynchbait Pepto and Giga slots (who were constantly misplaying and being scummy) and defended them as town. I don't see anything scummy from Rach or Ram. The bolded is the important part though.

-N

What makes Rach obv!town? I thought the assessment of Nero in the early game was a reach and I'm still sorting through her change of opinions of the slot

Her approach to the game is total town Rach. She's being extra sure to know who people are/if they're new because she fucks with meta heavy. She's usually extra cautious about Nero for some weird reason. She also missed Kid and NF saying they're from offsite which she's done to me as town, and I don't think she would have missed with a scum pt. Also every time she bounces into the Wall, he looks townier and townier without it looking disingenuous on her end. I've never seen her play scum, but she's too sweet to pull the wool over me.

-N

[Insomniacs]

Call me crazy guys, but I think Gamma and Twinn look scummy as fuck. I'm kind of seeing what Ali's putting down about Scott, but Majiffy/Scott looked tvt to me. I don't really have time to elaborate right now, but we should be staying the course with this Gamma wagon.

-N

[Insomniacs]

Wew Twinn

-N

[Insomniacs]

Twin, your entrance was some hot garbage. You summarized a few events of the game prior to your post without using them to make a point and voted one of the townier slots for "hurr shitposting". In #782 you tell Ram that Doggo is town based on how bad Ram's reads always are and then vote him. Well which is it, town Ram with shit reads or scum? You also bring up the possibility of multiball in that post which you just conveniently ignored when you blew up on us for scumreading both you and Gamma. I'm allowed to scumread you two independently regardless. It's not like Gamma has flipped yet. You're right though. You caught Gamma so hard that our vote and explanation on gamma were retroactively edited into our posts from before you said anything about him. We highlighted a post of Gamma's we didn't like and said there are others that bug us. How is that any different than your glorious "just go iso gamma" case? I wasn't trying to take credit for shit nor trying to create any false associations, but it sure looks like you are. You also throw shade on obvtown Rach at some point which is a big nono.

Narna have you and Math synced yet?

Yeah, what's crackin'?

[Insomniacs]

Twin, your entrance was some hot garbage. You summarized a few events of the game prior to your post without using them to make a point and voted one of the townier slots for "hurr shitposting". In #782 you tell Ram that Doggo is town based on how bad Ram's reads always are and then vote him. Well which is it, town Ram with shit reads or scum? You also bring up the possibility of multiball in that post which you just conveniently ignored when you blew up on us for scumreading both you and Gamma. I'm allowed to scumread you two independently regardless. It's not like Gamma has flipped yet. You're right though. You caught Gamma so hard that our vote and explanation on gamma were retroactively edited into our posts from before you said anything about him. We highlighted a post of Gamma's we didn't like and said there are others that bug us. How is that any different than your glorious "just go iso gamma" case? I wasn't trying to take credit for shit nor trying to create any false associations, but it sure looks like you are. You also throw shade on obvtown Rach at some point which is a big nono.

Narna have you and Math synced yet?

Yeah, what's crackin'?

Math asked for feedback on your reads. I'd like to do that without guessing.

Pretty much Narna and I are in sync on a lot of our reads but for different reasons. We spent a while talking about it. Not a fan of me being called bad for having a life. I am also posting slower intentionally because I am collaborating with Narna. Good night all.
--Mathblade

[Insomniacs]

Not Chara is based on what Narna and I feel are inconsistencies regarding Undertale and here. I don't have time to go too indepth right now.

i'd like you both to.
because you, Mathblade, have far too many towngames with me to be pointing at a single past towngame and saying 'inconsistency'. ;>

Almost: i'm not following you right now, don't you worry.

You seem to be reaching for low hanging fruit. Rach is obvtown and pushing obvtown Rach is unacceptable. Ramcius is lynchbait. I don't like those on their own.

The Undertale thing just accentuates the read. You were looked past the lynchbait Pepto and Giga slots (who were constantly misplaying and being scummy) and defended them as town. I don't see anything scummy from Rach or Ram. The bolded is the important part though.

-N

What makes Rach obv!town? I thought the assessment of Nero in the early game was a reach and I'm still sorting through her change of opinions of the slot

+A billion to Narna well said.

Because she is hunting. Even when on V/LA as Town she hunts with the small amount of time she has. As scum she stalls to give reads and is generally just more bitchy.

#loveYouRM

--Math

[Insomniacs]

Call me crazy guys, but I think Gamma and Twinn look scummy as fuck. I'm kind of seeing what Ali's putting down about Scott, but Majiffy/Scott looked tvt to me. I don't really have time to elaborate right now, but we should be staying the course with this Gamma wagon.

-N

In what world do you think me and gamma are scum buddies? I've been hard pushing gamma forever now, while you try shit flinging without anything to back it up, but then say ridiculous shit like 'lets stay the gamma course' as if you had any fucking thing to do with it. Don't try to take credit when others catch scum. You havent done a single thing all game long, and you're a hydra. That's doubly damning. Two useless scumsters in one scummy slot. The only reason i can think of for you to be saying this gamma + tywin shit is because you know gamma is the inevitable lynch, so you're trying to place false associations with your scum buddy gamma. You know who else did it? SlySly.

Oh and this 'guys look! I'm posting! These players are scum but ohhhhhh look at the time! Got to go! No time to explain any of the bullshit I spew!' is the scummiest thing ive seen all game outside of gamma's ISO, Rams' iso, and SlySlys coin flip post (which is basically his entire iso). Interestingly enough, it happened to have the exact same gamma + Tywin read as the illogical and unexplained shit you've been slinging. Gonna catch your whole scum team by myself at this rate. Onward with gamma, then insomniacs or SlySly next.

First of all, your attacking RL is shit and you'll notice that I wasn't anywhere else on the board. You are better than attacking someone over RL. Secondly I am explaining content as best as I can in a rapid moving thread. You + Gamma makes sense because the bus is awkward as fuck your emotions are waaaaaaaaay too overblown and your interactions with Doggo are atrocious. Onward to us will NOT be a thing. No matter how much you want it to be.

--Math

[Insomniacs]

Agreed. Mainly I hydra'd with Narna and will hydra with another player to try to get my love for Mafia back.

I am an extremely swingy player. In Elemental Trinity I started off bad and I was vigged. In Civ Mafia while I was horribly wrong on scumreads, I was excellent in town ones. I get sick and tired of some of the shit that gets thrown around MS.

Right now the way I am being interacted with and mostly ignored tells me that I am likely on the right track for things. No one is actually talking about them when they are the main wagon and instead trying to bring up diversions.

What do you make of the majority of player base ignoring what I am saying?

--Math

[Insomniacs]

_|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|
___|___|You have an awareness of|___|__
_|___|Civ Mafia. I'm pretty sure you |___|
___|___|should understand why Kid|___|__
_|___|___|could have that POV.|___|___|
___|___|Regardless of your own|___|__
_|___|perception of Math, so I don't|___|
___|___|get why that's scummy?|___|__
_|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|

_|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|
___|I'm asking you for your thoughts|___|__
_|___|on his posting on and after 967.|___|
___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|__

Kid can have a POV I am horrible yes.
However if he is unable to attempt to see a holistic view of each player before calling them horrible then he is merely taking out his anger for that game onto me rather than a genuine scumread. Which means he isn't providing content and looking for a scapegoat. That is in essence the problem. He's decided I am a detriment before I post.

--Math

[Insomniacs]

Now that you mentioned Wall and Rach interactions it reminded me of Wall saying he would spoiler his posts for Rach. I didn't consider it much at the time but now when I think of Gork slipping that he is wall it made me think a thought.

????

He acknowledges he generally finds me scummy but doesn't use that as a reason to townread me.

Just so we're clear, I said that because I currently still think you are scummy.

I hate 1391 because it's really nonchalant. Also there are no scumreads outside of:

Smith: who has posted like maybe a max of 10 times
Slysly: who I think just about everyone has called a mixture of scummy and dodgy

I could be just flat out wrong here but TRing this many people is detrimental to the game state.

Ha nice try.
Slysly is obvTown. Saying everyone is a huge stretch.

This is a 32 player game. As much as I hate it a town block will happen.

--Math

[Insomniacs]

He knows that's the throwaway part of the argument yet only picks at that part, very good.

Pedit: I agree with NC. Why does rach care so much about if they played with wall before? It's just weird.

You agree with NC who said they would vote Rach and was listing reasons to.

-N

[Insomniacs]

Why are you being so abrasive my mans? It doesn't suit you.

-N

[Insomniacs]

You (Tywin) flipped a tit when I said you and Gamma were scum (I didn't say together and Math hadn't said bus at the time) despite knowing the game could very well be multiball. Are you telling me that isn't overblown/defenisve/OMGUS/buzzword? And sure, I picked your cherry Tywin, whatcha gonna do about it?

He knows that's the throwaway part of the argument yet only picks at that part, very good.

Pedit: I agree with NC. Why does rach care so much about if they played with wall before? It's just weird.

You agree with NC who said they would vote Rach and was listing reasons to.

-N

You realize this is a misrep, right? I remember making that post,and it had nothing to do with voting Rach. I was seeing her weird Wall interaction as scummy amd something that needed looking into, because she was focused on him even though she TR him. You don't focus on a TR in a 30+ player game, at least I don't. I ignore half the game whom I TR or null read enough to not wanna lynch.

Rach was a gut SR early, especially with the original Wall interaction, but I like her later posts. TR.

See this? Thanks

pedit: I generally don't like it when people just say things are 'odd'. Especially when people are talking about voting them right before it. I believe the word for that is shade. I said you threw shade, "at some point."

-N

[Insomniacs]

Calling yourself a vanity wagon was also pretty cute. You're like, unlynchable now dude.

-N

[Insomniacs]

1. Scum dont bus D1, especially not in large games like this. Your statement in light of that alone, barring all other evidence, is absolutely ridiculous and scummy af.

Because I'm not deluded enough to think I can swing gamma into being lynched on D1. Idk how big his scum team is, but it probably is much too big to overcome even with a solid town bloc. Maybe a big or something will shoot him? Who knows. What I do know is that Siblings are town and that wagon is garbage. I know doggo disappeared after I called him out, but I did miss when he voted me so I'll go iso and check why. He called me town when I first looked into him.

Insomniacs will be sorted eventually, but if they do flip scum, there are some obvious associations.

Rach is being buddies by scum!insomniacs. I think Sly is scum with them too. Gamma and Sly are either distancing or on opposite teams, but I think it's the later at this point. That coin flip post was so scummy its unbelievable.

As for the rest, gamma is a mostly town wagon. Siblings is not. People should be sheeping Titus, rb, and ND at this point for obvious reasons.

Pedit: @Wall: that was an exaggeration obviously, but I TR Siblings and think scum from all teams are pushing it. How is that baffling? Do you SR siblings? If so, why?

In what world do you think me and gamma are scum buddies? I've been hard pushing gamma forever now, while you try shit flinging without anything to back it up, but then say ridiculous shit like 'lets stay the gamma course' as if you had any fucking thing to do with it. Don't try to take credit when others catch scum. You havent done a single thing all game long, and you're a hydra. That's doubly damning. Two useless scumsters in one scummy slot. The only reason i can think of for you to be saying this gamma + tywin shit is because you know gamma is the inevitable lynch,

so you're trying to place false associations with your scum buddy gamma

. You know who else did it? SlySly.

Oh and this 'guys look! I'm posting! These players are scum but ohhhhhh look at the time! Got to go! No time to explain any of the bullshit I spew!' is the scummiest thing ive seen all game outside of gamma's ISO, Rams' iso, and SlySlys coin flip post (which is basically his entire iso). Interestingly enough, it happened to have the exact same gamma + Tywin read as the illogical and unexplained shit you've been slinging. Gonna catch your whole scum team by myself at this rate. Onward with gamma, then insomniacs or SlySly next.

So this is the part where scum don't bus on d1, but we've been bussing Gamma since before you pushed him at all. CUTE!

[Insomniacs]

Insomniacs idk what that even means. But ok cute.

I said I think you're on opposite teams now. Originally, i thought gamma had so many votes that your scum team knew he was gonna be lynched. Due to that you jumped aboard and tried throwing out some really bad associations to see what would stick. Since you and Sly have the same extremely weird reads, I think youre buddies.

Is that hard to understand or something?

But now that there's a Vote Count I see Siblings in the lead. Since I TR Siblings and since this game is probably multiball, I can easily see one scum team (yours) going after the other scum team in gamma. It's an easy wagon for you to sheep. Sly pretended to coin flip for it while giving no reasons why. You did the same thing, while pushing me as a buddy. What doesn't work for you is that it doesnt add up at all. I pushed gamma before people really joined him. Saying you were buddies before basically meant I thought he was the leading wagon by quite a bit. He clearly isnt so I changed that opinion.

You claimed we were bussing earlier despite thinking scum would never bus d1 in a large. It's a contradiction. Just because you changed your mind after it was pointed out doesn't mean shit.

-N

[Insomniacs]

@insomniacs: are you really this dumb? Is it on purpose or what?

When I say scum don't bus D1, I mean scum don't start wagons on their buddies D1. They might JOIN an already sure lynch of their scum buddy D1, but that's not nearly the same thing. Let's stop pretending you're bad at this and dont know what I'm saying.

We are on the wagon before you but whatever. I'm done with this too.

Playing mafia makes me feel like an old man playing bridge or something with a couple of buddies. Like it really is just a time waster, so who cares who reads stuff or not? I'm all for ending the day already. Just vote someone and let's be done with it. How many aren't on a wagon still? The vanity votes need to move if those players aren't just bad scum.

Agreed here though

-n

[Insomniacs]

RB look at who is saying we are lynchable due to a LACK of activity and/or not liking us. Tywinn, after we point out Gamma and Tywinn scum.1411 Kid is still pushing a policy lynch on us. More than 25% of Kid's posts are literally Math sucks. We're intentionally trying to get people playing on board here. They aren't attacking/interacting with content. They're attacking me specifically for not being a hyper poster and being swingy. 60 pages is less than 2 pages a freaking player. This is ENTIRELY reasonable. If 2 pages of content a player for day one is too much do not play a 32 player game. Day 1 was longer in the CANCELLED game. Look at Narna and my reads. Where do you disagree? Where do you agree?
LynchPool: Gamma, Tywinn, Nero, Davesaz, Not Chara Not lynchpool: Titus, RachMarie (MetaRead), RB, SlySly

-- MathBlade

[Insomniacs]

RB

About Kid -- It isn't Kid's dislike of us that is the issue. Transcend dropped the whole "Math sucks" bit after RVS ended. The Doggo hydra is at least providing content and interacting with the thread. The problem with Kid is the majority of his ISO is filled with attacking me rather than anything substantive.

About Tywinn -- When Narna and I were catching up, he pointed out Tywinn's entrance was horrible as well as some of his vote interactions around Doggo. As for me, I was pinged by 870. He doesn't interact with anyone's concerns and just says "late game player". Eddie did the same thing in 1900 and was scum. Saying "late game player" makes me look at you closer and the slots you're mentioning. This made me look at A50 and Not Chara closer in depth. While I don't have a firm A50 read either way, Not Chara is likely scum. I don't like how he also says "Gamma is obviously scum" but at the same time says that scum can't be lynched. A lot of his posts rub me entirely the wrong way. Why do you townread Tywinn?

About SlySly --

Silence spell cast received

-- Why did you ask me for silence on the topic then make post 1498?

About Davesaz -- When Dave is town, he asks a lot of clarification questions. Take Elemental Trinity for example, he asked a lot of questions to try to understand reads. In Gistou, where I was scum with him on in a 42 player game, he stalled and asked questions that let other people talk. It looks more of the same thing here to me. I have a rule of thumb for Dave. If he asks Why you say something he's town. If he says Why is something AI/NAI or other questions about theory/getting you to talk more posts he's scum.

Vampire Master -- They're a nullread I could do if I had to. I much prefer Gamma or Tywinn though.

--Math

[Insomniacs]

Titus, really we should be getting this flip to make sure we're on the right track. I've pointed out the main reads Narna and I have. If you disagree that's where I'd want you to look in depth so we can align up.

-- Math

[Insomniacs]

I'm going to do an exercise: 10 individual people can ask me a question about my thoughts on the game. I don't want anyone asking multiple questions. You ask multiple questions, I become Alex Trebek picking things off of the list of first commercial break notes: I will pick the one that I am most interested in.

Why are you doing this instead of sorting Sly now that he is here?

[Insomniacs]

I also think it's pretty obvious why Sly would tr SQ here...

-Narna

[Insomniacs]

gahh even SQ doesn't see it. I need smokes.

[Insomniacs]

I also think it's pretty obvious why Sly would tr SQ here...

-Narna

Because
1) SQ is obvtown?
2) Sly wants SQ to redrive the Gamma wagon?
3) Something else?

Imma let Sly answer. I'm just wondering if people are paying attention. Especially people on the Sly wagon.

-Narna

[Insomniacs]

I agree with SQ here. I'm not saying there isn't a basis for the push on Sly, but the bulk of the wagon feels so lazy and reeks of saving Gamma. Especially considering Sly wasn't even there to pushback. The Gamma wagon felt way more organic, and Gamma's response to Sly's tr of SQ is silly and assumes town has no reason to tr someone who thinks their wagon reeks.

-Narna

[Insomniacs]

K but what the fuck is the basis of the gamma wagon in the first place

His inexplicable reading you you v SQ as tvt at the start of the game and then flipping on you (for "tone") when getting heckled for not having any reason to think that aside from scum

knowing

was a scumflip. He's had some other bad posts that Math highlighted. His question just now to Sly seemed insincere. He was like the third person to ask it and his response to Sly's answer was either confbias or scum trying to strongarm the lynch. The basis for me was that his early play seemed really scum motivated by buddying two players likely to post a lot while giving an "original" opinion. I don't like his response to Twin's initial push on him either (especially now that they're voting together on Slysly). It's a lot of little things.

-Narna

[Insomniacs]

...
I hate 1391 because it's really nonchalant. Also there are no scumreads outside of:

Smith: who has posted like maybe a max of 10 times
Slysly: who I think just about everyone has called a mixture of scummy and dodgy

I could be just flat out wrong here but TRing this many people is detrimental to the game state.

Ha nice try.
Slysly is obvTown. Saying everyone is a huge stretch.

This is a 32 player game. As much as I hate it a town block will happen.

--Math

Not really sure where the obvtown on slysly came from (fwiw I didn't hate 1125, which was his main content up to that point), but the "saying everyone is a huge stretch" bit is such a ticky-tack non-point that doesn't do anything useful at all. Don't much like this post.

Our primary scumreads were/are Gamma and Twin, so we really dug the end of 1125. Math also saw theatrics in those two which added to the read.

-Narna

[Insomniacs]

Lol

At least you were able to explain the case in elaborate detail.

Anyways. The tvt post seems to be the foundation and while that did ping me, I think the rest of his game is obv town.

The tvt thing and backing down on it to dodge questions is super scummy. Care to point out an obvtown post from him?

-Narna

[Insomniacs]

Our primary scumreads were/are Gamma and Twin, so we really dug the end of 1125. Math also saw theatrics in those two which added to the read.

-Narna

Honestly, the coin flip bit was the best part of 1125; the rest was super meh at best I think. Also the "saying everyone" bit was still a ticky-tack non point to bother getting into in the first place.

Ticky tacky, sure, is it scum motivated though? I am town reading Hiraki for what it's worth.

BEST FRIEND NARNA! <3

Spoiler: A LOT OF GIFS

-Ali

Bestie <3 Go make Nancy's day with that.

-Narna

[Insomniacs]

Mhsmith, why are you pointing out flaws in basically every Sly vote with him as your strongest scumread? It seems counterproductive.

-Narna

[Insomniacs]

My misrep has already been exposed!

It still seems counterproductive.

-Narna

[Insomniacs]

[quote="In post 1770, Scott and Ramona"]Ok, this is where we're at right now:

Gamma Emerald (L-9): Carnelian, Insomniacs, Master Vampire, SlySly, Siblings Quarrel, Randomidget, Hikari, Nero
Cerberus v666 (L-16) : Tarkus
Master Vampire (L-16): DanelerH
Tarkus (L-16): PeregrineV,
Scott and Ramona (L-15): Socrates, Almost50
Tywin Lannister (L-16): Ramcius,
SlySly (L-5): Chairman Doggo, Not Chara, Gamma, Not Fury, RachMarie, Wall, Davesaz, TheRealGin-N-Tonic, Tywin Lannister, Titus, rb, Scott and Ramona,



Not Voting (8): Shiro, Majiffy, ZZZX, Kidamn, Cerebrus v666, Mhsmith0,

With 32 players alive it takes 17 votes to lynch.


We've had some disagreement about the Gamma wagon, but we're both ok with the Sly wagon. Sly's read on SQ sounds fake.

VOTE: SlySly


~Ramona[//quote]

SlySly wagon is Terribad.

There was universal agreement to end the day. Gamma was the majority wagon then a SlySly wagon emerges led by my scumreads and Tywinn abandons the Gamma wagon for it? Wtf. Catching up on specific posts now.

--Matg

[Insomniacs]

VOTE: SLYSLY

LETS GO GO GO

HE WAS OBVTOWN IN SURREPTITIOUS

HE IS NOT OBVTOWN NOW

IN FACT I KINDA FOS HIM

~T

@rb -- Let me get this straight here. Gamma was the leading wagon. No other viable wagons exist. Doggo starts a wagon and then a shit ton of people from where I am at in my reread hop on with naked votes. Of which the majority are scumreads. They hop on a lurker. You ask me NOT to talk about my townread of SlySly but you don't think that this is fishy as fuck?

[Insomniacs]

Pedit: This was @Doggo, RachMarie managed to slip in.

1125 wasn't in your case post but it's not a shining example of towniness either.

I have to admit I don't have a read on your slot so I could very well be following scum, but given the likely multiball and the need to hunt both/all teams it matters not to me which team I hunt from at least in early game. It's good enough to move my vote for the moment.
VOTE: SlySly

I do owe all the catchup todo's I noted in one of my previous posts, and I'm a man of my word. I may even have some time for it tonight but don't consider that a promise.

Spoiler: @Mathblade

(don't remember which hydra you're in this time) -- I get scumread as town a lot because of the thing you pointed out, because my variable schedule results in multiple town metas. I know full well that this is stating self-meta and if you're town you should not just believe me. Paradoxically, the same questions that you think make me look town are the reason other people scumread me, in games where the questions outnumber the statements. If you're town I'm doing this to hopefully make it easier to work together. I do not have a history of reading you well so don't count on me getting that read correct btw.

Odd. You're talking to me as if you know I am Town here.
Furthermore I had you right in Civ and ET recently. I get you have to try to convince me to not scumread you but it is usually others who don't read you right. Not me. I don't believe you and this is exactly the same shit from a Gistou.

--Math
--Math

[Insomniacs]

I need to talk with Narna about 1776 if that post is sarcastic or not.

--Math

This looks exactly like saving Gamma though.

@Titus/RB please take a look at what I talked about tomorrow. SlySly wagon is literally lynch a lurker over Gamma. (SlySly as mentioned has valid reasons to lurk but he still is.) At this point I want people to see what is going on here.

Furthermore RB you said lynch smith everyone townreads you yet no one followed YOUR lynchread but people are following the SlySly wagon.

--Math

[Insomniacs]

_|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|
___|___|Math. I would love you|___|__
_|___|___|to explain why Sly|___|___|
___|___|is obviously town to you.|___|__
_|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|

And RB said no. I am trying to work on Town cohesion but in general SlySly is a lurker lynch who took a stand on Gamma and Tywinn. SlySly taking stances is Town SlySly.

--Math

[Insomniacs]

viewtopic.php?f=23&t=70295&user_select[]=8233

Recent SlySly scummeta.

Look at the difference.

--Math

[Insomniacs]

viewtopic.php?p=8844390#p8844390

That is how he catches up as scum.

Compare it to the post he posted here when he attacked Gamma and Tywinn. If SlySly takes a stance and puts time into it he is town.

Back to Gamma and end the day or sheep rb's smith vote and RB is a universal townread.

@rb why smith again? Refresh my memory?

[Insomniacs]

I would vote Gamma right now. Narna really wants Tywinn but starting a fresh wagon right now on D1 is only antitown at this point. Unless you can explain your "feels" that is the best spot.

--Math

Those that voted SlySly a wagon that was lynch a lurker better provide their reasons for not voting Gamma to end the day like townreads requested.

[Insomniacs]

Mhsmith -- Being a decent wagon is never enough for me.
Look at Civ Mafia where I begged people not to do Beeboy.

I was also asleep when it formed. I don't end days just to end days especially "just to end them".

I specifically asked RB so he could talk about you so I could assess you. You are square in my null camp right now. Furthermore a townread talking is a good thing.

I think that is SHOULD be more natural to sheep a universal townread rather than someone who isn't. Yet people are ignoring the wagon proposed by RB creating a wagon out of nothing on Sly. So they are directly going AGAINST their townreads wishes and against the most popular wagon to a case of "I FoS the guy" So I find the wagon bad yes.

--Math

[Insomniacs]

Furthermore I want to hear explicitly from Doggo and Not Chara why SlySly was better than Gamma at that point in time.

--Math

Titus what do you make of this?

[Insomniacs]

I dont feel gamma scum rn

idk, i srsly am gonna leave rn - ill vote whoever u choose atm

Who is ignoring rb Math? You're pushing Gamma. He doesn't want it.

Everyone not talking about smith or stating their reads on him.

RB universal townread says "do Smith"
Doggo not universal townread says "do Sly"
No one responds to RB's "do Smith" request and spam votes Sly.

--Math

[Insomniacs]

Furthermore I want to hear explicitly from Doggo and Not Chara why SlySly was better than Gamma at that point in time.

--Math

Titus what do you make of this?

You should vote SlySly or defend him. The things you want have been done.

I did defend him. People should be voting Gamma. I explained how his town catchups are and his scum catchups.

--Math

[Insomniacs]

Hi MariaR.

What he has contributed is pretty much like his town games, he crumbed his flavor before you asked so I would really rather NOT lynch SlySly. I would rather myself be lynched than SlySly.

--Math

[Insomniacs]

Greetings friends and new friends Give me 3 Isos to read thank you very much ^_^

Gamma/Tywinn/Smith

--Math

[Insomniacs]

Hi MariaR.

What he has contributed is pretty much like his town games, he crumbed his flavor before you asked so I would really rather NOT lynch SlySly. I would rather myself be lynched than SlySly.

--Math

Math is probably town, regardless of read accuracy.

Why do you think the Sly wagon started and Doggo is not universally townread. Narna and I have him on a no lynch list today but he is only a light TR for Narna. SlySly should not be a thing. At all.

--Math

Gonna quit posting now so I don't get hyperactive.

[Insomniacs]

Time for vanity wagons is over m8

Hi MariaR.

What he has contributed is pretty much like his town games, he crumbed his flavor before you asked so I would really rather NOT lynch SlySly. I would rather myself be lynched than SlySly.

--Math

Vote: Insomniacs

Did you suffer a stroke m8?

VOTE: Tywin Still willing to go Gamma, but a man can dream.

-Narna

[Insomniacs]

It's all in my first post.

Faye Valetine
Ein
Ed
Spiegel
Black

Damn it.

Dumb shit like this happens when people just do what they are asked. Now scum will claim those flavors and try to eliminate those roles.

x100

[Insomniacs]

im dumb af and never watched CoyBoy BeBoy but even i picked up those crumbs math :/

scum probably are keeping track tbh

I haven't either but not outing clear crumb derpitude as much as possible is the right play.
I said SlySly crumbed flavor and I maintain that but I am not outing what is PAINFULLY obvious either because sometimes scum miss it.

--Math

[Insomniacs]

Ok, this is where we're at right now:

Gamma Emerald (L-9): Carnelian, Insomniacs, Master Vampire, SlySly, Siblings Quarrel, Randomidget, Hikari, Nero
Cerberus v666 (L-16) : Tarkus
Master Vampire (L-16): DanelerH
Tarkus (L-16): PeregrineV,
Scott and Ramona (L-15): Socrates, Almost50
Tywin Lannister (L-16): Ramcius,
SlySly (L-5): Chairman Doggo, Not Chara, Gamma, Not Fury, RachMarie, Wall, Davesaz, TheRealGin-N-Tonic, Tywin Lannister, Titus, rb, Scott and Ramona,



Not Voting (8): Shiro, Majiffy, ZZZX, Kidamn, Cerebrus v666, Mhsmith0,

With 32 players alive it takes 17 votes to lynch.


We've had some disagreement about the Gamma wagon, but we're both ok with the Sly wagon. Sly's read on SQ sounds fake.

VOTE: SlySly


~Ramona[//quote]

SlySly wagon is Terribad.

There was universal agreement to end the day. Gamma was the majority wagon then a SlySly wagon emerges led by my scumreads and Tywinn abandons the Gamma wagon for it? Wtf. Catching up on specific posts now.

--Matg

She's talking about in our PT.

- Scott

I don't have a PT with you and I am not a she.

--Math

[Insomniacs]

I will actively campaign against a SlySly wagon as much as the rules from Firebringer allow.

Do NOT LYNCH SLY SLY

--Math

[Insomniacs]

Dumb shit like this happens when people just do what they are asked. Now scum will claim those flavors and try to eliminate those roles.

Why couldn't scum just do this outside of the game?

If Titus is town, this is also Titus' opinion that these will flip town based on flavor, no?

Correct but now scum can claim that flavor draw out a CC or scum can CC that flavor and we're in a wasteful clusterfuck.

--Math

[Insomniacs]

how do we know that scum aren't crumbing a fakeclaim they have zzz

.....He just isn't. Can't say more without outing it sorry.

--Math

[Insomniacs]

Why is the day phase still going if we have lynched Gamma?

We haven't.

Stupid as fuck SlySly wagon was started to "save Gamma". Now Titus deems it an impossibility so now not only will a lynch on my and Narna's top scumread not happen Tywinn likely isn't a thing all because scum spammed a stupid as fuck wagon to give it credibility and people want to end the day.

I am stuck in the position of asshole...,AGAIN!

--Math

[Insomniacs]

Would you still be town reading Sly if you never played with him before and without the crumbs, Insomniacs?

- Scott

I don't know. That requires me to not know what I know.

However on general principle I don't like lurker lynches on D1. So I think I would have the same reaction just not as strongly.

--Math

[Insomniacs]

_|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|
___|___|Lurker lynching on D1|___|__
_|___|is fine. Making artificial|___|
___|___|resistance to a lurker|___|__
_|___|wagon on a large D1 is not.|___|
___|___|If you think SlySly is|___|__
_|___|town, then push that. I'm|___|
___|___|planning on diving the|___|__
_|___|games you linked when I get|___|
___|___|home tonight. Instead of|___|__
_|___|just saying "DONT LYNCH DONT|___|
___|___|LYNCH" over and over and over|___|__
_|___|ACTUALLY PUSH YOUR POINTS. K?|___|
___|___|Otherwise you're making|___|__
_|___|noise for literally no fucking|___|
___|___|___|___|reason.|___|___|___|__
_|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|

I have been stating points:

1) SlySly did Town catchups.
2) SlySly crumbed something.
3) The wagon speed and timing is utter crap.
4) Because he is only pushed for being a lurker.

--Math

[Insomniacs]

Read the thread:
@Scott
I posted a Town versus scum catch-up of SlySly's.
Why do you think SlySly is being wagoned? All I see is Doggo posting "I FoS SlySly" and sheeping.

@Wall
Wall what do you think I am doing?

--Math

@Scott
I found a reference to an episode. Hei sui is ALL I will say on that.

[Insomniacs]

_|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|
___|___|Lurker lynching on D1|___|__
_|___|is fine. Making artificial|___|
___|___|resistance to a lurker|___|__
_|___|wagon on a large D1 is not.|___|
___|___|If you think SlySly is|___|__
_|___|town, then push that. I'm|___|
___|___|planning on diving the|___|__
_|___|games you linked when I get|___|
___|___|home tonight. Instead of|___|__
_|___|just saying "DONT LYNCH DONT|___|
___|___|LYNCH" over and over and over|___|__
_|___|ACTUALLY PUSH YOUR POINTS. K?|___|
___|___|Otherwise you're making|___|__
_|___|noise for literally no fucking|___|
___|___|___|___|reason.|___|___|___|__
_|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|

I have been stating points:

1) SlySly did Town catchups.
2) SlySly crumbed something.
3) The wagon speed and timing is utter crap.
4) Because he is only pushed for being a lurker.

--Math

Well then vote gamma. Idk what he crumbed but I'll check later. I think you're all scum though. Doesn't matter to me who goes first, but I will lol for real if all my top SRs really are scum. Based on how the last game apparently played out and probable multiball, it's not bad odds either.

But I'm good with lynching gamma as the better bet. There's a slight chance you're town, and it's because I think you saw into something I said.

I am great with letting you bus Gamma. However Titus isn't and unless a wagon is Titus approved then she will fight it. If she fights it it doesn't happen. Scum will just listen to Titus keep pushing SlySly for stupid reasons so my main focus is on saving SlySly. Gamma would be an amazing lynch but if anything SlySly cannot be lynched.

--Math

[Insomniacs]

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

Titus please don't vote SlySly...Like literally anywhere else is better to me.
I will talk with Narna but I hope this happens.

[Insomniacs]

Alisae is obv scum as fuck

I was thinking the same thing honestly. Maybe neutral killing.

Why? He is a TR of mine.

--Math

[Insomniacs]

I don't SR Cerb Titus.

--Math

[Insomniacs]

What's the biggest wagon right now?

Gamma.

--Math

[Insomniacs]

(8) chair, not chara, Gamma, NF, Rach, Wall, Dave, Gin (L-9)


Also gamma is a double voter with for me toDay
VOTE: Sly

People have been coming onto Gamma Gin. Misrep is bad and people are leaving SlySly.

--Math

[Insomniacs]

Alisae is obv scum as fuck

I was thinking the same thing honestly. Maybe neutral killing.

Why? He is a TR of mine.

--Math

Why do you town read him? At best, he's been a

town lean

. Never a town read.

Spoiler:

So wait.
Let me get this straight.
Doggo litterally said "Slysly is scum because they aren't obvtowning"
And Sly got flash wagoned...

Guys, I smell an attempt to save Gamma.
-Ali

And we could say the Not Fury wagon was an attempt to save YOU.

This post litterally makes no sense if you townread me.
-Ali

Wall it's nothing I really feel confident in at the moment mostly due to the fact it's completely reliant on Gamma's flip.
Like, yeah, I know I'm kinda posturing here, and I know Frog might end up talking some sense into me if he disagres, but like, I just hate this sudden SlySly push.
-Ali

It's just posts like these which are full of pressure and seem overly manipulative. Maybe that is just Alisae, but I'm never giving this slot a strong town read. I've seen enough this game. Strong scum lean for SQ.

Alisae wouldn't say something he did unless jehrhdkshebdisvajs foamshelsbsksngso

Sorry error in translation. Gonna go with "gut" since that is safe to say.

--Math

[Insomniacs]

(8) chair, not chara, Gamma, NF, Rach, Wall, Dave, Gin (L-9)


Also gamma is a double voter with for me toDay
VOTE: Sly

People have been coming onto Gamma Gin. Misrep is bad and people are leaving SlySly.

--Math

I'm not sure I understand what you're saying

Can't just use the VC. You have to count the votes after it.

--Math

[Insomniacs]

Someone who isn't me as I am busy do a VC.
While I scumread Gamma the proper play is to announce L-1 and claim.

--Math

[Insomniacs]

Pretty sure the Gamma wagon is going to be most everyone suspected in the thread + Insominacs.

You mean most everyone townread except Tywinn.

At least it won't be SlySly.

--Math

[Insomniacs]

.......how

whatever

Tranny is a derogatory word for transsexuals.

Anyone in the Transgender community actually.
Please do not use this word. As someone in that community I find it offensive.

--Math

[Insomniacs]

Can you shoot SlySly gamma after he claims flavor if not on my list?

Certainly.

First of all no.
Second of all Gamma is scum.
Third of all Frozen experiments with weird power combinations.
Fourth I feel like my head is hitting a brick wall.

--Math

[Insomniacs]

i really could care less

Narna will have to hold me back from policying your ass into next week.
Far as I am concerned if you aren't going to show respect for me as a human being you are trying to piss me off and hyper post and if you are Town that is despicable.

--Math

Fyi reported

[Insomniacs]

Claiming now
I am a Vigilante. I have the ability to kill at night or day, but the dayvig is one shot. I have infinite night uses.
When I checked my flavor it said that my character was a bad shot so I had to check the rules to see if they were bastard, since if they were I'd expect to be a blank vig.

So. Let's be clear here. Are you shooting blank shots or not?

In not blank, since the game is confirmed not bastard.

This claim I feel is crap.

--Math

Just have Gamma dayvig now and if he doesn't then lynch him. If he does he is telling the truth.

[Insomniacs]

Claiming now
I am a Vigilante. I have the ability to kill at night or day, but the dayvig is one shot. I have infinite night uses.
When I checked my flavor it said that my character was a bad shot so I had to check the rules to see if they were bastard, since if they were I'd expect to be a blank vig.

So. Let's be clear here. Are you shooting blank shots or not?

In not blank, since the game is confirmed not bastard.

This claim I feel is crap.

--Math

Just have Gamma dayvig now and if he doesn't then lynch him. If he does he is telling the truth.

Absolutely not. There's a process here. He could shoot Gamma given the claim, but I'd rather shoot something that's more useful to the collective.

Shooting SlySly I swear is the dumbest thing that could ever be done and if SlySly is offline I will do my best to out his crumbs if that is what is decided but NO shooting SlySly the vig isn't real pick someone valuable to the collective fine. But not SlySly. Pick me over SlySly.

[Insomniacs]

Gamma can kill me and I flip Town and y'all realize I was a threat to scum.

Or Gamma is lying

OR Gamma shoots Tywinn.

That is what I prefer.

Obviously haven't talked about this with Narna.

--Math

[Insomniacs]

Gamma can kill me and I flip Town and y'all realize I was a threat to scum.

Or Gamma is lying

OR Gamma shoots Tywinn.

That is what I prefer.

Obviously haven't talked about this with Narna.

--Math

Shooting you is terrible. Shooting you would just mean that obvtown was annoyed with you, not that you were a threat.

At this point I am stepping out of the damn thread as one of Narna's things he said to work on is AtE and I want to rope Doggo because of their asshatery and I am pretty sure Giga didn't say that as Giga wouldn't approve that.

*snarls*

You have the group reads you know where I stand.

--Math

[Insomniacs]

Claiming now
I am a Vigilante. I have the ability to kill at night or day, but the dayvig is one shot. I have infinite night uses.
When I checked my flavor it said that my character was a bad shot so I had to check the rules to see if they were bastard, since if they were I'd expect to be a blank vig.

So. Let's be clear here. Are you shooting blank shots or not?

In not blank, since the game is confirmed not bastard.

This claim I feel is crap.

--Math

Just have Gamma dayvig now and if he doesn't then lynch him. If he does he is telling the truth.

Absolutely not. There's a process here. He could shoot Gamma given the claim, but I'd rather shoot something that's more useful to the collective.

Shooting SlySly I swear is the dumbest thing that could ever be done and if SlySly is offline I will do my best to out his crumbs if that is what is decided but NO shooting SlySly the vig isn't real pick someone valuable to the collective fine. But not SlySly. Pick me over SlySly.

Did you just say I wasn't real
I'm no idiot. I know claiming Day actions you don't have is tantamount to suicide. You'd have to be insulting my skill level to believe what you just said.

You're already at L-1 at the time of the claim. Claiming day actions like that isn't suicidal.

[Insomniacs]

At least let me claim the crumbs I believe I saw if Town decides to shoot SlySly.

[Insomniacs]

Yo insom
Do you have a pick for the dayvig or not

Tywinn

--Math

I want you but Tywinn is our next scumread.

[Insomniacs]

@Titus Cerb. However Narna hasn't given me a read on him yet.

We only put people in no lynch pile we agreed on.

RachMarie is the one we agree on.

--Math

[Insomniacs]

SlySly is still Town by meta and his crumbs but wow.

--Math

I can't believe how frustrating this game got.
Your opinion of my worth being less than yours is not an apology Transcend but I will quit talking about it as I don't want this game toxic.

[Insomniacs]

Considering shooting Nero

Fine by me and Narna. He is in our lynch poolX

--Math

[Insomniacs]

Fine by me and Narna. He is in our lynch poolX

Why?

Because you're sketchy as fuck.

And now Gamma trades mass claim for his fucking life.

Excuse me while I cry into a tub of ice cream.

--Math

[Insomniacs]

stop fishing you turds

Fishes all game.

Doesn't post reads.
Agreed with practically everything.

That is about as much energy as I can spare to this game because my give a fucks went to a whole 0.

--Math

[Insomniacs]

Gamma why aren't you threatening to shoot Tywinn who was obv scum to you?

--Math

[Insomniacs]

Gamma why aren't you threatening to shoot Tywinn who was obv scum to you?

--Math

___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|__
_|___|___|Gamma is probably not|___|___|
___|___|___|scum by occam's.|___|___|__
_|___|___|You need to relax.|___|___|
___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|__

Occam's Razor flipped scum in In Memory. I care about facts. Not what is easy. If scum force mass claim then suiciding one person is worth it. Gamma why aren't you pushing Tywinn?

[Insomniacs]

Because I want him to claim first and he's not here.

So we wait until he is.

No reason for people to roleclaim before him.

--Math

[Insomniacs]

By getting others to claim who you by your own words can't day vig is negative EV. We can wait.

--Math

[Insomniacs]

protip:

in memory is not this game

thisgame is real folk blues

aka a whole new game

It was a funny way of being cute saying Occam's Razor isn't always right so poke every rock.

--Math

[Insomniacs]

___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|__
_|___|Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.|___|
___|I think this is when I start joking|__
_|___|about Gamma shooting me. :')|___|
___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|__

___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|__
_|___|All of the people Gamma has|___|
___|forced to claim are questionable|___|__
_|___|and I'm pretty sure you've also|___|
___|expressed willingness to lynch|___|__
_|___|some of them. How that turns|___|
___|into "GAMMA IS FORCING MASSCLAIM"|__
_|___|when it was literally me|___|
___|___|suggesting it that got|___|__
_|___|him asking for claims before|___|
___|___|taking a shot, not his|___|__
_|___|___|own idea. Like. Cmon?|___|___|
___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|__

Because it is. If Gamma was Town he would have said to his top scumread to claim. Your suggestion would be fundamentally irrelevant. He is taking advantage of it but he is the one forcing mass claim by real/fake pointing a gun to someone's head and saying claim.

Now we wait for Tywinn so we stop the damn bleeding.

--Math

[Insomniacs]

___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|__
_|___|I don't think you learned|___|___|
___|___|anything from Civ. Srsly.|___|__
_|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|

Glares

You don't want to see it.

I am trying to work with others.
I am following the Titus doc.
I am collaborating with Narna.
However I think Gamma is full of shit and doing bad Town things.
Mass claim in exchange for one scum is a good deal.
Stop the bleeding shoot Tywinn which Gamma should agree to and if not why.

Then move on. If he can't shoot he was making people mass claim and needs rope.

Fucking simple.

--Math

[Insomniacs]

Good deal for scum*

[Insomniacs]

cerberus and nero were scum butts and i was not perturbed with either of them claiming

Gamma going "yeah Nero is scum!" and you and Math all the sudden going "oh yeah he is" doesn't fill me with great vibes. Sorry not sorry.

Stuff your vibes.

You were on our lynch pool list a while ago. Not sudden at all. Shit like this makes you scum.

--Math

[Insomniacs]

My guess is she serves alcohol then interrogates the person

Wait, that's what I do. Teehehehe. (Joke about Titus as a person)

Bud light please.

Seriously. There isn't enough alcohol to make this thread make sense.
Gamma tunnels Tywinn yet he is notably absent from his list of suspects.

I need something to help comprehension.

--Math

Narna is reading for those who care.

[Insomniacs]

holy fuck, i've never voiced my opinion but

Gamma Emerald (L-6): Carnelian, Master Vampire, SlySly, randomidget, Hiraki, Nero Cain, PeregrineV, Tywin Lannister, Insomniacs, TheRealGin-N-Tonics, Not Fury

this is fucking terrible wagon construction.

personally I find more issue with the fact that people are hopping off of slysly onto this when literally nothing has changed in respect to the slysly slot.
~nos

And how the SlySly wagon was literally to save Gamma.

--Math

And then people started mass claiming because the scumread scumster said claim or die.

[Insomniacs]

Smith

Who is totally viggable Gamma (after sorting Tywin). Shitting up your own wagon to explain a townread on someone with zero threat of being lynched is baffling.

-Narna

[Insomniacs]

Hot damn

*popcorn*

Share doggo? VOTE: Nero

-Narna

[Insomniacs]

nero cain or cerberus my dude

would actually love some more nero pressure imo

if nero flips scum, then slysly is too

this is your daily reminder

She said whilst voting neither of them. Why is this being tr again?

-Narna

[Insomniacs]

I thought that was a trap or something. I'm kinda disheartened now.

-Narna

[Insomniacs]

Tell me why that isn't Tywin right this second space coyboy.

[Insomniacs]

Hype tho

-Narna
-Narna

[Insomniacs]

Spoiler: Phoenix Wright

He didn't role claim.

--Math

[Insomniacs]

___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|__
_|___|Get a fucking grip Math.|___|___|
___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|__

That was Narna actually questioning why it wasn't Tywinn.

--Math

[Insomniacs]

___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|__
_|___|Get a fucking grip Math.|___|___|
___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|__

Tell me why that isn't Tywin right this second space coyboy.

Who fucking cares

Nero was junk

My lord guys.

Hype tho

-Narna
-Narna

-Narna

[Insomniacs]

___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|__
_|___|___|___|___|Bah.|___|___|___|___|
___|___|___|___|ok sorry.|___|___|___|__
_|___|*Get a fucking grip Narna.|___|___|
___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|__

Don't make me hop you

pedit: I still want to be sure on Gamma. If it's multiball the shot doesn't necessarily clear. It can't hurt to ask.

-Narna

[Insomniacs]

Spoiler: Phoenix Wright

He didn't role claim.

--Math

Your honor the court presents evidence Nero is not posting and Tywinn is not posting.
Therefore Gamma's excuse is not valid.

Gamma also did not get a role claim out of Nero.

We present to your honor that Gamma is likely scum whether that vig is real or not.

--Math

And as scum I have vigged scum so it is literally immaterial to Gamma's alignment what Nero is. I scumread Nero but Shooting that illprepared after screaming Tywinn scum is bad.

[Insomniacs]

Daykills end days usually.

--Math

[Insomniacs]

viewtopic.php?p=8731121#p8731121

They do.

--Math

From when I was Town dayvig.

[Insomniacs]

Git fukt Nero

Spoiler:

[Insomniacs]

What made Smith talk about a role cop existing again?

-Narna
-Narna

[Insomniacs]

Was that smith? I'm sorta down to vote Sly, but waiting for Math.

-Narna

[Insomniacs]

Git fukt Nero

_|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|
___|___|YAH GET FUCKED PERSON I|___|__
_|___|WAS JUST DEFENDING SUPER HARD|___|
___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|__

By voting him and having him in our scumpool well before that? Sure thing bud. How/why was I defending Nero after he got vigged? I was just sorting Gamma because lolmultiwall.

-Narna

[Insomniacs]

My bad friend. I was going to ask if it was you actually, but got pedit'd to the answer

-Narna

[Insomniacs]

Git fukt Nero

_|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|
___|___|YAH GET FUCKED PERSON I|___|__
_|___|WAS JUST DEFENDING SUPER HARD|___|
___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|__

Seriously, what a scummy fucking post.

-Narna again

[Insomniacs]

Seriously, what a scummy fucking post.

___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|__
_|___|How is it scummy to call you|___|
___|___|___|___|bad?|___|___|___|___|__
_|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|

Because you misrepped us and threw shade to hopefully have people overlook the fact you were openly scumreading him while letting your vote go stale on that shitty little Scott wagon when a wagon was forming on Nero. I asked Gamma to explain why he shot Nero. That is in no way defending him.

VOTE: Slysly Math doesn't want it, but I see Nero's jumping of the wagon as quite telling like you guys. Make sure Sly can claim though

-Narna

[Insomniacs]

Actually, I think voting Tywin might be better in the long run since I expect him to be scum opposed with SlySly
VOTE: Tywin Lannister

To elaborate, I want scumflip son both sides ASAP. Since the common thread is Sly and Nero are teamed, I want to lynch Tywin since I believe he is on the opposite team of SlySly.

VOTE: Tywin A man can still dream though. I'm kinda cool with either lynch still. Make sure Slysly can claim though.

[Insomniacs]

You're already almost conf Town wall

___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|__
_|___|I KNOW I MOSTLY JUST WANT|___|
___|___|TO MAKE NARNA FEEL BAD|___|__
_|___|FOR THEIR READ ON ME BECAUSE|___|
___|___|I'M A TRASH HUMAN BEING|___|__
_|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|

Townies can make scummy posts too, but my thoughts are currently clouded by hurt feelings. You win, I don't know what's up from down.

-a very sad narna

[Insomniacs]

but he's conf scum according to the prophecy

Pardon?

#1548 is the gospel.

[Insomniacs]

Man, I see my sarcasm game hasn't improved since Wake's massive sk claim in lylo. It's seriously fine wall, keep on doing what you're doing.

-Narna

[Insomniacs]

Quit tweaking guys, just wait for the claim. The game started a week ago. We'll find a lynch the day slysly claims. @NF we joined the Nero counterwagon instead of lynching Sly after Gamma claimed. Stretching our neck out for an afk whatever Sly is (possible town pr, lurksack) verses our own role copping godfather in Nero (who tends to be a strong player) would be a pretty bad bus.

-Narna

[Insomniacs]

___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|__
_|___|___|P-Edit: You made me|___|___|
___|___|feel bad for nothing.|___|__
_|___|___|You GOD DAMN NERD.|___|___|
___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|__

You're already almost conf Town wall

___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|__
_|___|I KNOW I MOSTLY JUST WANT|___|
___|___|TO MAKE

NARNA

Wall FEEL BAD|___|__
_|___|FOR THEIR READ ON ME BECAUSE|___|
___|___|I'M A TRASH HUMAN BEING|___|__
_|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|

NERRRD

NO

[Insomniacs]

I want a claim, just take a break from the thread. We can lynch him tonight if he no shows. I'm not trying to bog the thread down with this discussion. So, sure waiting is

scumclaiming

. You just caught tons of people along with the vig.

SlySly 10 (Commie Doggo, Socrates, Smith, Titus, Master Vampire, Not Fury, Rach Marie, Scott and Ramona, rb, Ramcius) L-6

-Narna

[Insomniacs]

Sacrifices must be made in larges. Nero hopping off the Sly wagon and onto Gamma for no reason looks pretty bad. Math's still confident he is town, so I have no problem waiting for a claim.

[Insomniacs]

Errr yeah

Aren't they only confident they're town due to flavor crumbing? When Nero gave a fake claim aka scum have fake claims?

They've stated some other things in our iso. Lynching Gamma before his claim would have been disastrous. It really can't hurt to wait just a tiny bit longer as long as we don't go along shitting up the thread with things we've already talked about and venting frustration.

[Insomniacs]

flavour's actually really important in this setup, as frozen made it that way

that's why i'm spending most of my time trying to add flavour to things

reminder: FLAVOR IS IMPORTANT GUYS BUT WAITING FOR IT IS SCUMCLAIMING. Goodnight friends, don't go posting too hard you rascals.

-Narna

[Insomniacs]

What is SlySly at?

--Math

[Insomniacs]

I just woke up, there is a shit ton of pages, I am trying to save someone I believe to be one of the best PRs in the game, everyone is saying waiting is scumclaiming but SlySly distinctly mentioned IRL. You should know where SlySly is to see if someone derp/naked hammers.

--Math

So what is he at???!

[Insomniacs]

note to self

Math doesn't like (or get) jokes

-Ribbit

I have trouble getting them yes and my humor coroutine isn't exactly on at the moment when I am focused on this wagon. What is he at?

--Math

[Insomniacs]

In other related news Davesaz is still scum.

--Math

[Insomniacs]

In other related news Davesaz is still scum.

--Math

Yup. SlySly or Master, pick one?

Master

VOTE: MasterVampire

[Insomniacs]

In other related news Davesaz is still scum.

--Math

Yup. SlySly or Master, pick one?

Master

VOTE: MasterVampire

--Math

[Insomniacs]

In other related news Davesaz is still scum.

--Math

Yup. SlySly or Master, pick one?

Master

VOTE: MasterVampire

Ewww actually neither.

Just saw something pingy from Not Chara.

VOTE: Unvote

--Math

[Insomniacs]

VOTE: SlySly
that's two players pocketed. let's keep going.

don't find smith scum. Insomniacs aren't teamed with Nero.
VOTE: Vampire Master
Sly can claim first, but i'm lynching him anyway, probably.

and Gamma is really likely not scum, but i think everyone has agreed on that.

Why are you agreeing with every popular wagon that pops up? Also why are you happy about players being pocketed? This feels like you can't get a mislynch on Sly so moving onto whoever Titus says next without thought behind it. Talk with me some and show me the thought behind it.

--Math

[Insomniacs]

What do you do if Sly never claims, and suddenly Nos is the bigger wagon?

if Sly doesn't post for the rest of the day, we lynch him. i won't cry if Vampire goes either. i'm not worried about Sly falling through the cracks, i just don't like doing nothing while we wait for someone to claim.

Doing nothing is sometimes the best thing Town can do.
By the looks of this thread I don't think anyone gets that.

--Math

[Insomniacs]

Prod this Sly dad please and ty

-Narna

[Insomniacs]

It's not role madness.

It's not declared role madness, which means it could be, and I have yet to see a vanilla claim. Regardless, it's probably role heavy. I don't recall the ratio in the previous incarnation, though I do recall seeing vanilla flips there.

Meh probably rolemadness given gf and rolecop were in the same card. I might the closest thing to a vt.

.....
Stop talking about this go have a snack.

@Thread PLEASE WAIT FOR SLY CLAIM OR REPLACEMENT!!!!

--Math

[Insomniacs]

In other related news Davesaz is still scum.

--Math

I'm at the bottom of 101, needing to start back at 96 from my last marker post, with an end of thread at 107. I might just skip and only go back if there are specific things I need to see.

In related news, Math is still terrible at recognizing that people are different from game to game as the same alignment. Fully caught up and engaged in the moment Dave is a completely different person than behind by more than 10 pages (and skipped a bunch of stuff in the middle) in a likely multiball and definitely role madness game Dave.

In related news, Dave is trying to say I am terrible when I haven't misread Dave since before Gistou if ever.

--Math

[Insomniacs]

It's not role madness.

It's not declared role madness, which means it could be, and I have yet to see a vanilla claim. Regardless, it's probably role heavy. I don't recall the ratio in the previous incarnation, though I do recall seeing vanilla flips there.

Meh probably rolemadness given gf and rolecop were in the same card. I might the closest thing to a vt.

.....
Stop talking about this go have a snack.

@Thread PLEASE WAIT FOR SLY CLAIM OR REPLACEMENT!!!!

--Math

I has plan. Please chill.

~Titus

Better be one large ass fridge of chill because I feel like I am really sticking my neck out here.

--Math

[Insomniacs]

It's not role madness.

It's not declared role madness, which means it could be, and I have yet to see a vanilla claim. Regardless, it's probably role heavy. I don't recall the ratio in the previous incarnation, though I do recall seeing vanilla flips there.

Meh probably rolemadness given gf and rolecop were in the same card. I might the closest thing to a vt.

.....
Stop talking about this go have a snack.

@Thread PLEASE WAIT FOR SLY CLAIM OR REPLACEMENT!!!!

--Math

I has plan. Please chill.

~Titus

Better be one large ass fridge of chill because I feel like I am really sticking my neck out here.

--Math

Math don't be stretch man on my behalf. :-p *hug* This game will be frustrating.

No. Shit.

*sigh*

--Math

@mod: VC Please!!!!

[Insomniacs]

I'm like 30 pages behind, but it's still D1 somehow after 100 pages. People should have their reads down by now. I just see sly is the wagon, which I'm good with. Insomniacs next. Idk vote count but idc either. This day needs to end.

VOTE: SlySly

If we EVER die and Tywinn is still alive lynch him with all due haste.

And for the love of all that is holy why did you vote without a claim.

Scum are spamming the shit out of this game and it has turned me somewhat apathetic even.

Now I am going to do an unofficial VC here because we need it since y'all aren't fucking waiting on him to get online or be replaced.

--Math

[Insomniacs]

UNOFFICIAL Vote Count 1.14

Sly Sly (L-3): Socrates, Titus, Master Vampire, Not Fury (2442 is a duplicate), Rach Marie, Scott and Ramona, rb, Ramicus, Gamma Emerald, randomiget, Siblings Quarrel, The Real Gin-N-Tonic, Tywinn Lannister
Master Vampire(L-15): Chariman Doggo


Not Voting (3,000,000): The Three Million Players who aren't voting. One of whom is Insomniacs because this Sly Sly wagon is CRAP.

With 31 players alive it takes 16 votes to lynch.

Day 1 ends in (expired on 2017-05-18 21:10:00)

Note: Peoples have requested replacement. PLEASE PROD INACTIVE PLAYERS.

[Insomniacs]

You're actually not voting either Cerb. If I can count.

VC got reset after the Nero death.

-- Math

[Insomniacs]

UNOFFICIAL Vote Count 1.14

Sly

Sly (L-2): Socrates, Titus, Master Vampire, Not Fury (2442 is a duplicate), Rach Marie, Scott and Ramona, rb, Ramicus, randomiget, Siblings Quarrel, The Real Gin-N-Tonic, Tywinn Lannister ,davesaz, Cerberus (sorry!)

Master Vampire(L-15): Chariman Doggo


Not Voting (3,000,000): The Three Million Players who aren't voting. One of whom is Insomniacs because this Sly Sly wagon is CRAP.

With 31 players alive it takes 16 votes to lynch.

Day 1 ends in (expired on 2017-05-18 21:10:00)

Note: Peoples have requested replacement. PLEASE PROD INACTIVE PLAYERS.

[Insomniacs]

I will vote Slysly in the effort that I'm just flat out wrong and one mislynch will not hurt us.

I

hate

doing this but for the

game

[/u] to survive, it is needed.

(im also not voting because I never got that VC and im with gamma on waiting)

WTF THE VC IS RIGHT ABOVE YOU.

The game will STILL BE A CLUSTERFUCK.

And all we will have done is lynch a likely PR.

Wait for the goddamn claim. WE DO NOT HAVE TO POST A MILE A MINUTE.

THE GAME CAN SLOW DOWN AND WAIT AND LET FB DO PRODS.

--PISSED OFF MATH

[Insomniacs]

Spoiler: SLY posts with scum hunting

SlySly - Wall is cool and all and I certainly am delighted by his persona and have said so.

but why are your only real contributions to the thread about this persona?

After happy hour and wine later, reading Wall made me envision him dreaming about Wall posts for months and being in meetings at work thinking of ways to top his own greatness. It's a self imposed flogging. It's still making me laugh.

My first post about Not Fury was a real contribution. One word, pineapples.

well your tywin vote was junk and your 750 was even more junk

like how fucking hard can you reach bro that was terrible

as much as i need to lynch scums, but if you think "he's obv town, cause he complains for 30 pages to read" is a pro town play, it's your right, but your reads are much more reachy than mine

I was in Timeshifters and I agree with Ram. Tywin's signature scum bloating is hard to miss. When Tywin posts more than 2 lines, I immediately ignore.

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I read my predecessor before joining games to make sure I have a clean slate but nice try

This sounds like fear of exposing your true scum self.

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and you just admitted that your reads were reachy too

This sounds like you're admitting yours are.

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Nachos and wine = mighty fine!

Remember that time we did laundry with nacho and had wine

-Ribbit

It is unforgettable!

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Because I'm a deeply introspective special child.

An Innocent Child? Andrius, is that you?!

Pedit 2: oh u Rach. Oh. U. I'm about as coachable as Tim Tebow

Nope, not Andrius. I invited him. He said he was too busy, I was hoping he lied and was incognito.

Hmmm, there is that Wall.

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THIS GAME IS VERY FLAVOUR INTENSIVE, ITS IMPORTANT

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Wow, you completely ignored the quoted text and did more defensive stuff. Everyone else here thinks I'm shit though, so fuck it. What's the biggest wagon?

VOTE: Gamma

Sorry for trying.

Gamma v Tywin is striking me as a Greyhound Lines commercial

They are voting each other. Both have been throwing votes around to see what sticks.

Ram's on Tywim, Not Fury's on Gamma. I have TR on Ram and NF.

I'm good with either of these.

Gamma
Tywin

Heads = Gamma
Tails = Tywin



VOTE: Gamma

I see some complaining about my post count. Just a little update about the life of Sly for the uninformed.

I'm a single dad.
I have 2 kids, 1 has autism.
I have a full time job.
I have a gf and we go do stuff.
This weekend, I had company. I have a date tomorrow and more company is coming Tuesday.

This game is a 32 player game that is expected to be a post explosion game, and it has been, but I've actually been in games that were moving faster than this one. I have read the entire game. I have not reviewed what I have read, nor have I iso'd anyone. When I'm reading, the things people I'm familiar with stand out to me more than those I'm not familiar with. Then there's hydra's with people I've played with, but I don't realize it's them until the game gets rolling. Then we have the incognito player(s), i.e. The Wall. And there's PerV. Has he even posted? He always seems to be invisible until around D4.

I haven't reviewed those jumping on to my wagon and why yet, but at the moment, these are the closest things I have to reads.

Obvtown: SQ
Probtown: Not Fury, Ram
Scum: Gamma, Tywin

You're literally saying sly because some random person picked them for not being able to keep out with the level of activity. STOP IT.

SLY SLY has taken concrete stances on things. Are you actually going to interact with those stances or are you just going to say "HERP HERP NOT POSTING ENOUGH". Because lynching someone because they have a life is atrocious.

-- Math

[Insomniacs]

UNVOTE: SlySly

I cannot justify leaving SlySly hammer open with Math trying this hard to be cooperative town, and we need SlySly's claim.

Thank you.
*sigh*

[Insomniacs]

@Tywin upd8 on your read on me?

Haven't checked thread so what's to update?

So you checked the thread enough to vote SlySly yet are saying you didn't to not update your read on Gamma?

Please give Tywinn rope.

--Math

[Insomniacs]

We can lynch scum.

VOTE: Tywinn Lannister