Amnesiac Mafia: The Very First Edition (Game Over Already?)

[dramonic]

Honestly there are other possibilities besides you being scum.
If you're town mafia has no reason to shoot you cuz i want your lynch and gerri had no reason to either cuz you were buddying him.

You're alive, if youre town get to work.
Unless youre thunderstruck or something

[dramonic]

You can start by claiming your D1-4 roles

[dramonic]

no, no you're not.

[dramonic]

I wanna say you and Maria but it's LyLo so I'm waiting for the progression of the massclaim cuz something went awry over night.

[dramonic]

I assume that something power related happened over the night, dram?

That goes without saying

Like, I'm assuming there's a reason you're being coy right now

Obviously.

[dramonic]

vedith, UT and Maria?

[dramonic]

no idea, but it's third party.

[dramonic]

D1 Vig
D2 BP
D3 VT
D4 no comment

why no comment? That was last day night, whats your holdup?
^this is a rethorical question

vedith, UT and Maria?

Wut

Havent claimed
And myself.

[dramonic]

Actually, hold on. UT should be dead too.

If we've cleared him, he's a voice town could follow.

I'm not liking this.

UT hasnt exactly been a leader. Maybe hes a gf who got confirmed on a fluke, but most likely scum just doesnt feel that threatened cuz hes just "along for the ride"

[dramonic]

no, i want you to claim

[dramonic]

UT?
and Maria's "secret"

[dramonic]

Not quite no
Maria has a lot to answer for right now regarding her last night.

[dramonic]

not yet no.
Perhaps in the long run?

ftr
VT
VT
Vig
VT

You guys hogging the BP T_T

[dramonic]

Alright I'ma hold off on something for now then because it's important info

This is also something id like explained

[dramonic]

The massclaim is missing something pretty important. Maybe it's you who's holding it back.
I'm not planning to feed you your fakeclaim.

[dramonic]

"why do you wanna know my action"
"I know someone is BSing about their action"

Are you intentionally being dense?

[dramonic]

Still waiting on MariaR and dramonic to sort their stuff out.

I've already claimed my stuff, I just don't wanna give Maria a fakeclaim by saying what my problem with the current gamestate is.
She on the other hand, is just repeating what I'm saying back to me, but HASN'T fullclaimed.

I'm about ready to lynch her tbh.

[dramonic]

actually

vote: MariaR

EDIT: Because it's a guaranteed lynch on someone who isn't them further down the line, and the SK's aim has been abysmal all game.

[dramonic]

I'm currently drowning in WIFOM in regards to Kuroi.

[dramonic]

I've already claimed my stuff, I just don't wanna give Maria a fakeclaim by saying what my problem with the current gamestate is.
She on the other hand, is just repeating what I'm saying back to me, but HASN'T fullclaimed.

[dramonic]

I will say what I have to say when she changes her "no comment" into a claim she cant back out of.

[dramonic]

@work, will respond tonight.
Not moving my vote tho

[dramonic]

Okay so...

Let's ignore the fact Maria is claiming to have

magically survive the kill

Let's ignore the fact that she's claiming to have

bodyguarded an outted SK

Let's ignore the fact that she's claiming I'm killing her friends when

she knows gerri got vigged

We're missing the mafia kill (unless you think Gerri shot his lover on N1, the OD flavor is mafia)
Possibly, the mafia tried to shoot kuroi who's BP
Another possibility is that their kill overlapped with one of the others. I asked T-Bone about flavor overlaps and he gave me a ~maybe~ answer.

We have the vig kill.
Klazam softed to being the vig yesterday (and we otherwise have no vig claim).

Spoiler: softing

Maria. Claim your vig alibity again please.

Maria, is it the same kill flavor as what took wheme out?

His townflip proves the claim that the vig needs a second person to target for the kill to work.

My conclusion is that either:
Mafia shot kuroi and someone targetted gerri (PROBABLY NOT WITH A BODYGUARD), explaining both deaths
Mafia shot Klazam but the vig flavor overshadows it.

In either case...

vote: Maria

[dramonic]

EBWOP: I mean mafia shot Gerri.
I guess mafia coulda shot Klazam and the SK flavor overshadows it, AND someone targetted gerri is also a possibility.

[dramonic]

There's also the possibility they No Killed and Kuroi is fakeclaiming
Or they no killed and hes not.

plenty of options

[dramonic]

A strongman might, but the vig shot wouldnt

[dramonic]

Gerri died to a vig shot.
EDIT: MariaR knows that SOMEONE musta targetted Gerri for the vig to go through. I couldn't tell you WHY she decided to admit it and chose to claim BG of all things though.

[dramonic]

I'll make this quick while a storm is here I don't know what to tell you I because I did bg gerry and I don't know why I'm alive I don't know what someone did but I should be dead I wanted to see if someone would claim they roleblocked me or anything along those lines

all the people who tr me keep fucking dying dunn klaz dreal RR all the people who tr me die just so I can be set up as the mislynch so mafia win? fuck off that's an awful feeling

lemme get my violin

[dramonic]

Did dram ever talk about his nighttime issues or is he trying to bait and switch us here?

It was the lack of mafia nightkill + lack of second action to trigger the vig.

Someone did something to make my bg not go off that's the only reasonable answer out of all of this

So what do you suggest triggered the vig shot then?

[dramonic]

That soundd like a really convoluted setup attempt

[dramonic]

I still have a hard time with the part where you apparently decide using the bg on GERRI is a good idea.

He wws an outted scum and we have a cop inno.

[dramonic]

...yesterday.
Are you not reading the game?

[dramonic]

.
.
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It was the entire topic of yesterday. That and "is he mafia or sk"

[dramonic]

I think kuroi is trying to not claim scum with Maria, but honestly he's not making a very convincing case.
So many people have confirmed his reporter claim after all.

[dramonic]

Pretty sure mariaR -> Kuroi just wins us the game at this point. That reaction was terrible

[dramonic]

@Vedith: Do the right thing

[dramonic]

I'm currently drowning in WIFOM in regards to Kuroi.

[dramonic]

hammer MariaR

[dramonic]

one down, kuroi to go.
bout fucking time.

[dramonic]

I don't see how claiming now as opposed to tomorrow changes anything.

[dramonic]

... ascetic doesn't protect from kills anyways.

[dramonic]

Someone got BAITED

[dramonic]

...huh

[dramonic]

I was bulletproof. I'm assuming I got shot.

wasnt that your excuse yesterday?

[dramonic]

I personally have no explanation for the lack of kill, and my theory seems to be flunking.

[dramonic]

I was bulletproof. I'm assuming I got shot.

wasnt that your excuse yesterday?

...no?

You claimed bp yesterday as well and there was no mafia kill that night either.
CALL ME SKEPTICAL

@UT: I know, I'm saying I don't have a

personal

explanation. As in, I'm not responsible for the lack of kill.

[dramonic]

Ultimately it doesnt matter, its either kuroi or vedith and the lack of kill last night means we can lynch both by endgame

[dramonic]

Wait, nevermind. It's not lylo.

indeed, unless scum has really advanced methods of lynching their buddy with majority <_<

[dramonic]

It's Podo.
Kuroi vite with me!

This is

really bad

though.

[dramonic]

vote: vedith

[dramonic]

so just to confirm: you REALLY were an ascetic last night?

[dramonic]

I thought it was a ploy. Im disappointed.

[dramonic]

I'm sad one of them is town.

[dramonic]

He has pushed for the lynch of all three scum.

2

[dramonic]

There's bussing and then there's driving the bus onto people.

[dramonic]

OR I coulda just lynched you or Vedith yesterday and won then.

[dramonic]

Also ignoring the fact that if I were scum I wouldn't try to shoot my designated mislynch twice in a row.

[dramonic]

OR I coulda just lynched you or Vedith yesterday and won then.

Neither Vedith nor I was L-1 yesterday.

I mean as opposed to pushing MariaR.
It wouldn't exactly be hard.

[dramonic]

Votecount 19: Isn't it all magical?

Drumbeats (5): Katsuki, Randomidget, Wisdom, Whemestar, Gerryoat
Gerryoat (3): Frog, ActionDan, Drumbeats
ActionDan (2): Hiraki, MariaR
Frog (1): Desperado

Not Voting: Superb Subtlety, ErrantParabola, SleepyKrew, Almost50

With 15 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.
Deadline is in (expired on 2017-07-21 00:00:00)!

[dramonic]

...
This obviously doesn't belong here...

<_<;

[dramonic]

I am not used to this power of inertia and it makes me tingly.

[dramonic]

So are we done or is it yet another LyLo round?

[dramonic]

Btw Podo if you turn out to be scum I will murder you ♡

[dramonic]

Well conveniently mafia got the WTWP fakeclaim that RR corroborated

[dramonic]

We skipped 3p lylo because of wincons right?

[dramonic]

I would like to thank Podo for being the wind beneath my wings

[dramonic]

So as I said, fantastically convenient timing.
I woulda swayed you in lylo Podo ♡
At least I woulda tried x.X

[dramonic]

Do you think there's a chance UT is actually scum that dodged the investigation flip due to ignoring passives like us?

It lasted a moment but it was there xD

[dramonic]

I didnt make sense as mafia but with knowledge of a second team my play irt the gerri situation was super sketchy haha

[dramonic]

What's your actual opinion on Ircher scumslipping in the lover PT?

I was honest in my opinion. The slip was a stretch imo and irrelevant because him surviving confirned his alignment as nontown. Your fixation with that was weeeeird lol

Still why the hell did I die
Also why was I rolestopped n1
My entire thoughts are "why did this happen to me"

PR hunting.

[dramonic]

Tbh if i werent his buddy i woulda crusaded for gerri's death on d1 when he had that whole exchange with MariaR. They both sounded phony as fuck (and both flipped scum!)

[dramonic]

Thanks for modding T-Bone, was a fun game!

@LRF & Dreal: Don't do... whatever that shitshow was. You choked out conversation for the first few days <_<
Especially if youre both town, you don't need to convince each other that the other is scum

[dramonic]

Im glad nobody batted an eyelash at Gerri flipping not "SK".
I just went "THATS TOTALLY AN SK FLIP PEOPLE!" and it was left as that.

Im curious to see the scum PT.

[dramonic]

but, it'd be swell if people learned how to play mafia better, you go by likelihoods and probabilities and play the best odds tempered by reasonability

FB gets a guilty on UT - you lynch one of them, it's fundamental - 19players and the likelihood of the investigative picking the miller over picking scum? with how it all went down? and I just kept getting shit for bringing up UT as a potential lynch, like III'M the shit player because it's something I'm still strongly considering...yeeaaahhhh

...Except he actually got a miller role on that rotation, so your argument is invalid.
And I personally didn't advocate your lynch because I was nontown. I advocated your lynch because you played like mafia. Really bad mafia, but mafia nonetheless.

[dramonic]

You don't get lynched for playing well.

[dramonic]

We do get something.
Mostly a headache and a scumread.