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The first 20 pages indicate to me that gonk manipulated Zach into claiming. It looks like he used Arcade, either intentionally or unwittingly, to help him leverage Zach. Therefore, I'd rather lynch gonk, but I'm ok on Arcade.
I chose to include PV in the story because he played an integral part in the pressure dynamics in that conversation.
Several of the players in this game are treating this like chat-room mafia, and I am unable to process this much text in depth. Likewise, I am not able to chime in on every topic or react to every development in real time. I have notes on everyone whose posts I have read so far, and I am currently reading several people carefully. When I have another confident lead, I will share that.-
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I've caught up since last post and also is Iso'd lasagna/transcend, rb/GR, and carcallilly.
Carcallilly posts almost all fluff. She could be scum hanging back and trying to blend in, or town with no strong reads. Not useful town, not immediately threatening scum.
The blowup between ladagna/trans and rb feels manufactured to me. At this point, I think it's a gambit and we could successfully lynch scrum either way.
Game is not a convincing town in rbs slot.
I still believe think is a good lynch.
Arcade is still possibly scrum with gonk.
Thus, i'm happy to lynch rb or trans today.
Trans will help me lynch rb's slot, so...
VOTE: GAME REPLACEMENT
On a strategy level, if town players could stop defending their friends and towareads, and focus on sharing scumreads, that would make it a lot easier to figure out actual mafia teams.-
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EbwopIn post 2576, TPFKAP wrote:I've caught up since last post and also is Iso'd lasagna/transcend, rb/GR, and carcallilly.
Carcallilly posts almost all fluff. She could be scum hanging back and trying to blend in, or town with no strong reads. Not useful town, not immediately threatening scum.
The blowup between ladagna/trans and rb feels manufactured to me. At this point, I think it's a gambit and we could successfully lynch scrum either way.
Game is not a convincing town in rbs slot.
I still believegonkis a good lynch.
Arcade is still possibly scrum with gonk.
Thus, i'm happy to lynch rb or trans today.
Trans will help me lynch rb's slot, so...
VOTE: GAME REPLACEMENT
On a strategy level, if town players could stop defending their friends and towareads, and focus on sharing scumreads, that would make it a lot easier to figure out actual mafia teams.-
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Zach wrote:few questions:
- When was the last time you played?
I may have played one game of mafia in the last year, but I don't think I've played here for around two years. I didn't check before making this post.
1. If Carcalilly's posting is all fluff, how then is she "not immediately threatening scum?" You prioritize your scum or are you calling her null after calling her posting all fluff?
Her posts are impotent and superficial. She's probably overwhelmed townie, but she might be timid scum. Either way, she poses no immediate threat to the town.
2. Did you just call that whole thing theatre?
Yes, I did.
3. Does your GR vote factor in the claims? Did you already state your thoughts on the "CC" we have going on?
I think I understand someone claimed some kind of doc and someone else claimed some kind of doc and there has been a lot of debate about if those two kinds of docs could credibly be assumed to be in the game together. I am not factoring it in to my GR vote.
4. Why is gonkbadoop scum on their play?
He manipulated you into claiming your flavor between day 1 and day 20 (a few hours?)
Gonk buddied up to you right away by following your vote on hebi.
Gonk jumped in to defend you against Arcade's meta case.
Gonk continued to defend you and sheeped.
After you had softclaimed twice, suddenly gonk starts praising Arcade.
Then, after you and hebi agreed to a Lycanfire wagon, gonk suggested you flavor claim.
Arcade agreed.
You said no.
Arcade says "dunn here",
and gonk votes for you and shoots smilies at Arcade.
gonk says there is no reason not to claim, and you do.
5. Why is Transcend/Lasagne scum on their play?
Here are my notes on Lasagne:
lasagna: why me?, asks for vig, votes RB, fluff, ready to sheep Zach, vague support of votes, wars against zach tunneling on so 651, fluff, buddying to spiffeh, asks what spiffe things he would be as scum, townreads hebi, defends hebi a lot. asking many questions about meta, sucks PVs cock, tries to confirm gonk.
And, of course, see question 2.
6. I'm sure you have to have analyzed... other stuff, right?
Of course, I have notes on everyone who has posted, and incomplete theories here and there.
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game > carc > arcadeIn post 2812, gerryoat wrote:How would everyone else rank that list?-
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viewtopic.php?p=9510217#p9510217 hebi unvotes Carca (L-6)
viewtopic.php?p=9510259#p9510259 hebi votes for Arcade
viewtopic.php?p=9510491#p9510491 Zach votes for Game
viewtopic.php?p=9510514#p9510514 Zach votes for Carca (L-6)
viewtopic.php?p=9510729#p9510729 Carc votes for Zach
viewtopic.php?p=9510778#p9510778 Uzi votes for Carc (L-5)
viewtopic.php?p=9510780#p9510780 Tran votes for Carc (L-4)
viewtopic.php?p=9510790#p9510790 Tran votes for Game
viewtopic.php?p=9510818#p9510818 Tran votes for Carc (L-4)
viewtopic.php?p=9510871#p9510871 Tran revotes for Carc (L-4)
viewtopic.php?p=9510877#p9510877 Zach unvotes Carc (L-5)
viewtopic.php?p=9511015#p9511015 Tran revotes for Carc (L-4)
viewtopic.php?p=9511032#p9511032 torgon votes for Carc (L-3)
viewtopic.php?p=9511208#p9511208 hebi votes for Carc (L-2)
viewtopic.php?p=9511288#p9511288 Zach votes for Game
viewtopic.php?p=9511381#p9511381 Zach votes for Carc (L-1)
viewtopic.php?p=9511412#p9511412 Arcade revotes Lol Uzi Vert
viewtopic.php?p=9511417#p9511417 Arcade votes for Lycanfire
viewtopic.php?p=9511419#p9511419 Arcade votes for POWERFUL
viewtopic.php?p=9511632#p9511632 TPFKAP votes for Game
viewtopic.php?p=9511653#p9511653 POWERFUL revotes for Game
viewtopic.php?p=9511743#p9511743 Tran votes for Game (L-10) (Carc at L-2)
viewtopic.php?p=9511941#p9511941 Arcade votes for TPFKAP
viewtopic.php?p=9511943#p9511943 Narna revotes for Game
viewtopic.php?p=9511944#p9511944 Uzi votes for TPFKAP (Carc at L-3)
viewtopic.php?p=9511954#p9511954 POWERFUL votes for TPFKAP
viewtopic.php?p=9511973#p9511973 grapes votes for TPFKAP (Carc at L-4)
viewtopic.php?p=9512001#p9512001 Carc votes for TPFKAP
viewtopic.php?p=9512068#p9512068 Carc unvotes
viewtopic.php?p=9512282#p9512282 SlySly votes for Arcade
viewtopic.php?p=9512329#p9512329 Tran votes for TPFKAP
Carcalilly (7)- Bins, Spiffeh, Game Replacement, Gorkington, Zachstralkita, hebichan, torgonitoh
TPFKAP (5) - Transcend, grapes, POWERFUL WARRIOR, Lil Uzi Vert, Arcade Pals
Arcade Pals (4)- Lycanfire, Hopkirk, gonkbadoop taskmaster, SlySly
Game Replacement (2)- Narna, TPFKAP
hebichan (1) - gerryoat
Not Voting (1)- PeregrineV, Carcalilly-
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In post 2842, hebichan wrote:Thank you letters.-
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I'm not sure that I understand what you mean here. Could you explain "scum clustering 4 people and seeing where the wind takes him with it"?In post 1432, Transcend wrote:this doesn't look like town effort rather, scum clustering 4 people and seeing where the wind takes him with it.
Why did you choose this moment to move your vote?
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He tunneled on hebi almost exclusively and has posted very little content.In post 2846, hebichan wrote:
How do you feel about Gerry?In post 2845, TPFKAP wrote:grapes, how do you feel about the wagon on Carc getting to L-1 and then dissolving?-
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I've put forward two theories involving several different players. My votes follow my theories. My reasons for my votes are stated immediately. I've asked and answered questions.
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Zach says that she is a potential "PT checker" (I don't know what PT means). Does this make any difference to you?In post 2852, torgonitoh wrote:
carlily is no pickIn post 2847, lettuce salad wrote:Not Voting (2)- PeregrineV, Carcalilly[/b]
carlily is no find badmans
carlily is no find goodmans
carlily is no do a thing?
why keep?
all pick we sleep i find badmans when no post ok
The task you propose is not "easy."In post 2850, TPFKAP wrote:i have a really easy task for you:
give me an example of one game youve seen
where theres been scum theater to the level that you think rb/kraska interactions went to this game
First, you are asking me to dig through my long term memory and/or old games. I estimate that this would take at least an hour. I don't have that to spare.
Second, you ask me to provide an example of scum theater "to the level" that I think rb/kraska went to in this game. This is problematic for two reasons. One: I don't know rb or kraska, so I have no idea what "level" this is. Second: I don't know what YOUR definition of "level" here is, so you could effortlessly shoot down anything I submit anyway. For these reasons, this task is "difficult."
Gorkington, you have misrepresented me;In post 2868, Gorkington wrote:+++ their initial readthrough and only taking notes on four people doesnt seem real either.
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6. I'm sure you have to have analyzed... other stuff, right?Zach wrote:few questions:
Of course, I have notes on everyone who has posted, and incomplete theories here and there.In post 2124, TPFKAP wrote:Several of the players in this game are treating this like chat-room mafia, and I am unable to process this much text in depth. Likewise, I am not able to chime in on every topic or react to every development in real time.I have notes on everyone whose posts I have read so far, and I am currently reading several people carefully. When I have another confident lead, I will share that.-
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Yes, thank you. I retract the question.In post 2884, hebichan wrote:No, zach said she is a potential pt check, not checker.
Arcade pals have claimed that they are a cop that can check if people have a pt, since carca claimed VT, she shouldn't have one.
If she does, she is likely scum, or will need to have a very good reason to have one. Though, since arcade pals refuses to be leashed,we can't be certain she is being checked.-
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In post 2850, TPFKAP wrote:I've put forward two theories involving several different players. My votes follow my theories. My reasons for my votes are stated immediately. I've asked and answered questions.
I am choosing not to share my less confident reads at this time.In post 2886, Gorkington wrote:
i) you need to seriously elaborate on why you think rb/kraska was scum theater, because from where i stand thats a completely farcical stance to take on their interactions and if you arent basing that off of some level of experience where youve seen scum do something like that, then i have no idea how you could actually come to that conclusion.tpkfap wrote:The task you propose is not "easy."
First, you are asking me to dig through my long term memory and/or old games. I estimate that this would take at least an hour. I don't have that to spare.
Second, you ask me to provide an example of scum theater "to the level" that I think rb/kraska went to in this game. This is problematic for two reasons. One: I don't know rb or kraska, so I have no idea what "level" this is. Second: I don't know what YOUR definition of "level" here is, so you could effortlessly shoot down anything I submit anyway. For these reasons, this task is "difficult."
ii) if you dont know rb/kraska, it seems a little odd for you to jump to them both being scum instead of asking or mentioning that, especially since a lot of people have been talking about (including rb and kraska) this being a thing that has basis outside of this game.
iii) it doesnt matter what my level is.
its what your level is.
i want to judge what you consider to be scum theater by your own experiences, and if you cant, well, you should explain in a lot of detail what made you think that it was fake.
can you share some of your other less confident reads then?tpfkap wrote:Gorkington, you have misrepresented me;
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For whom?In post 2896, Gorkington wrote:thats convenient.-
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Zach, when you ask me "why does it seem like you're ignoring this for some reason," you are asking me to tell you why other people feel a certain way about my actions.In post 2898, Zachstralkita wrote:TPFKAP, do you know that we're trying to share rope with you? Why does it seem like you're ignoring this for some reason?
As a result, my answer is "I don't know why I seem like I'm ignoring the fact that you are trying to share a rope with me."-
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1. You didn't ask any questions.In post 2900, Gorkington wrote:are you just ignoring the first half of the post you quoted or are you getting to responding to it?
also youre being convenient in not sharing your other reads when youre being run up.
2. For whom am I being convenient?-
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I posted an unofficial vote count that illustrated, in full detail, the wagon on me. I am checking he thread frequently, asking and answering questions, and conversing with the other players both on and off my wagon. What further acknowledgement do you think Zach desires?In post 2901, Gorkington wrote:
hes actually asking you to acknowledge the fact that youre being wagoned.In post 2899, TPFKAP wrote:you are asking me to tell you why other people feel a certain way about my actions.-
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EbwopIn post 2903, Gorkington wrote:
so you have nothing to say to thisIn post 2886, Gorkington wrote:i) you need to seriously elaborate on why you think rb/kraska was scum theater, because from where i stand thats a completely farcical stance to take on their interactions and if you arent basing that off of some level of experience where youve seen scum do something like that, then i have no idea how you could actually come to that conclusion.
ii) if you dont know rb/kraska, it seems a little odd for you to jump to them both being scum instead of asking or mentioning that, especially since a lot of people have been talking about (including rb and kraska) this being a thing that has basis outside of this game.
iii) it doesnt matter what my level is.
its what your level is.
i want to judge what you consider to be scum theater by your own experiences, and if you cant, well, you should explain in a lot of detail what made you think that it was fake..-
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Why would I do that?In post 2905, Gorkington wrote:youre being convenient because if youre scum its easier for you to focus on a few slots and not have to justify any other reads.-
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What would that kind of reaction provide town to work with?In post 2909, Gorkington wrote:usually people are like "oh god a wagon on me!"
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"fuck you guys stop voting me"
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"these votes on me suck"
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"i am having a genuine human reaction to things that are happening in this game"
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Don't lynch me, I'm town.In post 2911, Zachstralkita wrote:I'm sorry but did you never think about "don't lynch me, I'm town"? that's what we're wondering.-
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Everything I'm doing has a reason, I've explained every action that has been questioned. I will be happy to answer further questions as well.In post 2912, Gorkington wrote:
why are you doing anything that youre doingIn post 2910, TPFKAP wrote:Why would I do that?
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Do you want description or critical analysis?
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Zach, Gork wrote "so you have nothing to say to this?" I edited the post to read "so you have nothing to say to this."In post 2920, Zachstralkita wrote:
TPFKAP wrote:
EbwopIn post 2903, Gorkington wrote:
so you have nothing to say to thisIn post 2886, Gorkington wrote:i) you need to seriously elaborate on why you think rb/kraska was scum theater, because from where i stand thats a completely farcical stance to take on their interactions and if you arent basing that off of some level of experience where youve seen scum do something like that, then i have no idea how you could actually come to that conclusion.
ii) if you dont know rb/kraska, it seems a little odd for you to jump to them both being scum instead of asking or mentioning that, especially since a lot of people have been talking about (including rb and kraska) this being a thing that has basis outside of this game.
iii) it doesnt matter what my level is.
its what your level is.
i want to judge what you consider to be scum theater by your own experiences, and if you cant, well, you should explain in a lot of detail what made you think that it was fake..
TPFKAP wrote:
What would that kind of reaction provide town to work with?
To be clear, that was a smartass way for me to say "right, I have nothing to say to that." I refuse to respond to that post. Ask me direct questions.-
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In what context?In post 2919, Gorkington wrote:why do you think people do things-
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I. can you please elaborate on why you think rb/kraska was scum theater
Sure. I think there are two explanations for in-game drama on that magnitude
1. Both people involved are immature, overly sensitive, and self-absorbed, and selfish.
2. One is scum and intentionally tilting the other in order to distract the town from scumhunting.
3. It's a bi-lateral scum gambit.
I think 2 or 3 is more likely. Either way, scum theater.
can you explain why you jumped here if people have been mentioning that theres history between the two of them
If one or both are scum, playing to their history would apparently be a great idea, solid scum strategy.
iii) can you please refer to any game you can remember offhand where youve seen any kind of comparable scum theatrics
Not offhand. I will deliver on this later if I have the opportunity.-
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I don't believe you.In post 2932, hebichan wrote:I apprently have two votes now.
VOTE: TPF
VOTE: TPF
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that's not a hammer, even if she does have doublevote. I'd be at 9.In post 2934, Zachstralkita wrote:WHAT THE FUCK? If this greens I'm going to start whiteknighting everything in existence if I don't think it comes from scum from now on. Otherwise I wasted my time.
TPFKAP, hebichan just hammered. This is the part where you tell us if you're town or scum.-
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Sorry, I get it now. Mod error.In post 2936, TPFKAP wrote:
I don't believe you.In post 2932, hebichan wrote:I apprently have two votes now.
VOTE: TPF
VOTE: TPF
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Why are you satisfied with lurking through the entire first day?In post 2937, SlySly wrote:
Transcend apparently has 2 votes as well. Are y'all buddies?In post 2932, hebichan wrote:I apprently have two votes now.
VOTE: TPF
VOTE: TPF
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Arcade: tryign to stirr things back up on narna, too bulldoggy on zach, claims thatIn post 2927, Arcade Pals wrote:
I thought you were taking notes on us?In post 2883, TPFKAP wrote:Zach says that she is a potential "PT checker" (I don't know what PT means). Does this make any difference to you?
Arcade: Rolefishing, role speculation, distractions, "I'm keeping my vote here" post, claims,
Here are my notes on youse.-
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that will take me a while to go back and find, but I recall there was a shift in the conversation and instead of following the shift, you said something to the effect of "but narna you guys".In post 2947, Arcade Pals wrote:
What does this mean?In post 2944, TPFKAP wrote:tryign to stirr things back up on narna-
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I don't know what you are talking about.In post 2946, Zachstralkita wrote:In post 2938, TPFKAP wrote:
that's not a hammer, even if she does have doublevote. I'd be at 9.In post 2934, Zachstralkita wrote:WHAT THE FUCK? If this greens I'm going to start whiteknighting everything in existence if I don't think it comes from scum from now on. Otherwise I wasted my time.
TPFKAP, hebichan just hammered. This is the part where you tell us if you're town or scum.
But.. the dayvig..
No, not a chance. I'm not giving my townreads to scum.In post 2952, Zachstralkita wrote:
Yeah I guess we could use the full document before flip.Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
Notes on everyone TP.
I'm not sure what NAI stands for, but any disrespect here comes from the two people who chose to air their dirty laundry and explode in a public game of mafia. 2 is scum theatre because at least one scum is pretending to freak out and quit.In post 2962, Zachstralkita wrote:In post 2935, TPFKAP wrote:
Sure. I think there are two explanations for in-game drama on that magnitude
1. Both people involved are immature, overly sensitive, and self-absorbed, and selfish.
2. One is scum and intentionally tilting the other in order to distract the town from scumhunting.
3. It's a bi-lateral scum gambit.
I think 2 or 3 is more likely. Either way, scum theater.
I'm lynching this cause I just don't believe it, but for the record
How is calling it theatre different from calling it NAI? Both are disrespectful.
This is scum trying to justify a mislynch.In post 2965, Transcend wrote:i don't want to think of a world where this slot flips green
if i does flip green it's unconventionally some of the worst mafia play i've seen in my life
i have not met a single user on this site that every single post they make triggers me to the point of wanting to lynch them
like i've had some scumreads that have towntold in some of their posts
but no
every single post from this fucker is a mafia claim
kill it
I am happy that I got to pop your cherry on this oneIn post 2968, Zachstralkita wrote:
This confuses me so much. I've never seen someone respond like this.In post 2915, TPFKAP wrote:
What would that kind of reaction provide town to work with?In post 2909, Gorkington wrote:usually people are like "oh god a wagon on me!"
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"fuck you guys stop voting me"
or
"these votes on me suck"
or
"i am having a genuine human reaction to things that are happening in this game"
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That's not what lurking really is though. Lurking is keeping yourself in the shadows and unnoticed. You appear to be maintaining a very small footprint intentionally. Can you say the same of me?In post 2977, SlySly wrote:What you missed in your post was timing. You have like 1 or 2 more posts than me. I find it hilarious that you are calling me out for lurking. I have posted every RL day this game has been going.-
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How would the game change if someone laid out a case for town-hebichan?In post 2987, SlySly wrote:
You must not have agreed like I did.In post 2984, Gorkington wrote:i dont remember any of gerry's stances in spite of him having 100+ posts
I'll paraphrase what gerry's been cooking, "HEY FUCKERS, SOMEONE TELL ME WHY HEBICHAN IS TOWN BECAUSE I THINK HEBICHAN IS SCUM"-
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Could you present your case?In post 2996, SlySly wrote:When I tried, all I saw was scumHebi.-
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Anyone can crumb anything.In post 3012, grapes wrote:
Your flashwagon looked fun/whimsy; I like to be a team player on occasion.In post 3010, TPFKAP wrote:Why did you leave it?
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Hebi, can you explain the reasoning behind this vote in more detail? If possible, could you explain in your own words what Carc had done to make you ready to lynch her?In post 820, hebichan wrote:
I'm actually just kinda ready to lynch this.In post 675, Carcalilly wrote:
I'm just embarassed to say that i thought that cop claim was legit ok??In post 652, Narna wrote:In post 608, Carcalilly wrote:He was acting weird but then
I realized that it's just NarnaIn post 629, Narna wrote:
Carca should not be familiar with me or my towngame.In post 625, Narna wrote:lmao I got my timeline messed up anyway, carry on VOTE: rb Carca still needs to explain the, "Narna's just being Narna" bit.
please stop :C
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Well, hebi, I am on my phone right now, so it's a bit hard for me to analyze your I SO, take notes, and post. Could you please simply write one complete sentence that summarizes why you believe carca was scrum at that moment?In post 3034, hebichan wrote:
I have, multiple times, ISO me if you want to see it, I practically started that wagon, I just rejoined it later on.In post 3033, TPFKAP wrote:
Hebi, can you explain the reasoning behind this vote in more detail? If possible, could you explain in your own words what Carc had done to make you ready to lynch her?In post 820, hebichan wrote:
I'm actually just kinda ready to lynch this.In post 675, Carcalilly wrote:
I'm just embarassed to say that i thought that cop claim was legit ok??In post 652, Narna wrote:In post 608, Carcalilly wrote:He was acting weird but then
I realized that it's just NarnaIn post 629, Narna wrote:
Carca should not be familiar with me or my towngame.In post 625, Narna wrote:lmao I got my timeline messed up anyway, carry on VOTE: rb Carca still needs to explain the, "Narna's just being Narna" bit.
please stop :C
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In post 1882, Spiffeh wrote:VOTE: Carcalilly
I guess?
I haven't explored hebi in awhile because her posts responding to my criticism of her seemed pretty town and requesting to be part of the masonry, while somewhat unbelievable, would have risked her being outed really early on for no reason if she were scum.
I'm probably still willing to lynch Game Replacement even if the CC isn't real.
And there are a ton of slots I've either been overlooking or that have done jack shit that are probably lynch worthy too.In post 2528, torgonitoh wrote:is so much post!
sorry i have the bisy time.
i read the mans, but the mans tell power. think is ok, no pick. think badmans pick.
i not read all, is so much. many mans pick carlily, this good! so i pick. replacemans is can pick to.
VOTE: carlilyIn post 3178, Gorkington wrote:lolme
looked at her ISO and she literally hasnt had reads in ages.
or at least she isnt pushing anything on her own.
vote: carcalilly
we should narrow the lynch choices to lilly/tkpletters and force people to choose under pain of shouting at themIn post 3180, Zachstralkita wrote:Gorkington wrote:lolme
looked at her ISO and she literally hasnt had reads in ages.
or at least she isnt pushing anything on her own.
vote: carcalilly
we should narrow the lynch choices to lilly/tkpletters and force people to choose under pain of shouting at them
ihu you're the reason I leftttttt
VOTE: CarcaLMAO
definitely agree with gladiate of TPFKPP/CarcaIn post 3181, Transcend wrote:VOTE: carc
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~ThEvIbEs~
Say green
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Of course there are town players on your wagon that "just want a lynch", but no one on your wagon really thinks you are scum, apparently.In post 3234, Carcalilly wrote:I mean, wanting a lynch and going with wagons could come from Town.-
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and then this.
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Then the revival of this wagon is shit.In post 3254, Zachstralkita wrote:In post 3251, TPFKAP wrote:Spiffeh is guessing?
Game is just (counter)wagoning.
Torg is just jumping on the bandwagon.
Gork is trying to establish a false binary.
Zach is supporting the false binary.
Transcend flat out thinks Carc is town.
Bins is voting for a wagon that she says is grapes'
This is a shit wagon.
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Glad you knew what I meant.In post 3256, Gorkington wrote:false binary is a pretty garbage way to describe what i was trying to do,
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yeah i kind of dont really love carc or pigletters for scum right now.
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Could you explain your townread on GR for me?In post 3262, Hopkirk wrote:If Arcade pals is a PT checker then a scum neighbourizer seems highly plausible. If so then scum could provide 'evidence' that both AP and GR are scum, making us lynch both. A simple roleblocker also means we are stuck in the same scenario we are now. Given (as of page 90 something) I townread GR and scumread AP (one but not both), I see no value in this.
Sorry but I don't follow the theory:How would scum "prove" that ap and gr were scum?
Carcalilly, you need to put some effort in at this point or you are just making it harder to lynch scum (if you are town). So really, either way, you need to post content. Pick someone and ISOthem, give a read, etc.-
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I'll start that now.In post 3266, Zachstralkita wrote:In post 3265, Carcalilly wrote:In post 3264, Zachstralkita wrote:In post 3260, TPFKAP wrote: Then the revival of this wagon is shit.
I mean what are your thoughts on Carcalilly herself's ISO being very redwhat do you mean?
So, you have time to make memes at exactly 4:20, but you haven't solved... any thing?...? and don't have reads?
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Ok, finished.
I think Carcalilly is town. Since her #16 or so, she actually has posted more content than I thought.
She has been consistent in giving reads. Some of her explanations have been, well, unhelpful: "it's just the stuff they say and the way they say it". However, she interacted with a wide swath of the game, in reaction to game events, with opinions, and that is content. I don't find any obvious contradictions in those opinions. In fact, all of them make some kind of legitimate sense to me.
She also has done at least a little scum hunting / investigation. During the neighborizer fiasco, she pressed hebi on her hesitation to be Masoned. She asked for a meta read on PV. She asks if Ninja is a scum roll.
She's consistently shared her reads on other players, and they aren't bad.
Her scetchy interaction with narna is the worst part of her play as far as I can see. But even that has a very simple town explanation.
Town by me.
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Bins, what is the scumread, in your own words?In post 3272, Bins wrote:
thats.. thats not what i meant? or like how is this bad? my original vote was sheeping grapes but i still agree with the scumreadIn post 3251, TPFKAP wrote:Bins is voting for a wagon that she says is grapes'
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