The Sexy Brutale Mafia (OVER)

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Alright Setup spec
Assuming Wheme is Town, your role + the Miller definitely makes me think there is a Godfather or scum has some kind of investigation immunity.
NC's role also makes sense here with this theory.
Garrybote is for the most part cleared to me.
Hiraki and Desperado are lock scum for me tbh.
This just leaves {Sleepy, Wis, a50}
The 2 scum HAVE to be in there.
and I townread A50.


Also for prosperity:

@Dram what does Katsuki's role do?

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Tho I kinda want NC to be caught up before we all just start putting votes on Hiraki.

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The dude doesn't even fucking exist.
He just spent all game deathtunneling Frog and I don't buy that tunnel was naturally formed.

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Garry did you claim btw?

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Eh
you don't need to I guess if you don't want to.

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Link to Soccer Sports?
I'ma also attempt to look at Smite.

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A50
you just openned up a whole new can of warms.

Okay
I believe you.

However Hiraki is still scum here.
I also have 0 idea how jjh got to this conclusion, so he's making a post about it.


I'ma think more on what this means as well.
Meanwhile let me give you some fruit.
Do you think we should be looking for a 3man scumteam or a 4man scumteam?

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Well I checked smite and it didn't so...

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That's actually optimal if Wis ends up dieing first.
Yeah I am down for waiting.
gives NC time to catchup and I can bounce thoughts off of A50.
I may even get a chance to get a Wis invest off.

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Or rather NC may.

Fuck me man I'ma just go back to my fps game

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A50 I'ma do some mod meta invesitigations on Dram and see what I come up with
That means I should probably get on a computer even tho I want to just be on my iPad and chill.
and tbh I forgot wis could be GF, I'd say invest Sleepy.

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I can't find anything where Dram provided fakeclaims

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Now, how many players in this game do we know who can lead their scum team to endgame unscathed? I mean, even of those NOT in this game I'd say Cerb has had to offer some scapegoats in the past. I won't speak of RC who even LOVES to bus for the fun of it. Who else?

Personally I'm only aware of one player in this game who can do that. Guess who that might be.

Yeah me.
Dunno about Sleepy, but I know Wis can, and maybe Hiraki

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Okay, so Hiraki talking about his flavour text was a scumclaim.

Dramonic was a bit lazy with role PMs and copied the bulk of the role pm flavour from either the official site or the tvtropes characters page. They're both the same because tvtropes copied the site.

Hiraki expanded on Wisdom's claimed flavour text with stuff from paragraphs beyond the first paragraph from that site. Our role PM uses only the first paragraph, and from Almost50's claim, which was when I picked up this crap. I believe the same should be true of other people.

Not content with simply claiming exactly the same as what Wisdom did, Hiraki decided to add a little- which gave him away instantly.

-jj

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I have this feeling that Wis is town and I'm not really liking these votes, I kinda prefer hiraki right now.

Also Desperado Really really needs a prod.

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Oh Hello Desperado how are you today?

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You came out of nowhere to drop a fucking HAMMER
and now I am fucking WORRIED because you are definitely a SCUMFUCK

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Like
you're not even trying anymore.
I'm sad

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You came out of nowhere to drop a fucking HAMMER
and now I am fucking WORRIED because you are definitely a SCUMFUCK

i came out of nowhere to vote the person i said was the correct lynch the last time i had a chance to comment

jeez, what a shocker

I am SHOCKED MAN
You're like a fucking ELECTRIC SHOCK MAN

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VOTE: Wis

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UNVOTE:

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So basicly
you kept us alive for this whole game.

I kinda
dunno what to say.

Thank you.

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Wis when does your action resolve?

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I feel like if we lynch Wis then scum can freely kill people again and I don't want that to happen

I feel like Hiraki only voted town.
Yeah, I agree with you wis the last scum are in {Wheme, Desperado, Sleepy} always here.

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VOTE: Desperado
We can lynch Wis later lets kill this now.

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Actually wait
UNVOTE:
this is troubling hmm...

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Wis what is your win con?

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Okay, so Wisdom just actually scumclaimed and Alisae is fine with that.

Obviously a third party like Wisdom is harmless and could only be pro-town despite his wincon. Wait, actually, you know what we could use? Some kind of process by which we can infer just how useful Wisdom is to us and whether it's actually worth not lynching him right away. Something like questions, maybe?



Wisdom.
1. Summarise your flavour.
2. What happened in nights 1 and 2 that caused 2 people to die outside of the regular scumkill?
3. What's the order that people are dying in today?
4. Can you think of any good reason for us to actually not lynch you right now?

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{Garry, NC, Almost, Us} <-- Remaining Town
{Wheme, Sleepy, Desperado} <-- Remaining Groupscum
{Wis} <-- Wis is special to my heart <3

Where do we lynch first.

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jjh I'm fine with it because he's not lieing about being a 3rd party
I'm just figuring out which one to fucking lynch.

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VOTE: Desperado
Bye

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I think we lynch Sleepy, and Desperado first
then Wis
Then figure out who the last scum is.

jjh wants me to unvote so
UNVOTE:
but my vote is going back on Desperado.

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How the fuck was anything to do with that lynch luck

-jj

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VOTE: Desperado
jjh you're time's up, I'm pawning you for a Desperado lynch now.

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we jailkept Wis last night anyways.

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i send a list of names at

night

, first two die 7 days after daystart and then two every 24 hours

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except we roleblocked you?

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4 town
3 scum probably
Wis

That's where we are at withe gamestate.
Townbloc is town.
I want to keep Wis alive so the mechanic still exists but just quicklynch and get back our lynches. Sleepy and Desperado are atleast lock scum at this point, so those should just be our lynches.

Modkills are great but honestly I don't think we have time to wait.

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PoE sadly.

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Garry is town via inno
NC is just a cop and scum don't fake the "dramonic suddenly told me this" bits.
A50 just bleeds town via play.

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A50 as much as I agree with you on the fakeclaim bit
it bugs me that I feel like he would have used it differently if he was groupscum.

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Like
him controlling modkills allows him to control who his scumteam nightkills.
Don't cha think that would have been used a lot differently?
And I kinda doubt groupscum!Wis kills Random here, scum!Wis would atleast try to win that 1v1 and no kill.

pedit: There were no modkills D3 and I don't think they have tbh, NC kinda needs to do that.

Either way Sleepy, if you want to be town you're welcome to try because at this point you kinda need to do that

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Sleepy, who is scum in {Me, Garrybote, NC, A50} and why.
If you're town I can't magically townread you the way you're playing atm, ya need to fetch me a bone here.

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Ez
Hiraki thought the Wis lynch would go through 100%.
If Hiraki was caught ccing a 3rd party, that makes Hiraki look town right?
He didn't come up with the fakeclaim.
He had the impulse to CC and went with it hoping it would work out in the end.

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But yeah
we need the result.

pedit: becuase random guiltied Wis?

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nope

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That means I'm kinda getting paranoid on my a50 read.

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Like
Garry you're great and all but you need to stop being clueless and play the game man

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Wisdom.
1. Summarise your flavour.
2. What happened in nights 1 and 2 that caused 2 people to die outside of the regular scumkill?
3. What's the order that people are dying in today?
4. Can you think of any good reason for us to actually not lynch you right now?

This needs doing.



Wheme, target Gerryoat and flavourclaim, please.


-jj

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@Ali: Come on, dude. I mean what have I said or done that made you second guess your read on me? Now I understand that I -as Town- come off a bit scummy (sometimes on purpose and sometimes just because of my playstyle) but even that I'm not doing here.

I'm looking at Sleepy's interactions with Desperado and I kinda like them except there's one thing that bugs me and I don't like you recent wis push it's making me paranoid and and and waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah ;~;

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jjh: apologies, my scumread on Hiraki wasn't very strong despite what i said so i was uneasy on the lynch until the flip. you're right, it wasn't luck.

on behalf of jjh you're fine :3

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Lol ok I'll read tonight

THANK
YOU

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I thought Vedith was from Dan, and Kise/Brian was from Wis andor Groupscum

Last night random got killed because you all waited for the investigation, and yet the one that was targeted for that investigation didn't get modkilled, and WISDOM DIDN'T SAY A WORD ABOUT IT

Now if Scum can only kill from those who get modkilled then by lynching Wisdom the killing STOPS because there will be no more modkills during the day to begin with. It becomes a nightless game (and especially so with random already dead).

Wait, who was the person that was targetted for an invest?

And as for the nightless part, I'm not as sure as you are on this,
like
I'm not as confident to take this leap of faith as you are.

pedit: aaaaaaaaah ya know what
I'ma take a blind leep of faith
VOTE: Wis
fuck it.

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Who did you erroneously target this time?

-jj

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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaah I feel summoned I'll get to this in a bit I promise

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Okay it's been a bit I wanted to test out something

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A50

What have you done to my head

it's spinning

help

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Garry I want to lynch Wis today
I know that Desperado needs to go probably tomorrow.
It's just a matter of finding the last one in Sleepy and Wheme.

tbh I'm thinking if there is one last towny it's Sleepy, because I liked his Interactions with Desperado D2 I believe it was.
I'm failing to see how Wheme is using his ability in a pro-town manner.

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Also Desperado attempting to go for the Sleepy lynch bugs me a lot.


Vote Wis dude
I don't want to wait for modkills or any of that.
If there is no 3rd party it's 3 scum 5 town and if scum gets a kill we will be in a bad place.
If it's 1 3rd party 3 scum and 4 town we need to start lynching as quickly as possible and lynching scum if we want to get our numbers back and win this.

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VOTE: Damonic
God dammit Dram.

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VOTE: Desperado
I don't think words are in order to explain why this is scum yeah?

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I submitted a jailkeep on NC for you A50.

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I like mod screws

I don't think that crosses the lines of mod screw however

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Desperado
it's Day 7 and all you have off at this point in the game is LAMIST tells.

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what's lamist
I don't wanna defend myself I just wanna know what it means

Look at me I'm so town.

And on other news, Wheme lolhammered scum good job
Now we wait 5 days for Dramonic to do a flip, and then 5 more days after that for night to end