Kidney Mafia (Game Over)

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who am i aligned with seriously

i was sitting on arcade pals all of the other day and was just vla for the actual lynch

there r gooder lynches

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that is ur response? lol

omg shush fr

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gonk/hopkirk/the other ppl i have no reason to tr


hiw many mafia do u think there r left

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gonkbadoop taskmaster - scumbro
SlySly - town
Bins - me town
gerryoat - sadly town
Hopkirk - ???? maybe likely scum
Papa Zito - town
Carcalilly - townread
RadiantCowbells - best friend / enemy
Vecna - narna was town still
TPFKAP - notmafia

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gonk > hop > then u can lynch me if im not right cause thrn Idk

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ok ya i think there r 2 left as well

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gonk > hop > then u can lynch me if im not right cause thrn Idk

sry i just dont see how u think im a higher chance at mafia than these two tho

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also i might just claim cause towns in a better position if scum is forced to kill me for my role lol

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gonk/hopkirk/the other ppl i have no reason to tr


hiw many mafia do u think there r left

2.
Right now a large part of my vote on you is your decision to scumread me without explination when I started to look easy.

its PoE
sorry

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Who cares. Lynch bins

ur annoying

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SK claim (6240)

-.-


I'm not an SK I was joking

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I'm ngl if Bins was SK and made it to 3 way I'd have voted with her.

How sweet


I am town tho

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Gonk I townread narna slot bc of their d1 play with the doc claim + transcend


Tbh that's not a strong reason I realize
Narna could probably pull that off as scum
More from Vecna

But hey that haven't jumped on my wagon yet so pts

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Bins what r ur thoughts on lynching Gonk

Good

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mod is RC rly a me secret voter backlash I don't think he voted me

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***because

iPad autocorrect so baaaad

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VOTE: Bins
Eh, why not.

This bugs me so much considering he didn't like my read on him being "empty"

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Good zizi

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I can't figure out who I prefer

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ok

VOTE: hopkirk

because its better than gonk tbh

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also i just had a scum game end if anyones curious idk if that helps

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inb4 gerry nk to frame me

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zizi plz


gerry maf isnt going to kill u because uve been stubbornly tunneling town all game :#

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No

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Also no hammerino without claim cause I have inno

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Wat how

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If u kno what I am u kno why I'm hesitant and not lying about bring town so let's just lynch someone and let scum kill me

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Gud plan ja

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Thx i knew I could count on u

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Fk off voting RC
Scum would want him dead more than town

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Scum left is prob roleblocker (know this for reasons) and role cop (cause of arcade pals knowing hebi had pt.... Someone mentioned this. Prob RC did)

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Yes

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Wtf is teehee

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Zito lmfao

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Didn't think we'd be able to read torgo

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8)! Anyways I can act tn so scum pls kill me

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There's no point in lynching RC here.


Bins tho. Bins is a fine idea.

wtf r u even listening to what im saying

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ok 1 i tried to get arcade lynched when there were other great wagons to hop on because i thought they were confscum

i literally claimed investigative with an inno on you and youre still treating me like im the best lynch???

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my day 1 play was WRONG not scummy

if i eat rope cause i read game replacement wrong fine but i dont see how wanting to lynch the claimed doc condemns me as his partner?? like he pbbioisly tried to frame me harder w his twilight play


cant believe i have to defend myself lol

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**not lynch

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more explanation for my only townread who betrays me so:

my role made me feel like it was multiball (the amount i was called on this jfc)
as a pr i thought "hey town has two docs??? thank god. make game replacement target a pr (we had a few claimed) and force him to protect them". which was a fine strategy no one listened to.
i couldve checked game n1 and it would have been the better option but he quickhammered himself

i thought arcade pals role was confscum because of my multiball belief. i voted them all througout the day but didnt really want to claim my hidden reasons for believing so so i sort of just repeated that they were scummy and needed to die

when it became clear that i was wrong on the multiball thing (lack of 2 nk) i dropped my arcade read

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oh ya im about to lie about what i claimed


you obviously haven't been reading

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Also no hammerino without claim cause I have inno

Zito lmfao

Didn't think we'd be able to read torgo

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who is ur inno

All this teehee pussyfooting isn't changing my mind at all.

Zito lmfao

z.z

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why would i full claim


trust that ive ensured that if i die nothing goes to the grave w me

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i dont think carca is scum unless town had two huge wagons on scum d1

itd make me feel better
but unlikely

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you really don't have to

honestly just lynch me if hop / gonk arent' scum

I don't want to be in lylo

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vecna's play doesn't read as scum who replaced into this game in narnas slot



ill relook into it tmmr but I really just want this hopkirk lynch and my action

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i crumbed my inno on you early on

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well not crumb but i had you u unexplainably high on all my reads list for no reason esp since you had done nothing really and wouldve been a good candidate for a nullread at best

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how does your voting history beg to differ about my inno crumb? why did i have you as strong town on all my readslist if i didnt have an ACTUAL inno

and also you know very well why a PR wouldnt full claim vs partial. i said im hoping to get nk'd and dont want to get lynched. if scum have a way to work around my role im not trying to give it to them open handed

the fact youre still doubting is super weird and you keep asking for the full claim is super weird. slyslys role mentioned god father and now i have THAT to worry about . GR8

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you know who the townies are anyway so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

this also wasnt true lol due to the fact there actually were multifactions

even i said i suspected multiball

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ok dont take it at face value fine but i cant understand how im still your number one scumread


my play is always reactionary lol but you REALLY cant say that most of it has been.. maybe to these later days yeah but tbh im tired of being tunneled and im stuck on who i think is scum

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youre completely discrediting me and its pretty frustrating

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did you even review the stuff i said lol or are you too confbiased!!!

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are you seriously going to selectively miss my posts where i do mention arcade pals

and yeah lycan fire was literally down my throat so i was also busy FIGHTING HIM off because he was lying about my play re:multiball
also then LUV lied about his role and got lynched

where i said they were pretty much likely scum at this point because of role:

you do realize that ninja pt checker who CHECKED YOU of all people in the game was probably looking for your mason claim to guilty on
like they checked you because you softed PT. it was an easy "guilty"

also maria has been super duper scummy with her hostility

AP scum for role and maria (but honestly I have no exp with maria town this is entirely tonal, you can tell me I'm wrong here)

the only time I used multiball to hold actual weight today was when I realized arcades role could be super scummy if it is

after that i started to realize i was probably wrong and it isnt multiball



the reason i thought it was multiball so bad is because my role returns TOWN vs. NOT TOWN rather than MAFIA vs. NOT MAFIA

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im actually mad

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re why i mentioned multiball again:

also I literally just said it to support a scum read on arcade pals what r u doin

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Item 2 that I wanted to check in Bins' iso:

like he pbbioisly tried to frame me harder w his twilight play

"He" here refers to replacemans. Let's have a look at this pbbiosly framejob.

Spoiler: Bins is fake news

Let's use this as our starting point for "twilight" since that's not so easily defined. Here you thought he was lynched.

if this flips green doc im going vig everyone who didnt listen

Scum in Zach/Bins/LUV too.

Here he includes you in a "scumlist".

I was scum.
Everything I said stands though.

Trans voting from just dislike
Carca being scum
Scum in LUV/Bins/Zach
Fuck you Venca.

over 50% of the players gave up playing properly today because of Trans and just decided to lay low.
Most scum there.

He repeats the "scumlist".

and then.... nothing. That's literally it. He never talks about you at all. He just randomly threw you in with two townies on a list. If he was trying to "frame" you he did a piss poor job of doing it.

That was quick, on to Number Three.

GERRY USED THIS for a reason to scum read LUV and me
Vedith obviously mentioned both LUV and I because we were the ones defending him and he wanted to drag us down with him
not to mention the guy SELFHAMMERED
so scum was probably in a good position, not in my position

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i dont see how the fact that he did it but didnt do it a lot contradicts what i said. i didnt say he "went super hard" trying to frame me. but he did toss my name out and people DID listen to that and use it as reasons to vote who they did

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I hate your iso so much.

Ok, you brought up 3 things in those posts I want to check. This is Thing One.

ok 1 i tried to get arcade lynched when there were other great wagons to hop on because i thought they were confscum

I'm afraid this statement doesn't reflect reality.

Spoiler: Here's why

Here is the height of the Arcade wagon Day 1:

Votecount 1.12

Arcade Pals (8)- Lycanfire, Hopkirk, Zachstralkita, Lil Uzi Vert, gonkbadoop taskmaster, Transcend, Narna, Game Replacement
Carcalilly (3)- grapes, Spiffeh, Bins
Game Replacement (3)- torgonitoh, POWERFUL WARRIOR, hebichan
hebichan (2)- gerryoat, SlySly
gonkbadoop taskmaster (1)- TPFKAP
PeregrineV (1)- Can It
grapes (1)- Carcalilly
Transcend (1)- Arcade Pals

Your reaction?

i'm not sold on arcade scum and this wagon seems shifty af

discredit discredit discredit

yeah i have no interest touching arcade today with a claim like that, they'll have to claim something tomorrow

Here you say you believe the claim. No desire to lynch here. I can quote several more posts where you push hard against the Arcade wagon.

On Day 2:

bins not okay with scum, but okay badman. is because badman? tell me good, because if not good, bad man.

you think arcade pals is a ninja pt tracker aligned with scum to scope out the masons/neighbours/other scum team if it exists, right


honestly
I could believe it
especially cause they checked hebi

but I don't see how ur ~super duper~ sure

I also don't buy the ninja is a scum role

I just played a game as a town ninja role because scum had a tracker,

is real deal



pedit - either its a quote fail or UR TRYING PUT WORDS INTO MY MOUTH

like they crumbed ninja

that's so



what

I'm still seeing 0 desire to lynch Arcade Pals. Later in the day you randomly:

ily2 rc


VOTE: arcade pals


fwiw i was joking but continue i guess

What's interesting, beyond the unexplained 180 on that slot, is what you're actually discussing at this time:

wouldn't rc also be a kingmaker if they were a survivor and haven't figured it out? jesus christ bins what a bad post

well yes but i meant a knowing kingmaker who can just do "lol w/e i win either way"

i mean this looking from a town vs scum perspective not the players in LYLO who he picks between


did u really take issue with that???

You're not pushing Arcade, you're pushing the third parties.

Why does everyone not care anymore?

sry brah i cant defend u but i can sit here on arcade and smile


VOTE: lycan
because this guy didnt even read and realize how wrong he was

Which you follow up on with a vote. Later you switch to the easy LUV wagon.

Early Day 3 you clearly don't think Arcade is scum:

I'm confused on why you think Arcade is scum with their role
if you're the only other faction

You don't really talk about Arcade again, just more 3rd party waffling and then the slide onto the PW wagon.


Day 4, as Arcade is getting strung up, your reaction?

this wagon

So no, absolutely not. You never, ever pushed Arcade Pals. You voted them once when they were in no real danger of being lynched (Day 2 max wagon size: 2), never actually pushed for anyone else to vote them (or even interacted with them at all!), and never expressed suspicion other than that brief vote period ever again. If you "tried to get arcade lynched" you'd have actually pushed that slot, not protected it. If you thought they were "confscum" you wouldn't have moved your vote to LUV or PW, and you wouldn't have been defending the slot later, and you would've joined the wagon Day 4. This is a total lie.

Other two to come.

like jesus christ this is the biggest bs i've seen in a game of mafia

how can you just SKIP over the posts where i do

also the last part is bs

after i realized it wasnt multiball, i thought they were a town PR yeah and even RC (sorry man) said he thought maria was town so i dropped the "maria seems like scum" thing because i didnt kknow if it was just how maria plays / is tonally

why would i have not moved my vote to LUV? he was also confscum but he lied about his role
PW also brought this on themself for lurking



like uuughgadkja

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U bitch u could guiltied me

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im a cop with many 1-shot cop variants that i can use on specific days

for example n1 i was a kidney cop 8)

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but yeah i really dont have any more important information to claim

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I AM SO MAD ZITO

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you are litearlly quoting posts that are contradicting what you are saying i cant even

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im claiming the fact im investigative

i think thats really enough

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So here you've dropped the multiball thing. But you're still scumreading Arcade Pals. Remember you said "when it became clear that i was wrong on the multiball thing (lack of 2 nk) i dropped my arcade read" - this is clearly not true!

I was becoming survivalistic. I have a strong role and Lycan was using the claim that I "wouldn't shut up about multiball" as a reason to vote me. I couldn't just say "HEY MAN, BUT MY ROLE SAYS OTHERWISE!" or else I would just ruin everything. You should understand that.

Also. like. how is this an argument for me being scum. Isn't the fact that I didn't drop my arcade read a good thing? Like I didn't just scumread them for my strong inclination for multiball. I scumread them also for maria. There are more layers to this that you're making it out to be lol

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Here you say that multiball spec hasn't affected your gameview in any way. This is also in direct contradiction to "when it became clear that i was wrong on the multiball thing (lack of 2 nk) i dropped my arcade read"

IN THIS

LITERALLY

THE SAME POST

I SAY

"MULTIBALL SPEC HASNT AFFECTED MY GAME VIEW EXCEPT FOR MY ARCADE PALS READ."
seriouslyw aht the fuck im going to vote you if you keep this up on the small small chance youre a god father

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N1 doesn't count we had a CLAIMED DOC still alive so I thought he blocked a kill

also the 2nk was the main reason for me dropping my multiball fetish
numbers and just purely the claimed survivor team as well

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nothing I have done this game has had multiball factored into it so just shut up

Here you say that multiball spec hasn't affected your gameview in any way. This is also in direct contradiction to "when it became clear that i was wrong on the multiball thing (lack of 2 nk) i dropped my arcade read"

ok not the same post but the post before:

the only time I used multiball to hold actual weight today was when I realized arcades role could be super scummy if it is

the only time I used multiball to hold actual weight today was when I realized arcades role could be super scummy if it is

the only time I used multiball to hold actual weight today was when I realized arcades role could be super scummy if it is

the only time I used multiball to hold actual weight today was when I realized arcades role could be super scummy if it is

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i hate defending myself but jfc that is the worst case i have ever seen


gerry's undisclosed reasons are more tolerable than a case that literally selectively quotes things i say that prove im pretty much NOT SCUM

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I'm showing you lied. You made 3 arguments for why you're town and I showed all 3 are lies. If you're lying to us to convince us you're alignment A you are very likely to be alignment B.

You did drop your Arcade read, you just did it later than you said you did, and for completely different reasons than the ones you stated.

you showed literally 0 are lies and that you cant read iso's for shit because you missed a whole fucking lot

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Arcade Pals (i was voting them all of yesterday but i suppose i will shutup about multiball for now)

the exact moment i dropped my arcade read

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hes seriously making me paranoid that the only reason he wants me dead is so i flip cop and he's conftown and godfather AAAH

how can someone be so unreasonably i hate this game

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Or do you not expect that someone with role reasons to believe something might get mixed up on why and when they're claiming to believe those things?

pretty much this


also im not a constant person, i waffle a lot in games

i probably went from being like
its definitely multiball ARCADE IS DEFS SCUM
to
its probably multiball so like meh
to
maybe i should shut up about multiball and look elsewhere


more than once or twice in the span of a day
i dont know why you're expecting it to be simple moments

youre just missing a lot of quotes needed
but i think my thought progression makes a lot of sense and i had 100% faith that it would make sense to you but not when you twist my words lmfao

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VOTE: bins
I don't like the way shes defending herself rn.

wtf carca

papa zito is literally misquoting me

if youve ever had this happen to you
you know how annoying it is

please dont make this vote without actually having read my response to him to see how wrong he's being

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I really don't know what scum!bins is like, so I have to count on others a little for that.

i just had a scum game finish, you can read it and see that i only get worked up like this as town now (this wasnt the case before i used to get worked up all the time)

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u break my heart

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hey i didnt mean to lurk

that game lasted like 5 irl days that i was VLA for

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no i really dont have much more to give

my role gets progressively better the longer the game goes on

my first two investigatives were useless (kidney, vanilla)

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i dont think its a protown situation to claim the vanilla result and the kidney result has flipped so im gonna hush hush

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i still have an action tonight what

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is everyone in this game antitown

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like seriously

i have a VT result on someone still living. i dont feel like claiming this. i think it only benefits scum to know.
i have a result that PW is not a kidney.
i have a result that papa zito is town.

i get another type of investigative tonight

this is pretty much full claiming??

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uh, you're not. i haven't targetted you

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n1 i had a 1-shot ability to check if someones flavour is "kidney"
i didnt get information on what being a kidney meant or anything

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because im at L-1 ill just fullclaim

tonight I have a flavour cop


which im assuming is my strongest one because everything antitown has a non body part flavour

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can you please unvote i dont want to have gotten so tryhard and worked up for nothing

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like seriously

i have a VT result on someone still living. i dont feel like claiming this. i think it only benefits scum to know.
i have a result that PW is not a kidney.
i have a result that papa zito is town.

i get another type of investigative tonight

this is pretty much full claiming??

it's pretty much not no

how... not... ??

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what else do you want to know

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im the lungs, i have claimed this

i have multiple night specific cop abilities. i only get to use each on the night its specified for.

n1 i had a kidney check ability. i targeted PW (just a scumread i had), i got not a kidney. i didnt really take it to mean anything. seemed like a useless result.
n2 i had a normal cop. i targeted torgo/zito. people were townreading torgo so i thought they werent lynchable but either way i had no read on them. got town (my play does reflect this, even thought i tried to keep it somewhat secret, i did crumb it in a few readslists but having him unreasonably high).
n4 i had a vanilla cop. i targetted carca because they had claimed VT and i was worried about if the claim was a lie. she is a VT.
n6 i have a flavour cop.

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just flavour, i would assume i would return a guilty on zach for all my checks but flavour

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THERE YOU GO. FULL CLAIM.


plz unvote thx

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there is no n3 and n5 ability

dont know why

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in my role PM it is literally a decending list

n1 -...
n2 -...
n4-...

etc

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no no

she's vanilla

im the vanilla cop

this just means she's VT

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no.

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i was confused on why my role even existed for the n1 part

but people were talking about being the "TRUE" kidney so i was like uuhhh what?
i thought there would only be one/two (for the two kidneys in the body) and they would be town

after RC/lycan claimed it made sense

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lycan had the belief that scum needed to kill the kidneys to win


this obviously isnt the case or else RC would just be dead but he isnt

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You win when your faction controls 50% of the votes, or when nothing can prevent this from happening.

also this is the scum wincon

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true, yeah i dont know

i dont think lycan had any basis to what he believed

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i aint no 3p kidney harvester

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anyways im leaving now

im not lying but i am town and pretty frustrated about how this case is being brought up


so plz unvote and ill probably target a scumread tn

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trust that ive ensured that if i die nothing goes to the grave w me

What did you mean by this?

??

my other checks did not have any information that mattered

i had claimed all i wanted

i didnt want scum to know my full role

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sorry lol

she's not confirmed VT

she's confirmed vanilla

thought they terms are interchangeable but obviously not

she could be a goon


this is really just the same position as we were in before

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the*

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what


how is it suspicious

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n4 i had a vanilla cop. i targetted carca because they had claimed VT and i was worried about if the claim was a lie. she is a VT.

**she is vanilla.

i just brain farted and thought VT encompassed all vanilla but lol obviously not

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also i think carca is town -_- despite her vote on me

i dont think scum would claim VT that early

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i honestly am not even mad that thats a possible outcome but its not how it actually is ahahah

if i was worried about lycans weird theory coming a biting me in the butt i wouldnt have claimed the kidney cop

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considering it was likely spiffeh who killed both zach (maybe) and lycan, its just meh

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lycan had NO REASON to believe what he did

if this were true he wouldve died n2 and not n3
hebichan would have never been killed

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Of course not on 5 because only 2 kidneys. shell do it night 6 just to prove her roll.

Vote: Bins

i pull a random body part out of thin air and stick it on someone? uhh???

like its not going to be kidney

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... you think theres only one scum left?

it can be

2 scum, 3 town, then scum kill to make it 2:2

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no you are a flavor cop, not a kidney checker.

i uh


no im not


but ok

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im the lungs, i have claimed this

i have multiple night specific cop abilities. i only get to use each on the night its specified for.

n1 i had a kidney check ability.
n2 i had a normal cop.
n4 i had a vanilla cop.
n6 i have a flavour cop.

One thing that's really bothering me about this is the order. I feel if these are weirdly gated by nights then you should get the stronger cop checks as a reward for living longer. But normal cop is stronger than vanilla so why is it n2, and why is there a gap?

The other thing is I don't see how the kidney check benefits town at all.

i dont know

and i dont know

man

I DONT KNOW

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im not lying

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... ? i mean there is a nontown faction that was kidneys

i think it was just a useless role

i dont know why i have it either
if i thought it was scummy and i was scum i wouldnt have claimed it

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i just know i wouldve gotten a neg. result on zach's role each time

i thought that was interesting after he flipped




i probably would have gotten a "Lycan is KIDNEY." for the kidney check yes

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zach was like the ultra-miller to my role


think of the kidney cop as a Private investigator for 3p faction KIDNEY


pedit - what
i mean yeah i hid my role initially because i didnt want to disclose full details because i didnt want scum to know if they should be worried or not
i mean i would have just LIED when i claimed
i could have just been like "oh ya n1 i was just a ___ cop" -fake result-

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ive been secretive this game but you being a town PR should understand this. youve hidden your role too. but i havent lied at all.

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yes? which is nice. not a horrid counter to me.

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i only had one inno

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no one actually buys the theory yo

im more likely to just be scum than to be whatever youre claiming

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ok

i dont really care anymore id just prefer hopkirk today and action tn

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VOTE: tpfkap


carca im town plzzzzzzz

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hop not knowing AP actually didnt flip pt checker is points to him

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yeah. I sort of gave up at the end and started just throwing BS in the air because it was 3v18 which is ABSURD for the mafia.

either way gg \o/

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with how tiny the scumteam was you can understand why they kept scumclaiming / didn't care about the game.

ja



also no hidden kidney mechanic but I wanted it to be real so I memed it out

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BTW bins u still owe me food for how much I defended you

no


:v

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BTW bins u still owe me food for how much I defended you

no


:v



pedit - DID I JUST GET A WARNING FOR NO MULTIPOSTS WHAT IS THIS

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o

that's why

I get it