TBD Mafia 2 [game over]

[MarioManiac4]

Hi.

[MarioManiac4]

This game is going to end up being four 5-player scum factions who are under the impression that they are the only scum faction.

[MarioManiac4]

Question: should mulch gain a bulletproof vest for every 200 posts he does y/n

"Should Mulch be modkilled if he makes over 200 posts in one game day?"

[MarioManiac4]

yes, but I don't think he'd appreciate such a submission

I guess I should figure that yes/no will be accepted as multiple choice

but, eeesh, that seems so boring

I guess everyone is going to know that any yes/no answers were not submitted by me, OHWELL!

Boring really only depends on what the question was.

Why does it matter who submitted what questions?

[MarioManiac4]

No idea why that was in Q+. Oh well.

[MarioManiac4]

I would think that it would apply to the responses, rather than the questions. But thanks for the responses. I'll probably wait for our Role PMs before I do anything serious.

[MarioManiac4]

I signed up for this thinking it'd be a mafia game. This questionnaire has proven me wrong.

[MarioManiac4]

poke bulbazak with a lollipop

[MarioManiac4]

i crafted my answers to make the game as playable as possible

if i find out who made the "15/16/17/18 vigilantes" question i'm policy lynching them d1

[MarioManiac4]

we get nineteen vigilantes

[MarioManiac4]

Wait do people normally

not

regret signing up for a mafia game?

[MarioManiac4]

Spoiler: gif

[MarioManiac4]

no I'm not kidnapping you.
you just get to sit at the bottom of the cave and think about what you've done.

[MarioManiac4]

Well trapping someone in a cave could be kidnapping if they can't get out?

[MarioManiac4]

VOTE: riot

[MarioManiac4]

also lets speedlynch mulch

[MarioManiac4]

I change my avatar pretty regularly between pokemon I like.

[MarioManiac4]

VOTE: Lycanfire

pedit: I think I might know who he is

[MarioManiac4]

If I had a post restriction I would only use it to try and find anyone who supported a post restriction and votepark them until all of them died tbh.

[MarioManiac4]

I feel like this game is trying to be serious and a joke at the same time.

[MarioManiac4]

question for next game:

"should xyzzy ignore everyone who suggested a post restriction and replace where he would have had post restrictions with actual roles"
answers:
yes
yes

question for next game:

"should xyzzy ignore everyone who suggested a post restriction and replace where he would have had post restrictions with actual roles"
answers:
yes
yes

question for next game:

"should xyzzy ignore everyone who suggested a post restriction and replace where he would have had post restrictions with actual roles"
answers:
yes
yes

question for next game:

"should xyzzy ignore everyone who suggested a post restriction and replace where he would have had post restrictions with actual roles"
answers:
yes
yes

question for next game:

"should xyzzy ignore everyone who suggested a post restriction and replace where he would have had post restrictions with actual roles"
answers:
yes
yes

question for next game:

"should xyzzy ignore everyone who suggested a post restriction and replace where he would have had post restrictions with actual roles"
answers:
yes
yes

[MarioManiac4]

VOTE: Toby Determined

Probably an alt provided to a player in the game who is probably not town. This can be a thing I guess.

[MarioManiac4]

1.can
2. we
3. talk
4. about
5. how
6. we've
7. already
8. had
9. a
10. scumclaim
11. guys

Im limited

to 10 a post

VOTE: SnarkySnowman

[MarioManiac4]

Wait lol
UNVOTE:

[MarioManiac4]

VOTE: mariomaniac agree 603

do you believe what i did was actually scummy? assuming yes, why?

[MarioManiac4]

not reading

well i was reading but i was isoing you and i forgot we had that huge pregame thing

but that's a fair response so w/e

[MarioManiac4]

Someone asked what name I put for the mafia; it was simply "Mafia".

MM4 please describe what your thought process was that led you to go from posting #459 to #540?

459 was just kinda a random vote. I didn't think anything of anyone at that point.
470 was because post restrictions are incredibly annoying.
523 was because the game has post restrictions and possibly has 15+ vigilantes but also is supposed to kinda be like a normal game which is ???
539 was basically 470 and 523 morphing into a singular entity.
540 was because secret alts are kinda a "special role" sort of thing which I imagine are more likely to not be aligned with town because town is seen as a boring and standard alignment most of the time, since it's the most common. not strong evidence but meh.

[MarioManiac4]

i don't get why snarky thinks that what i did then would be stirring up trouble and i thought nobody would remember the pregame. is there actually any evidence for that over what i've said?
also snarky why do you post 3 consecutive 2-word posts instead of one 6-word post?

i don't know if mulch is town or scum but i do know that he's not a wish granter lol

[MarioManiac4]

mulch fakeclaims at least ten times every game

[MarioManiac4]

that's true i guess i'm just really bad at post restrictions lol

[MarioManiac4]

10 characters is completely unreasonable to be fair.
I still feel like Toby is not!town but I'm not so sure lynching him instead of his main will accomplish anything?

I don't think policy lynching Mulch is necessary.

[MarioManiac4]

If the mod is playing the game... I uh don't really think that is a thing? Like if Toby is an alt of the mod I'm guessing they're just going to do nothing for the entire game. I just kinda doubt the backup mod would be incorportated into the game at all.

I think that a player is playing two slots and that player is not town but I don't think lynching Toby will kill that player.

[MarioManiac4]

can we not?

[MarioManiac4]

VOTE: Toby Determined

Can we do it??????

[MarioManiac4]

He is openly trolling.

[MarioManiac4]

Votes for them clearly count.

I don't like the Bulbazak lynch. I don't think he's "playing dumb"- regardless of if you agree with him his stances seem realistic enough.

[MarioManiac4]

VOTE: Alexander

[MarioManiac4]

VOTE: Alexander

VOTE: Lycanfire

No idea why my phone did that.

[MarioManiac4]

Talking about mechanics doesn't find scum. Lazily hopping on the easy wagon doesn't find scum.

doesn't find scum but it can kill scum
also you're wrong about or misrepresenting what's happening; the lynch isn't "lazy" it's "there are two realistic lynch options now and my alternative votes have done nothing, so let's vote the major wagon we think is scummiest to get a lynch"

[MarioManiac4]

VOTE: SlySly

[MarioManiac4]

If sly flips town we lynch actiondan with fire.


@mario are you town?

No.

[MarioManiac4]

This game is kinda like a large theme at endgame.
VOTE: Lycanfire

[MarioManiac4]

hi.
vaxkiller's theory is kinda ridiculous. i think it's pretty obvious who toby is at this point anyway. toby determined is not town and that's ~what matters~

snarkysnowman is likely scum- i feel like he's focusing on toby/survivor in his content. i think it was fairly obvious toby wasn't a double jester anyway.

[MarioManiac4]

hi.
vaxkiller's theory is kinda ridiculous. i think it's pretty obvious who toby is at this point anyway. toby determined is not town and that's ~what matters~

snarkysnowman is likely scum- i feel like he's focusing on toby/survivor in his content. i think it was fairly obvious toby wasn't a double jester anyway.

actually replace "likely scum" with "probably more likely to be scum than other people" because i don't actually have strong reads and this reads like i do

[MarioManiac4]

i think toby is alisae

@mario

Why is it "kinda" ridiculous? Is there some truth to my thoughts?

Well, your comment implied that I am a human being who is capable of typing, which is true. The rest of it makes no sense though; two players getting prodded at the same time does not mean they are the same person.

[MarioManiac4]

VOTE: Mario

all you have done so far is towncase me

[MarioManiac4]

Bulbazak where does your mysterious Mario townread come from? It seems like all the sketchy people have sketchy interactions with Mario, and this makes me happy.

Acceptable votes at the moment:

EddieFenix
Bulbazak
MarioMcSquirrelface

You're gonna need to explain why you have this "comprehensive" list. It's really flimsy. Bulb is doing what I expect him to do as town, so I have good vibes that he's town, I'm currently taking time to ask questions so I can sort. And Mario? Wut? Why?

I don't agree with all his reads tho. Like I think bulb is town and Mario is town (weaker read), and dunker bird is not town for what has been posted at the least. I want to check out Eddie once more because it did ping me though earlier

Yay more questionable Mario interactions. Desp and Snarky could each work with Mario too, in different bussy ways.

neither of these are "questionable"; they are literally "explain your read" and "i have a townlean on x" consecutively

[MarioManiac4]

Vax why do you want me dead?

I could vote Llama but I'm not convinced rn. I'll probably end up doing so anyway.

[MarioManiac4]

Vax why do you want me dead?

Really? I have to spell it out for you? 1 less scum.

This is a bad answer. Please try again.

[MarioManiac4]

Vax why do you want me dead?

Really? I have to spell it out for you? 1 less scum.

This is a bad answer. Please try again.

If I guess correctly will you vote yourself?

2 less scum?

VOTE: Vaxkiller

[MarioManiac4]

You know what it is I want and you know that it is a perfectly reasonable thing to ask for. Stop dancing around and give it to me.

[MarioManiac4]

why are you pushing lynches on people because they haven't conviced you they're town?

[MarioManiac4]

I could flashwagon SlySly.

[MarioManiac4]

I am now a miller.

[MarioManiac4]

btw, 2 scum teams, that's why 2 deaths, I figure

maria claims miller now that there's a cop on the board, how convenient

yes because scum has no way to deal with a cop claim other than a miller claim

[MarioManiac4]

VOTE: Zelda

[MarioManiac4]

At the moment I want a mario lynch as well. Vecna is close behind. Bulba pings back and forth for me and I would rather figure that out later.

A few others I would be willing to jump onto even tho im not as confident about them.

And I doubt were going to get our Mario lynch

Vax why do you want me dead?

Really? I have to spell it out for you? 1 less scum.

ugh

VOTE: Bulba

This is a scum post trying to use Vax as a way to line up lynches.

inclined to agree here

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I change my avatar pretty regularly between pokemon I like.

You 'mon-ster.

...dammit.

get out

"to be determined" makes sense w/ toby doing something D1.
but what is "revenge of the fallen"? is that, like, the dead giving out negative utility roles? vaxkiller would do that to me.

[MarioManiac4]

due to some issues that came up with me being offline for awhile, I'm extending the night 1 deadline by 24 hours. night 1 will now end in (expired on 2017-09-27 11:30:00).

^ this could be the period in which mulch and vaxkiller died and submitted their negative utility requests

[MarioManiac4]

I've got mario, srceenplay, dunker, as likely scum

mario is laying back too much, and then claimed miller after a cop claim
srceenplay has been scumtastic all game as has dunker, would have easily gone after them yesterday if I hadn't been so sure of bulba

why are other people who have been "laying back" just as much as, if not more than, me less scummy than i am?
also negative utility claims have been popping up all over d2 and miller claim is not an efficient way to handle a cop claim i do not see why you keep claiming that makes me scum

[MarioManiac4]

VOTE: zoe
this may be my own faction but this is stalling the game so zzzzz

[MarioManiac4]

So my vote ultimately probably doesn't matter here but it will go to either Dunkers or drealmerz. Probably drealmerz tbh, because him "assuming" that his guilty on Bulba was accurate in this game of all games is

[MarioManiac4]

maybe scum didn't kill vax we don't actually know

[MarioManiac4]

meh I'm not buying drealmerz.

bulbz is scum

it's not confbias

I'm telling everyone you are scum

I'm a cop

Like is this the reaction of a cop who got a guilty reaction in a game that is probably bastard to some extent? Probably not. (Especially since he apparently voted to have hidden mechanics/passive roles in the game.) Also he's pushing on me because I claimed miller after a cop claim which is ??? since that is like a really weird way to handle a cop claim, ESPECIALLY if it is singleball and I knew bulba was probtown. Since when is scum's reaction to a cop claim "oh lol I'm miller?" This doesn't clear me really because I could do it as scum, but I'm confused at drealmerz claiming that it actually is. I don't like his reads in 2123; saying I've been "laying back" is really strange when you consider that that statement applies to a lot of players in this game, and he says that he's scumreading two people for being "scumtastic" which is really meh.

VOTE: drealmerz7

i like this today.

[MarioManiac4]

also apparently this is a necessary announcement
*ahem*

I am not a serial killer, there is no evidence I am a serial killer. Please stop referring to me as if I am a confirmed serial killer.

okay, thank you for your time

[MarioManiac4]

I am not a serial killer, there is no evidence I am a serial killer.

caught for bad reasons huh

no

[MarioManiac4]

You forgot the "bulletproof investigation-immune ninja strongman" part.

[MarioManiac4]

You forgot the "bulletproof investigation-immune ninja strongman" part.

That doesn't change the fact I still sk read you

Does this

look like a serial killer to you?

[MarioManiac4]

HEAL: Not_Mafia
this is interesting to an extent i suppose.

[MarioManiac4]

Alright.... Legit lost on the hurt/heal thing.....

nothing else is really happening and the mod registers it, so who knows, maybe it has an effect?

[MarioManiac4]

since bulbazak was fruit vendor i'm not sure whether i'd rather have him or vax back rn

[MarioManiac4]

that's really only a question that scum would ask...

i don't like this

[MarioManiac4]

it's a really stretchy thing to say and the tone seems fake to me.

[MarioManiac4]

drealmerz7
dunkerdoodles

[MarioManiac4]

VOTE: SnarkySnowman

the game has stagnated and 3p cop seems like its weird enough w/o a modifier. even if vecna is scum i believe the claim.

[MarioManiac4]

i was jester gg guys

VOTE: dunkerdoodles

the ss vote was bad i guess for the reasoning i gave although i wouldnt mind that lynch generally