A Mid-Scummer Night's Dream - D.S. al Fine

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sup.

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man you guys sure did argue about roles today.

i assume that days 1 and 2 were not as clusterfucky?

can someone give me an approximation of how the fuck much time we have left because i sorta feel like thats information i need and its not at all annoying to not know it

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or just tell me what to vote or whatever so i dont have to read.

i like that potential option as well.

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ok apparently a quarter of the time is way less time than i thought it was.

so im skipping day 2 then.

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vote: maria

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probably because i read days 1 and 3 and then disregarded all of that and picked a name out of a hat.

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like what kind of question is that. because i think shes more likely scum than desp or lld.

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because i thought her self vote thing today was atrocious.

because she did that notepad thing and as soon as someone said they didnt like it she completely bailed and it struck me as odd.

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would you like to sell me on your wagon or something?

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If it were me i'd say Vote Desp, but that's not fair.

yeah but when you open with this it sorta lessens how i feel about your read jsyk.

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If it were me i'd say Vote Desp, but that's not fair.

yeah but when you open with this it sorta lessens how i feel about your read jsyk.

That was sorta me saying "You shouldnt just blindly sheep me" which is why i provided my reasoning so you could form your own conclusion, you not following is what i assume, you not agreeing with my conclusion.

okay but if i say someone tell me who to vote so i dont have to read and instead of you saying "vote desp" you say "read 7 isos and consider voting desp if you also reach this conclusion" it feels like you dont want responsibility for my vote going the way you presumably want it too.

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uh huh.

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so are we lynching maria or sakura today or whats going on?

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ugh, please read, it's been like 12 short posts

i did read the posts.

but since they were stupid im pointedly ignoring them.

thanks for your concern.

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ugh, please read, it's been like 12 short posts

i did read the posts.

but since they were stupid im pointedly ignoring them.

thanks for your concern.

ok then I'm not sure I get where your "what's going on" post is coming from

we're playing mafia

we're trying to find scum

some of us are displeased at LLD's play to a high degree

I'm inclined to agree that we could just lynch maria today and let LLD have 1 more Day

what do you think about the gamestate? what's going on with you?

oh well the deal with that was originally the post ended "or are we all gonna sit around and ask really stupid questions instead."

and then i realized that everyone was already doing that so i deleted it and put or whats going on.

but whats going on really meant

can you all stop being stupid.

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sorry for any confusion.

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yeah it started at the

"hiders should claim their targets after claiming so that the mafia can 2-1 us with a nk and we cant get any more clears" conference

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and then it continued at the "but we gave you a group of 3 people and so if you died we only really need to waste 2 mislynches we dont have" webinar.

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and then concluded at the "hurr durr i dont understand mafia at all" luncheon.

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1) I'm going to target someone I think is scum (not null, scum) and try to die so I save town a lynch and get back to evens
2) I'm going to target someone I think is town but EVERYONE ELSE thinks is scum (the list of 3 seems like a generically obvious set there to be sorting from), so that either I die (which puts the game back at odds), or I clear someone who had solid odds of falling into being the final mislynch, and who (if the watcher was clever) might well be a watcher target and therefore I could be confirmed

like legitimately what the fuck is this.

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okay im not paying attention.

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Well of course, it's YOUR vote, so it's supposed to be YOUR responsibility.
Anyway I wanted to know if you agreed with the conclusion or not, why, etc. But it seems like you keep dodging the actual question and focusing on that line anyway.
So, dont mind me, im just gonna stay here voting scum while you guys continue to argue near EoD.

I mean I guess I could also vote TWIE following my Syry read, but Desp has escaped rope for so many days already...

and these are town posts.

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im pretty sure im just a vt

role is dreamer

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he did

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The Smith hide makes no sense. The fact no one's question it also makes no sense.

wow yeah no one talked about this for three days.

and it wasnt a waste of time.

and it doesnt seem like thats the reason youre bringing it up again at all.

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like lynch her if you want but fuck if the conversation about what our claimed hider should have done last night wasnt possibly the stupidest thing ive ever read.

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ceph whos scum other than maria?

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are you scumreading maria more or are you just more interested in the extra night action if lld turns out to be town?

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are you scumreading maria more or are you just more interested in the extra night action if lld turns out to be town?

the second one

mmk

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Ugh id still rather vote Maria though. I'll vote dreal over nl though, if lld and reg are town we're going to end up back on odds anyway.

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Vote: dreal

I think this is l-1

Also remind me to never join a game with abstract deadlines again.

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vote: maria

l-1 for this wagon instead.

much happier with this lynch.

will swap back if i have to.

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we may as well take another dream

maybe theyll actually help at some point

i kinda like this but if lld is town she has to stop hiding cause we lose our extra death on a nl.

so were losing some utility anyway.

unless were *sure* its only 3 scum which i dont think ive ever played a large with 3 scum.

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..how much town power would you consider downside masons to be?

like not incredibly a lot right?

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i kinda like this but if lld is town she has to stop hiding cause we lose our extra death on a nl.
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or i guess she could hide to try and avoid a nk but not attempt to check anyone new.

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fuck

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Can whoever got the watcher shot please claim?

actually if this is what we want shouldnt we be making sakura claim this?

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D1 was regfan...
D2 was NMS...
D3 was Brian...
D4 was mhsmith...

I literally...
cant believe it myself...
every single time...
the person i target has died...
except for regfan...
i know the dream was global...
but i had already a target set anyway...
and didnt feel like switching it...

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hebi what do you think the chances of a wagon actually going through on dreal today?

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^ like this is the only hard no you can have and still have the wagon go through.

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With 8 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

8 - Dreal = 7

7 - Serra = 6

6 - anyone else = 5

Let me know if you have any more basic math questions.

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hebi what do you think the chances of a wagon actually going through on dreal today?

Not high, but I want to try. I'm not just going to give up like everyone else.

i guess i dont see waiting and hoping we get a good dream as giving up.

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hey, thanks for the reminder, I am going to eat some propolis

I'm just gonna prod dodge for now....
Sorry still not in a good mood...

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If we NL, LLd cant hude, she cant hide regardless, if shes town and hides, good chance of loss right there.

yeah basically the only reason she should hide was try try and dodge the kill if we lynched incorrectly today.

but attempting to shoot a hider seems like a really stupid thing for scum to do.

so theres no reason for her to hide.

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what the fuck is happening in this thread now?

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what the fuck is happening in this thread now?

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actually to be fair this discussion is way better than the last one i came back too

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im sorry i didnt have anything to add to "hebi is scum because japanese"

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im sorry i didnt have anything to add to "hebi is scum because japanese"

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Nah to be fair though there's been quite a bit to comment on and you just gave "if these people won't vote for a wagon we can't lynch" IIOA

you're right.

because i thought we werent lynching.

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And that didn't set off a: 'hey I haven't really contributed to this game at all so maybe now is a good time to go over stuff and get involved'?

not really.

cause now i had an extra day for that.

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my only concern with voting lld is that if shes scum i dont know what the point of the global roleblock was.

but like.

on the other hand.

i dont know what the point of her role is if shes claiming that shes a commuter with a downside either.

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i just dont understand where the town power is in this setup at all.

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i liked it better when we were getting another dream ability though

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I'm thinking, with the immobility and inactivity of everything, perhaps scum feels like they have a win in the bag as long as 1 of them doesn't get lynched today? so they're cool either NLing or lynching me and aren't going to sweat it either way and potentially expose themselves? I don't know...

This thought comes from the thought that, as I look at the VC, I realize that if I were not the (only) wagon I'd be thinking the person that is the (only) wagon, sitting with a couple votes, that hasn't gone anywhere for days, is most likely scum who isn't getting bused and scum are just waiting for ppl to shift elsewhere.

But I know I'm not scum so I'm thinking "why aren't I getting pushed as the ML more?", and so ya, that is where the first thought above came from

i kinda thought this post was like nightmarishly bad too.

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get it.

nightmarishly.

like dreams.

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but evil.

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cause like nightmares are the bad versions of dreams.

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because it completely ignores the context of the day where there arent enough votes on the table to lynch you just so you can post your conclusion.

because the argument you put forward is "hey i know my wagon looks exactly like a wagon on scum and thats why i must be town"

the post looks like it just exists so you have something to point at and go look im arguing that im town now like town people are wont to do.

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oh im sorry i wrote them in the wrong order.

you put.

im town because i havent been lynched yet

even though my wagon looks exactly like a wagon on scum.

not

"hey i know my wagon looks exactly like a wagon on scum and thats why i must be town"

completely baseless on my part.

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lolk

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colored vote counts wheeee!

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wow you might be scum for that because october is not almost christmas

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i think the timing of when people start saying almost christmas is as good an indicator of scum level as crayola vote counts tbh.

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youve probably already started listening to christmas music too

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its too late ceph.

ive seen through

the lies of the jedi

your lies.

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pretend i didnt obviously make this in paint at work.

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TWIE, does this usually work for you as scum?

come into the thread and make meaningless semi-joke posts to try and get some charisma points or whatever it is you've been doing since you came into the game?

actually i do this more often as town believe it or not.

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oh i see weve covered that already.

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tbh i don't know why he plays mafia but i find it amusing more often than not

okay first of all how dare you.

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plus i know you were in some of the games where i wall posted and shit before i started playing like this instead.

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you know the weird part is dreal already played with me once where he nked me because he figured out why i was playing like this.

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Subject: Pick Your Power: Double Deck (GAME OVER)

your behavior is actually what made me want to kill you, TWIE, I was like "what is he doing with this shit-talking? ohhh...he's trying to get SR / get left in the game, well that can't happen then!"

Subject: Pick Your Power: Double Deck (SCUM PT)

yeah it was a hard call on whether to do TWIE or wait for grey tonight

took a gamble because the gamestate was stagnating and that is dangerous too

and who knows what TWIE would have come out with, he could have come out with a case against you and me or someshit, who knows

I didn't like his silence and didn't know how long it might last/if he'd just keep up with his trolling or get into the game, couldn't risk him getting into it because it was an unknown factor

can't push grey too hard though because it will become obvious that scum are afraid of his vig. (you especially)

just have to let maxous/gerry/fishy dictate how things go and be on board

is.

that.

so.

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Subject: Pick Your Power: Double Deck (SCUM PT)

TWIE is never getting lynched

we kill him now and get the dunnstral lynch and then move on to 2nd lynch or we wait until the dunnstral lynch goes through, see where he starts to lean, and then maybe kill him

yeah thats probably true

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lol.

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what the fuck is happening in this thread now?

dont worry guys im here now

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i guess that comes down to whether i believe you're a hider or not i guess.

but fucking nothing about this game makes sense with this fucking dream today so...

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someone explain to me.

how if town has no power.

the dreams can possibly be negative utility.

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because it doesnt make any fucking sense.

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but i dont think the team of [ceph, math, dreal] is accurate.

so i guess i kinda dont believe you're an actual hider.

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because it doesnt make any fucking sense.

maybe there's only 2 scum left?

ive never played a large with 3 scum.

ever.

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global rb doesnt make any sense either though either to shut down dreams that can be negative utility.

like what the fuck.

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if dreams are randomly bad or good.

and given out randomly or based on 1 random persons reads.

like could they be any more nerfed?

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on and plus scum can just choose to not have 1.

surprise!

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so someone.

explain to me.

where the town power is in this setup.

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like masons are supposed to be a lot of power in a setup.

but when both of them die at the same time that doesnt really count.

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if lld is an actual hider it like... kinda makes sense?

but i dont like what that does to my scum pool.

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if the only info smith has to work with is "1 shot ability"

"this affects tomorrow"

like... what is that supposed to do.

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i just dont know whats going on tbh

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honestly having an actual negative dream fucking ruined everything i thought about this game.

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I consider not knowing what my vote is going to do as an extreme negative.

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I mean fuck without a scum lynch yesterday would have been autoloss

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huh

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you could have just said huh instead.

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what the fuck is happening in this thread now?

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God damn i hate scum.