The Mod Is Mafia (Game Over)

[Smocaine]

Mulch is scummy.

[Smocaine]

Mulch is scummy.

Why? I think I'm null right now

It's a pre-game scummy kind of thing.

[Smocaine]

Look at me I'm so null!

[Smocaine]

VOTE: Mulch

[Smocaine]

Did you just scumslip? You just accused me of lying ans then said you thought mastina was messing with my points to make me look better. How would you know that if you thought I was lying?

[Smocaine]

Not_Mafia outplayed Hebichan, but I don't want to lynch her yet.

[Smocaine]

Lynch both Mulch and Moonlight lol.

[Smocaine]

Did you just scumslip? You just accused me of lying ans then said you thought mastina was messing with my points to make me look better. How would you know that if you thought I was lying?

[Smocaine]

You come across a stray Mulch on the side of the road. It's heaving and notice a strange rope around it's neck. The poor thing seems to be in a lot of pain. Do you a) tighten the rope, or b) ignore it, hoping the cute little thing until it stops getting attention.

[Smocaine]

Silly me, I forgot an important part of the premise. You make this decision knowing that Nosferatu is town.

[Smocaine]

Christ, that's a disturbing metaphor. I don't even get it.

-Key

a, b, or c bud.

[Smocaine]

Hebichan, are you familiar with the term 'obvscum'?

[Smocaine]

Mulch is the obvscum, not you or moonlight. You know what must be done.

[Smocaine]

Use cmd vote: Mulch to indicate a kill on mefia.

[Smocaine]

test

[Smocaine]

Mastina has crazy mod powers wtf.

[Smocaine]

(Ooh, give you up)

[Smocaine]

Never gonna give

[Smocaine]

Like I feel like there was some scum plan here whereby Mastina was supposed to harass Mulch and that was supposed to make him look town but it's having the exact opposite effect.
I don't think that they even know each other out of game: I don't know why that's her key focus. Both cut segments of the game were made to look like jokes and both cut significant points against Mulch. Like he's called it 'spewing him as town' but the constant editing of posts has been super pro-Mulch in execution and making a rickroll out of all the points that I made against him and all of the back and forth (which also takes away stuff that people can read and see it's not a bus later) just feels so horrible.

I don't think that Mastina ever does what she's been doing if Mulch was town.

VOTE: Mulch

If it's making Mulch look worse, would it not be playing to her wincon?

[Smocaine]

Did you just scumslip? You just accused me of lying ans then said you thought mastina was messing with my points to make me look better. How would you know that if you thought I was lying?

[Smocaine]

Sheep my scumteam guiys, go town!

[Smocaine]

Also Smocaine you're entirely missing the point.
It's not about what the effects of Mastina's actions are or aren't.
It's about the fact that Mastina is singling out Mulch for constant edits in the early game: when she has no reason to especially care about him.
Yes, the end result has been to get him scumread but if you look at his reaction he clearly expected to be townread for being harassed and claimed spewed so you're essentially arguing that Mastina wouldn't have done it because it didn't work.
I think it's pretty clear based on both of their plays today that they thought they'd get away with it. And the cutting out my original case from the game hands down has no purpose unless Mulch is scum.

Like it's played to look like a rickroll meme but as executed it cut out a bunch of Mulch's old scummy posts and the original case that I made against him which is far more coherent and conclusive than my last.

I've done my job: I think that Mulch's play has been obviously scum and Mastina's interactions with him are exactly what I'd expect from her before she catches on to how she's interpreted: overfavouring edits on her team and not on town.
The fact that we haven't been overly screwed with since the beginning of the game suggests that given that me and Titus would presumably be one of the first targets.

Thanks for elaborating! I was thinking something similar since Mulch didn't say anything about their 433 getting deleted to make his 432 get edited on the dl.

[Smocaine]

Shh they'll figure out it was a bus

Lynch both Mulch and Moonlight lol.

[Smocaine]

Tunneling town on rvs much worse than self voting as town imo

It's actually a read from pre-game, so pre-rvs. Keep trying to discredit me though, it's cute.

[Smocaine]

If I flip town you'll self vote tmrw RC?

Scummy post.

[Smocaine]

Getting lynched at 170 posts on d1. Ouch.

[Smocaine]

Getting lynched at 170 posts on d1. Ouch.

Not surprising, have been lynched at 600 posts day 1.

Was you scum? Linky?

[Smocaine]

VOTE: Mulch

And if you ask me how I'm feeling (Mastina edit, post possibly about mulch?)

So far Yume is hinting scum.

can you tell me why that is and do you have any other opinions?

Mario I am scum

i know

not this shit again

^People pushing Mulch right before

i'm pretty null on you actually

odd progression on Mulch here. MM?

[Smocaine]

If you help me lynch Mulch, I'll give you proofs that Hebi is town.

[Smocaine]

I can't today ;_;

[Smocaine]

I volunteer to self vote if you flip blue Mulch.

[Smocaine]

This is so town holy fuck lmao.

[Smocaine]

This is so town holy fuck lmao.

*this is so scum
VOTE: Mastina
VOTE: Mulch

[Smocaine]

I'm just letting the post speak for itself, twice.

[Smocaine]

This is so scum holy fuck lmao.

Like I said bro, you are lower skill level than ~75% of players here. You don't know how to play the game properly, and do not know how to discern what is a playstyle or writing style difference and what is actually scum indicative.

Tons of town are LAMIST. It's sort of how I play. Once you get more experience, youll learn that the only try common thread between all scum is their mindset. Some lurk, some are confident. Some low post, some high post. Some have great tone, some don't. Some care about how they are perceived, some just play with an IDGAF style. But the one link that unites all scum is whether they truly believe what they are saying.

If you are so townie, whys you getting lynched?

[Smocaine]

Seriously though, why is Mulch lecturing me about self meta and scumplay instead of towning?

[Smocaine]

wHY IS THERE RESISTANCE TO VOTING MULCH?

[Smocaine]

I feel like we are in a newbie game.

Everyone use your words...why are you scumreading who you are?

okay, here's my case of sorts:
hebichan started off the day really scummy, you're just going to have to take my word on this or recall that yourself, because unfortunately a decent amount of posts have been deleted there. But since then all hebichan has really done is lurk and hide. Mulch, the other main wagon, has been scummy as well, BUT Mulch is actively providing content and while the content isn't great, at least he's making an effort.
The problem for him is that your ordinary wagons gain traction in two main ways: the wagonee (is that a word?) giving people ammunition or deadline approaching. And so for hebichan lurking is the perfect strategy, because at that point in the day people were not ready to lynch somebody and now hebichan can simply coast under the radar letting her wagon slowly dissipate while people like Mulch gain traction because they are actively doing something.
At this point I don't think Mulch's posting is to the extreme that he is a detriment to the town. As a result of this, I think we can clearly conclude that it would be in our best interest to let the active person, who is trying, live and kill off the scummy lurker or at least put enough pressure on her to get her to start posting more content.

So VOTE: hebichan

Being mafia is a detriment to the town.

[Smocaine]

I think Hebi is town. Overreacting to early votes is null.

[Smocaine]

The ball is in my court, lets lynch them with it.

[Smocaine]

Woot, my unvote helped us avoid a hammer.

VOTE: yume

Get baited.

you know what you must do.

[Smocaine]

Why is Mulch being lynched btw?

scummy tone, anti-town levels of posting, and his reactions to Mastina don't read like it happened organically. How do you feel about your Camn vote?

[Smocaine]

I thought his (Mulch's) self-vote was towny, I don't remember him doing that as scum. What do you think?

With the way Mulch went about self voting, I doubt town would pay any extra attention to his reads (I know I'm not). He was saying he wanted followers after his death, but isn't convincing people. Instead he lobs a fuckton of ate at the town like a scumfuck.

[Smocaine]

stay newfriend :d

[Smocaine]

What did you intend to do with your self vote? What was the point your were getting across?

[Smocaine]

scummy tone

BAD WAY TO READ PEOPLE ESPECIALlly FROM BAD TONE READERS LIKE YOU

, anti-town levels of posting

NOT SCUM INDICATIVE

, and his reactions to Mastina don't read like it happened organically

JUSt bECAUSE I AM ANIMATED DOES NOT MAKE ME DININGENUINE

EBWOP

Look at you spoof the spelling and capitalization of a post and it's edit to get the emotion across. Go gettem scumr!

[Smocaine]

Mulch, you roll dice like that often?

[Smocaine]

I remember one of these posts being about how MM4 is unengaged this game and how this points scum!him.

I saw that one. It'd make more sense for Scum!Mastina to delete posts about scumreads of townies to misdirect town than to delete posts about scumreads of maf that will just get repeated. MM4 is town. Thoughts?

[Smocaine]

I'll join any wagon that isn't Hebichan if it takes over, but my first pick is obviously Mulch still.

[Smocaine]

If I help you lynch Hebi, will you vig me tonight?

[Smocaine]

VOTE: Hebichan

[Smocaine]

I volunteer to self vote if you flip blue Mulch.

Blue? I'm green...

VOTE: Mulch

[Smocaine]

I agree with Creature that Camn looks bad.

[Smocaine]

Someone tell me Mulch's 794 looks remotely genuine. Mulch seems like a vet. Would he really not know that blue =/= green in this context? Mathblade hi, thanks for the vc stuff. Would you join a hypothetical Camn wagon?

[Smocaine]

Aint' no case sucka VOTE: Camn

[Smocaine]

Someone tell me Mulch's 794 looks remotely genuine. Mulch seems like a vet. Would he really not know that blue =/= green in this context? Mathblade hi, thanks for the vc stuff. Would you join a hypothetical Camn wagon?

Hypothetically sure. Practically I would have to see how it develops and see if my scumread of camn still holds.

I think Mulch is genuine in his motivations while lying.

Sounds more like a baiting of reactions than genuine saying his role PM was blue.

por que?

[Smocaine]

lmao, just don't trust me on Mulch, Ghostlin

[Smocaine]

Is that

the

Camn, "watch me defuse 'tvt' for towncred" soundtracker?

[Smocaine]

VOTE: Mulch just gonna park tbh. No one wants to wagon not hebi for some strange reason.

[Smocaine]

uhh, you sure you're town Ghostlin?

[Smocaine]

VOTE: Mastina
VOTE: Mulch
I LIKE BUTTS AND I CANNOT LIE

[Smocaine]

VOTE: Mathblade The pagetop slip is quite damming.

[Smocaine]

camn help me wagon something other than Stalfos?

[Smocaine]

Aronis didn't get the pagetop did he? #1325 belongs to Mathblade. Now, if Aronis initially had that number, but Mastina deleted his post to frame Mathblade with the pagetop, I'd string up Aronis in a second. However, I see no evidence such a thing occurred.

[Smocaine]

Mastina, you not replacing Theta because they're gonna stay under the radar in the wake of the great replacening or something?

[Smocaine]

VOTE: Theta Alpine

[Smocaine]

I'm not liking Cheeky, but Hebi was locktown for me. It must be a playstyle thing. I'm going to clutch onto the tr.

[Smocaine]

How is mulch a null read?

[Smocaine]

263 posts + deletions and you don't lean one way or the other on the guy?

[Smocaine]

You already know b.

[Smocaine]

People started (finally) joining the mulch wagon once this halfassed theta wagon took off. Why?

[Smocaine]

To be fair, Mulch has been scum

all

game.

[Smocaine]

Deadline tomorrow. Please wagon Mulch or camn. If that is too much of a 'risk' for you, then hop on today's designated policy lynch in Theta.

[Smocaine]

Okay that made me laugh.

okay so i'm going to go back to sheeping my townread who like i don't even remember why i townread her anymore but ik that at least at one point i thought i had substantial reasons for the townread so like yeah if my townread ever votes im going to sheep her
so basically i'm done trolling until like tomorrow but i'm too lazy to be productive so this is my compromise so at least i dont actively force a no lynch

However this confused me. Last time I checked, you were sheeping N_M.

Theta Alpine seems to be the only person not voting so I assume you're talking about her. Why would you think that sheeping a player that hasn't posted in nearly a fortnight is in any way a useful thing to do? Or are you talking about someone else?

I'd much rather lynch someone who isn't playing.

Oh my god I'd much rather lynch scum

can we please do that

People started (finally) joining the mulch wagon once this halfassed theta wagon took off. Why?

A flashwagon on a lurker is not a good way to hit scum. Maybe that poked people into acting.


Maestro come back to us!


-Key

Apparently not since no one wishes to lynch Titus or Theta.

They said like Theta wasn't going to be flashed at deadline.

[Smocaine]

VOTE: Mulch

[Smocaine]

So Cheeky, you finally voted Not Mafia. That feel good?

[Smocaine]

[Smocaine]

You didn't help with Theta at all. This is flipping red anyway, so no need to high road this lynch.

[Smocaine]

There's that proof I promised ya Not_mafia

[Smocaine]

Btw since I feel sorry for the town I suppose I'll share with you some of the information about roles here!
One of the dead investigatives got a positive result; the other got a negative result.
One of the dead investigatives was killed by a town vigilante.

liar

[Smocaine]

Losing those invests in a bastard game is probably a good thing. You're the one that's

fucked

Mastina!

<<< Sadly, only when I can arrange it with my girlfriends. >>>

[Smocaine]

VOTE: Mastina

[Smocaine]

VOTE: Diamond

[Smocaine]

Titus, Smocaine, you gonna give some reasons for your shitty votes, or just say nothing and avoid any sort of responsibility?

Also, nice OMGUS, Titus.

I'm still taking responsibility, no worries.

[Smocaine]

Smocaine has been prodded.

Wow, she actually did it

[Smocaine]

I think I'm done feeling out this phase. Anyone still down to flip this? VOTE: camn

[Smocaine]

This was edited but the second part looks like it came from the original post. You were on Mulch pretty much since replace in, so I want to know where you're at now.

I said grapes are delicious. She deleted nothing.

Off the cuff:
Town: grapes, MB, camn, probably you
Scum (which includes people not playing to a Town wincon): Aronis, smocaine---yes, they could just be shit town, but this is the kind of game where easily scum could be playing delibrately anti-town because LOLS! (No seriously, I'm much less likely to embrace this bullshit this game. And I've got a low tolerance for it anyhow; although smocaine encouraged the mulch lynch

and then hopped off to end the day on the mod, which is no lynch and then told us all how Town mulch was seems fucking trying to manufacture holier than thou town cred

that it should probably eat rope)
Curious About Because They're The Subject of Discussion: Radiant Moonlight, DS

I'm frankly feeling REALLY off balance right now and having trouble sorting, trying to decide whether or not I just roll with what I have (a lot of gut here) or do a close read of ISOs, mastina be damned.

I voted Mastina at d2 start, and was voting Mulch at eod. I hopped off the stalled Mulch wagon when deadline was approaching to start the Theta wagon which is when a bunch of people finally got on board with lynching Mulch. Which might be a good indicator that the theta wagon was lit.

[Smocaine]

Now you only have two scumreads, which you somehow blended to lead to your Smocaine vote. But I'm a bit happier with your posting today, not so much with his, so I'll join you there. I also seem to remember you making more posts about the "scumslip" but looking back it seems like either I'm mistaken or mastina has done some deleting so I'm not sure if I'm just remembering it badly.

Mastina went delete happy with those posts. On the real though, Mulch never PT slipped, I made that up

[Smocaine]

I'm down to play into mafia's wine this game. VOTE: MarioManiac4 This one's for Creature.

[Smocaine]

This was edited but the second part looks like it came from the original post. You were on Mulch pretty much since replace in, so I want to know where you're at now.

I said grapes are delicious. She deleted nothing.

Off the cuff:
Town: grapes, MB, camn, probably you
Scum (which includes people not playing to a Town wincon): Aronis, smocaine---yes, they could just be shit town, but this is the kind of game where easily scum could be playing delibrately anti-town because LOLS! (No seriously, I'm much less likely to embrace this bullshit this game. And I've got a low tolerance for it anyhow; although smocaine encouraged the mulch lynch

and then hopped off to end the day on the mod, which is no lynch and then told us all how Town mulch was seems fucking trying to manufacture holier than thou town cred

that it should probably eat rope)
Curious About Because They're The Subject of Discussion: Radiant Moonlight, DS

I'm frankly feeling REALLY off balance right now and having trouble sorting, trying to decide whether or not I just roll with what I have (a lot of gut here) or do a close read of ISOs, mastina be damned.

I voted Mastina at d2 start, and was voting Mulch at eod. I hopped off the stalled Mulch wagon when deadline was approaching to start the Theta wagon which is when a bunch of people finally got on board with lynching Mulch. Which might be a good indicator that the theta wagon was lit.

I have no clue what the fuck Mastina edited here ^ The message/intent is the same. On the same note, ghostalin your unvote pls

VOTE: Mastina
VOTE: MarioManiac4

[Smocaine]

Mastina, what did you do to my innocent #1698

[Smocaine]

If you're town, I highly recommend posting tonight.

[Smocaine]

Join me on MM4? All of Creature's mm4 posts went deleto, and then he himself went ded.

[Smocaine]

You realize the last few posts of mulch have literally been 'you look scummy', 'mislynch foiled', one (to me, for full disclosure) 'you're next' (I admit, I giggled at that one), and votes on the lynch that's not him du jour. We have no reads, no substance, and dealing with him has been a gigantic pain in the ass. If Mulch ISN'T scum due to some miracle not observed by normal mortals, and fucking somehow that's a mislynch, he's so negative utility to Town, mastina might as well have fgiven him a scum PM that literally said 'you are the uberscum. Your post restriction is that you need to be scummer than me in the thread and I'm CONFIRMED SCUM.' While I could lynch Theta, we should really make this scumtard eat dubious amount of rope first. Typing this entire post on what a scumfuck Mulch is IS ACTIVELY MAKING ME ANGRY HOW YOU'RE LETTING HIM GET AWAY WITH IT.

Dude, you are added to my townblock.

Too bad you and Not Mafia disagree on reads.

This is an odd post. How do you feel about NM and ghost given the Hebi flip?

[Smocaine]

These posts were deleted throughout the entire day phase. Creature was constantly complaining about it. Ask anyone.

[Smocaine]

Peep how townie this wagon formation is. After doing that compare these vote tallies.

I'm a bitch.

Twenty-second Votecount

:

Theta Alpine - 5 (Mulch, Smocaine, Creature, camn, Kise)

L- 5

Mulch - 4 (Radiant Moonlight, Stalfos, Maestro, Ghostlin)

L- 6

CheekyTeeky - 3 (massive, Not_Mafia, grapes)

L- 7

Aronis - 1 (CheekyTeeky)

L- 9

Radiant Moonlight - 1 (Mathblade)

L- 9

Creature - 1 (SnarkySnowman)

L- 9

Not_Mafia - 1 (MarioManiac4)

L- 9

mastina

- 1 (Aronis)

L- O- L

SnarkySnowman - 0 (

mastina

)

L- 10

Not Voting - 1 (Theta Alpine)

Votecount 1.6

Mulch(8)

~ Radiant Moonlight, Stalfos, Maestro, Ghostlin, massive, Kise, Not_Mafia, Smocaine

Theta Alpine(3)

~ Mulch, Creature, camn

Not_Mafia(2)

~ MarioManiac4, CheekyTeeky

Radiant Moonlight(1)

~ MathBlade

MathBlade(1)

~ Aronis

Creature(1)

~ SnarkySnowman

CheekyTeeky(1)

~ grapes


Not Voting: Theta Alpine

The Mulch wagon was at a steady 3ish votes all phase, but holdouts decided to pile on once the Theta wagon seemed to be the winning deadline lynch. The people who picked Mulch over Theta include, me, Cheeky, Kise, not maf, and Massive. Kise joined the Theta wagon to put it in the lead, and then the extra mulch wagon support came in from Massive, which led to both Kise and I going for our preferred lynch. The waffle on Kise's part seems too standout for someone trying to save their scumbuddy (theta). NM and Massive look really bad here. Here our their votes for reference:

Yeah but "Cantankerous" and "pedantic." Ok I'll bite.

VOTE: Mulch

VOTE: mulch

I don't understand Massive's vote at all, and the timing of it is shady. I think he looks worse, and my pick for the scumteam right now would be, Theta, Massive, MM4, N_M

Yaya preflip associations are pro

[Smocaine]

tinfoil: my 1698 was edited without the core message shifting to fool people into overlooking that post (emphasis on how good the Theta wagon was.

[Smocaine]

If you're town, I highly recommend posting tonight.

i'M PRETTY SURE THE OP SPECIFIES THAT THERE ARE MORE TOWNIES THAN THIS

[Smocaine]

Mastina, you not replacing Theta because they're gonna stay under the radar in the wake of the great replacening or something?

gonna preserve this one.
VOTE: Mastina
VOTE: MM4

[Smocaine]

There is an off chance that Diamond is maf instead of nm. Sorry bout the earlier vote camn

[Smocaine]

I don't remember why I said that about diamond lol

[Smocaine]

Math, quit grilling Diamond and help me off MM4

[Smocaine]

It takes no skill to push a replacee of a lurker. Drop the semantics, and find actual scum motivation in Diamond.

[Smocaine]

It felt like the Mulch wagon was dead for 2 weeks. Just because it got deadlined doesn't mean mulch was ever done for. I know I explored a couple of other wagons because I didn't think it would happen, despite being invested in it.

[Smocaine]

It felt like the Mulch wagon was dead for 2 weeks. Just because it got deadlined doesn't mean mulch was ever done for. I know I explored a couple of other wagons because I didn't think it would happen, despite being invested in it.

There are very few players that can turn around a wagon from L-1/L-2 or similar and end up just fine in the game. My early play, I managed to do that a lot (humblebrag there), but even I had a hard time doing it my later games. Similarly, few situations allow that to happen.

There was no way he was going to survive with his self-destructive posting style. Even when he wasn't being pressured, he was still determined to dig his own grave.

He was self destructive all phase. People could have done something all phase. However, people only did something when a town-fueled alternative popped up. I also don't remember mulch being that close to lynch until deadline.

[Smocaine]

Are you claiming those were the only two posts about your slot from Creature?

[Smocaine]

That isn't you.

[Smocaine]

I'm pretty confident yeah. In the worst case I'n wrong on two of you. Massive and Theta are 100% scum

[Smocaine]

And the point is a fuckton of Creature's posts about sring you were deleted. I bet there are more living posts from him on it than there are about you.

[Smocaine]

They kill you and poof, hardest push for your lynch is gone, along with their posts.

[Smocaine]

And the point is a fuckton of Creature's posts about sring you were deleted.

so? what is the mafia's purpose for doing this considering his "case" can be found within one ctrl+f of his ISO?

This post was edited, I swear, wtf

[Smocaine]

Why are you pretending he didn't have 80million posts complaining about his sr of you being deleted?

[Smocaine]

Can I get a mod

gaurentere

on that?

[Smocaine]

like all this about "oh, posts edited, wow!!!!" and then the case is just "x made a weak push on y which was refuted... then x died ... so y is scum"

^nothing wrong with this train of thought tbh.

[Smocaine]

"Creature sr you" is a fantastic argument. Whatchu think of Theta ?

[Smocaine]

Massive too. Also note, I had some fire lined up for MM4, but I got too inebriated and forgot it.

[Smocaine]

You've been unusually unengaged this game

[Smocaine]

mOST IMPORTANTLY IS THAT cREATURE REPEATEDLY SCUMCASED YOU AND COMPLAINED ABOUT HIS CASE BEING DELETED. tHE WAY YOU RESPONDED TO MY ACCUSATION DOESN'T COME FROM A TOWN MINDSET. iNSTEAD OF SAYING HE WAS WRONG, YOU'VE OPTED TO SAY THE CASE DOESN'T EXIST, WHICH WAS CLEARLY THE SCUMS'S WISH TO DELETE FROM THE GAME.

[Smocaine]

oops caps

[Smocaine]

Spoiler: saved

Are you claiming those were the only two posts about your slot from Creature?

No, I'm claiming that it's totally false that Creature's posts about me all got wiped out. Which is true. It's not like his read on me would be at all threatening. Honestly I don't even get what you're trying to push at all

There is an off chance that Diamond is maf instead of nm. Sorry bout the earlier vote camn

you think you got the entire game solved d2

I'm pretty confident yeah. In the worst case I'n wrong on two of you. Massive and Theta are 100% scum

There is an off chance that Diamond is maf instead of nm. Sorry bout the earlier vote camn

you think you got the entire game solved d2

I'm pretty confident yeah. In the worst case I'n wrong on two of you. Massive and Theta are 100% scum

And the point is a fuckton of Creature's posts about sring you were deleted. I bet there are more living posts from him on it than there are about you.

And the point is a fuckton of Creature's posts about sring you were deleted.

so? what is the mafia's purpose for doing this considering his "case" can be found within one ctrl+f of his ISO?

They kill you and poof, hardest push for your lynch is gone, along with their posts.

like all this about "oh, posts edited, wow!!!!" and then the case is just "x made a weak push on y which was refuted... then x died ... so y is scum"

And the point is a fuckton of Creature's posts about sring you were deleted.

so? what is the mafia's purpose for doing this considering his "case" can be found within one ctrl+f of his ISO?

This post was edited, I swear, wtf

nope! ctrl+f creature for "mm4" and you'll find creature's posts about me. easy as that.

Why are you pretending he didn't have 80million posts complaining about his sr of you being deleted?

I don't even remember them and I don't care because

in no way does that make any difference whatsoever.

There is literally no motivation for trying to wash out a scumread and then inexplicably leaving the actual read there.

like all this about "oh, posts edited, wow!!!!" and then the case is just "x made a weak push on y which was refuted... then x died ... so y is scum"

^nothing wrong with this train of thought tbh.

like at this point you're basically just pretending you have an argument when all you have is you implying that posts being deleted in this game is a good way to read alignment.

like all this about "oh, posts edited, wow!!!!" and then the case is just "x made a weak push on y which was refuted... then x died ... so y is scum"

^nothing wrong with this train of thought tbh.

of course there's something wrong with it.
firstly, you're painting the read as something it absolutely isn't without even fully admitting it
secondly... what do you even have to back that shit up? i feel like it's pretty damn obvious that there is no threat there

"Creature sr you" is a fantastic argument. Whatchu think of Theta ?

Massive too. Also note, I had some fire lined up for MM4, but I got too inebriated and forgot it.

"Creature sr you" is a fantastic argument.

no it's shit. there is no motivation at all.

Whatchu think of Theta ?

no opinion, she was just v/la for a shitton of time iirc

VOTE: Mastina
VOTE: MM4

[Smocaine]

nka is goat analysis.

[Smocaine]

It's not complicated, but it is analysis. Mafia is a very easy game.

[Smocaine]

Or simple, rather

[Smocaine]

On the real though, Mulch never PT slipped, I made that up

... I see.
Good thing I'm voting you instead of Ghost then.

tinfoil: my 1698 was edited without the core message shifting to fool people into overlooking that post (emphasis on how good the Theta wagon was.

Can I get you to explain why you're preferring an MM4 lynch over Theta? You appear to be pushing both with equal enthusiasm but your reasoning for Theta seems stronger to me.

This is for Creature!!!

However, you are correct that I'm pretty juiced on both. I could do Theta too.

[Smocaine]

I already did Mastina, it got boring.

Camn, what do you mean?

[Smocaine]

I'm conducting a behavioral experiment for my class. If you guys could help, I'd greatly appreciate it. Im gauging responses to the phrase "Massive's 25 posts were sus af ya?". thoughts?

I question your method of putting shitposting as an academic experiment/thesis.

Non-answers like this one are also invaluable to my research

[Smocaine]

[Smocaine]

Do you think scum was voting you last phase just before deadline?
Thoughts on mm4?
Could you call Ghostballin a dumb dumb for keeping his vote on me?

[Smocaine]

@Theta

Do you think scum was voting you last phase just before deadline?
Thoughts on mm4?
Could you call Ghostballin a dumb dumb for keeping his vote on me?

[Smocaine]

Pagetop?

I will save those 5 posts, and you can't stop me.

[Smocaine]

Grapes, MM4's defense here was enabled by the deletion of Creature's posts. This is exactly how scum would play this off. A townie wouldn't angleshoot to ignore Creature's (now nonexistant) push.

nope! ctrl+f creature for "mm4" and you'll find creature's posts about me. easy as that.

[Smocaine]

Oh, joy. You gave the mod an excuse to delete a lot of posts.

I didn't?

[Smocaine]

mm4 is still scum. Town is fucking lagging. VOTE: Theta rerolling

[Smocaine]

lmao, look dude, I gave you the proof of town!hebi, please help me today

[Smocaine]

I'll help with Mastinka tomorrow.

[Smocaine]

Bit of a prod dodge I'll be around after work.

I don't see my reads changing much today though if the state of things keep up.

People not on board with diamond/are townreading him: where are you? That fronts awfully quiet at the moment if it exists.

pedit: Starting to wonder is kise is scum here..

I'm waffling on Diamond, but I trust myself more than this absent town. I'll get into it when I'm free.

[Smocaine]

basically, I was townreading diamond's reaction to his wagon, and may have been too hasty at day start to sr him.

[Smocaine]

RM, why @nm? Thoughts on mm4? Read the op to verify the dayvig

[Smocaine]

It takes no skill to push a replacee of a lurker.

... what is this

It's 150 posts ago and not directed at you

[Smocaine]

why'd you even snip 2/3rds of that post mm4?

[Smocaine]

I think RM is town.

[Smocaine]

So anyway diamond's still scum. Like still blown away that he called kise scum for crumbing vanilla town that makes absolute zero sense.

Theta I forget is in the game sometimes and kinda made a show of his readslist might be scum?? Don't really know.
Kise you checked out? Cuz you haven't posted content today? I don't think?
Radiant moonlight meh? Still think they could flip scum but I've got better scumreads.
Stalfos still don't really know. Kinda want to scumread them but don't know if they townread diamond as partners. That's probably shallow.
Mario is killing what I'm killing I think. So whatever. Like I said there the case is pretty balls for the most part.


Not_mafia might be scum.


Smocaine I want to lock-townread but keep telling myself no.
camn has me pocketed! help!

aronis is town but is getting vig'd anyway so great.


ghostlin, you're not my type, but you're probably town.
mathblade is obvious scum.
massive is massive.

Probably forgot someone

Good posting, let's put a vote on that

VOTE: Mastina
VOTE: Theta

[Smocaine]

They decided to only tell the confmaf/bastard mod that they were v/la instead of the thread leaving room for wine.

[Smocaine]

Theta was a town fueled counterwagon to Mulch, who got a ton of votes once the Theta wagon took the lead.

cmon, don't be disingenuous, this is more important obviously.

[Smocaine]

/tts Counter wagon

[Smocaine]

I don't think theta is the first person to include mastinka on their reads list, ghost.

[Smocaine]

Not all reads lists need to end in a vote, but if this line of questioning helps you get on board, by all means

[Smocaine]

In other news, mm4 is still scum parking her vote on me

[Smocaine]

Math, mm4 read and your thoughts on them not wanting to lynch someone in your pool?

ebwop

[Smocaine]

oh hey you're wrong

[Smocaine]

Aronis early game was hard town imo. I'll roll with it like I did with Hebi slot.

[Smocaine]

Why would you assume heavy scum presence on the wagon when you think Mulch was digging his own grave?

[Smocaine]

Get the feeling that Theta is also not a great push, think the readslist is legitimate, but I'll hash that out with Key later because right now I've only skimmed Day 2.

Think camn/

MM4

/RM are better places to look.

That's the spice.

[Smocaine]

Smocaine: Did you notice that your request for opinions on me has totally disappeared? My quoted version is still in 1854 but pretty much everything you've said about me has disappeared.

Fun

[Smocaine]

We need to stop stalling these wagons. I say we flashwagon someone and soon.

[Smocaine]

RM, you guys are a gut townread. I'll sheep you guys if you make a vote now-ish!

[Smocaine]

Intervening, not a fan of the Diamond lynch. Someone tl;dr to me why he's scum because I see no reason to think so beyond Snarky powerlurking.

I think this should be obvious but this game is mostly being run by Key now as a heads up. This is the first time I've been on in like a week. There's a lot I can say about Day 1 that might be helpful to people but I don't really think I can go into it much without putting a lot of the blame on Mulch, and that's not who I am. At the end of the day it was my fault. The short of it is that while I'm incredibly disappointed in both my and Mulch's play, and that normally this would fill me with the fire to slaughter these bastards and leave them impaled on my spear, I have not been able to dedicate any time to this game. I've come to terms with it so I don't really feel I can get across how much I hate it, but I've already cried over it twice.

I'm trying to transition my role to serving as a sanity check on Key's reads/thought processes. That said that's more for her sake rather than the game's so I'm sorry I can't contribute more. I cannot make any sacrifices for this game, what I'm dealing with is just too important, and I'm sorry.

-Prism

You see no reason?

Despite his read list being faked, having no way of keeping Diamond accountable for what he says, his bullshit regarding me earlier in the day. More like there is no reason that Diamond is Town and the fact this wagon stalled only reaffirms to me that Diamond is scum.

Isn't Grapes pushing Diamond too? Mulch and Theta's wagons stalled. Does that make them mafia?

[Smocaine]

Is it time UdaHBomb?

VOTE: MM4

[Smocaine]

Confirmation bias

[Smocaine]

Thank you Stalfos. Town doesn't gloat about how Creature iso has nothing in it on them.

[Smocaine]

I'm pretty sure everyone agrees the notion of the entire team being on Mulch is bunk.

[Smocaine]

lol at the nos slot and his replacement getting lectured by the players for being too rood. I wonder where this game would go if the Diamond wagon looked elsewhere, if only for a few days.

[Smocaine]

lol at the nos slot and his replacement getting lectured by the players for being too rood. I wonder where this game would go if the Diamond wagon looked elsewhere, if only for a few days.

Game would still be in wagon stall phase regardless of who votes who before deadline

neat VOTE: Diamond. I'm sorry kid, but the gamestate isn't in a healthy place.

[Smocaine]

I didn't like smocaine for sorta pushing me towards mulch with the PT slip thing (this has been edited by mastina, so you can't find it) and ending up on someone else.

I was on the Mulch lynch dude. I helped lynch a townie. Stop saying I ended elsewhere.

[Smocaine]

Yo Smocaine that's not exactly something which will earn you

towncred

.

I must track my body count for bragging rights.

[Smocaine]

RM
camn
Ghostlin
Aronis (his hard lurk is souring this read by the day though)
DS
Unabombah
Grapes
Mathblade
Stalfos
Kise
Not_Mafia
Massive
Theta Alpine
MM4

UNVOTE:

[Smocaine]

VOTE: Theta Alpine

[Smocaine]

theta

[Smocaine]

The will to lynch DS isn't there guys. Let's move on.

[Smocaine]

Ghost and Math, you've been pissing this day away. Help me out here.

[Smocaine]

Stalfos, you have DS and Theta as probable scum. Do you think they are together or are you sring them individually?

[Smocaine]

VOTE: Aronis This needs to die. Dead weight.

[Smocaine]

I will spam the thread until a townie helps me move this day forward.

[Smocaine]

7days+

Replace/lynch Aronis or the town abandons.

[Smocaine]

I want a lynch Town!Aronis wouldn't put up with this game state, or at least that's the vibe I got from earlier.

[Smocaine]

I sat on DS for a few days and no one took to it. The will isn't there without deadline pressure. Try elsewhere please and thank you.

[Smocaine]

Kise, what is scums doing right now? Trying to swing a lynch or breed town apathy while blending into the shadows?

[Smocaine]

Eat me Aronis wtf

[Smocaine]

How do you have me and MM4 as equal scumminess mr. beetlojews?

[Smocaine]

and if that is legitimately a randomizer with Mastina at the bottomw of it. Congrats~

[Smocaine]

P O L I C Y
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T H I S

[Smocaine]

I don't even think it's particularly scummy, but it's a better lynch than ds.

[Smocaine]

Why haven't you been posting in this game Aronis?

[Smocaine]

WHY NOT HELP ME LYCH MM$???

[Smocaine]

How do you have me and MM4 as equal scumminess mr. beetlojews?

lf youre asking me, the answer is this question is incorrect
if you look at my readslist youre clearly higher town than mario
that being said youre still both scum obv

I have no wagon, mm4 had a vote. Explain your inaction.

[Smocaine]

Stalfos also expressed anti-mm$ sentiment, but they are your second strongest scumread. Explain.

[Smocaine]

Please fix this. This game is anything but mr.green.

[Smocaine]

wow, it's fucking nothing

[Smocaine]

camn I need you to help me lynch theta or anyone who hasn't been the leading wagon for weeks (think Mulch).

[Smocaine]

Aronis is playing like this to just get out of the game?

I'm thinking the fact that Diamond didn't get lynched actually implicates the slot.
Why?
Because I feel like mostly townies are being inactive, and scum have no reason to buss Diamond in this gamestate.
If Diamond were to be a townie, scum could've just slowly hammered during the days to go to night quicker.

Smocaine, don't give up! Just have a little more DETERMINATION.

VOTE: DiamondSentinel

This is the exact same progression as the town!mulch wagon last phase. Zero enthusiasm and stalling for weeks into a dl lynch. It's sketchy.

[Smocaine]

That a bad sign. Get LOUD.

[Smocaine]

For real, DS stop being lynchbaity.

[Smocaine]

Aronis provided zero content with his beetlejuice.

[Smocaine]

RM just posted, Mastinker

[Smocaine]

I think he's been reading the thread mane

Somethn tells me he been keeping up with things mane

Is there an implication in here mang?

[Smocaine]

God bless Whitney.

[Smocaine]

For real, DS stop being lynchbaity.

[Smocaine]

Don't replace into bastard gaames if shitposting isn't up your alley. I highly recommend replacing out if you need usb to handhold your way to not being lynched.

[Smocaine]

DS is town guys. Can you guys move one finally?

[Smocaine]

I don't believe scum would claim a role that can stop the NK and then claim ignorance of the mechanics as a reason that they didn't do it.
DS's frustration with the game seems real.
Except for Smocaine, there's been very little effort to prevent the DS lynch despite an apathetic gamestate that would make it very easy for them to push an alternative to their buddy.

We should lynch someone else.


In related news, Una's 2186 seemed to come to the exact opposite conclusion as me. Spinning the development of this wagon as DS

not

getting lynched and using that as reasoning to vote him just comes across very contrived.


-Key

Winner winner right here^