Anything uPick? (Endgame)

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Time to read the game.

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The Anything uPick:

Votecount 1.01:

Flat Earth Society (0):

Obsessed Fan Grill (0):
Chickadee (0):
Whemeplay (0):
Northsidegal (0):
Torn Up (0):
Gamma Emerald (0):
Hinduragi (0):
Mastina (0):
Creature (0):
Taroumaru (0):
Ginngie (0):
Espeonage (0):
Yume (0):
Firebringer (0):
Mathdino (0):
Smocaine (0):
Nosferatu (0):
Not Voting: Everyone

Flat Earth Society (0):

With 17 votes in play it's 9 to lynch.

The day ends in (expired on 2018-01-27 12:00:00).

Flat Earth is Blue.
By mod meta, I am assuming they are conftown till endgame or something else.

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Basically, my posting restriction?

...I have to post as much as Alisae would in a day.

lmfao

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(I mean, TECHNICALLY SPEAKING, there is a third option. The violation for not upholding the restriction is me losing my vote--my PM says "two days", but doesn't specify if that's gamedays or 48 hours. The risk of the former is why I don't want to intentionally let myself violate the restriction. There's also the fact that I'm afraid that if I deliberately put absolutely zero effort into so much as trying, that if I am deliberately and consistently breaking my restriction, that being voteless is not enough of a deterrent, that RadiantCowbells will take more executive action, be it force-replace or modkill, so. I don't want to test my luck, as it were. Even though doing so would make the game ten times more bearable and sane for everyone involved, especially myself.)

I'm tempted to conftown you by mod meta now.
Or atleast give you a pass for the first few days.

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Hard claiming Miller.

C O N F T O W N

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VOTE: mastina

wow mastina
does this make you like
super conftown now?

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(If you're curious? I'm Alisae as if that wasn't obvious enough. My mason PT is a Marriage to Raybells.)

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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yeah mastina um
my sib picked the exact samething in Spring Fever.

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VOTE: WhemePlay
That mason vig suggestion was a scummy af move

This is a scumclaim T B Q H

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I will vig all the masons!!!!

u can be scum too

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(If you're curious? I'm Alisae as if that wasn't obvious enough. My mason PT is a Marriage to Raybells.)

Oh there's one more part of my role I forgot to mention.
Alisae, the PLAYER that is, can to some extent vouch to my flavor. E cannot FULLY vouch for me, but e can at least

partially

vouch for me; this was explicitly mentioned in my role PM.

No um, I can vouch for you.
ur C O N F T O W N

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Convince Firebringer to stop jabbing at me and you've got yourself a deal.

u wud vote an ali like that?
wow I thought we were better friends then that.

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:thinking about outing the gimmick and the mains behind nonexistent hydra:

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Hard claiming Miller.

C O N F T O W N

mmmm idk it feels a bit off

Well I mean you're like a wolf.
so...

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No the meme is they're a hidden hydra pretended to be me and claire lmfao.
VOTE: Gamma

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That sounds like something a dirty leaker would do.

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:thinking about outing the gimmick and the mains behind hydra, which again, does not exist:

Actually really please don't

Why?

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I mean the none of you get off our suffering and is kinda the reason why you kept on calling Claire UCV so...

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no one fucking cares about the shitty meme that no one is trying to enforce cause no one gets it besides you zero and smocaine

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200 posts and it's only been 2 hours...

oh boy

~Maki

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ok found the new episode of RWBY for free.
bye.

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OKAY THATS ACTUALLY A GOOD ONE

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wtf UCV = Claire???? I doubt it, I've seen UCV's queue habits and Claire was never like that

Its a meme you won't understand and that Claire hates.
don't call her UCV unless you want to invoke rage and furious anger.

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Basically, my posting restriction?

...I have to post as much as Alisae would in a day.

you poor soul....

VOTE: Chick
Apologizing in first post is subconscious guilt for being scum.

I don't think that's Chick style of scum play and I think this tell is a bit old.

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Omg are you going to go over same posts as your other hydra head.

I might shoot you both instead of mastina

We're 2 dif heads puppy what do you expect me to do? I'm gonna be the main head here anyway but if you like I can write all my notes in doodle marker instead
~Maki
Pedit: Another meme
Pedit2: Dam right you don't

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Anyways,

I am a vigilante and if we don’t lynch mastina today, I am shooting her.
Thank you RNG gods

I love having a gun

Found my policy lynch.

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Mastina is town. Chickadee is town. I like nsg so far.

Vote: Whemeplay

I'm probably not going to be able to keep up with this game as much as the rest of you if it's like this but I'm going to do my best.

VOTE: Hinduragi

That was honestly the towniest post in the game so this is a bad vote.

Strongly disagree it was the worst post in the game (so far) would vote it but will finish re reading
~Maki

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I remember there being drama between Claire and Fire a while back, wasn't there something involving Walking Dead S1 Finale? I also remember Maria being the only town who trusted Fire pat D5 in The Thing Mafia

I don't think we had drama back then at all given I was new to the site when walking dead SI finale came around and yes I was like the only person who could tr fire correctly in the thing mafia but why is any of this important

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VOTE: WhemePlay
That mason vig suggestion was a scummy af move

this isn't even a gamesolve attempt this is just attempting to look good

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Shoot marriage to raybells instead.
Do that to confirm. Being loved my be alright. Everyone needs a little love.

Oh. My. FUCK. You LITERALLY just suggested he shoot the OTHER mason.

this is terrible btw.

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Hard claiming Miller.

C O N F T O W N

mmmm idk it feels a bit off

Nothing can possibly feel wrong with this at this moment in time lmfao
not to mention they're known for claiming miller when they're town.
They don't make moves like that as scum.

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It'd make me feel better if you verified how you were given this information. Because I know it was given in a certain way and was mentioned in a specific way; you stating what that way is would help me a lot.

Subject: 16P Setup Thread

Wait what (Body Double): Alisae and any players that replace him will be informed that you are very, very familiar.

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WOO

Does Beatlejuice work in 2017?

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HEY WHATS UP

COULDN'T PLAY TILL VOTED

Bullshit

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ur bad

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Like um
I'm really obvious town right now lmfao
but um lynch me if you can
I don't give a fuck

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Bae
ur the type of player to fake that bullshit.

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It sounds extremely convient and I don't believe Raybells is going to go over the top with the restrictions because apparently faking post restrictions is the new way to get townread.

Which btw
Chickadee can fake post restrictions too.
The only one who has a post restriction and is actually not faking it is mastina

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I mean since it's just my own play restriction I can claim

I'm Schrodingers cat, I was in a quantum superposition that I was in the game but not really until someone visited or voted me.

tbh
I think you would pick that

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I've seen RC use similar roles in these games, Ginngie entry makes sense

Ok here's a lesson in mod meta.
I recently found out, that RC isn't as creative as you think he is.
Like, it seems like he likes to try the same shit over and over again, and there are definitely symptoms of that showing here as well.
Like for example, the Chesskid hydra being in blue.
mastina being me is designed in the exact same way.
My role even is extremely similar to other roles RC has designed in the past.
I'm quite frankly dissapointed with what he's created.
ESPECIALLY with the lack of flavour, however I understand he's been sick so that's like fine?
But it just makes me sad that one of my favorite mods is a one trick pony.

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it's a scum push tho no matter what

You're pushing a post restriction

Post restrictions are NAI sweaty

especially in games like these

You're wrong actually.
Post Restrictions if they are real and the person who is being post restricted hates them, yeah that's pretty AI.
Faking post restrictions are probably going to come from scum.
And in case of mod meta, RC is probably going to give Post Restrictions to town more then scum.

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In fact bae
RC has designed a sum role in the past with a similar restriction as yours.
Betrix Kiddo, In Memory.
Look it up.
They couldn't post in the game till D2.

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i doubt that ginngie's post restriction was faked but

it seems slightly convenient that it got lifted so early.

ur actually a wolf this time feelsbadman

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Hey Gamma
what's your wincon?

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Let's note the setup is completely different, plus I'm not burdened by irl things as much here so I'm kicking back and enjoying myself
Also btw SKs are not gonna claim vig unless caught by watcher/tracker

Um from my POV he's doing the same things over again.

pedit: Yeah I was scum against them in the one game I cared about.

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In fact bae
RC has designed a sum role in the past with a similar restriction as yours.
Betrix Kiddo, In Memory.
Look it up.
They couldn't post in the game till D2.

Yeah but it's not the same
That one had a fixed timer, this one has a variable timer

I'm not argueing it is the same?

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Hey Gamma
what's your wincon?

you don't need to answer that GE. Save that question for a scummy player.

C O N F T O W N

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Hey Gamma why is it taking you so long to reply to a simple question that would be extremely easy for you to answer as town.

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it's not quoting your role pm I'm not asking it word for word paraprhase it friend.

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Its a very simple question because if you're town it tells you something that can be somewhat important.

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Now Gamma is the game singleball or do you think an SK could exist in the game?

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Gamma where arrrrrrrrre youuuuuuuuuu
I know you're here.

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WRONG.
The game is confirmed singleball by wincons

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You shouldn't NEED to guess based on past uPicks when your role pm tells you all of the information you need to know.

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ofg your read on the cynicalboy?

They're Annoying
but I mean
I guess I would expect them to be more frozen and less engaged if they were scum?

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@mastina

- Read up to this point and talk to me about Gamma please <3

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Chesskid Conf assuming the blue colored name is related to role and not pick.
Smocaine
Maybe you.
Fire eh could be town.
Maki TR's Yume I think that's a self-resolving slot.

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i figured it was me.

Why?

pedit: fire can be town I guess.

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well, like i said – i would've scumread me based off of my first few posts. it was really down to only a pool of three people: myself, nosferatu and chickadee, and it just seemed like it was me out of those three. you scumread me at the start of that one game we played together, too, assuming that i'm correct in who you are.

Who we are is right in our signature lmfao.

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First Major Wagon of the game is more chances then not, on town.
so NSG is town

Ginngie's vote looks bad tho.

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VOTE: Ginngie
Ginngie rolled scum feelsbadman

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Creature can be scum for now btw.
In fact that's probably the closest thing we're going to get to a scum lynch as of right now, but its wiser to wait 1 or two more rl days since he's the easiest read on the planet.

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Don’t vote my sheep, I need them or I won’t make enough wool for the winter

They're a wolf in sheep's clothing.

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I vote for a private topic to be created with the set of {northsidegal, People bitching about northsidegal} so we can get the game going.

That's the right game mechanics, right?

What a terrible attempt at a townslip.
And even the sentiment sounds town.
Probably not going to read into it.

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Also Beeboy wants to be annoying for some reason because he's a fucking sadist that gets off on that so...

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Mod

Can you list the hydra heads?

Noboy and Ellinoone
Not anymore.

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u annoyed me so you get outed

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btw you actually don't
and your memes aren't actually funny because chances are
no one is going to understand them unless you know what they are
and that you're an imaginary fucking sadist that's actually pretty fucking garbage at mafia.
And as such, you only play this way for your own entertainment.
If you want abusive relationships/fights to go read for your own guilty pleasure, you can go read skirt skirt v MathBlade or reflect upon your own relationship with Sakura.
Like
why the fuck am I even no one's friend? Because having no friends is really shitty.
And if no one modding is just as bad as no one playing, then team mafia is going to be a trainwreck.

Like, its not just me, its Claire to that's angry.

I thought I kinda valued your opinion but honestly nobody is just a fucking maggot to me.

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I'm assuming OFG is maki and if I'm right she is very villagery in this game

You can read our sig right?
Anyways its been mostly me so...

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btw you actually don't

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I mean you're incompetent so like
I guess you wouldn't be able to tell that you're wrong without a flip anyways so...

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Thats how I read that post btw.

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voting Creature is actually pro-town

I'll join you in 1 or 2 rl days.


I should probably take a break now.

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Can you stop it's not the sr we care about it really isn't it's the fact you're egging us on and trying to get us upset (congrats it's working) like are our friend srs question because game or not you're being such a fucking asshole rn idgaf if you sr us I really don't but fuck off with what else you're doing

you can push us all you want just don't take it further then you need too

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I don't know about your read on us all I know is Alisae is pissed and I wanted to step in

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VOTE: Creature

Spoiler: You probably shouldn't open this if you are a real person with a real name. No verbal abuse I promise

Sorry I guess.
its not really ur fault I've been getting unreasonably angry at you the past few days.
I kinda wanna say I care if that means anything to ya.

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Thank god I'm a lie detector.

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Mastina would totally fakeclaim that post restriction btw.

Don't
even
suggest it.
cuz shes not

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Yeah but RC would totally give that post restriction to someone who tried to upick Alisae of all characters, lol.

Hey
you don't even know me
I don't hyperpost that much, there are just people who are worse then me.
Except there are points where I just don't care to prevent myself from hyperposting cuz then I remembered the people who cared about hyperposters don't play mafia so...

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hi alisae

pat pat

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I would argue that you should not have fake dayvigged as some sort of clever play at the miller shit. Mostly because it was clever, or funny, or helpful. I am with Chick here in that it obfuscates rereads and later claims.

So get off your high horse. You are treating this like it's not 2018 MS. and that isn't going to fly. You need to learn to adapt to the current meta and learn how to read people that do shit post, because I assure you you can.

Now I would like an explaination of why you can fake day vig but other people can't make fake claims. And I do not want your central argument to be "it was obvious" and I also don't want "I did it for the meme/vine".

Normally hypocrisy isn't alignment indicative, but you really need to be admitting it. Because you are smart enough to not be dense.

this is a scummy thing to push imo.

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Big ass catch-up post

Spoiler:

UNVOTE: WhemePlay
Not sure if anyone around currently is worth voting for
also how tf did I miss Ginngie in that list of common players

'not sure if anyone around currently is worth voting for'

I'll take thoughts villagers never have for 300

-tor

This was me thinking it was a Civilization situation as Creature brought up, where scum were inactive. By "around" I meant in the thread

No the meme is they're a hidden hydra pretended to be me and claire lmfao.
VOTE: Gamma

^ This

Am I missing something or is literally no one changing reads all of a sudden
Ok whhhaaaaat is going on here. I mean I have a guess but I don't want to give any outs

mastina, NSG, OFG, firebringer, maybe wheme and ACB town

dino is weird but I agree with a lot of his conclusions

gamma still a wolf

This is reeeeeeaally weird to me tbh since I would think HCUFO might have a grasp on my townplay, I don't think it differed at all between MU and here

Someone to talk to

5. Not sure what to expand on. Scum doesn't often seriously suggest in the game thread that confirmable roles get vigged BECAUSE that draws attention. The main situation I can think of that scum would do that is in order to get townread by people like me (WIFOMMMM). The fact that Gamma jumped on the lynchbait suggestion when I expect much better of Gamma's scumhunting doesn't read well to me.

That's actually true, and I should have FUCKING REALIZED THAT SINCE I FELL INTO

THE SAME PITFALL WITH RB IN RFB REMATCH

Yeah pardon me I'm apparently needing to fucking RELEARN MAFIA HERE why am I being so dumb

Wheme play vote: I acknowledge it was lazy and poorly thought out. I'm trying to turn over a new leaf, however, by voting someone a little different.

Paranoia generation: I was talking about Wheme+FB+Smocaine

Rolefishing: it reveals town power most of the time, which is anti-town.

1. Cool.
2. Oh wow people who are all probably town, nice
3. You're smarter than this, Gamma. Do you think whomever did that (I forget now) is scum?

Edit: Is Creature even around? He's barely been posting in his own modded game.

Nobody was the rolefisher, and I'm not sure, I've seen some of his more recent posts and they explain it but I don't like the method he's employing
As for that "scumblock" yeah they're probably town, that's why I feel the game is going the way of Civilization

We are not a Miller btw

Oh my god what is this meme

Hi, some people haven't even started playing yet. Bloodthirst this early will be on no use in later game days. I specifically need to have multiple scum reads before night 1 if you want me to not be negative utility.

I interpreted that as ironic. This post feels a little LAMIST to me but I keep getting proven wrong on that kind of scumtell so Imma file it under "fishy for now".

Edit: has scum treestump literally ever happened in a 'non bastard game' btw

LMAOOOOOOOO
go read camn's revenge pally-boy

Sorry, why don't we just all claim, eh?

Truth^
Seriously does no one have a belt around here

BTW don't expect to see much of me from Sunday morning to Sunday evening, I got more birthday festivities.

This is a shitty catchup post tbh.
But I want mastina to talk to me about Gamma, because I could easily wrong here.

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Wait this is a Hydra

I thought this was an Elli alt lmao

Its beeboy and Elli
I said this earlier.

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Wheme Fire is town.




Also my Lie Detector claim was bs obviously.
tbh I only said it to see how Wheme would respond to it.
I got no response
I was really sad

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{Chesskid, mastina, Wheme, Ginngie (Tenatively)}
{Fire, MathDino, NSG, Torn Up, Smocaine, Bee}
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{Yume, Chickadee, Hind, Shiroalt}
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{Gamma, Nos, Espeonage}
{Creature}

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Chesskid is conftown tier because RC has a mod meta of highlighting people's names in blue/silver/whatever if they're town. If it's related to the role, not the pick, then I'm conftowning it based on mod meta, if it was based on pick, then different story.
mastina for obvious reasons
Wheme cause miller claims/retracts either way scum doesn't act that disorganized, and it probably wouldn't have happened in the first place if they were scum.
Ginngie we'll talk about D2.

Fire is obvtown
MathDino I've only seen them do things that I don't see scum do like...ever...nowadays. Also they're basicly Espeonage's punching bag atm.
NSG because honestly I think they were just town getting wagoned.
Torn Up I liked some of Tor's post.
Smocaine's posts seemed lit, especially around my interactions with Gamma.
Bee cuz they're annoying but they're play is probably town here.

Um then there's the I didn't read their posts pile.

Then there's Gamma whom I made my concerns clear but could be up for re-evaluation.
Nos honestly the fact that he hasn't gotten any attention is concerning considering I think scum would jump on him like dogs to a bone like always. Maybe it hasn't happened yet so shrug
Espeonage cause that one post towards Dino was trash.
Creature is obv for obvreasons.

pedit: The dog is the shiro alt.

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I'm townreading dino so I don't know where this is coming from.

oh...
I read 532 and thought it was a somewhat small push, and I kinda didn't like what you were pressuring him about here.
Am I misinterpretting that or?

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"Ok Claire you're gonna be the main head cause I'ma be busy"
Me: Okay I can do that give me a day
*Alisae takes over the thread*
Me: HOW DO YOU CONSIDER THIS SITTING BACK?
~Maki

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I agree with most of Alisae's read to some extent I've been silently reading in backround we disagree on about 3 reads that we're debating (notice I am not saying names)
I don't really mind the creature vote per say but I'd be interested in other votes like Espeonage for instance (really dislike the push on math)

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1) Are we in a hydra 1v1?
2) You think I care?

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VOTE: Torn up
The fact you're trying to implicate we're in a 1v1 along with saying no reasoning or anything helpful for that matter makes that post really shit. Saying they're not a sr is avoiding to step on toes.

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How am I being a bitch? That wasn't my intention sorry if you took it that way.

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That's between Ali and then and it's a bit more personal then you'd know. What do you want to sort since you seemed to have a motive for this conversation in the first place.
Pedit: Pressure 1 scum a 2nd pops up!

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Do you know what omgus means? Omgus is stupid and a bland statement that anyone can say about a scumread I'm sure you've scumread someone who's sr you before as town? Don't try to act like it was omgus when I gave my reasons. My vote didn't have anything to do with them scumreading our slot I didn't even bring us up in that post

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This is an exhibit of what we call a heat of the moment overreaction which only happens if someone is already in a mindset of defending. Seeing as the slot was previously in an attacking stance/tone I can only assume it is because they are expecting to get attacked. This is generally only something that happens to scum or people that have wagons on them. The latter is not true.

Vote: OFG

I have a scum read peeps.

This logic fails because you're talking to a different head then already stated. What made my post an overreaction I don't see how me asking a question is an overreaction but I'm sure you'll tell me why it is otherwise.
Pedit: I'm...not upset?

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Like I'm perfectly calm somewhat puzzled that you think I have a reason to be upset (or that you think I am?)
Pedit: Because that player isn't me. We're 2 different players in a hydra you can't pin assort me with something I didn't say.

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Like I'm perfectly calm somewhat puzzled that you think I have a reason to be upset (or that you think I am?)
Pedit: Because that player isn't me. We're 2 different players in a hydra you can't pin assort me with something I didn't say.

Ok then, quote chain yourself and tell me who on this page made each post.

This page is all I have based my read off, and that is all I care about right now.

Oh I misunderstood then
I thought you were saying
"you were acting defensive _____ pages ago so you're still acting it now!" When I just started posting all posts these past 2 pages have been Maki I'll sign again
~Maki

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:/ sorry I take the B-word back. I think we're misunderstanding each other. I didn't like how your hydra attacked the beeboy hydra when they scumread you. Something about that 1v1 made me feel like it was SvT, I want to say AtE but it's the wrong term but something like that.

I uh...think this is better directed at Alisae then me I think I-no I do understand what's going on and it's something I best leave to Alisae to explain if they want to if not then I can't really help you and it's okay! I guess re reading the "you think I care" can come off a bit bitchy but it was more like me shrugging my shoulders sorry

Anyway if you think Espeonage is scum then what do you think it means that he's looking away from math amd at the lynchbloc? Would scumEspeonage mean it's likely a townbloc?

Maybe maybe not I don't know if I would call it a "townblock" per say as I really hate that term it'd be interesting to take a look at those players and take a glance but for now I say I don't think that was intent behind the push.

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No, you are acting defensive and contradicting yourself on the one page in the space of a few seconds. Which is why your bullshit about not being angry isn't going to fly. Emotions can change very quickly so don't even try to pull that bullshit. And in the future proof read. It will stop you from effectively screaming to the world that you're scum.

Please show me how I'm acting defensive and contradicting. Also the fact you're trying to force that I was acting like ____ emotion is an...interesting path when you're just outright wrong. I was not upset nor have I been infact pretty calm and happy!

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If you can find a way to explain why you cared so much about something that was just discussion and not even backed by a vote I'd be happy to hear it.

What are you talking about here what post

Also what overreaction are you talking about I still want to see this post

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YOU WANNA FUCKING GO HOW DARE YOU FUCKING SCUMREAD ME YOUR WHOLE PUSH IS BULLSHIT AND YOU'RE OBV SCUM ANYONE WHO BELIEVES YOU IS TRASH
^ is an overreaction. for reference

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You've stated then statements:
"I've done an overreaction"
"I've faked emotion or am denying said emotion"
"I am obv scum"

I have asked for quotes to the first 2 statements that you're not giving so I'm pretty sure you're the one who's not backing stuff up here. Why you're not giving these quotes I have no idea since this should be easy for you given the 3rd statement.

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The contradictions are all through your posts last page

Quote them. Your push has no backbone otherwise
blow us out of the water espeo show everyone why we're obv scum

Post ___ and ____ are an overreaction for ___ reasons
Post ___ contradicts ___

very very simple

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aka you have no examples you can't back it up and are posting nonsense.
Good to know lovely chat let's do it again sometime (see cheeky now THIS is being a bitch (B )

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oh come ON the one time I post something I don't mind you taking the wrong way you take it correctly UGH YOU'RE NO FUN

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I would like when you're on computer to point out these contractions and these overreactions so I show you how you are wrong. That is all I want until then this convo is going nowhere because right now yes I see no points from you

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I'm a tone reader don't even try to banter out of this.

If I wanted to avoid talking to you I would simply say I'm done talking to you...although bantering out of a topic is somewhat fun hrm...

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I think you look worse in the hydra 1v1. Just saying.

~C

1) Are we in a hydra 1v1?
2) You think I care?

VOTE: Torn up
The fact you're trying to implicate we're in a 1v1 along with saying no reasoning or anything helpful for that matter makes that post really shit. Saying they're not a sr is avoiding to step on toes.

Jesus
There isn't even an implication you two (hydrae) deadass had the thread locked.

Reasoning also isn't something that would have been normal to provide there, if you wanted it, that's a situation where you would ask.

I didn't know we had the thread locked over 3/4th of these posts are alisae I didn't know we were in a 1v1 etc I know alisae was upset over there "memes" but I didn't know how bad it got that the thread was locked
~Maki

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I think Gamma is town and Alisae thinks Gamma is scum

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VOTE: Epseonage
Hold on his push on us is garbage let me end his whole career real quickly

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This is an exhibit of what we call a heat of the moment overreaction which only happens if someone is already in a mindset of defending. Seeing as the slot was previously in an attacking stance/tone I can only assume it is because they are expecting to get attacked. This is generally only something that happens to scum or people that have wagons on them. The latter is not true.

Vote: OFG

I have a scum read peeps.

Wow
Nice Solid
Justified vote you got there.
That is um
Something that is really easy to push there.

See
What you are having a problem with
Is Claire
being Claire
And this seems like a really opportunistic jump tbh.

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No, you are acting defensive and contradicting yourself on the one page in the space of a few seconds. Which is why your bullshit about not being angry isn't going to fly. Emotions can change very quickly so don't even try to pull that bullshit. And in the future proof read. It will stop you from effectively screaming to the world that you're scum.

Yeah because that behavior will never come from town.
Again, really easy pushes and I don't believe they're trying to evaluate our slot any further then "They did X."

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YOU WANNA FUCKING GO HOW DARE YOU FUCKING SCUMREAD ME YOUR WHOLE PUSH IS BULLSHIT AND YOU'RE OBV SCUM ANYONE WHO BELIEVES YOU IS TRASH
^ is an overreaction. for reference

This is cute from someone that never played through screaming death clan.

The observation is the omgus and the post calling in to question my calling it an omgus.

The contradictions are all through your posts last page

We have here someone who hunts by examining someone's motivation
Saying things like omgus and contradictions.
This isn't a natural push on our slot this scum pushing us and not really trying to evaluate their read any further.
I don't believe they're responding to Claire in good faith, mostly because he just seems to want to treat pushing us like a debate. What I am seeing from Espeonage right now is he is trying to win a debate, not make an attempt to be right.
So thats why he's scum.

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I'm a tone reader don't even try to banter out of this.

I READ MD DUDE

There is only one reliable way to read people. And that is through motivation. And you read motivation by using all scumhunting tools at your disposal to build a picture of why people would do something.

There is only one reliable way to read people. And that is through motivation. And you read motivation by using all scumhunting tools at your disposal to build a picture of why people would do something.

There is only one reliable way to read people. And that is through motivation. And you read motivation by using all scumhunting tools at your disposal to build a picture of why people would do something.

There is only one reliable way to read people. And that is through motivation. And you read motivation by using all scumhunting tools at your disposal to build a picture of why people would do something.

Now that's just a fucking lie.

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Um

You know there are people who read motivation through tone right

Are you really evaluating someone based on their self meta

Are you reading his posts?
Because he isn't looking like he is doing that at all.
And if anything, you're attacking my WEAKEST point.

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Time reads are among the most consistently useful reads there are.

Yeah I'm tunneling a wolf

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I think espe is town for all this tbh

I think my opinion and read accuracy is better so...

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Elli why are you posting so much on D1?

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I think espe is town for all this tbh

I think my opinion and read accuracy is better so...

Maybe
But I am the one with THE GUN!!

My voice is a gun.

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btw I'm conftown by role because RC would never give my role to scum due to how anti-fun it is
It would be that overpowered of a scumrole.

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And keep in mind this is the guy that hates giving bus drivers to scum so...

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Whatever
Espeonage is scum at the end of the day so...

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Ur memes are trash

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First point, phoneposting at work, so more to come.

just read up and tell me if I should like gamma or not, atleast up to the point I told you to.
Also I have a good idea who your mason buddy is so you better trust me.
Also look at creature's amount of posts especially through the last few pages and tell me if I should vote him or not.

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Please stop spamming the thread.
Espe lynch isn't viable. Pretty sure he's the kind of guy I can read well later on. Plus he seems town anyway. You're unintentionally OMGUSing IMO. I don't see scum motivation behind his push

I think my read accuracy is greater then yours.
and yeah I get my strongest reads from scumfucks who think I'm a viable mislynch.

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Is Alisae going to spend this whole game telling us he is better than us?

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Okay here are my problems when it comes to Creature atm.
I'm actually not sure if he's town or not.
I don't really care about what he says.
I care about his posting frequency.
And the amount he's been posting says town, but the amount of posts says scum.

Can anyone tell me for sure if he feels confident in his towniness in the most unbiased opinion as possible?

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Subject: Paint Mafia Mania! Game Over come look at the garbage fire

Is Creature Town Checklist
Is Creature Active?
Is Creature doing his usual stream of consciousness posting?
Is Creature confident in his towniness?
Is Creature taking the easy outs on his reads (IE Obvtown town, lynchbaits consensus scum)?

If the answer to the first 3 is yes and the last 1 is no, then he is town.

Let's address the first thing on the checklist.
Is he active? Answer: No he has 40 posts.
Is Creature doing his usual stream of consciousness posting? Answer: No he has 40 posts.
Is Creature confident in his towniness? Answer: No. 1684 does not read as confident to me. 1709 does not read out as confident to me (in fact it reads as defeatist)
Is Creature taking the easy outs in his reads? Based on a skim on his ISO it sure does look like it to me.

This is my own personal creature checklist and applying it around D2 71 pages into the game.

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Fire why don't you just shoot Creature?

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Seventh point, when all else fails, realistically speaking, I'm probably sheeping Ginngie. She is town, so I trust her to scumhunt competently.
Ideally. We'd hash things out together, but failing that, I'll just trust her.

Wait you don't trust me to scumhunt competently feelsbadman

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Because we are lynching Creature

I meant right now.

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Because we are lynching Creature

I meant right now.

I am not a day vig?

oh ok ty
Fire is Creature still scum after checking off my whole checklist?

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Sigh
VOTE: Creature
We'll get espeonage tomorrow I guess.

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no one
I'ma hold you to this and make sure it happens

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I want to talk to mastina before the end of the day phase and use her to help me out with my own reads.

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I want to talk to mastina before the end of the day phase and use her to help me out with my own reads.

Why?
Mastina isn’t even good as town
The last like five games with town!mastina I’ve played wshe tunnels town and defended scum

I mean if I find what she says useless to me I'll ignore it but I genuinely don't really have anyone else on the playerlist I can bounce off of atm.

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I could try Ginngie if they showed up.

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But besides that atm no one I can really bounce off of atm that's like town.

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we're all town
Just wait for some imaginary person to bring out his 3rd party tools to carry the hydra.

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How the fuck do you people even townread Espeonage his push on our slot is garbage that is always a scumpush.

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But besides that atm no one I can really bounce off of atm that's like town.

I'm toowwwn

u townread espeonage
But um if you wanna talks to me about gamma and my interactions with them and my creature checklist shoot, those are the only two things that are a complete mystery to me.

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Sorry. I think I'm at 3 screw ups on my post restriction, eh.

I really need to put down the maple syrup and watch that better.

ur post restriction is fake isn't it?
Come clean now before bad things happen.

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his push is from scum.

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do you want to actually read my posts about him or are you just going to say "your tunneling" without reading?

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Tbh ur probably town and I'm just overly paranoid for no good reason but shrug

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This is an exhibit of what we call a heat of the moment overreaction which only happens if someone is already in a mindset of defending. Seeing as the slot was previously in an attacking stance/tone I can only assume it is because they are expecting to get attacked. This is generally only something that happens to scum or people that have wagons on them. The latter is not true.

See what I go into looking at that post and them only presenting A or B and nothing else beyond that.

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Alisae had to vote me after I admittedly backed the slot in to a corner where they had to vote me or retract the not believing my read stance.

The fact it was followed by Ali waving around her metaphorical proficiency ego dick everywhere feels telling as really the main purpose feels like it's to discredit me. Both are classic loud player strats to avoid wagons. Personal faves of reck actually. I've played with bigger egos from better players.

lol
Lol
Lol

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I personally think Tor's posting has been coming from town so...

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Honestly
the scumteam is probably just Nos, Hinduragi, Espeonage, and Creature

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Oh wait its 19p there might be one more.
Its probably like either Gamma or the Shiro Alt or Chesskid if the reason they're blue has no relation to their abilities.
And even in that its probably just Shiro.

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{Chesskid (Tenatively), mastina, Wheme, Ginngie (Tenatively)}
{Fire, MathDino, NSG, Torn Up, Smocaine, Bee}
★
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{Yume, Chickadee}
★
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{Gamma}
{Nos, Espeonage, Shiroalt, Hinduragi}
{Creature}

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GE is near conftown and nos looks townie, but Creature and Hindu are still confscum.

See, I just disagree.
Nos I feel like that's a slot that people will always jump to and want to wagon if they're town and that's not happening. They're making a lot of posts and are just kinda there. Its a lot like how they were in Night and Day.

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And like
if I'm wrong its on Gamma

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{Chesskid (Tenatively), mastina, Wheme, Ginngie (Tenatively)}
{Fire, MathDino, NSG, Torn Up, Smocaine}
★
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★
{Yume, Chickadee, Bee}
★
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{Gamma}
{Nos, Espeonage, Shiroalt, Hinduragi}
{Creature}

Actually I made a quick edit considering if I'm wrong in my trs I think its bee. But at the end of the day even that is probably still town so...

pedit: Sure? I don't really know what that entails?

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GE is near conftown and nos looks townie, but Creature and Hindu are still confscum.

See, I just disagree.
Nos I feel like that's a slot that people will always jump to and want to wagon if they're town and that's not happening. They're making a lot of posts and are just kinda there. Its a lot like how they were in Night and Day.

That happens down the line on later days, maybe as early as day 2/3 for prep, because scum don't see him as a threat. That's the vibe I'm getting anyway.

Scum never see him as the threat, its either town that thinks he's scum or scum that think he's easy to lynch (which he is)

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GE is near conftown and nos looks townie, but Creature and Hindu are still confscum.

See, I just disagree.
Nos I feel like that's a slot that people will always jump to and want to wagon if they're town and that's not happening. They're making a lot of posts and are just kinda there. Its a lot like how they were in Night and Day.

That happens down the line on later days, maybe as early as day 2/3 for prep, because scum don't see him as a threat. That's the vibe I'm getting anyway.

Scum never see him as the threat, its either town that thinks he's scum or scum that think he's easy to lynch (which he is)

ok so in a game where there are two obvscum floating around in Creature and Honduras, why would town want to jump on the guy who is hopefully being genuine with his amusement on a day 1? He's town for now.

lolyou

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Honestly
the scumteam is probably just Nos, Hinduragi, Espeonage, and Creature

WRONG MORTAL!

Counter Arguement: your bad at this game.

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Honestly
the scumteam is probably just Nos, Hinduragi, Espeonage, and Creature

WRONG MORTAL!

Counter Arguement: your bad at this game.

PUNY MORTAL I HAVE A HINT ON WHO SCUM IS AND YOU DONT

if you have information thats role related somehow you're welcome to share but um
yeah you're not exactly someone who I think has a high read accuracy.

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Yeah go away and let the adults do the scumhunting okay?

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you're welcome to bring out the third party tools whenever.

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Yeah go away and let the adults do the scumhunting okay?

Blatant mis credit

If creature flips town I'm hunting you down

lolyou
I'm obvious town by play so...

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no Flat Earth is Chesskid and Kagami
they probably have a role related reason as to why they can't post today.

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I think Gamma has

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Either way if you're thinking of voting them I doubt the same trick will work twice.
I think its just more likely they'll show up D2.

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yeah you're not exactly someone who I think has a high read accuracy.

This might be ur new catch phrase, Alisae

And I am playing a drinking game for every time mathdino complains about the game.

I am pretty shit faced tbh

I am allowed to have an ego until my read accuracy starts consistenly being garbage.

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yeah you're not exactly someone who I think has a high read accuracy.

This might be ur new catch phrase, Alisae

And I am playing a drinking game for every time mathdino complains about the game.

I am pretty shit faced tbh

I am allowed to have an ego until my read accuracy starts consistenly being garbage.

Have we played before

no
we haven't.

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Lynch creature

Fire shoots Hindu

If Hindu flips scum yay

This is my thoughts

And if Yume is vig she should shoot Shiro

Yume is most likely shooting you cause L O L
but um honestly Cop in Shiro/Nos shoot the other.

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yeah you're not exactly someone who I think has a high read accuracy.

This might be ur new catch phrase, Alisae

And I am playing a drinking game for every time mathdino complains about the game.

I am pretty shit faced tbh

I am allowed to have an ego until my read accuracy starts consistenly being garbage.

Have we played before

no
we haven't.

Wtf then why you blacklist me so much

lolcuz im a l i a r if you can't identify which head is talking then you don't deserve to know.

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no Flat Earth is Chesskid and Kagami
they probably have a role related reason as to why they can't post today.

Weird

You don’t have them as scum?

No I have them as conftown.
A. If that's true I doubt RC is going to do the same trick twice like how he did in In Memory.
B. RC has only colored roles in blue or some other color in the past when they were town and tbh he's probably doing the same here. EPECIALLY if it's related to how the role functions.
C. Even if I did have them as scum, I have a snowballs chance in hell in getting them lynched today.

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Mastina only has 32 posts. OFG, if any post restriction this game is fake, it's that one. Why you bedoubty mapple chickadee?

xyzzy's game mostly.
Its not even doubt it's just paranoia.

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no Flat Earth is Chesskid and Kagami
they probably have a role related reason as to why they can't post today.

Weird

You don’t have them as scum?

No I have them as conftown.
A. If that's true I doubt RC is going to do the same trick twice like how he did in In Memory.
B. RC has only colored roles in blue or some other color in the past when they were town and tbh he's probably doing the same here. EPECIALLY if it's related to how the role functions.
C. Even if I did have them as scum, I have a snowballs chance in hell in getting them lynched today.

You scumread me because of A :/

Wrong.
I scumread you because I thought you were making it up.

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Also you're probably right and that's the sad thing.
there's just a lot about your hydra dynamic that scares me but I'm probably just being overly paranoid for no good reason.

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no Flat Earth is Chesskid and Kagami
they probably have a role related reason as to why they can't post today.

Weird

You don’t have them as scum?

No I have them as conftown.
A. If that's true I doubt RC is going to do the same trick twice like how he did in In Memory.
B. RC has only colored roles in blue or some other color in the past when they were town and tbh he's probably doing the same here. EPECIALLY if it's related to how the role functions.
C. Even if I did have them as scum, I have a snowballs chance in hell in getting them lynched today.

You scumread me because of A :/

Wrong.
I scumread you because I thought you were making it up.

It's only been 24 hours since the game went live

He can't be making up a reason to not post?

It sounds like selective judgement

I highly doubt those two would do that.
I feel like you're cheeky enough to do that?

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Where's Kagami?

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Where's Kagami?

Kagami has always been pretty much a lurker from my experience
And it’s only been 48 hours?

Both have posted on site recently tho

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wat bae
if you have a point to get across say it, I'm not getting it.
I don't take Chesskid and Kagami to be the type of players to do that.

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oh ffs its not even that much its like 44 pages in about more then 48 hours?
Some large themes it can be a lot lot worse.

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sigh

just ignore me im having a shitty day/life

gonna go back to lurking

carry on with whatever

And this is why you're a scumread of mine
(except for having the shitty day part, sorry things aren't lit for ya atm )

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<-- The Flat Earth Society

For reasons that I can only imagine are related to Chesskid being bad at making hydras, the hydra can't post here.

That's ok though, because I haven't read any of these 44 pages and probably won't do anything meaningful until Tuesday.

We're ascetic, don't target us unless you like wasting night actions.

there's been a miller claim lol?
tho um just answer us this one thing.
is the reason you are blue related to the functionality of your role, flavour, or both? No answer is a viable answer.

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I have reason to believe there isn't an ascetic in the game, atleast not a town one

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Ok so I reread my role PM. And I would like everyone to know that I am p certain there is only one scum faction.

This was information that was already outed when I pressured Gamma.

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For reasons only we are privy to, I will not be shooting Taroumaru.

you should vote creature and out what those reasons are

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Then shoot Nos

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Good night.

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lmfao

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B A S T A R D G A M E.


Espeonage btw I TR you like extremely hard right now
just thought I let you know.

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Sure Yume.
Right now I am just
really fucking salty.

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Sure Yume.
Right now I am just
really fucking salty.

Why so?

dw about claim your reasons

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VOTE: Nos

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also tbh I thought NSG was your "mason"
Whatever I am dumbfounded that whatever happened to Elli happened.

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alisae you're not voting tor

Tor is town?

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I will say that when mine and Taro's roles combine, we function similar to Fire's role. That's the reason I am not shooting Taro.

Anything else you want to add?

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If I take you to Tim Horton's can I move to the top?

Chickadee what was this about?

pedit: /shrug I just find your description vague

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Was I supposed to get something from you or?

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Ride or Die - mastina, espeonage, Ginngie, Whemeplay,
Maybe Town - Shiro, Yume, Torn Up, Smocaine, Chickadee, NSG, MathDino
Dunno what to do with - Flat Earth Society
Scum - Gamma, Nosferatu

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alisae you're not voting tor

Tor is town?

lol

Do you have a guilty on that slot?
Or are they scum because you think their play is scummy? If so what about it cause I must be blind then.
Cuz I want nos dead.

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Espeonage where are your reads at atm?

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Gamma what's your conclusion because this honestly seems like a waste of time.

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Ginngie doesn't bus.
I have thories but /shrug.
Also give us a fucking hood cuz ur


atleast to me atm.

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theroies about what happened to Elli btw.

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ginngie if you want to talk to me with words in like a language I understand that woulde be cool because









isn't a language I understand.

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Honestly mastina is a self-resolving slot.
And no
I am not scum Mr. S M O C A I N E

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I am in fact
the most shining, beacon of what is obvious towniness.

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As such you should treat me as such if you don't want to spend a life time T E S T I N G.

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tbh I am kinda interested why me and sib's large normal was linked but /shrug

guuuuuuuuuurl we are in sync lmfao

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We wait for Espeonage to get his result
and then we lynch either his guilty or nos.