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Post Post #903 (isolation #0) » Tue Jan 16, 2018 5:00 pm

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Hiya. I think I'm too lazy to use Shuichi right now, as much as I'd love to get my week on.
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Post Post #904 (isolation #1) » Tue Jan 16, 2018 5:00 pm

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Weeb*
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Post Post #906 (isolation #2) » Tue Jan 16, 2018 5:05 pm

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Oh man I still have that

I at least need to pick up the extra A
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Post Post #908 (isolation #3) » Tue Jan 16, 2018 5:13 pm

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Nope
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Post Post #909 (isolation #4) » Tue Jan 16, 2018 5:14 pm

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I literally just got home from survivormeet btw so I'm not reading jack shit till tomorrow
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Post Post #913 (isolation #5) » Wed Jan 17, 2018 6:38 am

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hot takes from page 8

lld kaede kagami & nos lean town
vax lean scum
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Post Post #917 (isolation #6) » Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:37 am

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k
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Post Post #921 (isolation #7) » Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:41 am

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looks pretty rebutted to me
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Post Post #923 (isolation #8) » Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:44 am

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...do i know you?

i'm not done reading
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Post Post #927 (isolation #9) » Wed Jan 17, 2018 11:52 am

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i mean like i said i havent finished reading but also honestly quote walling on replace in is something i primarily do as scum to look town
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Post Post #940 (isolation #10) » Wed Jan 17, 2018 3:17 pm

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Joey can be a town lean but wagon speed doesn't matter mate
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Post Post #944 (isolation #11) » Wed Jan 17, 2018 3:34 pm

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kyoko
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Post Post #945 (isolation #12) » Wed Jan 17, 2018 3:35 pm

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ill iso the main wagons and kyoko i guess

thats a useful thing to do
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Post Post #946 (isolation #13) » Wed Jan 17, 2018 3:46 pm

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i guess boring... likes to talk about theory a bit? other than that i have no problem with her
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Post Post #949 (isolation #14) » Wed Jan 17, 2018 4:00 pm

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honestly i glazed over reading dan a bit but i don't at all understand the votes there

only thing that bugged me was his boring vote from left field
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Post Post #950 (isolation #15) » Wed Jan 17, 2018 4:02 pm

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lol these are our three options and this one isn't the lead wagon? the fuck are you all smoking

VOTE: Kirigiri
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Post Post #952 (isolation #16) » Wed Jan 17, 2018 4:09 pm

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cabd did you take up crack when i wasn't looking? please vote better
glad to see lld is on this wagon, i was about to call her scum otherwise
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Post Post #959 (isolation #17) » Wed Jan 17, 2018 4:23 pm

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nah.

look it's possible they're all town but of the options i was presented this is obviously the best wagon
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Post Post #960 (isolation #18) » Wed Jan 17, 2018 4:23 pm

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and don't you even wagon speed me.
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Post Post #961 (isolation #19) » Wed Jan 17, 2018 4:23 pm

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you know better.
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Post Post #963 (isolation #20) » Wed Jan 17, 2018 4:27 pm

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:roll:
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Post Post #1104 (isolation #21) » Sat Jan 20, 2018 7:47 am

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Can't say I'm surprised this is happening.

I have a question. Don't these double votes out people as non daughters? So shouldn't everyone have picked day 100000000? Strange design choice unless I'm missing something.
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Post Post #1110 (isolation #22) » Sat Jan 20, 2018 7:53 am

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In post 1105, Joey_ wrote:Non they dont because obviously scum and town both have doublevote so you cant have a single lynch w/o someone being a double voter in there even tho its not their 'day'
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Post Post #1111 (isolation #23) » Sat Jan 20, 2018 7:54 am

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I don't know how you guys managed to guess boring was scum btw, I still don't get it. I don't really have any protests related to my play though, I know how bad it looks at a glance so I apologize for it.
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Post Post #1113 (isolation #24) » Sat Jan 20, 2018 7:57 am

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In post 1086, FakeGod wrote:
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Not Voting [14]
- Kaede Akamatsu, Hinduragi, Cabd x2, Nosferatu, Maki Harukawa, Kaito Momota, Cephrir, SnarkySnowman, Vaxkiller, Joey_ x2, Kyoko Kirigiri, Kotoko Utsugi, Kokichi Oma, ActionDan

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Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2018-01-28 12:00:00)
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Post Post #1115 (isolation #25) » Sat Jan 20, 2018 7:58 am

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Yeah, I'm surprised by that as well.

Should I claim yet?
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Post Post #1121 (isolation #26) » Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:01 am

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Yeah, the correct day was infinity. Or maybe like 7 and you try to make yourself the only vote in lylo.
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Post Post #1122 (isolation #27) » Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:01 am

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Everyone's role is negative utility.
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Post Post #1126 (isolation #28) » Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:11 am

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Are we following Kagami's plan or not? I assumed we were but maybe you guys decided not to in the pages I didn't get to
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Post Post #1128 (isolation #29) » Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:17 am

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Because I knew I'd most likely be quicklynched today, so I didn't care
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Post Post #1129 (isolation #30) » Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:18 am

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And before you say it, please, no one actually listens to dead townies.
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Post Post #1130 (isolation #31) » Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:19 am

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I hate to say it because I liked it so much at the time, but perhaps the place to be looking is the quiet Kyoko votes, not my very loud one.
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Post Post #1131 (isolation #32) » Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:20 am

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Or, hell, maybe she's still scum, your guess is probably better than mine at the moment.
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Post Post #1133 (isolation #33) » Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:41 am

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It is?

Wait this is happening just because that might be a crumb? Fucking please.
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Post Post #1135 (isolation #34) » Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:44 am

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If we're going to say daughters can't have opinions about the game without interpreting them through a microscope then what's the point

They probably followed the plan
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Post Post #1136 (isolation #35) » Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:44 am

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It's too dangerous to do anything else.
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Post Post #1138 (isolation #36) » Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:50 am

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Yeah I'm gonna need multiple people to tell me to claim.
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Post Post #1162 (isolation #37) » Sat Jan 20, 2018 11:02 am

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In post 1140, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:
In post 1111, Cephrir wrote:I don't know how you guys managed to guess boring was scum btw
Everyone including myself stated their reason for SRing boring, this happened after you had already replaced in iirc, you sound like this is something very surprising.
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Post Post #1164 (isolation #38) » Sat Jan 20, 2018 11:03 am

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In post 1142, Hinduragi wrote:I really wasn’t sure this guy was scum at d2 start. I am now. His reaction to his wagon was awful. I had already told myself before day began that if I was alive and he hadn’t read the game, he was scum. There’s no reason to not read this game without being lazy scum. Town doesn’t assume they’re gonna be quicklynched and this not contribute. That’s bullshit anti town logic that belongs in the trash where it came from. This is a lazy scum mindset. Kill it.
I can be lazy town!

This is getting old pretty quick though ^^
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Post Post #1165 (isolation #39) » Sat Jan 20, 2018 11:04 am

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I'm a day 3 doublevoter.

I was planning to try not to vote tomorrow, but apparently that's not how this works!
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Post Post #1171 (isolation #40) » Sat Jan 20, 2018 11:08 am

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In post 1170, Joey_ wrote:
In post 1168, Maki Harukawa wrote:
In post 1166, Joey_ wrote:
In post 1163, Maki Harukawa wrote:
In post 1161, Joey_ wrote:
In post 1160, Maki Harukawa wrote:btw if ____ isn't a daughter there scum to me but they've been my daughter read since about half of day 1 so...ehh like you should know the soft I'm talking about
the only thing this post achieve is softing claiming non-daugther ftr
but what if I am daughter and wifoming
Then you look scummy for making post are achieve nothing and attracting attention to yourself which is something a daugther shouldnt do
what if I want to die because I'm board of this game?
Then again, claiming non-daugther and why would you be bored when we are fisting the scum team atm ??
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Post Post #1173 (isolation #41) » Sat Jan 20, 2018 11:10 am

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That's how losing happens but no don't take it from the really experienced guy he probably doesn't know anything
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Post Post #1177 (isolation #42) » Sat Jan 20, 2018 11:12 am

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I wish LLD was here to talk about how not a crumb that crumb is, but it was hers. So tragic. Maybe someone else in this game has a brain??
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Post Post #1179 (isolation #43) » Sat Jan 20, 2018 11:13 am

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In post 1175, Joey_ wrote:If you are this concerned about winning and losing, mind actually reading the game once ? and giving your input cause from the looks of the soft, you getting roped.
I am absolutely not reading the game if I'm getting a promise I'll be lynched anyway. My time is more valuable than that, thanks.
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Post Post #1181 (isolation #44) » Sat Jan 20, 2018 11:14 am

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No :)
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Post Post #1184 (isolation #45) » Sat Jan 20, 2018 11:14 am

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I could be, if anyone would give me the time of day :]
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Post Post #1188 (isolation #46) » Sat Jan 20, 2018 11:15 am

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In post 1183, Hinduragi wrote:
In post 1179, Cephrir wrote:
In post 1175, Joey_ wrote:If you are this concerned about winning and losing, mind actually reading the game once ? and giving your input cause from the looks of the soft, you getting roped.
I am absolutely not reading the game if I'm getting a promise I'll be lynched anyway. My time is more valuable than that, thanks.
Right. Got any scumreads though? At least boring made the attempt after being asked.
Not really, but gun to my head, you.

I'm not scum, so that comparison isn't particularly relevant.
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Post Post #1193 (isolation #47) » Sat Jan 20, 2018 11:18 am

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My dude, if you are going to confbias that hard, there's nothing I can say that will change your mind. I do enjoy the knowledge I'll be vindicated, but this is mafiascum so I'll probably be blamed lol
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Post Post #1196 (isolation #48) » Sat Jan 20, 2018 11:22 am

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In post 1194, Joey_ wrote:You arent even trying, all you do is complain youre getting speed wagoned and that no one listen to you, that im confbiasing. Please, honestly, would you lynch yourself considering LLDD's post in my place? Why, why not? give content do something, you are doing nothing atm

And if youre serious about your ash fos, make a case, something
Again, perfectly willing to try if I have any reason to think it's not an absolute waste of my time.

I would not lynch me without a second thought, no. Why is "we're not lynching Cephrir today" even a crumb, and not possibly, you know, a townread or representative of a belief in her ability to read me with a day or two of time (which would be reasonable of her -- it's not like we have no history).

I don't have a case I just think the way he's pushing me here is shit while you come across as more genuine.
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Post Post #1197 (isolation #49) » Sat Jan 20, 2018 11:23 am

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In post 1195, Hinduragi wrote:Yeah I’m not voting you because “crumbs”. I think LLD hid behind Kagami in all likelihood. I’ll continue saying what I want regardless of how it makes me look because I know what I’m doing is beneficial and necessary.

You’re not even going to read the game and are looking for excuses to stall out this game.
zzz

Why am I stalling the game, exactly? What am I gaining from that, and how am I even doing it?
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Post Post #1200 (isolation #50) » Sat Jan 20, 2018 11:25 am

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And that has what scum motivation, exactly? It's obvious the survival driven play here would be to generate some content, but I'm responding to the present instead because I'm bloody annoyed by it.
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Post Post #1201 (isolation #51) » Sat Jan 20, 2018 11:26 am

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In post 1199, Hinduragi wrote:Ceph is scumstalling and ate’ing it up while everyone hesitates thinking he’s going to read up and magically work things out. This was Yuki’s slot D1, don’t forget
You didn't answer my question.

This wouldn't be a very good plan, either. I'm not actually the worst mafia player on earth, turns out.
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Post Post #1204 (isolation #52) » Sat Jan 20, 2018 11:27 am

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In post 1203, Joey_ wrote:You dont look annoyed, you look indifferent to whatever win con you have
I think I could be excused a little apathy in this situation. It's hard to want the town to win while they're lynching you. Is that stupid, sure. It's still a thing.
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Post Post #1206 (isolation #53) » Sat Jan 20, 2018 11:28 am

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In post 1202, Hinduragi wrote:The survival play is anything that prevents your lynch. Generating some content would be more town than survival play
I can absolutely, positively assure you that I am able to generate town looking content whether I'm town or not.
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Post Post #1208 (isolation #54) » Sat Jan 20, 2018 11:28 am

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In post 1205, Hinduragi wrote:I wouldn’t want to catch up either if I was getting scumlynched
Anyone ever told you the attitude's a bit much?
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Post Post #1210 (isolation #55) » Sat Jan 20, 2018 11:29 am

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I'd like to hear from Cabd.
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Post Post #1212 (isolation #56) » Sat Jan 20, 2018 11:30 am

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Oh, that's a truth? Maybe I should check my role PM again!
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Post Post #1214 (isolation #57) » Sat Jan 20, 2018 11:31 am

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Hmmmm still doesn't look red

Do you think the mod used invisible ink?
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Post Post #1218 (isolation #58) » Sat Jan 20, 2018 11:33 am

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No no, it has to be a quicklynch before it stops being easy! We wouldn't want scum to have to work for it.
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Post Post #1220 (isolation #59) » Sat Jan 20, 2018 11:34 am

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Anyway I'm gonna scumstall you more now, because I have way more important things to do right now than read this game but maybe I'll read it later if I feel like it.

Look at all that hesitation I'm causing you! Wow, this is such a scum strat.
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Post Post #1227 (isolation #60) » Sat Jan 20, 2018 12:47 pm

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yes that was as far as i got and then i isod the relevant wagons

to the rest i can only shrug and complain about the blaming me for my lynch before it even happens
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Post Post #1228 (isolation #61) » Sat Jan 20, 2018 12:48 pm

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yes i am sneaking in here even though i should be working on something because i have issues
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Post Post #1249 (isolation #62) » Sat Jan 20, 2018 1:41 pm

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In post 1231, Joey_ wrote:
In post 1227, Cephrir wrote:yes that was as far as i got and then i isod the relevant wagons

to the rest i can only shrug and complain about the blaming me for my lynch before it even happens
Why did you want anime detective 8 pages into the game over the others 2 top wagons?
Their posts suck. I didn't see scum in the other two.
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Post Post #1251 (isolation #63) » Sat Jan 20, 2018 1:42 pm

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In post 1243, Joey_ wrote:"As long as you live, double voting powers will be shown during the vote counts"
I don't think this is a scum power on the grounds that the mod actually answered Cabd's question.
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Post Post #1252 (isolation #64) » Sat Jan 20, 2018 1:42 pm

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In post 1244, Kyoko Kirigiri~ wrote:Based on LLD reaction to Kagami's plan I believe it is safe to assume she didn't follow the algorithm plan.
it's not
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Post Post #1253 (isolation #65) » Sat Jan 20, 2018 1:43 pm

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In post 1244, Kyoko Kirigiri~ wrote:I will say that I find cephir play today to be highly suspicious. His words do not reflect his actions which really shades his motives.
n a i l e d
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Post Post #1254 (isolation #66) » Sat Jan 20, 2018 1:43 pm

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In post 1244, Kyoko Kirigiri~ wrote:He claims to not being allowed to read based on foolishness and whatnot but he had more than ample time to actually read the game during nighttime and even now he could have been doing that seeing as more than few people have expresed a desire to let the day roll for a bit and not cut it short. I do find myself agreeing with Hindu here.
i'm aware.

there's still no scum motivation here.
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Post Post #1258 (isolation #67) » Sat Jan 20, 2018 1:47 pm

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In post 1255, Kyoko Kirigiri~ wrote:
In post 1252, Cephrir wrote:
In post 1244, Kyoko Kirigiri~ wrote:Based on LLD reaction to Kagami's plan I believe it is safe to assume she didn't follow the algorithm plan.
it's not
How so ? For a good portion of day 1 she was against following it. Having a sudden change of heart and using it seems highly unliekly in my honest opinion.
i feel it's too risky for her to have done anything else. objections were not strong and continuous enough and i don't see a clear crumb
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Post Post #1259 (isolation #68) » Sat Jan 20, 2018 1:48 pm

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In post 1257, Hinduragi wrote:
In post 1249, Cephrir wrote: Because the sum total of my contributions to the game as of Night 1 was defending scum and pushing a counterwagon
and yet we’re supposed to believe that, instead of reading and maybe providing something to the game, you thought it would be a better idea to not read the game. Because that’s going to help your case of being quicklynched. And, even though you completely agree you aren’t making things better for yourself, you think I’m scum because I’m in agreement with you that what you’re doing is scummy.
my desire to not be quicklynched should be the same regardless of my alignment so this is a crock of shit
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Post Post #1261 (isolation #69) » Sat Jan 20, 2018 1:49 pm

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please tell me more about how i'm "not doing myself any favors" or whatever though that'll definitely help get the heat off you for this lynch if we all pretend it's my fault

still waiting for cabd to say anything meaningful
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Post Post #1262 (isolation #70) » Sat Jan 20, 2018 1:50 pm

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In post 1260, Hinduragi wrote:Anyone who’s familiar with LLD knows she followed her gut after disagreeing with Kagami and hid behind a good tr she thought was unlikely to die.
hello i'm familiar with LLD and i don't know this
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Post Post #1264 (isolation #71) » Sat Jan 20, 2018 1:51 pm

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you're right i should care more if i'm scum lol?
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Post Post #1269 (isolation #72) » Sat Jan 20, 2018 3:21 pm

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For the thousandth time, reading up and pushing somewhere is both the scum and town thing to do. Pushing me on not doing it is ridiculous.
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Post Post #1270 (isolation #73) » Sat Jan 20, 2018 3:22 pm

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In post 1268, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:if we're to assume scum's "Troll" is their VT version of any potential thing they may have, it means Kyoko's almost conftown tiers of town no?
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Post Post #1271 (isolation #74) » Sat Jan 20, 2018 3:26 pm

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In post 1269, Cephrir wrote:For the thousandth time, reading up and pushing somewhere is both the scum and town thing to do. Pushing me on not doing it is ridiculous.
^it essentially amounts to voting me because you don't like how i've approached the game rather than because of an actual read you have.
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Post Post #1277 (isolation #75) » Sat Jan 20, 2018 4:27 pm

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In post 1275, Vaxkiller wrote:DO I still "lean scum" cephir?
Sure.
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Post Post #1282 (isolation #76) » Sat Jan 20, 2018 4:47 pm

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In post 1279, Joey_ wrote:
In post 1277, Cephrir wrote:
In post 1275, Vaxkiller wrote:DO I still "lean scum" cephir?
Sure.
Are you mefias? Be honest
Sure, bud, if it makes you feel better
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Post Post #1285 (isolation #77) » Sat Jan 20, 2018 4:57 pm

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On the contrary, every answer I give is a town answer :]
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Post Post #1287 (isolation #78) » Sat Jan 20, 2018 5:15 pm

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I'm honestly not sure
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Post Post #1289 (isolation #79) » Sat Jan 20, 2018 6:04 pm

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Thanks for your contribution! That is very helpful.
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Post Post #1293 (isolation #80) » Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:37 pm

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I can count to 8.
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Post Post #1294 (isolation #81) » Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:38 pm

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I want you guys to know that LLD is yelling at you from a dead thread somewhere.
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Post Post #1300 (isolation #82) » Sun Jan 21, 2018 8:14 am

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page 9 was a good page

vax not scum anymore
kaede maybe town
maki maybe town
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Post Post #1301 (isolation #83) » Sun Jan 21, 2018 8:21 am

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Hindu is someone I see as performing towniness consistently, not actually being town. Think there's an emptiness behind their movements. Kotoko is also someone whose posts kind of exist but so far haven't said anything that stuck with me as town. /12
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Post Post #1302 (isolation #84) » Sun Jan 21, 2018 8:25 am

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In post 307, Vaxkiller wrote:
In post 305, Hinduragi wrote:Daughter hunting and expecting a daughter flip on a player inthread amid a conversation you have no business being in. Not to mention there's 0 reason to make that post as town.
I need to take a deep breathe here so I attack the play and not the player.

This was fucking rude. Like complete asshole behavior. I'm playing a game with you and you say I have no fuckign business POST AND GIVING OPINIONS. YOU SHOULD FUCKING WANT ME TO GIVE MY GOD DAMN OPINION ON EVERYTHING SO YOU CAN SORT ME OUT.

BUT NO, YOU HAVE THIS GOD DAMN HARD ON FOR ME BEING SCUM? WHY?

FUCKING WHY?

Like from your point on view your posting as if I'm confirmed scum, and then ask me to just shut the fuck up. YOU DON'T WANT ME TO TALK TO TRY AND GET A BETTER FUCKIGN READ?????

THEN YOU POST THIS SHIT:
In post 306, Hinduragi wrote:Just so everyone is following, whenever Vax has mentioned LLD, he has always said "could be town or scum".

WHEN I EXPLICITLY SAID ONE ACTION OF LLD'S COULD BE TOWN OR SCUM.

ONE FUCKING ATION.

I can only come to one conclusion from all this bullshit you are putting forth here, re-writing things to suit your needs.

Your scum, fuck your play, get lynched.

VOTE: Hinduragi
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Post Post #1303 (isolation #85) » Sun Jan 21, 2018 8:38 am

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In post 351, Hinduragi wrote:You can stop trolling now. Noone takes their time to type "I need to take a deep breath, etc etc" right before rampaging on and getting offended. You can respond to what's put forth after you ask or you can stop with this nonsense and start trying to advance forward with your reads in this game.
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Post Post #1304 (isolation #86) » Sun Jan 21, 2018 8:47 am

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{Joey}
{Vax Kaede Nos Maki}
{Dan Cabd Snarky}
{Kotoko Kyoko Kaito}
{Hindu}

Most recent development: On page 17, Kaito and Kokichi were swapped. Kaede has received a demerit for claiming Shuichi is not the superior Ultimate Detective.
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Post Post #1305 (isolation #87) » Sun Jan 21, 2018 8:47 am

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kokichi suppsed to be in the mid tier there
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Post Post #1307 (isolation #88) » Sun Jan 21, 2018 8:55 am

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idk everyone else thinks ash is town maybe i'm just overreacting because i'm mad at him

maki up to hardtown for 462
feeling worse about cabd after further thought?
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Post Post #1308 (isolation #89) » Sun Jan 21, 2018 8:56 am

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In post 1306, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:I think anyone that would like to suspect Kyoko needs to go through this first:
In post 1268, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:Ok another fact that no one has seems to have touched is that there were competing wagons on both AD and boring, there was a sudden push at the end towards Kyoko, which ended in failure and boring got lynched, if we're to assume scum's "Troll" is their VT version of any potential thing they may have, it means Kyoko's almost conftown tiers of town no?

What i don't know is what this means for AD, but i still think he's town, anyone got other thoughts?
And talk to me about why it makes sense for scum to try a desperation lynch at deadline on Kyoko instead of letting boring die.
i would in this case be asserting that the kyoko wagon was not scum driven. i think this is an understandable angle from me considering i drove it. dan is the more likely designated mislynch and scum may have just lost control beyond that. do remember there are probably only two of them aside from boring, they aren't wizards
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Post Post #1309 (isolation #90) » Sun Jan 21, 2018 8:58 am

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In post 484, boring wrote:VOTE: Kyoko Kirigiri - Her posts feel synthetic. The content, the language, all of it.
oh, i forgot about this. :(
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Post Post #1313 (isolation #91) » Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:06 am

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24: kaito up
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Post Post #1314 (isolation #92) » Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:07 am

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In post 606, Kaede Akamatsu wrote:Well now I know who's going to the top of my reads list.
pls halp i want to lynch them.
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Post Post #1315 (isolation #93) » Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:08 am

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never mind, i don't anymore
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Post Post #1316 (isolation #94) » Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:19 am

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this got too dense for me to follow in places, so i didn't bother

still reading tho
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Post Post #1317 (isolation #95) » Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:20 am

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In post 679, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:I have a suggestion.

Hypnocop post night phase, 1 claim. It leaves a trail of innocents for any daughter who is killed/forced to claim. Downside? You'll never get the 1 for 1 where a daughter targets scum and then dies.
This should put the final nail in the coffin of the idea that LLD crumbed anything at all.
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Post Post #1318 (isolation #96) » Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:21 am

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In post 685, Kokichi Oma wrote:Do Daughters have a mason chat or something? If so, they should just coordinate their visits there. The point of everyone doing a pool of 3 like I was mentioning was just so there would be a trail that way and another daughter wouldn't have to claim or be obvious if they know the daughter died from visiting a specific scum.
oh come on you cant possibly have thought this.
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Post Post #1319 (isolation #97) » Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:49 am

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caught up

VOTE: cabd
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Post Post #1320 (isolation #98) » Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:50 am

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complete list of other people i could feel good about lynching right now: kokichi
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Post Post #1322 (isolation #99) » Sun Jan 21, 2018 10:31 am

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Thanks for your contribution! That is very helpful.
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Post Post #1326 (isolation #100) » Sun Jan 21, 2018 3:53 pm

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In post 1128, Cephrir wrote:Because I knew I'd most likely be quicklynched today, so I didn't care
fwiw i realized a while ago that this isn't really true.

might as well say so. i think this was a kneejerk response and if i thought about it for 5 seconds i would have said "i didn't read because i never read at night so it's not a wasted effort if i'm killed."

and then i was backed into a corner and felt like i had to defend instead of correcting it i guess.

i don't expect anyone to care about this, i just felt like posting it
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Post Post #1331 (isolation #101) » Sun Jan 21, 2018 5:19 pm

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In post 1328, Kokichi Oma wrote:Lynch him, if he's town, he's claimed already and is a liability. Just like with Boring.
By this logic, Cabd is a perfectly good lynch.
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Post Post #1332 (isolation #102) » Sun Jan 21, 2018 5:20 pm

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Also, spoilers, doublevoters are gonna keep getting outed if they weren't smart enough to pick day a million.
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Post Post #1333 (isolation #103) » Sun Jan 21, 2018 5:20 pm

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Smart may be the wrong word seeing as we didn't know the mod would do this.
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Post Post #1341 (isolation #104) » Sun Jan 21, 2018 7:11 pm

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In post 1337, ActionDan wrote:I don't see a town Cabd popping in to ask a question about double vote mechanics without at least commenting on Ceph's wagon.
Very much this.
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Post Post #1360 (isolation #105) » Mon Jan 22, 2018 6:35 am

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:/
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Post Post #1364 (isolation #106) » Mon Jan 22, 2018 7:58 am

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In post 1361, Cabd wrote:I know, I know.

I was trying to be excited you're here but then saw you wagoned and for what i saw as a good reason and it was hitofuckshrug.jpg
then run my scum ass into the ground that should be fun right
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Post Post #1366 (isolation #107) » Mon Jan 22, 2018 8:11 am

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bah!
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Post Post #1368 (isolation #108) » Mon Jan 22, 2018 8:45 am

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Maybe you really are the ultimate detective. Or we're idiots.
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Post Post #1374 (isolation #109) » Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:11 am

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In post 1372, Joey_ wrote:Also regarding the Ash's foses, iirc he hardtownread LLD before LLD daughterslipd. So either he tried to hardbuddy his friend who is an obvious wildcard and mightve been lynched if not daughter orrrr hes town
LLD doesn't really get mislynched, so it'd be a perfectly reasonable buddy.

You have a whole rose colored glasses thing going on with everyone all the time, it seems to me.
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Post Post #1379 (isolation #110) » Mon Jan 22, 2018 1:53 pm

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In post 1376, Hinduragi wrote:Yeah, Olaf is scum.
how is this all you have to say rn
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Post Post #1391 (isolation #111) » Tue Jan 23, 2018 3:21 am

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In post 1384, Joey_ wrote:
In post 1374, Cephrir wrote:
In post 1372, Joey_ wrote:Also regarding the Ash's foses, iirc he hardtownread LLD before LLD daughterslipd. So either he tried to hardbuddy his friend who is an obvious wildcard and mightve been lynched if not daughter orrrr hes town
LLD doesn't really get mislynched, so it'd be a perfectly reasonable buddy.

You have a whole rose colored glasses thing going on with everyone all the time, it seems to me.
What is a rose colered glass
what i meant by it is that you're viewing people through a lens based on what you already think of them and that colors how you see their actions. if you think x is scum you tend to see their actions as scummy even if they're not and vice versa
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Post Post #1392 (isolation #112) » Tue Jan 23, 2018 3:23 am

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i think the daughters should keep following kagami's plan personally

it'll be hard to get widespread agreement on something else
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Post Post #1397 (isolation #113) » Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:35 am

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In post 1393, Joey_ wrote:Defeatist attitude, same for vax. Theres one thing easy to control and that daughters should absolutely not do is to hide behind the same person because it gives an auto-loss possibility, which is absurd to let that go to chance
i believe kagami's plan accounts for this

(although i should note that if they make a rule about never hiding in the same place twice, eventually they are guaranteed to hide behind both scum assuming 2)
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Post Post #1409 (isolation #114) » Tue Jan 23, 2018 10:50 am

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no thanks she's town
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Post Post #1411 (isolation #115) » Tue Jan 23, 2018 10:51 am

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i think the ~new plan~ is probably worse than kokichi's plan anyways, so i don't get why it's even part of the discussion
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Post Post #1426 (isolation #116) » Tue Jan 23, 2018 6:26 pm

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Probably has something to do with him being a shining beacon of glorious brilliance
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Post Post #1428 (isolation #117) » Wed Jan 24, 2018 3:22 am

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nah
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Post Post #1430 (isolation #118) » Wed Jan 24, 2018 11:08 am

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Finally someone is paying attention
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Post Post #1445 (isolation #119) » Thu Jan 25, 2018 6:20 am

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go 4 ur dreams
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Post Post #1448 (isolation #120) » Thu Jan 25, 2018 8:02 am

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did i stutter?
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Post Post #1470 (isolation #121) » Fri Jan 26, 2018 6:51 am

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Ok sure let's be interesting

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Post Post #1478 (isolation #122) » Fri Jan 26, 2018 5:17 pm

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If ya always lurker lynch, ya only win if the lurkers are scum.
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Post Post #1493 (isolation #123) » Sat Jan 27, 2018 8:20 am

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In post 1481, SnarkySnowman wrote:@ceph only thing I don't get is your read on cabd, what's the tl;dr on that
i'm suspicious of him for not interacting with my wagon much and for not doing anything. this applies to him in a different way than i would apply it to most people. that said it wouldn't be the first time i've found his town play surprisingly quiet or been annoyed with him for not paying enough attention to me.
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Post Post #1494 (isolation #124) » Sat Jan 27, 2018 8:21 am

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In post 1481, SnarkySnowman wrote:Nosferatu - SCUM
where have you shown me this opinion
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Post Post #1495 (isolation #125) » Sat Jan 27, 2018 8:22 am

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In post 1489, Maki Harukawa wrote:>lol at you people picking legit days for your double votes
blame my predecessor :(
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Post Post #1496 (isolation #126) » Sat Jan 27, 2018 8:23 am

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VOTE: Snarky, I guess
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Post Post #1502 (isolation #127) » Sat Jan 27, 2018 3:30 pm

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to be fair, you've been silent for 15 days soooo
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Post Post #1534 (isolation #128) » Mon Jan 29, 2018 6:52 am

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twist: no scum only death millers
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Post Post #1548 (isolation #129) » Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:34 am

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In post 1542, Kokichi Oma wrote:Also, an idea. Daughters you should check in the confirmed x2 people. Mafia won't kill them, so you don't have to worry about being killed in that way.
sure they will. killing a hider is pointless, they want to avoid doing that
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Post Post #1549 (isolation #130) » Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:35 am

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In post 1546, Hinduragi wrote:I do think there’s 3... Anyone trying to say 3 is likely scum trying to fuddle up thoughts.
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Post Post #1550 (isolation #131) » Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:36 am

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In post 1543, Vaxkiller wrote:I'm wondering this too, we could have up to 4 clears and as little as 2.
we could have as many as 7 and i don't see how fewer than 4 is possible.
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Post Post #1552 (isolation #132) » Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:36 am

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are you guys all nuts

anyway i think it's 3 scum but there's no reason to assume that
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Post Post #1559 (isolation #133) » Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:37 am

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In post 1554, Vaxkiller wrote:possible that daughters hid behind the same person both nights
if they hate winning, sure
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Post Post #1560 (isolation #134) » Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:37 am

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In post 1554, Vaxkiller wrote:We only have 2 daughters alive, times 2 days is 4 max people to hide behind?
4 + 2 daughters = 6 but i was wrong about 7.
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Post Post #1561 (isolation #135) » Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:38 am

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In post 1554, Vaxkiller wrote:I'm also running off the assumption the daughters are not following any type of plan because all plans were non-sense.
well that's a shit assumption
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Post Post #1564 (isolation #136) » Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:43 am

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think it's completely possible they are still rolling with the kagami plan.
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Post Post #1569 (isolation #137) » Mon Jan 29, 2018 12:48 pm

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In post 1486, Kokichi Oma wrote:My reads right now. In no order.

Kaede Akamatsu - Not sure, leaning town.
Hinduragi - Suspicious.
Cabd - Suspicious
Nosferatu - Likely town, based on the silly argument they had yesterday. Probably won't do that as scum.
Maki Harukawa - Meh. Need more time. Leaning maybe null scum.
Kaito Momota - He's prob town.
Cephrir Yuki Takeya - Probably scum.
SnarkySnowman - No clue why people are wagoning this.
Vaxkiller - Maybe town? Not sure. His outburst yesterday was weird.
Joey_ - I don't know yet.
Kyoko Kirigiri - I think she's town based on yesterday's ending.
Kotoko Utsugi - No clue yet. Probably will read over her later.
Kokichi Oma -Town!
ActionDan- I'm not sure yet.
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Post Post #1570 (isolation #138) » Mon Jan 29, 2018 12:49 pm

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unrelatedly, VOTE: Kokichi
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Post Post #1610 (isolation #139) » Mon Jan 29, 2018 1:51 pm

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Is there actually much reason to not out daughters today? It might be nice to remove the option for scum to counterclaim when there's only one left.
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Post Post #1613 (isolation #140) » Mon Jan 29, 2018 1:53 pm

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Eh, ok.
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Post Post #1616 (isolation #141) » Mon Jan 29, 2018 1:55 pm

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I don't really understand what you're getting at, but I'll trust you.
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Post Post #1621 (isolation #142) » Mon Jan 29, 2018 2:21 pm

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I'd think watching how living players interacted with the wagons would be the only legit source of information. Disclaimer: I have not looked at this and likely will not.
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Post Post #1634 (isolation #143) » Mon Jan 29, 2018 7:00 pm

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Not everyone is gonna agree with you. and you know this critique is valid because I am voting kokichi.
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Post Post #1655 (isolation #144) » Tue Jan 30, 2018 3:49 am

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I'm not very excited about being lynched and I feel like you guys just suck if you can't read me at this point.

VOTE: cabd
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Post Post #1658 (isolation #145) » Tue Jan 30, 2018 4:31 am

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A bunch

Just do it
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Post Post #1682 (isolation #146) » Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:33 am

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kind of thinking the scum is more likely dan or kyoko than cabd or vax but no one is going to care what i think :}
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Post Post #1687 (isolation #147) » Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:51 am

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In post 1683, Kokichi Oma wrote:If you really thought that, you wouldn't be voting him.
okay, it must be that i'm scum then.
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Post Post #1688 (isolation #148) » Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:53 am

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In post 1684, Kyoko Kirigiri~ wrote:And nobody will ever care if you cannot support your assertions and blindly vote someone I assume you think is town from that post.
i dont really buy the cabd vote-me play yesterday is scum.

but i'm going along with it right now because i can see my opinion does not matter.

it should be pretty clear that when literally everyone wants to lynch me, i stop caring about the game. surely my early play makes this apparent.
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Post Post #1699 (isolation #149) » Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:01 am

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Hello to you also, hood wearing child.
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Post Post #1700 (isolation #150) » Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:02 am

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In post 1698, Kokichi Oma wrote:How did 2 people die?
Dunno. Scum bonus for being down to one member? Or the last scum is not a double voter?
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Post Post #1710 (isolation #151) » Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:11 am

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In post 1701, Alisae wrote:
In post 1700, Cephrir wrote:
In post 1698, Kokichi Oma wrote:How did 2 people die?
Dunno. Scum bonus for being down to one member? Or the last scum is not a double voter?
WHAT IF
THERE WAS A SURPRISE VIG
THAT WANTED TO SAY HELLO TO SOMEONE
AND THAT HELLO WAS SO SCARY THAT THEY DIED.
You know, I like you.
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Post Post #1711 (isolation #152) » Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:11 am

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In post 1702, Kokichi Oma wrote:
In post 1700, Cephrir wrote:
In post 1698, Kokichi Oma wrote:How did 2 people die?
Dunno. Scum bonus for being down to one member? Or the last scum is not a double voter?
Maybe also, I looked at your day 2 more closely and you're likely town. Since you were snarky's counter wagon.
Welcome to reality!! :p
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Post Post #1713 (isolation #153) » Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:12 am

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Already knew utsugi was town but yes
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Post Post #1717 (isolation #154) » Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:13 am

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In post 1712, Maki Harukawa wrote:VOTE: Nos
Hey have you played with nos much I was thinking this was not in his scum range but my basic for that is minimal so please enlighten me
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Post Post #1720 (isolation #155) » Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:14 am

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In post 1715, Hinduragi wrote:
In post 1706, Kokichi Oma wrote:We are all double voters. Nothing to mass claim.
I’m not and have been hinting for some time now. As long as our daughters don’t claim before me, I can confirm I’m town. It’s why D2 ended the way it did and why I’ve been telling you all I’m confirmed town. Though I’ve also been saying I’m confirmed town because I was hoping no one would believe me and I would live to today.
Um. Are you sure you're not a double voter?
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Post Post #1752 (isolation #156) » Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:37 am

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In post 1747, Kokichi Oma wrote:So mafia killed Joey? Why?
Towniest town that ever towned a town?
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Post Post #1754 (isolation #157) » Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:37 am

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In post 1751, Kokichi Oma wrote:Maki is likely scum for voting so it doesn't matter
Don't be ridiculous.
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Post Post #1768 (isolation #158) » Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:43 am

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In post 1763, Hinduragi wrote:
In post 1760, Alisae wrote:CAN WE FINISH OUR MASSCLAIM PLEASE AND KEEP ALL DICKS AND/OR VOTES IN OUR POCKETS PLEASE
I KNOW WE'RE VERY IMPATIENT TO PLEASE OUR LORD AND SAVIOR BLOOD GOD WITH BLOOD, BUT BLOOD GOD WILL GET HIS BLOOD AND HE CAN WAIT BECAUSE BLOOD GOD IS A GOOD BOY.
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Post Post #1807 (isolation #159) » Thu Feb 01, 2018 10:12 am

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In post 1804, Kokichi Oma wrote:Vax and Ceph where did you both go to claim.
i already claimed
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Post Post #1832 (isolation #160) » Fri Feb 02, 2018 5:44 am

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In post 1831, FakeGod wrote:Nosferatu, , Kaito Momota
scum found

VOTE: " "
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Post Post #1856 (isolation #161) » Fri Feb 02, 2018 12:10 pm

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Literally flip that list upside down
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Post Post #1863 (isolation #162) » Fri Feb 02, 2018 12:19 pm

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In post 1858, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1856, Cephrir wrote:Literally flip that list upside down
Does that mean you townread my slot?
somewhat
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Post Post #1864 (isolation #163) » Fri Feb 02, 2018 12:20 pm

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In post 1859, Maki Harukawa wrote:Why ceph? Dan lead on boring and was a CW
his play in a vacuum is just so blah

was snarky on that cw? if he wasnt then i dont care
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Post Post #1877 (isolation #164) » Fri Feb 02, 2018 2:41 pm

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I hadn't noticed until now that there are only 2 possible daughters

We might as well get their clears
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Post Post #1878 (isolation #165) » Fri Feb 02, 2018 2:41 pm

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*Unless maki is being clever.
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Post Post #1883 (isolation #166) » Fri Feb 02, 2018 2:52 pm

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Actually I didn't read that gamma post the first time but it's not too great
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Post Post #1896 (isolation #167) » Fri Feb 02, 2018 3:12 pm

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In post 1885, Alisae wrote:
In post 1883, Cephrir wrote:Actually I didn't read that gamma post the first time but it's not too great
wow what an ultimate detective you are.
Im just a warthog
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Post Post #1897 (isolation #168) » Fri Feb 02, 2018 3:13 pm

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Good play maki sorry it didn't work out
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Post Post #1898 (isolation #169) » Fri Feb 02, 2018 3:13 pm

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Unless ur being double clever!!!
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Post Post #1899 (isolation #170) » Fri Feb 02, 2018 3:14 pm

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Does Kokichi not have clears
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Post Post #1923 (isolation #171) » Fri Feb 02, 2018 3:39 pm

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Cephrir equips a Mini 12 and a police vest.
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Post Post #1943 (isolation #172) » Fri Feb 02, 2018 4:54 pm

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VOTE: Dan
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Post Post #1981 (isolation #173) » Sat Feb 03, 2018 10:05 am

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kagami basically did that

i was thinking i'd have picked day 6 or 7 as well, as it could potentially let you hammer whoever you want in endgame
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