Fire Emblem: Awakening Mafia (Game Over)

Nero Cain · Post Post #8 (isolation #0) » Mon Aug 26, 2013 9:58 am

Whom can I knock up?

also that Rift Adrift siggy fits Ferry very well.

I'm going to be deleting a lot of your posts this game, aren't I?

Nero Cain · Post Post #11 (isolation #1) » Mon Aug 26, 2013 10:02 am

I don't dp on purpose but yes, you'll likely be deleting a lot of my posts.

Nero Cain · Post Post #28 (isolation #2) » Mon Aug 26, 2013 11:23 am

vote:jasonwazza

Nero Cain · Post Post #66 (isolation #3) » Mon Aug 26, 2013 12:47 pm

I plan on marrying Mastin and I expect twins so she better get fertile.

Nero Cain · Post Post #537 (isolation #4) » Tue Aug 27, 2013 2:28 am

This game was small yesterday. You guys have done a good job trolling it up. Anways, lemme read up.

Nero Cain · Post Post #539 (isolation #5) » Tue Aug 27, 2013 2:32 am

vote:saki

Nero Cain · Post Post #544 (isolation #6) » Tue Aug 27, 2013 2:48 am

@Hana

????? Mastin is like one of my fave players + I, Mastin and Nacho (though his reads are better in small games) are like the top 3 scumhunters and giving us a qt/extra time to scumhunt/and the ability to bounce ideas off of each other seems like a good idea. + Nacho and I normally scum read each other and a qt *might* help Nacho town read me for a change. So I'm just praying that Mastcho is town. And the off chance that we get to add a player like Toast/PA/Maestro. I'm just giddy with excitement.

Nero Cain · Post Post #546 (isolation #7) » Tue Aug 27, 2013 2:52 am

Nero Cain · Post Post #550 (isolation #8) » Tue Aug 27, 2013 3:01 am

I see her large birthing hips.

Also I don't actually know.

Nero Cain · Post Post #572 (isolation #9) » Tue Aug 27, 2013 3:28 am

Chess, are you a single white female?

Nero Cain · Post Post #590 (isolation #10) » Tue Aug 27, 2013 3:44 am

I get lost?

Nero Cain · Post Post #597 (isolation #11) » Tue Aug 27, 2013 3:49 am

maki is scum, chess is town, I am town. Talah might be scum.

Nero Cain · Post Post #641 (isolation #12) » Tue Aug 27, 2013 4:37 am

GCBC can ride in my town pile.

Does Maki normally troll like this?

Nero Cain · Post Post #649 (isolation #13) » Tue Aug 27, 2013 4:50 am

In post 642, BulbaFenix wrote:There's a simple solution to this. If anyone quickhammers without giving intent and waiting for a claim/final reads, they are policy lynched the next day. No exceptions.

Except they supposedly do this regardless of alignment so this "policy" would benefit scum more than town.

Nero Cain · Post Post #654 (isolation #14) » Tue Aug 27, 2013 4:55 am

considering that I was ninja'd like 5 times before this posted, no I didn't read your post. On the bright side, Bulbscum confirms you as town. YAY!!!

Nero Cain · Post Post #656 (isolation #15) » Tue Aug 27, 2013 5:03 am

OH GOD!!!!! THE VINESS!!!

Nero Cain · Post Post #660 (isolation #16) » Tue Aug 27, 2013 5:09 am

but he's scum.

Nero Cain · Post Post #662 (isolation #17) » Tue Aug 27, 2013 5:13 am

Well that was quite fast. You agreed that Bulb was scum real fast.

IDK about Shadi. Is he your buddy or something?

Nero Cain · Post Post #663 (isolation #18) » Tue Aug 27, 2013 5:14 am

all these double posts, Cephrir is gonna LOVE me.

<3

Nero Cain · Post Post #666 (isolation #19) » Tue Aug 27, 2013 5:18 am

In post 667, Saki wrote:Bulb is like Titus, imo. Even if he's town he'll end up helping scum in one way or another.

*snickers*

Nero Cain · Post Post #670 (isolation #20) » Tue Aug 27, 2013 5:22 am

no, I'm not very convinced that Shadi is scum. I've seen stuff like that from town before.

Nero Cain · Post Post #684 (isolation #21) » Tue Aug 27, 2013 5:31 am

In post 678, Saki wrote:
In post 672, Nero Cain wrote:no, I'm not very convinced that Shadi is scum. I've seen stuff like that from town before.
The "Why me?" defense?

I meant the part where he was calling someone scum based off one games meta.

Besides I rather lynch Talah.

Nero Cain · Post Post #685 (isolation #22) » Tue Aug 27, 2013 5:33 am

or bulb, bulb is good too

Nero Cain · Post Post #692 (isolation #23) » Tue Aug 27, 2013 5:37 am

@vig/sk that wants to pretend to be a vig/really nice scumteam

pls shoot maki. thx

mod:please update the op with the members of the hydras

Nero Cain · Post Post #698 (isolation #24) » Tue Aug 27, 2013 5:41 am

In post 692, Rift Adrift wrote:
In post 684, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 678, Saki wrote:
In post 672, Nero Cain wrote:no, I'm not very convinced that Shadi is scum. I've seen stuff like that from town before.
The "Why me?" defense?
I meant the part where he was calling someone scum based off one games meta.

Besides
I rather lynch Talah
.
Explain?

I thought his asking the mod about hidden mechanics was a really dumb question and I think scum like to ask dumb questions. + I don't have a town read on it.

Nero Cain · Post Post #705 (isolation #25) » Tue Aug 27, 2013 5:44 am

@saki: Did you think Shadi was scummy for calling someone scummy for not playing the same as last game?

GoodCop_BadCop wrote:Still waiting for reasons re bulba

is this to me?

Nero Cain · Post Post #719 (isolation #26) » Tue Aug 27, 2013 5:51 am

In post 709, Saki wrote:
In post 706, Nero Cain wrote:@saki: Did you think Shadi was scummy for calling someone scummy for not playing the same as last game?
Easiest half-assed reason to think someone's scum.

FFS!!!

*erases Saki from town list*

If Calc isn't female I call dibs on Maki.

@ GCBC I already gave reasoning for Bulb. I think him wanting to pl saki/maki/jacki/tacki if they hammer without intent a claim w/e is more scum sided than town.

Nero Cain · Post Post #730 (isolation #27) » Tue Aug 27, 2013 5:55 am

no, I changed my mind. I already can't stand Maki so why would I want to hydra with him. Though I'm pretty he's just useless town.

Nero Cain · Post Post #738 (isolation #28) » Tue Aug 27, 2013 6:00 am

In post 728, Saki wrote:
In post 720, Nero Cain wrote:*erases Saki from town list*
if you're townreading me you're doing something wrong anyways

ok hi scum.

vote:saki

Shadi1337 wrote:[quote="In post 721lol, why does that erase Saki from your town list? I don't agree that Saki is scum.

One of the reasons Saki used to call you scum, Talah is also doing. I;e calling Eli scum for playing differently from last game.

Nero Cain · Post Post #755 (isolation #29) » Tue Aug 27, 2013 6:10 am

In post 745, Saki wrote:
In [url=http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=5262088#p5262088]post 741[/url], Nero Cain wrote:
In post 728, Saki wrote:
In post 720, Nero Cain wrote:*erases Saki from town list*
if you're townreading me you're doing something wrong anyways
ok hi scum.

vote:saki

Shadi1337 wrote:[quote="In post 721lol, why does that erase Saki from your town list? I don't agree that Saki is scum.
One of the reasons Saki used to call you scum, Talah is also doing. I;e calling Eli scum for playing differently from last game.
uh sure
wasn't your vote already on me

----uhhhhhhhhhhhhh
----please explain the second paragraph
cant make heads or tails out of it

apparently my vote was already on you but I don't see what that has to do with me now having a scum read on you.

One of your points against Shadi is that he was using one game to meta someone with.
Talah sais he/she was scum reading Eli for not playing the same as last game.

Seems like the same thing to me so why were you scumreading Shadi for it but not scumreading Talah?

Nero Cain · Post Post #769 (isolation #30) » Tue Aug 27, 2013 6:17 am

@saki

I already think Talah is scummy and that you are scummy for selectively scumhunting. +Talahs question.

please stop trolling Maki

Nero Cain · Post Post #788 (isolation #31) » Tue Aug 27, 2013 6:32 am

In post 778, Saki wrote:
In post 773, Nero Cain wrote:
@saki
I already think Talah is scummy and that you are scummy for selectively scumhunting. +Talahs question.

please stop trolling Maki
why not shadi
how/why am I selectively scumhunting
"+ talah's question" what is this

Talah asked about hidden mechanics. Do you think the mod was really going to tell him if there were hidden mechanics.

You were scum reading Shadi for something that Talah was doing ergo selective scumhunting.

Why were you ignoring Talah?

In post 777, Makiavel wrote:
In [url=http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=5262154#p5262154]post 774[/url], Nero Cain wrote:
@saki
I already think Talah is scummy and that you are scummy for selectively scumhunting. +Talahs question.

please stop trolling Maki
how am i trolling, you better explain.

You have a lot of posts and very little game content. I'm just going to ignore you now and pray that you die.

Nero Cain · Post Post #805 (isolation #32) » Tue Aug 27, 2013 6:42 am

its Tuesday....

I have a great idea guys. lets get maki force replaced.

Nero Cain · Post Post #816 (isolation #33) » Tue Aug 27, 2013 6:51 am

between maki and Saki I want to replace out

Nero Cain · Post Post #826 (isolation #34) » Tue Aug 27, 2013 6:57 am

In post 825, Makiavel wrote:Bye. Was nice to play with you, seems like unsocial people can't stand playing with people that actually talk.

Except this is a game and you are not talking about that game. Chatting is for site chat. I've had enough of you.

daykill:maki

Nero Cain · Post Post #985 (isolation #35) » Tue Aug 27, 2013 9:50 am

EVERYONE PROXY ME YOUR VOTE SO I CAN KILL MAKI!!!

Nero Cain · Post Post #989 (isolation #36) » Tue Aug 27, 2013 10:02 am

In post 787, GoodCop_BadCop wrote:Townbloc of {nero, rift, gcbc, sakura, nati, calc, chess} is looking pretty damn good right now. Rift?

CABD, are these names in any particular order?

Nero Cain · Post Post #998 (isolation #37) » Tue Aug 27, 2013 10:26 am

Was he scum or town in monks and masons?

Saki has nearly 300 posts. That needs bullets.

Nero Cain · Tue Aug 27, 2013 10:36 am

In post 1003, Natirasha wrote:
In post 1001, Rift Adrift wrote:
In post 998, Nero Cain wrote:Was he scum or town in monks and masons?

Saki has nearly 300 posts. That needs bullets.
Town.
You sure? Saki shitposting is not alignment-indicative.

if Saki flips scum, I want this dead.

Nero Cain · Tue Aug 27, 2013 10:48 am

So Saki calling Shadi scum for something that Talah was doing and not paying attention to Talah is null to you guys?

Nero Cain · Tue Aug 27, 2013 11:01 am

In post 1018, Sakura Hana wrote:they said they arent voting him for shitposting. That isn't shitposting that is something contradictory in his actions.

I agree.

Though I also said that Saki has nearly 300 posts (scum cluttering up the thread?) and therefore needs death.

Aparently, Nat thought that RA was calling THAT town and said "her shit posting isn't alignment indicative. Which might be a link with Saki like a "you shouldn't town read my buddy" type thing.

I then said I wanted Nat dead if she flips scum.

Both RA and Beli said "nope"

So I asked them why they think that chain of events was shitposting/null.

Nero Cain · Tue Aug 27, 2013 11:09 am

Wait wait wait wait..........you have a town read on Shadi now?

yeah, not buying this.

MORE SAKI VOTES!!!

Nero Cain · Tue Aug 27, 2013 11:12 am

And how are you reading Saki, drift?

Nero Cain · Tue Aug 27, 2013 11:21 am

In post 1039, Saki wrote:I really really don't like Nero atm.

scumreads Falah for 'scumreading someone off one game' which Nero never bothered to explain
when I ask about shadi doing the exact same thing he replies with "I've seen town do that"
later I call shadi scum for it again
Nero: OMFG FALAH DID THAT AND YOU DIDNT SAY ANYTHING YOU MUST BE SCUM
(forgets/overlooks Shadi and Falah in the process)
Then he proceeds to try and come up with random reasons as to why I'm scum
Nat defends me
Nero: OMFG LYNCH NAT

soo
Either Nero is a genius that nailed 4-5 scum
Or he's scum throwing shit at people and looking for what sticks

HEY LOOK!!! Scum is in the discredit stage.

Yeah, I never scumread Falah for scumreading Eli.
I pointed out that I think that Saki was selectively scumhunting Shadi and now she's trying to throw that back into my face.

Also the OMGUS nature of her "scumread" against me. + the fact she's not voting me and only trying to gain support.

lol die scum

Nero Cain · Tue Aug 27, 2013 11:22 am

Why is Drift not giving me their read on Saki?

Nero Cain · Tue Aug 27, 2013 12:36 pm

Even if I'm wrong about Saki, the towns actually moving forward now which proves that CABD was a ineffective town leader.

Nero Cain · Tue Aug 27, 2013 12:39 pm

I'll vig you tonight and we'll see who gets Calc.

What Chess said.

Nero Cain · Tue Aug 27, 2013 12:42 pm

I get to shoot 20 ppl a night.

Nero Cain · Tue Aug 27, 2013 12:46 pm

chess, shut up and vote scumSAKI

Nero Cain · Tue Aug 27, 2013 12:48 pm

I think its the opposite but I'd be ok with killing both.

Nero Cain · Tue Aug 27, 2013 12:49 pm

you are doing fuck all and the scum team will just use you as fodder and be an ez mislynch.

Nero Cain · Tue Aug 27, 2013 12:52 pm

In post 1158, Makiavel wrote:
In post 1153, Makiavel wrote:
In post 1151, Nero Cain wrote:I think its the opposite but I'd be ok with killing both.
if you believe I'm town & Saki is scum, why would you be okay with killing me?
answer nero

I did you clown.

Yea Saki, I'm trying to lynch Maki and not you. die scum.

Nero Cain · Post Post #1187 (isolation #52) » Tue Aug 27, 2013 1:05 pm

In post 1051, Saki wrote:You never scumread Falah? Woah, a discrepancy.

I scum read talah b/c I though she asked a stupid question.I never said that I didn't. YOU said that I scumread her for scumreading Eli, which I never said. Hence why you were trying to discredit my case on you by trying to make it look like I was selectively scumhunting.

You started to call me scummy once the thread got into the 100's, yet you supposedly found me scummy for our back and forth in the 700's so if I was scummy for all that why then did you wait until the pressure on you went up?

So yeah, Saki is scum.

Nero Cain · Post Post #1192 (isolation #53) » Tue Aug 27, 2013 1:20 pm

hi scum beli

Nero Cain · Post Post #1195 (isolation #54) » Tue Aug 27, 2013 1:21 pm

errr nvm, Baltimore is scum.

Nero Cain · Post Post #1197 (isolation #55) » Tue Aug 27, 2013 1:24 pm

In post 1189, Baltimorons wrote: Saki did call both of them out, and voted Shadi due to a different reason:

I don't think this ever happened. Can you quote the post.

Nero Cain · Post Post #1206 (isolation #56) » Tue Aug 27, 2013 1:27 pm

In post 1198, Saki wrote:
In post 533, Saki wrote:Also please don't vote people/scumread people off meta if it's just one game. (I'm looking at you, Shadi/talah)

ok hrmmmm....

Would you be interested in a Talah/Maki flip?

Nero Cain · Post Post #1213 (isolation #57) » Tue Aug 27, 2013 1:35 pm

vote:Maki

Nero Cain · Post Post #1218 (isolation #58) » Tue Aug 27, 2013 1:41 pm

To be quite honest, I think you are destroying the game. I pmed the mod 'cause I think you should be force replaced. You CONTINUE to troll and I frankly don't give a damn if you flip town.

Nero Cain · Post Post #1223 (isolation #59) » Tue Aug 27, 2013 1:43 pm

I called Calc you tool and I'm obv town

Nero Cain · Post Post #1235 (isolation #60) » Tue Aug 27, 2013 1:49 pm

In post 1226, chesskid3 wrote:
In post 1223, Nero Cain wrote:I called Calc you tool and I'm obv town
I was talkin about this last night

im older, respect your elders son.

In post 1227, GoodCop_BadCop wrote:So why did you ask about my townbloc proposal, nero? Did you have objections to anyone in the list?

no I don't have any objections

Nero Cain · Post Post #1254 (isolation #61) » Tue Aug 27, 2013 2:03 pm

@Saki

no its not.

Nero finds Talah scummy for reason X.
Saki finds Shadi scum for reason Y.
Nero asks why Saki finds Shadi scummy for reason Y but not Talah.
Saki says that she was ignoring Talah.

The fact that I was ALREADY scumreading Talah doesn't mean I should scumread her for scumreading Eli.

I'm quite fucking annoyed with your play and still think you are rather scummy. The OMGUS nature of your scumread really bothers me and lying about why I was scumreading Talah is rather bothersome. The way you cluttered up the thread is also very bad. I still think you need death but I don't think I'll get the support needed to kill you today.

Nero Cain · Post Post #1272 (isolation #62) » Tue Aug 27, 2013 2:19 pm

In post 1263, Saki wrote:
In post 1261, GoodCop_BadCop wrote:
In post 1238, GoodCop_BadCop wrote:Operation lynch the fuck out of maki and pair up some town on town action is a go, then.
Objection: chesskid and nero cain should not be allowed to pair.

not that we can but if we could why would you be against our paring?

Nero Cain · Post Post #1283 (isolation #63) » Tue Aug 27, 2013 2:22 pm

oh doesn't matter. Saki is just OMGUS scum but that's ok, she'll be obvious in the coming days.

Nero Cain · Post Post #1295 (isolation #64) » Tue Aug 27, 2013 2:27 pm

you know what? Chess you still want Calc? I'll take drift.

Nero Cain · Post Post #1312 (isolation #65) » Tue Aug 27, 2013 2:32 pm

Drift, who do you want, me or Chess?

Nero Cain · Post Post #1317 (isolation #66) » Tue Aug 27, 2013 2:37 pm

@EVERYONE

In post 726, Saki wrote:
In post 720, Nero Cain wrote:*erases Saki from town list*
if you're townreading me you're doing something wrong anyways

This really comes from town?

Nero Cain · Post Post #1322 (isolation #67) » Tue Aug 27, 2013 2:43 pm

Well whoo, Saki is so obv town. Of course no scum would ever troll up the thread then get pressure on them and be serious. nope.

Nero Cain · Post Post #1327 (isolation #68) » Tue Aug 27, 2013 2:50 pm

null

T S O
JasonWazza
Doomed Hyrule
notscience
beastcharizard
Ellibereth
ActionDan
Thirdkoopa

town

chesskid3
Shadi1337
Sakura Hana
Rift Adrift
PV
Calcifer
GoodCop_BadCop
Natirasha

Scum

talah
Belisarius
Saki
Baltimorons
BulbaFenix
Makiavel<---needs death ASAP

Nero Cain · Post Post #1330 (isolation #69) » Tue Aug 27, 2013 2:52 pm

not that I want to go into right now.

Nero Cain · Post Post #1334 (isolation #70) » Tue Aug 27, 2013 2:54 pm

you're so funny sakiscum

Nero Cain · Post Post #1340 (isolation #71) » Tue Aug 27, 2013 3:00 pm

I thought you said that I convinced you to townread Shadi?

+ When did I join the PV wagon?

Nero Cain · Post Post #1341 (isolation #72) » Tue Aug 27, 2013 3:05 pm

GCBC, what is your read on me?

Nero Cain · Post Post #1354 (isolation #73) » Tue Aug 27, 2013 3:16 pm

In post 1344, GoodCop_BadCop wrote:Hawk will be online soon with his own set of reads and thoughts, though, so it may shift a bit. All the reads so far have been mine (cabd's)

Well I don't really care if you two town read me or scum read me but it should be obvious to anyone that's ever played with me. You just gave me a fence sittery feel, idk.

Nero Cain · Post Post #1377 (isolation #74) » Tue Aug 27, 2013 3:30 pm

In post 1355, Saki wrote:
In post 1340, Nero Cain wrote:I thought you said that I convinced you to townread Shadi?
Newp. I questioned Shadi myself and found his answers acceptable, leaning him towards null.

In post 1032, Saki wrote: @Nero
I revoked my scumread of Shadi a long time ago.

You convinced me.

hi liar scum

Nero Cain · Post Post #1380 (isolation #75) » Tue Aug 27, 2013 3:33 pm

Chess/dan, leave GCBC alone. He's prob town and we should be focusing our energy on the nulls in my list 'cause we already have who needs to die soonish {maki, saki, talah}

Nero Cain · Post Post #1388 (isolation #76) » Tue Aug 27, 2013 3:38 pm

Rift is going to pick between me and you Chess.

Nero Cain · Post Post #1396 (isolation #77) » Tue Aug 27, 2013 3:42 pm

In post 1391, talah wrote:I'm actually pretty good with this.
VOTE: GCBC

See? Told you he was town Chess.

Nero Cain · Post Post #1401 (isolation #78) » Tue Aug 27, 2013 3:43 pm

but Mastin and I think Talah is scum.

Nero Cain · Post Post #1411 (isolation #79) » Tue Aug 27, 2013 3:47 pm

In post 1403, GoodCop_BadCop wrote:
In post 1399, Makiavel wrote:What really surprises me is the fact you have 0 doubts about the 7 or 8 people you consider town, how likely do you believe yourself to be right to have such confidence into going straight in a lynch with me?
I already ranked them in strength order, you know.

???????

You told me they were in no order. Or did you mean the tier thing 'cause surprise surprise, I wasn't there.

chesskid3 wrote:
In post 1401, Nero Cain wrote:but Mastin and I think Talah is scum.
Why? He's overeager, not scum.

Do you think a mod would tell him if a game contains hidden mechanics?

Nero Cain · Post Post #1431 (isolation #80) » Tue Aug 27, 2013 3:55 pm

chess, can we go back to saki?

Nero Cain · Post Post #1441 (isolation #81) » Tue Aug 27, 2013 4:01 pm

In post 1440, notscience wrote:I still havent gotten a satisfactory tl;dr

saki is scum. There

Nero Cain · Post Post #1445 (isolation #82) » Tue Aug 27, 2013 4:03 pm

the mod told me when I daycopped her.

Nero Cain · Post Post #1447 (isolation #83) » Tue Aug 27, 2013 4:05 pm

3rd party

Nero Cain · Post Post #1452 (isolation #84) » Tue Aug 27, 2013 4:08 pm

In post 1449, Makiavel wrote:Mod, will you post whether someone declines a proposal or not?

did you claim male or female?

Nero Cain · Post Post #1457 (isolation #85) » Tue Aug 27, 2013 4:11 pm

I don't even know what a Fire Embalm is. I assume its one of those Japanese cartoons.

Nero Cain · Post Post #1469 (isolation #86) » Tue Aug 27, 2013 4:27 pm

Fery. Do you still think its scummy if ppl use the word kill instead of lynch?

Nero Cain · Post Post #1470 (isolation #87) » Tue Aug 27, 2013 4:29 pm

In post 1324, Saki wrote:
In post 1322, Nero Cain wrote:Well whoo, Saki is so obv town. Of course no scum would ever troll up the thread then get pressure on them and be serious. nope.
Nero is obv town because no scum would hide behind the troll then come up with the worst case on mafiascum as to why he's scum

IMO, the case on you is quite strong. I really don't see why you'd scum read Shadi and ignore Talah like that. I've seen ppl use the why me=fry me reasoning before but I just don't think asking why you are being scumread/not town read is scummy.

I think your reactions are horrible. Lying about why I was scumreading Talah in an attempt to make it look like I was the one selectively scumhunting, the OMGUS nature of your "scumread" on me, claiming all your early gameplay wasn't serious, backing off Shadi and lying about why you did, claiming that I hadn't given a case on you prior to 1099

Your post about how its hard to fake in game content as scum is derptastic

But hey! I'm notorious for not being able to convince the town to lynch scum. But guess what. You ain't gonna make it to lylo so you'll die eventually and maybe mastin of Fery will help me with a case that folks will follow.

Nero Cain · Post Post #1473 (isolation #88) » Tue Aug 27, 2013 4:37 pm

In post 1472, Rift Adrift wrote:
In post 1469, Nero Cain wrote:Fery. Do you still think its scummy if ppl use the word kill instead of lynch?
When I notice it I add it to the mix. There are a lot of conventions, or memes or whatever at MS that don't map very well to mafia as I learned it. And some of it seems to be related to when people started playing on site.

I just remember that one game you called me scummy for using the word kill instead of lynch and wanted to know if you still thought that was scummy 'cause in Saki's ISO she says "kill Nero" so meh.

Nero Cain · Post Post #1475 (isolation #89) » Tue Aug 27, 2013 4:41 pm

Well my job is to lynch scum. What's yours?

Nero Cain · Post Post #1478 (isolation #90) » Tue Aug 27, 2013 4:44 pm

So you wanna wagon Falah with me?

+

you're scum even if you don't have a red pm

Nero Cain · Post Post #1481 (isolation #91) » Tue Aug 27, 2013 4:47 pm

Why is Saki town?

Both Fery and Maki can answer that.

Nero Cain · Post Post #1489 (isolation #92) » Tue Aug 27, 2013 5:01 pm

In post 1482, talah wrote:Hey, Nero. What's your scumread on me about, anyway?

Cause like all I've got right now is "Falah totes derpy question to mod", and "Falah totes derpy suggesting Elli might be scum due to behavioural tell".

So like seriously, wanna spell it out for the class?

my my both you and Saki are saying that I called you scum for scumreading Eli. Which I never ever said. GOGO DISCREDIT STATEMENT

Scum ask questions to the mod that the mod won't answer but I've already said that but its not like scum don't ask the same thing over and over again.

Nero Cain · Post Post #1491 (isolation #93) » Tue Aug 27, 2013 5:07 pm

Nero Cain · Post Post #1495 (isolation #94) » Tue Aug 27, 2013 5:12 pm

In post 1493, talah wrote:Facepalm it away Facepalmy McFacePalm.

The reason you're getting asked to explain your reasoning is you don't have any, and the hem is showing.

yes, I have no reasoning even though Ive explained it like 3 or 4 times. Go die scum.

Nero Cain · Post Post #1500 (isolation #95) » Tue Aug 27, 2013 5:17 pm

nope. You'll just have to suffer, Talah.

What's the point in asking for timezones?

Nero Cain · Post Post #1611 (isolation #96) » Wed Aug 28, 2013 6:09 am

Who am I targeting tonight?

Nero Cain · Post Post #1615 (isolation #97) » Wed Aug 28, 2013 6:23 am

In post 1502, Sakura Hana wrote:@Nero: Do you still think said question at the start of the game holds so much weight on talah? if talah had never posted that question would you still scumread him?

yes

no

In post 1507, BulbaFenix wrote:So when I say that anyone who quickhammers should be PL'd, you call me scum, but when you want to PL based on spam it's ok?

I know my alignment, I don't know yours. PLing in the early game won't hurt town as much (if the PLed player flips town) as a one later down the road. And its a pl that leads to chain lynching. Its also different in the sense that say, well we have having such a hard time reading Maki and he's being such a distraction to scumhunting that he'd do more for the town dead than alive. But I see your point

In post 1515, Shadi1337 wrote:based on?

the fact that you were being attacked by scumSaki. Maki had said something that seemed townish but I don't care enough to look it up.

In post 1515, Shadi1337 wrote:can you explain scum reads:
talah-
asking questions with the intention of making her look pro-town but serve no purpose in moving the game foreword, acting out like my 5 year old cousin including a nice OMGUS vote all while calling bulb her biggest scumread but not voting him.

town reads:
me-
explained

pv-
likely town thanks to that RVS wagon. I don't think he's scum 'cause two of my top scumreads hopped on

calc-
I'm not very good at reading either Nacho or Mastin but I've seen nothing suspisious from either head

ches-
this is Chess town as I remember him

also do you really not find anything outstanding with ns and doomed?

I could see NS scum, don't really see doom.

In post 1517, Saki wrote:No Nero plays by coin flip

yep. gogo discredit statement.

Nero Cain · Post Post #1620 (isolation #98) » Wed Aug 28, 2013 6:28 am

The fuck has happened to this site? Fucking Zwet is better than all the '13 join dates.

Nero Cain · Post Post #1625 (isolation #99) » Wed Aug 28, 2013 6:51 am

In post 1618, Saki wrote:
In post 1615, Nero Cain wrote:yep. gogo discredit statement.
Do something to make me not discredit you, lul

If you were town you'd have no reason to try and discredit my reads. If you don't agree with me reads then fine but running around like a like a kid with a sugarbuzz screaming "NERO'S READS ARE COIN FLIPS" I've given reasons for all my reads and if I didn't ya'll can ask.

I also understand that you are new and new players are notorious for tripping scumtells but in this case I don't think its noobiness talking.

Nero Cain · Wed Aug 28, 2013 7:41 am

Saki claiming that I'm discrediting her when I'm not all "don't listen to her reads" is slightly amusing. And I just arguing with a newbie that doesn't know what things mean?

Nero Cain · Wed Aug 28, 2013 7:54 am

ok?

thanks for answering my question Ffery!

Nero Cain · Wed Aug 28, 2013 7:56 am

Also, can you (Saki) post the questions that you asked Shadi that made you town read him?

Nero Cain · Wed Aug 28, 2013 8:01 am

Also, I read something wrong. Talah doesn't have Bulb as a#1 scum read.

Nero Cain · Wed Aug 28, 2013 8:09 am

That was Eli who said "Is there a single 2013 I should listen to".
Your join date gives away the fact the you are a newb

Not once have I ever said "He's a newbie, so don't listen to him!!!"

and not that last post isn't that.

try harder little scum.

Nero Cain · Wed Aug 28, 2013 8:16 am

No, you were tunneling Shadi until I attacked you and you dropped him so you could OMGUS. And I don't believe for a fucking second that your questions to Shadi gave you a town read.

Whats your Bulb read?

1620 is the closest I've come to discrediting you but there was still no early discrediting as you claim in 1615.

Nero Cain · Wed Aug 28, 2013 8:28 am

The timeline makes no sense.

Nero: Saki is scum for X.
Nero-Saki back and forth.
it drops for a few hundred posts.
Nero:Saki is still scum.
some scummers: oh yea, he's scum
Saki: NERO IZ SCUM FOR R EARLIER BACK N FORTH!!!
Nero:So why weren't you scumreading me back then?
Saki: I wasn't being serious back then...but now I'm being serious.

Calling your attack on me OMGUS, is not discrediting you. ITS WHAT YOU DID.

Nero Cain · Wed Aug 28, 2013 8:38 am

In post 1690, Saki wrote:
In post 1687, Nero Cain wrote:The timeline makes no sense.

Nero: Saki is scum for X.
Nero-Saki back and forth.
it drops for a few hundred posts.
Nero:Saki is still scum.
some scummers: oh yea, he's scum
Saki: NERO IZ SCUM FOR R EARLIER BACK N FORTH!!!
Nero:So why weren't you scumreading me back then?
Saki: I wasn't being serious back then...but now I'm being serious.

Calling your attack on me OMGUS, is not discrediting you. ITS WHAT YOU DID.
Accurate.

Which part of it makes no sense?

Also, if I wanted to OMGUS, I could've done it earlier or to many other people.

It makes no sense 'cause you are claiming that you weren't OMGUS attacking me yet this shows that you obviously were.

There was never any PRESSURE on you until my attacks on you in the 1000's. An OMGUS attack on me would ONLY serve to bring attention to yourself. So there's plenty of reason not bring attention to yourself as scum.

Nero Cain · Wed Aug 28, 2013 8:39 am

dunno what Hana is on about but w/e.

Nero Cain · Wed Aug 28, 2013 8:42 am

Yea, the speculating on the babies alignment is just all around bad.

Nero Cain · Wed Aug 28, 2013 8:45 am

In post 1708, Saki wrote:
In post 1698, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 1690, Saki wrote:
In post 1687, Nero Cain wrote:The timeline makes no sense.

Nero: Saki is scum for X.
Nero-Saki back and forth.
it drops for a few hundred posts.
Nero:Saki is still scum.
some scummers: oh yea, he's scum
Saki: NERO IZ SCUM FOR R EARLIER BACK N FORTH!!!
Nero:So why weren't you scumreading me back then?
Saki: I wasn't being serious back then...but now I'm being serious.

Calling your attack on me OMGUS, is not discrediting you. ITS WHAT YOU DID.
Accurate.

Which part of it makes no sense?

Also, if I wanted to OMGUS, I could've done it earlier or to many other people.
It makes no sense 'cause you are claiming that you weren't OMGUS attacking me yet this shows that you obviously were.

There was never any PRESSURE on you until my attacks on you in the 1000's. An OMGUS attack on me would ONLY serve to bring attention to yourself. So there's plenty of reason not bring attention to yourself as scum.
Except that I'm bathing in attention right now

Of course you are NOW. But back when I was attacking you in the 700's you didn't get a lot of attention. You didn't attack me UNTIL I brought attention to you. I think the reason that you did not attack me originally is to attempt that I'd leave you alone.

Nero Cain · Wed Aug 28, 2013 8:46 am

In post 1717, chesskid3 wrote:Sakura scumslipped in the post I quoted guys. Townpoints to whoever finds it

So you think she's shadowing Talah?

Nero Cain · Wed Aug 28, 2013 8:58 am

In post 1723, Saki wrote:
In post 1719, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 1708, Saki wrote:
In post 1698, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 1690, Saki wrote:
In post 1687, Nero Cain wrote:The timeline makes no sense.

Nero: Saki is scum for X.
Nero-Saki back and forth.
it drops for a few hundred posts.
Nero:Saki is still scum.
some scummers: oh yea, he's scum
Saki: NERO IZ SCUM FOR R EARLIER BACK N FORTH!!!
Nero:So why weren't you scumreading me back then?
Saki: I wasn't being serious back then...but now I'm being serious.

Calling your attack on me OMGUS, is not discrediting you. ITS WHAT YOU DID.
Accurate.

Which part of it makes no sense?

Also, if I wanted to OMGUS, I could've done it earlier or to many other people.
It makes no sense 'cause you are claiming that you weren't OMGUS attacking me yet this shows that you obviously were.

There was never any PRESSURE on you until my attacks on you in the 1000's. An OMGUS attack on me would ONLY serve to bring attention to yourself. So there's plenty of reason not bring attention to yourself as scum.
Except that I'm bathing in attention right now
Of course you are NOW. But back when I was attacking you in the 700's you didn't get a lot of attention. You didn't attack me UNTIL I brought attention to you. I think the reason that you did not attack me originally is to attempt that I'd leave you alone.
So you're guilty of not pushing your scumread until 300 posts later?

No, I attacked you because I was getting serious.

lol. Keep trying to discredit. I also don't buy the fact that you weren't serious 'cause your attack on Shadi was serious. No, you're scum and didn't want to attack me until you were under pressure. Good day sum.

Nero Cain · Wed Aug 28, 2013 8:59 am

In post 1744, Saki wrote:Are we going to make d2 irl another 1k post day?

ugh

This is weird as fuck 'cause town are getting things done and you seem upset about it?

Nero Cain · Wed Aug 28, 2013 9:04 am

We still need to figure out who proposes to whom so we don't double propose.

Nero Cain · Wed Aug 28, 2013 9:07 am

Ima propose to Mastcho.
chess should take Rift.

Nero Cain · Wed Aug 28, 2013 9:11 am

Saki, Bulb read.

Nero Cain · Wed Aug 28, 2013 9:13 am

vote:Hana

Nero Cain · Wed Aug 28, 2013 9:27 am

Who is a better target?

Nero Cain · Wed Aug 28, 2013 9:32 am

In post 1826, Makiavel wrote:
In post 1821, chesskid3 wrote:
In post 1820, Makiavel wrote:Also let's note that the theory Sakura mentionned was mentionned even earlier by someone else if I remember correctly.
Link, pl0x
I'm so not going to browse through 60 pages, but I do remember it was when people kept talking about babies & were obsessed with them, was during the first day topic was opened. I might search for it if I have time later. (Also, I need to hurry & go eat, didn't eat all day, it's 10PM.)

it was Talah, it wasn't the same but kinda similar.

Nero Cain · Wed Aug 28, 2013 9:34 am

In post 1825, Natirasha wrote:I reject PeregrineV's marriages.

I intend to propose to Calcifer right now. I know that they haven't posted here in a while but I like what I've seen and I seriously want to marry into a hydra for gamebreaking reasons. The other two non-claimed femhydras are Robin(prob scum via flavor) and BulbaFenix(who i actually have a minor townread on, but not enough to marry them).

oh crap. Chess wanted Rift and now you wanted my second choice.

Nero Cain · Wed Aug 28, 2013 9:35 am

In post 1831, Makiavel wrote:
In [url=http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=5267148#p5267148]post 1830[/url], Nero Cain wrote:
In post 1826, Makiavel wrote:
In post 1821, chesskid3 wrote:
In post 1820, Makiavel wrote:Also let's note that the theory Sakura mentionned was mentionned even earlier by someone else if I remember correctly.
Link, pl0x
I'm so not going to browse through 60 pages, but I do remember it was when people kept talking about babies & were obsessed with them, was during the first day topic was opened. I might search for it if I have time later. (Also, I need to hurry & go eat, didn't eat all day, it's 10PM.)
it was Talah, it wasn't the same but kinda similar.
So why do you always double post?

My posts are so good the comp posts them twice

Nero Cain · Wed Aug 28, 2013 9:37 am

In post 1833, Makiavel wrote:gotta explain how u guys read bulba as town, my mind = blown

I think I was like the first to ever call bulb scum but there's some stuff I can't go into right now.

Nero Cain · Wed Aug 28, 2013 9:48 am

I'd marry Hana if we don't lynch her but I'm particularly angry about her BW vote and now a lil' more iffy on her

Nero Cain · Wed Aug 28, 2013 9:51 am

I'd be worried if Hana kinda gave up like this in the later game. Killing her now might be the best option. idk. *sits on fence*

Saki is still scum though.

Nero Cain · Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:00 am

And yes Hana. I'm pretty wary 'cause your vote on me was nothing more than a wagon hop. The only real "reason" you gave is that I contradicted myself but you didn't even bother to read my explanation wich makes it look like you weren't even interested in figured out your read on me. + your self vote + ATE just ugh.

Nero Cain · Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:08 am

Saki calling me lazy is fucking hilarious.

Nero Cain · Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:10 am

When did I or anyone call her lazy?

Nero Cain · Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:13 am

In post 1953, Saki wrote:
In post 1950, Nero Cain wrote:Saki calling me lazy is fucking hilarious.
Everyone calling Saki lazy is fucking hilarious*

In post 1959, Saki wrote:
In post 1956, Nero Cain wrote:When did I or anyone call her lazy?
Why must everything be about you, you self-centered little shit

Cabd did
And you're lazy

if anyone shoots this I will send you an invention.

Nero Cain · Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:21 am

I should prob stop replying to Saki but its so funny to hear that next stupid thing out of his mouth. "Nero is lazy, Nero iz derpy"

Anyways, I think I should really stop posting. I'm ok on lynches on Saki, Talah, Hana and maybe NS.

Nero Cain · Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:28 am

hey chess, who am I proposing to?

Nero Cain · Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:30 am

In post 1998, chesskid3 wrote:Hrm. Who did you want outside of Calcifer/Rift?

dunno, who made that female list?

Nero Cain · Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:44 am

yuck, I don't particularly like anyone outside of Rift/Calc. Dan is prob town but I'm not exactly thrilled to talk to him in QT. I'd be okay with Hana if it were pre-bandwagon and ATE. I guess I can do Dan if we're aiming for tow/town. Or do one of NS, Bulb to try and get a better read.

I guess Bulb could be fun.

Nero Cain · Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:50 am

You said you wanted Calc. I'll talk Bulb if that's what you want.

Nero Cain · Wed Aug 28, 2013 12:05 pm

I've played with Bulb twice. I've played with Nacho and Mastin extensively but I wouldn't say I can read them.

BULB PREPARE TO GET A BATTERING RAM TONIGHT!!!

Nero Cain · Thu Aug 29, 2013 2:32 am

Sometimes you can get better reads on ppl via hoods.

but that's a moot point 'cause I'm marrying Bulb. It looks like your terrible in more than just lylo.

Nero Cain · Thu Aug 29, 2013 2:32 am

Sometimes you can get better reads on ppl via hoods.

but that's a moot point 'cause I'm marrying Bulb. It looks like your terrible in more than just lylo.

Nero Cain · Thu Aug 29, 2013 5:36 am

haha. Calc doesn't want Nat.

Nero Cain · Thu Aug 29, 2013 6:14 am

In post 2392, beastcharizard wrote: Nero, i presented my case. Feel free to rebut it with facts instead of insults.

I don't think my telling you that I'm willing to marry Hana to get a better read on her is insulting you.

Your case is terrible 'cause A.) I'm town B.) I've found scum in Saki/Talah C.) Your case sucks and has more holes in it then Swiss Cheese. See Exhibit A-E.

Exhibit A

At this point I think voting Saki got people free town points so they must be capitalizing on that.

How does that work? Saki didn't have a lot of heat and her and she wasn't generally despised by the town until *I* attacked him.

Exhibit B

They then proceed to complain about everything, saying they want to get people force replaced or replace out themselves.

Maki and Saki were really cluttering up the thread which is utterly anti-town. Are you telling me that you were ok with their trolling and getting town to focus on them? +its not like I was the only one annoyed with their play so why focus on me?

Exhibit C

They have asked the whole thread their view on Saki which I understand wanting to get someone lynched since you think they are scummy but they are fishing for votes.

So......I think Saki is scummy and want Saki dead and its ok for me to ask about it her but its not ok for me to try and get votes on something I think is scum? How do you think we get lynches in this game? This is a classic talking out of both sides of your mouth. GJ scum.

Exhibit D

Policy lynches are stupid to me so pushing them is at best anti-town but since I already think they are scummy I am going to add this to my list of scum tells.

So why exactly do you think its a good idea to leave players alive that are both hard to read + hurting scum hunting? So Bulb is a scumread right?

Exhibit E

It seems they will marry anyone.

So 2009 says that I want to marry anyone? Maki was moaning and crying for pages on end asking for marriage so by that same logic he's scum, right?

Nero Cain · Thu Aug 29, 2013 6:17 am

+
I'm not getting lynched like EVER. I mean, I'm not exactly a high volume nk target so players could get paranoid on me later on so all the votes on me seem "safe" 'cause I'm not going to get lynched anytime soon.

Nero Cain · Thu Aug 29, 2013 6:40 am

I'm OMGUS' Beast, that's where my vote is.

You have no points against me. You've gone into the potshot stage. You aren't making points against me, you are taking random potshots like your "Nero is flipping a coin" 'cause you are immature and frustrated. Weather that makes you scum or town, idk and idc. I am completely ok with Nacho's suggestion of killing you by day 3.

Nero Cain · Thu Aug 29, 2013 6:42 am

Also. Saki, I'm not going to go through your ISO and look for your Bulb read so either quote it or restate it.

Nero Cain · Thu Aug 29, 2013 8:18 am

In post 2432, Saki wrote:
In post 2429, Nero Cain wrote:I'm OMGUS' Beast, that's where my vote is.

You have no points against me. You've gone into the potshot stage. You aren't making points against me, you are taking random potshots like your "Nero is flipping a coin" 'cause you are immature and frustrated. Weather that makes you scum or town, idk and idc. I am completely ok with Nacho's suggestion of killing you by day 3.
Nero
holy shit

Now you're saying I have no reason to be scumreading you
after what, 30 fucking pages of me arguing why

????

I presented a case on you. You "refuted" it by lying about the facts that were presented. Once the pressure ramped up on you, you were all like "ZOMG NERO IS SCUM AFTERALL"

I have enough town cred and anyone with the ability to correctly read me is already reading me correctly as town so if you and some crap 2013ers find me scum then so be it, its no skin off me back.

There is no "now/all the sudden". We've had our back and forth and I have no intention of arguing with a Vi. Like I said, all your doing now is taking lil' potshots at me like this post...

In post 2435, Saki wrote:
In [url=http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=5269887#p5269887]post 2431[/url], Nero Cain wrote:I'm not going to go through your ISO
if you aren't going to look through someone's ISO you probably shouldn't be calling them scum

Wich is taken out of context and its only purpose is to make it look like I'm not reading you.

I'm not skilled enough to know if your behavior is noob town or noob scum but you'll be dying eventfully.

I'm pretty paranoid. Talah is scum so I'm not even worried about his vote. I didn't appreciate your OMGUS attack on me. Both Char and Hana's make no sense. Char I've stated. Hana's really didn't have a reason and her closest reasoning to voting me...she didn't read my explanation to and she's not talking to me at all so it looks like she has no intention of figuring out my alignment.

I think Nat is town. I've never played with Nat so I'm kinda relying on others that have played with him. Also he hasn't done anything scummy, IMO.

Nero Cain · Thu Aug 29, 2013 8:20 am

*eventually

Nero Cain · Thu Aug 29, 2013 8:21 am

In post 2531, GoodCop_BadCop wrote:
In post 2526, Nero Cain wrote:We've had our back and forth and I have no intention of arguing with a Vi
Oh shit, no you didn't. He's gonna flay you.
~BC

Well of course. I'm running for me life.

Nero Cain · Thu Aug 29, 2013 8:33 am

In post 2539, talah wrote:Hi Nero.

NEWSFLASH: I'M NOT FUCKING SCUM SO YOU'RE WRONG. GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEAD.

I asked why you're reading Nati, because all you've said about me being scum is that I asked the mod a stupid question.

I then elaborated on my reasons for asking.

A couple of pages back Nati asked the Mod a question
which had already been asked
. Ergo stupid.

Can you specify the difference between the two. And reiterate your
reason
for scumreading me, like I've asked at least a couple of times now. Thanks.

I think there's a big difference between his question and yours. The mod already stated that "The only closed aspect is how the child's alignment is determined." There's also no fucking way that the mod would tell you if scum has daytalk.

Nero Cain · Thu Aug 29, 2013 8:39 am

lol. You so funny Saki.

Niether you nor Talah were scumreading me until I attacked ya'll. If you wanna attack/mock me atleast get your facts right.

Nero Cain · Thu Aug 29, 2013 8:48 am

In post 2551, talah wrote:
In post 2548, Nero Cain wrote:I think there's a big difference between his question and yours. The mod already stated that "The only closed aspect is how the child's alignment is determined." There's also no fucking way that the mod would tell you if scum has daytalk.
So now I know. Who cares? What's my motivation as scum for asking questions which I want to know the answer to?
What's your motivation as town for scumreading without backing up your own cases with very little valid reasoning? Is this that tunnelling-scumunting that someone mentioned awhile ago? I don't get it.

Scum ask the mod questions that the mod won't answer 'cause it makes them look pro-town. You can quote where the mod "responded" to your first question all you want but there's no fucking way he'd ever go "yep there are hidden mechanics and I'm going to tell you what those are!".

I've explained why I'm scumreading both you and Saki. If you want to argue that my reasons are not valid then fine but saying that I'm not backing up my cases is just lol.

Nero Cain · Thu Aug 29, 2013 8:59 am

if there is a sterilization role in this game I will be so happy.

We shouldn't be letting those that we want dead in the next few days 'cause we won't be able to see their flips.

No marriage for Saki, talah, NS or Hana

Nero Cain · Thu Aug 29, 2013 9:05 am

I'm actually really nice but I don't trust you and there's no reason for you to get married if we are flipping you.

notscience wrote:I don't like how he's lined up lynches on me and my 3 biggest townreads.

there death are janatorized until the whole family dies. How does that help town? Explain your town reads.

Nero Cain · Thu Aug 29, 2013 9:13 am

In post 2585, notscience wrote: I'm bugged by you trying to line up lynches.

So what, you just want to lynch willy nilly and wait around for flips from whole families to die before we get flips?

Why did you vote me?

Nero Cain · Thu Aug 29, 2013 9:16 am

Saki, why do you refer to NS as "we"

Nero Cain · Thu Aug 29, 2013 9:17 am

In post 2592, notscience wrote:Because Saki had a good point.

what point?

Nero Cain · Thu Aug 29, 2013 9:24 am

In post 2599, notscience wrote:
In post 2565, Saki wrote:
In [url=http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=5270397#p5270397]post 2564[/url], Nero Cain wrote:I've explained why I'm scumreading both you and Saki. If you want to argue that my reasons are not valid then fine but saying that I'm not backing up my cases is just lol.
........

The dots were a good point?

In post 2600, Saki wrote:
In post 2595, Nero Cain wrote:Saki, why do you refer to NS as "we"
Not ns, 'we' as in the town.

Because Sakura lynch is not going to happen

Even if we don't lynch Hana my point still stands. We don't get flips until a whole family gets married so scum have a motivation to get married to town 'cause we'd have to flip town in order to get the scumflip. We should NOT let people we intend to flip marry.

And this was a question to NS and I don't see why you'd answer it.

Nero Cain · Thu Aug 29, 2013 9:26 am

err, whole family gets killed

Nero Cain · Thu Aug 29, 2013 9:28 am

Saki lying and claiming that I'm not backing up my cases and me pointing that out is scummy?

Nero Cain · Thu Aug 29, 2013 9:31 am

In post 2615, Saki wrote:
In post 2610, Nero Cain wrote:Even if we don't lynch Hana my point still stands. We don't get flips until a whole family gets married so scum have a motivation to get married to town 'cause we'd have to flip town in order to get the scumflip. We should NOT let people we intend to flip marry.

And this was a question to NS and I don't see why you'd answer it.
Obviously what 'we' want does not accord to what 'you' want.

This has nothing to do with what I want. It has to do with whats best for the town. Having a plethora of janantorized flips is only good for the scum.

Nero Cain · Thu Aug 29, 2013 9:34 am

no, I just click submit once but sometimes it doesn't do anything. Its like I have to click hard. I'll look into a new mouse when I get paid.

Nero Cain · Thu Aug 29, 2013 9:36 am

In post 2621, talah wrote:Hey 2009, you don't double-click web links. Single-click in a browser, only.

totally uncalled for. The immaturity from you 13ers is sad.

Nero Cain · Thu Aug 29, 2013 9:37 am

In [url=http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=5270551#p5270551]post 2619[/url], Nero Cain wrote:
In post 2615, Saki wrote:
In post 2610, Nero Cain wrote:Even if we don't lynch Hana my point still stands. We don't get flips until a whole family gets married so scum have a motivation to get married to town 'cause we'd have to flip town in order to get the scumflip. We should NOT let people we intend to flip marry.

And this was a question to NS and I don't see why you'd answer it.
Obviously what 'we' want does not accord to what 'you' want.
This has nothing to do with what I want. It has to do with whats best for the town. Having a plethora of janantorized flips is only good for the scum.

respond to this.

Nero Cain · Thu Aug 29, 2013 9:49 am

In post 2626, Saki wrote:
In post 2618, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 2615, Saki wrote:
In post 2610, Nero Cain wrote:Even if we don't lynch Hana my point still stands. We don't get flips until a whole family gets married so scum have a motivation to get married to town 'cause we'd have to flip town in order to get the scumflip. We should NOT let people we intend to flip marry.

And this was a question to NS and I don't see why you'd answer it.
Obviously what 'we' want does not accord to what 'you' want.
This has nothing to do with what I want. It has to do with whats best for the town. Having a plethora of janantorized flips is only good for the scum.
no, it's what you want

I don't think anyone else is agreeing to lynch Sakura/Makiavel

It is my personal wish to see you 4 flip. Nacho said he's ok with having you flip by day 3. No one trusts NS. Bulb also wants Talah blood. Mastin said she wanted Talah blood, but that was awhile ago and may have changed.

Maybe its just that you are on my hitlist and your getting mad about it but there's reason for not letting players get married that we intend to flip.

Sure there's lining up lynchs but in this set up, with this mechanic, there's town motivation to do so.

Nero Cain · Thu Aug 29, 2013 10:01 am

In post 2642, GoodCop_BadCop wrote:Here's kind of where I'm at.

I townread sakura well enough now that I feel I'm safe marrying her. I'm confident enough that if we should later find out she's scum for whatever reason, I'm willing to die to make the flip happen. Anyone entering into a marriage with another player pretty much needs to be willing to do the same.

~BC

or maybe not let certain players marry?

Nero Cain · Thu Aug 29, 2013 10:06 am

In post 2647, GoodCop_BadCop wrote:
In post 2644, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 2642, GoodCop_BadCop wrote:Here's kind of where I'm at.

I townread sakura well enough now that I feel I'm safe marrying her. I'm confident enough that if we should later find out she's scum for whatever reason, I'm willing to die to make the flip happen. Anyone entering into a marriage with another player pretty much needs to be willing to do the same.

~BC
or maybe not let certain players marry?
Ffery covered this. There's no way we'll effectively be able to enforce this. The "ooh shiney" factor is overwhelming. This is trying to enforce gate usage all over again...
~BC

prob, but do you agree?

Do you think we should have a list of folks we do not want married and if they marry, pl them?

Nero Cain · Thu Aug 29, 2013 10:26 am

In post 2660, Saki wrote:
In post 2636, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 2626, Saki wrote:
In post 2618, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 2615, Saki wrote:
In post 2610, Nero Cain wrote:Even if we don't lynch Hana my point still stands. We don't get flips until a whole family gets married so scum have a motivation to get married to town 'cause we'd have to flip town in order to get the scumflip. We should NOT let people we intend to flip marry.

And this was a question to NS and I don't see why you'd answer it.
Obviously what 'we' want does not accord to what 'you' want.
This has nothing to do with what I want. It has to do with whats best for the town. Having a plethora of janantorized flips is only good for the scum.
no, it's what you want

I don't think anyone else is agreeing to lynch Sakura/Makiavel

It is my personal wish to see you 4 flip. Nacho said he's ok with having you flip by day 3. No one trusts NS. Bulb also wants Talah blood. Mastin said she wanted Talah blood, but that was awhile ago and may have changed.

Maybe its just that you are on my hitlist and your getting mad about it but there's reason for not letting players get married that we intend to flip.

Sure there's lining up lynchs but in this set up, with this mechanic, there's town motivation to do so.
It's your personal wish.
You're trying to make it work with everyone else.

I'm not getting lynched today, neither is Makiavel or Sakura. Stop being mad about
that
.

So stop.
Self centered much

Christ, its like talking to a brick wall.

Janatorized flips=bad for town

therefore I think its pro-town to NOT marry players we want dead so that we won't have to kill a whole family to get the flips of the whole family.

Nero Cain · Thu Aug 29, 2013 1:14 pm

In post 2734, beastcharizard wrote:
In post 2419, Nero Cain wrote:
Exhibit E

It seems they will marry anyone.
So 2009 says that I want to marry anyone? Maki was moaning and crying for pages on end asking for marriage so by that same logic he's scum, right?
Yes Maki is scum. I have stated that previously. The only reason I did not vote them is because their lynch seemed liked a policy lynch and I will not be a part of a policy lynch no matter what.

I see this from noobie scum a lot. It cheap town cred to be against a "policy lynch" but there's no reason to be against it if you were scumreading him.

I like that fact that Nero took the time to address everything I said about them being scum. That didn't argue with me about stupid stuff like they did with Saki and that left a good impression on me. I am not active like Saki though and I don't needlessly argue with people.
When someone wants others to join a wagon they need to state reason and not just ask. I remember you just telling people to join the wagon and not giving them actually reasons. This whole game people have been wanting Saki to die because they post "annoying" and "stupid" things.

Yea, I don't think I argued with Saki about anything stupid. I really hate this post, its like you've taken all the bullshit and your just shadowing him now. Obviously you aren't reading if you think I've given no reasoning for suspecting Saki and even if you think that I didn't give any reasoning for Saki, why wouldn't you suspect those players that jumped on Saki?

Not ISOing someone with a fuck ton of post is not scummy. It isn't even anti-town. It means they don't want to shift through all of the posts the player has. I think it was Saki who said something about not ISOing someone was scummy. I might be wrong though.

It was Saki. Its posts like that is why I read Saki as scummy. It was taken out of context. I've read Saki, I've ISO'd him before. There's nothing scummy about not wanting to go through a 3 page ISO that's full of clutter.

Why did you answer none of my questions? Also ty for confirming me.

Nero Cain · Thu Aug 29, 2013 1:23 pm

These are the only ppl the I'm comfortable with getting married. Therefore I'd like to see these players marry each other. I am totes against a Hana-GCBC marriage though.

male
GoodCop_BadCop
Natirasha
Nero Cain
PegerineV
chesskid3
Ellibereth
Maestro

female
BulbaFenix
Calcifer
Makiavel
Rift Adrift
Thirdkoopa
ActionDan (can't have children)

I'm going to propose to Calc, but if Calc wants Eli they can just deny me.

Nero Cain · Thu Aug 29, 2013 1:31 pm

I'm wary of Hana and I wouldn't mind to see her flip soonish and having to flip GCBC isn't very appealing to me.

What about the rest of it?

Nero Cain · Thu Aug 29, 2013 2:01 pm

So tell me why you think its a good idea to marry ppl that we are going to flip?

Nero Cain · Thu Aug 29, 2013 2:12 pm

but how would me know a player is scum unless we kill the whole family?

Which is my whole point.

You and Saki want to make this all about you 2013ers but its not.

This is about what's best for the town and janorterized flips ARE NOT good for the town.

So I ask again, why should town marry those they intend to flip?

TOP 5 SCUM READS GO!!!!

Nero Cain · Thu Aug 29, 2013 2:26 pm

look at NS dance!!!

vote:NS

janortorized flips=bad for the town.
NS is okay with janitorized flips.

Nero Cain · Thu Aug 29, 2013 2:30 pm

In post 2771, GoodCop_BadCop wrote:Also...

<---is from 2013

~BC

YOU'RE FROM 2013!!! OMG I WANT TO LYNCH YOU NOA!!!

Nero Cain · Thu Aug 29, 2013 2:32 pm

In post 2771, Sakura Hana wrote:Actually i think the 5 at the bottom are his top 5 scumreads and is unrelated to the above statement, clarify that ns?

Which has shit all to do with anything.

Nero Cain · Thu Aug 29, 2013 2:33 pm

In post 2773, GoodCop_BadCop wrote:Okay yeah I missed that but those are really shit reads.
~BC

The BC red is okay as he doesn't look super townie or anything.

Nero Cain · Thu Aug 29, 2013 2:42 pm

Which is exactly why we should try not to get a town scum pair.

I mean there's no way we can really force anyone to not get married but putting someone we want to see a flip from and someone we don't really wanna kill makes no sense to me.

Nero Cain · Thu Aug 29, 2013 2:44 pm

In post 2787, Doomed Hyrule wrote:o shit.
I think my computer became nero-fied.

Nero Cain · Thu Aug 29, 2013 2:48 pm

In post 2788, notscience wrote:Who died and made you town leader?

Who made you the one who gets to decide who we want to lynch?

That's bullshit.

There's no town leader bullshit and no one is like "oh Nero wants to lynch this person" and the town all follows me.

No. I am voicing my opinion 'cause a townies greatest weapon is his/her voice. And I think we should avoid someone we want flipped and someone we don't want flipped together.

Nero Cain · Thu Aug 29, 2013 2:52 pm

+your bullshit about me wanting to lynch 2013ers just 'cause they are 2013ers looks like scumWAH WAH WAH!!!

Why are you ignoring me Hana?

Nero Cain · Thu Aug 29, 2013 2:55 pm

In post 2805, Sakura Hana wrote:What am i ignoring of you? i thought you were talking with ns all the time.

I was. Just earlier I had made a few posts that mentioned you and I thought you might reply, that's all.

Nero Cain · Thu Aug 29, 2013 4:34 pm

In post 2897, talah wrote:Not backing up his case has me feeling a bit OMGUSy, but if that's his way of scumhunting then meh.

oh yeah, you totes attacked me long before I attacked you.

Nero Cain · Thu Aug 29, 2013 5:05 pm

In post 2903, talah wrote:
In post 2899, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 2897, talah wrote:Not backing up his case has me feeling a bit OMGUSy, but if that's his way of scumhunting then meh.
oh yeah, you totes attacked me long before I attacked you.
You totes read that sentence correctly.

Yes your 1532 comes wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyy before my 597.

Nero Cain · Thu Aug 29, 2013 5:09 pm

oh.......I got it now. but, w/e. I did back it up. I find it horrible that all of you Saki, you, BC and NS think I'm running around the thread not given any reasoning. Yea, I highly highly doubt that all 4 f you are scum but I wouldn't be surprised to see atleast one.

Nero Cain · Thu Aug 29, 2013 7:53 pm

you really think NS is town?

Nero Cain · Fri Aug 30, 2013 4:47 am

In post 2942, Saki wrote:
In post 2752, Nero Cain wrote:I am totes against a Hana-GCBC marriage though.
thought you said you'd marry her

changed my mind

In post 2751, Nero Cain wrote:I've read Saki, I've ISO'd him before. There's nothing scummy about not wanting to go through a 3 page ISO that's full of clutter.
you've gone through my iso now?
you've pretty much made it clear that you haven't based on your previous posts

lol no. There a large difference between not having done something and not wanting to do it again.

In post 2751, Nero Cain wrote:It was taken out of context.
your initial scumread on me was taken out of context

So you did find Talah scummy?

In post 2762, Nero Cain wrote:So tell me why you think its a good idea to marry ppl that we are going to flip?
WE ARE NOT FLIPPING SAKURA MAKIAVEL BEASTCHARIZARD OR T S O

Why TSO, I've never mentioned him? Why do you have a town read on that? + I haven't mentioned flipping Maki in a long while so....why do you keep mentioning that you don't want a Maki flip?

In post 2945, Saki wrote:
In post 2764, Nero Cain wrote:but how would me know a player is scum unless we kill the whole family?
Unless we were sure that both parents are town
then we know that neither are scum
The mod told you that?

In post 2788, GoodCop_BadCop wrote:No, his reads are shit because he's not actually doing anything other than fake-tunneling nero.
I wouldn't call it fake-tunneling
ns seems genuinely pissed at Nero
lol no. NS has no reason to be "pissed". He's voting me for, idk what. Something about telling you that its ok if you disagree with my points against you but to say that I have no points and am just randomly calling you scum without any reasoning is lol/a lie. He some how thinks that was "scummy as hell". He then Shadow's you and joins this ridiculous notion that I want to PL 2013 join dates for being 2013 join dates. So what does he have to be pissed about?

In post 2803, Nero Cain wrote:+your bullshit about me wanting to lynch 2013ers just 'cause they are 2013ers looks like scumWAH WAH WAH!!!
You discrediting with us with "oh lol 2013" instead of actually refuting the points slammed into your ass is scummy, nero

When someone bring up a valid point call me. Also no one is using this "deys a 2013 sooz we cant listen 2 dem."

hrrrrmmm....the bottom portion of the tags are broke but IDFK

Nero Cain · Fri Aug 30, 2013 4:52 am

In post 3019, Rift Adrift wrote:Saki, this is why your wagon isn't as much of a concern. You were a counterwagon to Peregrine, and his was pretty much purely a pressure wagon because he's such a lurksack in games, especially on day 1. That wagon was almost certain to dissipate once players formed scum reads.

I don't get it? THE PV wagon was just random nonsense but I think you have it pegged as to why Chess was pushing that but I don't see what that says about Saki.

Nero Cain · Fri Aug 30, 2013 5:01 am

In post 2947, Saki wrote:
In post 2911, Nero Cain wrote:oh.......I got it now. but, w/e. I did back it up. I find it horrible that all of you Saki, you, BC and NS think I'm running around the thread not given any reasoning. Yea, I highly highly doubt that all 4 f you are scum but I wouldn't be surprised to see atleast one.
point out anything i've said (other than my scumread on you) that i have not backed up with reason (and which should be backed with reason)

uhhhh....not what I said.

You calling my town game pathetic is lol.

Nero Cain · Fri Aug 30, 2013 5:29 am

In post 3030, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 3026, Saki wrote:News flash: Sakura's taking a break from mafia because of YOU, Nero.
Uh, no?

This is the kind of potshot stuff I'm talking about. A nonsensical bullshit lie.

Nero Cain · Fri Aug 30, 2013 5:31 am

In post 3041, Sakura Hana wrote:Holy shit Nero's double posting has evolved into triple posting!

next stop: fourple posting!

Nero Cain · Fri Aug 30, 2013 5:34 am

fourple

Nero Cain · Fri Aug 30, 2013 5:47 am

THIS IS IMPORTANT!

In post 3026, Saki wrote:
In post 3020, Nero Cain wrote:So you did find Talah scummy?
Back then, nope.

So then why, when you were getting bandwagoned and Batimorons came in and said "oh look, Saki did call them both out." Did you not set the record straight?

Nero Cain · Fri Aug 30, 2013 5:49 am

less important but still a good question me thinks

In post 3020, Nero Cain wrote:Why TSO, I've never mentioned him? Why do you have a town read on that? + I haven't mentioned flipping Maki in a long while so....why do you keep mentioning that you don't want a Maki flip?
because Maki is my townread and you've lined him up for a lynch.

I don't remember saying anything about Maki for awhile now, can you quote my most recent post wanting to kill Maki? You also haven't explained why you keep bringing up TSO, I've never said anything about him. Infact I don't think anyone has.

Nero Cain · Fri Aug 30, 2013 5:50 am

In post 3047, Saki wrote:
In post 3046, Nero Cain wrote:
THIS IS IMPORTANT!

In post 3026, Saki wrote:
In post 3020, Nero Cain wrote:So you did find Talah scummy?
Back then, nope.
So then why, when you were getting bandwagoned and Batimorons came in and said "oh look, Saki did call them both out." Did you not set the record straight?
*shrug*
I called both of them out. "Don't use meta from one game only"
How is that important. What record do I have to set straight again?

You *just* told me that you didn't find Talah scummy ergo you didn't call them both out.

Nero Cain · Fri Aug 30, 2013 5:51 am

In post 3049, Saki wrote:...and I even did say I forgot about talah before you brought him up, Nero.

To be fair I think you said you were ignoring Talah but meh. Why then did you have a scumread on her?

Nero Cain · Fri Aug 30, 2013 6:01 am

As many as it takes to get you lynched scum.

Nero Cain · Fri Aug 30, 2013 6:05 am

In post 3058, Sakura Hana wrote:Although I think the Saki vs Nero argument seems to be a really big misunderstanding I still don't like how Saki used my mafia break as a way to put it as if it was Nero's fault

It could be a misunderstanding, we'll see. Though I feel as if, and you point out a good one, he's just taking pot shots and discrediting me now.

Nero Cain · Fri Aug 30, 2013 6:51 am

Saki, you need to take a chill pill dude.

Fery: Do you often do this trajectory thing 'cause I don't really remember you doing it before?

Nero Cain · Fri Aug 30, 2013 7:19 am

In post 3082, Saki wrote:
In post 3076, Saki wrote:Does adding a person to foe list filter their posts completely?
Does it or does it not because I'm seriously considering it.

Does it show a gaping hole where their post should've been or is the post there but is the content filtered?

no and no.

It MIGHT do it in the non game areas but I've done nothing to you so just grow the fuck up.

Nero Cain · Fri Aug 30, 2013 7:41 am

In post 3092, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 3090, Saki wrote:I don't mind what you're doing to me but what you're doing to the game is absolutely horrendous.
Then ignore him and focus on scumhunting instead of arguing, because even this back and forth is just cluttering the thread with you 2 attacking each other.

I wouldn't say that I'm arguing. I have serious reservation with Saki's play. Weather his play is more likely to come from noobtown then noobscum, idk. I think my argument for suspecting Saki as scum is sound and he's just went ape shit throwing around potshots and insults which continues to make me question his alignment. But we are going to kill it before lylo and I'm ok with that. I'm going to get a post out that shos where I believe he's not making any sense but after that its over.

I don't think I'ver ever accused Saki of ignoring me. Quote plox.

Nero Cain · Fri Aug 30, 2013 8:13 am

When are you going to start posting, Mastin?

Nero Cain · Fri Aug 30, 2013 9:08 am

In post 3112, notscience wrote:RAther than waste time pushing the lurkerscum

So you have scumbuddies that are lurking?

Nero Cain · Fri Aug 30, 2013 9:32 am

vote NS scum.