Karma Mafia (Game Over!)

[curiouskarmadog]

no, its true, partial policy lynch...partial random..

if that is scummy on page 4, bring on the votes bitches.

[curiouskarmadog]

scratch that page 5

[Porochaz]

If he was seriously going for a policy lynch, I think he would be trying to convince us to policy lynch you rather than just voting for you.

This is true.

Well done Seraphim, this is A. why Im not being serious


and B. you get a gold star. I cant be assed finding another gold star link though so can you share the one with bv.

vote Richard

Its only a policy lynch if he is expecting everyone to vote that way, he hasnt given any reasoning therefore I think he probably was still being random. Your automatic assumption that its a policy lynch on the basis of nothing is interesting though.

Also, policy lynch discussion is stupid. Its not, let me make it clear Im not going back on what I said. policy lynch discussion, bad. response discussion, good. Also what bv said was a bit dumb, so Im taking back that gold star and handing firmly to seraphim. If people tunnel and make up scumtells then they are going to be caught easily. CKD, would be dumb and dare I say, too smart and experienced at the game to go down that route as are most experienced players, no matter the alignment.

[Porochaz]

*Also, policy lynch discussion is stupid. Let me make it clear...

Damn, me correcting myself yet not deleting it properly

also <3 ckd

[Patrick]

Votecount

Papa Zito (1) -- Jahudo
farside22 (5) -- Albert B. Rampage, Papa Zito, Faraday, RichardGHP, Snow_Bunny
curiouskarmadog (1) -- Espeonage
Albert B. Rampage (3) -- farside22, Sando, My Milked Eek
NickF227 (2) -- Pomegranate, Seraphim
Pomegranate (1) -- NickF227
bv310 (1) -- dybeck
RichardGHP (2) -- curiouskarmadog, Porochaz
Porochaz (1) -- bv310

Not voting: Bio Hazard, DocPotter, Anon
20 alive, 11 to lynch.

[dybeck]

mod: can you confirm that our absentees have confirmed for this game?

in the meantime,

unvote, vote: anon

. Wakey wakey sunshine.

In other news, Porochaz, are your antics part of a mafia-related strategy? Or more about creating your own kind of fun?

[Seraphim]

If CKD is doing what I think he's doing, then he is not being scummy. By all means, continue to scrutinize him but I am going to follow other leads.

Bv310 - could you please explain how prolonging the random stage would help scum find the "weak town"? I have never heard anything like this before...true, I could have missed it in my absence but otherwise...

Porochaz - thank you for the gold star.

[Bio Hazard]

Darn, I missed the RVS.
Oh well.

Seraphim, I've seen people playing like that before. They don't usually try to group policy lynch, they usually just tunnel hardcore and find scumtells where there aren't any. It's actually rather annoying when it happens.

Anyone doing this is pretty retarded.

Why are people in this game seemingly obsessed with staying in the RVS, every time we start getting vagueling non-random conversation we apparently need more ant-eaters.

Farside, lol @ thinking ABR will answer questions, that's a good one

... so you say this with no vote or any content of your own?

Vote: Sando

[NickF227]

Unvote
Vote: NickF227

for pretending to be a Final Fantasy fan and then not playing Final Fantasy VII. Fail.

Noooo, I was asking who was scummy. >_>

[Porochaz]

I was partly drunk, partly making my own fun, partly mafia strategy. The way I usually play except 10x more annoying...

[bv310]

Seraphim, I've found that it's always scum who try to draw out the RVS in order to get it a bit closer to deadline before the actual play begins. It's usually not close enough to make a difference, but it gives a bit extra time to look for either breadcrumbs (in a theme game) or slight PR-tells.

[farside22]

Seraphim, I've seen people playing like that before. They don't usually try to group policy lynch, they usually just tunnel hardcore and find scumtells where there aren't any. It's actually rather annoying when it happens.

Anyone doing this is pretty retarded.

Why are people in this game seemingly obsessed with staying in the RVS, every time we start getting vagueling non-random conversation we apparently need more ant-eaters.

Farside, lol @ thinking ABR will answer questions, that's a good one

Who do you see being vagueling non random with convo?
Richard being obsessed with CKD's vote on him is ridiculous. It's one vote. I detect panic in Richards post.

unvote:
vote: Richard

And yes I expect ABR to answer me. It will just take about 5 more days for him decide to.

[Porochaz]

Seraphim, I've found that it's always scum who try to draw out the RVS in order to get it a bit closer to deadline before the actual play begins. It's usually not close enough to make a difference, but it gives a bit extra time to look for either breadcrumbs (in a theme game) or slight PR-tells.

Looks like we have someone who plays from "Ye Olde Book of Scum". Im guessing we'll be butting heads later when Im not being such a douche.

[My Milked Eek]

Be posting tonight, had some parties and stuff.

[Jahudo]

"Paging Doctor Potter to the game thread... Paging Doctor Potter to the game thread."

Mafia 107. Link in my sig.

Ongoing game is ongoing. So i'm not going to look at it.

But why tell him to stop? do you think CKD is scum going for an easy wagon; do you think he is misguided; something else?

[Porochaz]

Really shouldnt have ongoing games in your sig...

[bv310]

It's not ongoing. I checked it out. He just has it listed as ongoing for some reason.

[Porochaz]

Im guessing it was ongoing when he put it there.

[bv310]

Probably. Not a very thrilling read, but good for meta purposes.

[dybeck]

Seraphim, I've found that it's always scum who try to draw out the RVS in order to get it a bit closer to deadline before the actual play begins. It's usually not close enough to make a difference, but it gives a bit extra time to look for either breadcrumbs (in a theme game) or slight PR-tells.

Looks like we have someone who plays from "Ye Olde Book of Scum". Im guessing we'll be butting heads later when Im not being such a douche.

"Being a douche" contributes to several things, in my experience:

1) distracts the town from having useful conversation;
2) allows scum players to remain very quiet while douchery happens around them;
3) makes the douche concerned more likely to be lynched, regardless of alignment;
4) spoils people's fun.

I have yet to decide whether or not I care whether you get yourself lynched, but it's annoying to have town sidetracked, scum hiding, and my fun spoiled.

I don't want to give you a hard time. I actually think that a bit of early douchery can be a positive thing in the RVS - a couple of days of anteaters and such can sometimes stimulate some interaction at least, but it would be good to see less of it as the game proceeds into the more serious stages.

[Porochaz]

I think I have to make one thing clear, I am not Mastin.

I also think your definition of douchey is different from mine.

I am also definetly not trying to get myself lynched. However its this "serious" side of the game Im attacking. Im not going to distract from any meaningful conversation. You have seen how I play dybeck, you know that Im not going to go ruining other peoples fun. However, going deep into policy lynching and turning this thread into a theory chat that should be left in MD and not actually getting anything done is probably just as bad as the RVS and causes people to be disinclined to read long boring posts which have no content in them that they couldnt have read in a dozen threads in the public forums. In the past few games I've played very seriously and whilst I think my performance in both was excellent, (unusual for me, as Im very critical of my play) the seriousness in the former of the two games caused me to tunnel. Keeping relaxed and simple and having a laugh is the way I want to go with this. Of course, Ill be serious at times and I plan to get involved in debate, but if I post a few anteater pics from time to time, it shouldn't be viewed as an annoyance, its only a game, not real life.

[RichardGHP]

@farside: Forsrs? You're using elusive panic as your excuse to vote me? That's really pretty scum-like you know. Even if I was panicked, it wouldn't make me scum. Nobody wants to be lynched. The fact that I only had one vote on me is irrelevant. I addressed it in a manner I felt appropriate. Lastly, you have a rather interesting and extreme definition of 'obsessed'...

Also, yes, Mafia 107 is over, so you can look at it. Some reason I just never got around to updating my sig.

[farside22]

@farside: Forsrs? You're using elusive panic as your excuse to vote me? That's really pretty scum-like you know. Even if I was panicked, it wouldn't make me scum. Nobody wants to be lynched. The fact that I only had one vote on me is irrelevant. I addressed it in a manner I felt appropriate. Lastly, you have a rather interesting and extreme definition of 'obsessed'...
.

Excuse me but I am the one with 5 people who bandwagonned me on page 1 and I just look at it "Oh goody lets see who is scum that tries to lynch me quickly". So I do see the # of votes on you as relevant.
and yes I consider your panic a scum tell. Someone who votes you 3 times isn't a big deal. My view is he's doing it to see how you react.

[Papa Zito]

Come on kids, don't be shy. Moar farside votes.

[Seraphim]

Seraphim, I've found that it's always scum who try to draw out the RVS in order to get it a bit closer to deadline before the actual play begins. It's usually not close enough to make a difference, but it gives a bit extra time to look for either breadcrumbs (in a theme game) or slight PR-tells.

I disagree. The benefits to the scum in question is minimal and it puts them in the hotseat. I have never considered prolonging the RVS a scumtell and you have not convinced me otherwise.

Unvote
Vote: RichardGHP

He needs more votes.