Imperial Intrigue (Endgame, OUT OF NOWHERE)

[kdowns]

Now Sleepy walks away....

[Otolia]

SleepyKrew daykilled me on his first post.
SleepyKrew pulled a pathetic gambit on flavor so that he could out VT which I totally disapproved and feel it should deserve a modkill.

Good luck on your game, Wraith.

You aren't even going to bother scumhunting or doing something positive before your death?

You spit on my face. I have no interest in playing this game anymore if you are in it and if it happens that you don't have a daykill, I'll probably ask for replacement. It's as easy as that. I thought you deserved another chance after the extremely bad showing in our last game together, I was proved that you are still as childish. I don't wanna get worked up for you, so you can keep your taunting to yourself - though this request will most likely fall into deaf ears.

In the event that I am not Daykill, I don't want to destroy the game for my replacement, so I'm not gonna divulge any information I might know right now until Wraith comes back.

[JDGA]

VOTE: SleepyKrew
I'm from House McKarn, but my victory condition is eliminating the threats to House Argelev. I'm pretty sure the house is just flavour v_v
However, Xanatos has raised a lot of very good points against SK's tomfoolery, and the latter's last post of "K I'm done with David. Ignore mode GEAUX" is just attempting to dodge further suspicion.
I can basically summarise your game so far as:

not sure if serious
or just jester

Now start being logical or shut up and die, kthx v_v

[Nero Cain]

PEdit3: Nero, there was less than a minute between his post and my vote on SK with light joke directed at tclaw. Are you claiming I could firstly see his post, format a vote, and type all that in a matter of a few seconds.

NOW TAKE A LOOK UP AT THE PROVIDED VT PM AND GIVE ME A GOOD FUCKING REASON WHY WE SHOULDN'T LYNCH YOUR FAIL 3RD PARTY ASS.

VOTE: SK

Very nice catch, tclawren. I hereby dub you Sir tclawren of the Falcon's Eye.

3 mins. LIE MOAR!!!

[David Xanatos]

Otolia, is SleepyKrew bringing personal issues from another game into this one?

Nero: I was under the impression you meant the post directly above mine.

Yes, my vote was influenced by tclawren pointing that out. I am of House Argelev, but the wording of my PM suggests that other factions are loyal to Argelev, which JDGA's post has confirmed for me.

There was one minute between my post #17, and my vote. This was because I didn't both reading the posts on the preview page before I had already posted it. When I did, that is when I saw tclawren's post referring to the sample role PM.

Also, it's 5am. I'll be going to sleep very, very soon, got distracted with this argument.. if I stop responding, I'm asleep and will get back to you when I awake.

[David Xanatos]

both = bother*

[SleepyKrew]

I'm ignoring David because he's confirmed scum. I'll still reply to you, kdowns, but only if you answer my question first.

[kdowns]

Your question about me voting you?

It's because you are giving off a huge scum read. Supported by the fact you ignored David having a case against you and you just walk off without saying anything to him.

[SodaSpirit17]

No RVS aww...
K. I'm not getting lynched day 1. I'm gonna bring my team to victory.
gandalf brings up a good point on Sleep, but you really need to be careful with the term confirmed.
My house is Argelev (sp?) And I think all pro-town are known as loyalists.
David looks like crap for sheeping tcl over a fake kill.

VOTE: David

[Otolia]

• A jester wouldn't make any sense in that flavor. An executioner is possible though (personal agenda)
  
• Loyalists
  are the town. Some of them have abilities, some not. We do not know if the House Argelev is among us but in any case house Argelev are the legitimate heirs to the throne and should be considered as such by all the VT (the
  Loyalists
  )
  
• The term 'Imperialists' don't makes much sense because it would means that those ones are the townies - since according to the flavor the Beran try to maintain the cohesion of the Imperium. It's a bad choice of word from SK and I believe that should prove that he was lying.
  
• I believe that some house may have alignment change capacity.

For presentation record, I am House Delmar, rulers of the great port of Mov Fovar.

@DX

: It is possible that SK is bringing personal issues from another game. He stated after out last game that he put me on his banlist.

[David Xanatos]

How precisely did I "sheep tcl over a fake kill"?

You just proved that you didn't read the thread. You just sheeped onto my wagon.

Otolia > How can some of the Loyalists have abilities, and yet they're directly listed in the first post as not having abilities?

We of the House of Argelev are amongst you. We come from the West.

[kdowns]

David to answer for you, it is as Loyalist *(name of role)*

[SleepyKrew]

Good job David. You just got a PR to out himself.

[tclawren]

KDOWNS. WHY?

[kdowns]

Not a PR. Thanks for believing though.

[kdowns]

Err, Well Since it's out there I am just a One Shot Vig. That's how I know all roles get Loyalist that are townie aligned.

[David Xanatos]

Fair enough. I am not a Loyalist, I am an Argelev. I assumed because of the wording "Your Role is Loyalist" that Loyalists were VTs, to a man.

SK > So much for your childish "ignoring". Regardless, look at the sample PM. Tell me that it does not say "Your Role is Loyalist". And then states that they have no special powers.

PEdit: Okay, so now I am officially confused. Either way. If you feel the need to claim, claim HOUSE only.

Pedit2: Okay. Thanks for clearing that up kdowns. I stand by my point there that the sample PM is misleading in that respect.

[JDGA]

...
Ok this is just stupid now.
I'd like to see a votecount, but considering that it's midnight for Wraith I doubt we're getting one, so I might make an unofficial one.
Although having Argelev not get the role Loyalist makes perfect sense, considering that we're the Loyalists to a member of House Argelev taking the throne.

[kdowns]

No Problem, The reason I said it isn't a PR is because I don't see my ability as a power role, because I have a one time Kill Ability during Night phase than bam I am a Regular Townie.

[SodaSpirit17]

hmm that was a quick claim dude. That's kinda where I'm going with all this.

[Magua]

David is scum. His entire reaction to the SK kill is bad. His reaction to everything since then has been bad.

Otolia is town. He's obviously misreading SK's gambit and taking it personally, which he shouldn't be doing. Don't know about past history between SK/Otolia, don't really care.

kdowns is obvtown.

SK is nullish. I liked his gambit and all, but since then it's just been poking people and no reads.

JDGA is meh. "I'd like a votecount" after four pages; if you cared enough you'd count them yourself, it's not like there's been a lot of them.

hmm that was a quick claim dude. That's kinda where I'm going with all this.

Do you think he's lying about being a one-shot vig?

[SodaSpirit17]

Nope. I have nothing to go by really, so yea. But I just think it was kinda dumb.

Why are you asking me this if you think he's obvtown?

[David Xanatos]

His claim is something we can verify tonight. We now know we have a N1 shot to direct as we see fit. That's a good thing. Better than him taking it wildly.

SK (4): David Xanatos, kdowns, gandalf, JDGA,
kdowns (1): Cookie
David Xanatos (5): Magua, Sleepy, tclawren, Nero, Sodaspirit

Magua > Care to explain how exactly?

[JDGA]

JDGA is meh. "I'd like a votecount" after four pages; if you cared enough you'd count them yourself, it's not like there's been a lot of them.

hmm that was a quick claim dude. That's kinda where I'm going with all this.

Do you think he's lying about being a one-shot vig?

I'd like to see a votecount,

but considering that it's midnight for Wraith I doubt we're getting one, so I might make an unofficial one.

Guess what I've just been doing?

VOTE COUNT (13 to lynch)
------------------------------

David Xanatos - 5

Magua (#21)
SleepyKrew (#26)
tclawren (#32)
Nero Cain (#69)
SodaSpirit17 (#83)

SleepyKrew - 4

tclawren

(#9, unvoted #32)
David Xanatos (#19)
kdowns (#57)
gandalf5166 (#73)
JDGA (#77)

kdowns - 1

EtherealCookie (#16)

gandalf5166 - 0

kdowns

(#8, unvoted #36)

CUT: Oh, that works too.
And Magua, considering that SK's opening post was a fake daykill on someone just because he had a vendetta against them, I don't really see how you could apparently have "liked him already." I don't think I like your reads, period.

[Otolia]

If House Argelev is the House we have to defend and considering that their representant might be ingame, I think they must be some sort of NK and alignment protected role. A town godfather of some sort. However considering that it is a game of power, it is possible that there might be more than one House Argelev fighting among us. Like differents heirs to the throne.

@Magua

: I understand what SK tried to achievedand playing on the flavor when people haven't been introduced completely to the game is something I dissaprove of, but that's just me and it has nothing to do with alignment more with my personal enjoyment of a mafia game. On the other hand, SK did use allegedly a DayKill ability in his first post for (more than likely) out of the game reasons, it's normal that I take it personally since I was targeted.

The key point now is : Is House Argelev among us or is House Argelev an outside House that the townies have to protect by eliminating all threats to them ? Or is House Argelev many people who try to struggle for power while the Loyalists try to protect them all ? Answering this question should give us our first lynch of the game.

Since it's so crucial,

everyone has to claim its House name

and if possible where they rule (for the fun)

----

SleepyKrew - House Keiger
tclawren - Claimed to belong to House Argelev
kdowns - Claimed to belong to House Argelev
David Xanados - Claimed (not very clear) to

be

House Argelev
manho - Claimed to be of house argelev and

loyalist

.
JGDA - House McKarn
Otolia - House Delmar
sodaspirit - Claimed to

be

House Argelev

That's a lot of people who either can't read a PM or there is indeed many House Argelev ... and the Loyalists have to think about their WinCon ...
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Didn't see that at first :

We are Neighbors and his QT posts are reeking of scum.

I am not in any Neighborhood.