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Post Post #3450 (ISO) » Mon Dec 08, 2014 11:44 am

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In post 3447, Brian Skies wrote:Also, I absolutely loved my character PM. I don't really know much about Advance Wars, I just thought the characters I picked would be fun to play.

Sasha's role is one I'm particularly proud of. I tried really hard to make your role work as close to it's in-game counterpart. It succeeded!
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Post Post #3451 (ISO) » Mon Dec 08, 2014 11:45 am

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In post 3443, Natirasha wrote:Anyways, the biggest problem with the setup was Konowa's role. In an earlier iteration, the star system didn't gain stars passively--it gained them by people targeting each other with night actions(that setup also had every player have a targeted ability)--so it made sense to have at 2-stars. When the system changed, this one 'fell through the cracks' as it were.

I did have some early trepidation about the fact that I could bulletproof two players as long as I was on the lynch wagon.
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Post Post #3452 (ISO) » Mon Dec 08, 2014 11:47 am

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Your role literally did not change at all from initial conception to final concept.
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Post Post #3453 (ISO) » Mon Dec 08, 2014 11:53 am

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Fun game, guys. Glad I didn't really have to read or do much for this well deserved victory.

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Post Post #3454 (ISO) » Mon Dec 08, 2014 12:17 pm

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In post 3449, Natirasha wrote:
In post 3445, notscience wrote:Nati I loved my role

Your role actually came about because I had no good ideas for Penny. But, I knew I needed a sample role PM due to the very specific structure in this game, so when i came across that I was like holy shit that's perfect. Your COP was distinctly made impossible to accomplish because we figured your role was already so powerful as an easily-confirmable friendly neighbor.


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Post Post #3455 (ISO) » Mon Dec 08, 2014 1:06 pm

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One of these days I will join a nati game and actually understand what the fuck's going on
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Post Post #3456 (ISO) » Mon Dec 08, 2014 1:25 pm

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I just assumed saki was going to be dead the next day after claiming in hood so I town read him lol.

GG everyone. Kinda sad it finished so soon, This game was a lot of fun =)
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Post Post #3457 (ISO) » Mon Dec 08, 2014 1:37 pm

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EDIT: Seriously, orcinus.
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Post Post #3458 (ISO) » Mon Dec 08, 2014 1:39 pm

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unnecessary orci
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Post Post #3459 (ISO) » Mon Dec 08, 2014 1:43 pm

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Perhaps. I don't plan on going into it any further, at least in this thread.

Good game to all! Happy that I ended up on the same note as fery, and extremely apologetic for scumreading her over a 4-person scumlist that ended up having 3/4 scum.
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Post Post #3460 (ISO) » Mon Dec 08, 2014 2:45 pm

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What role did ffery pick? I was really worried who would end up with it and worried about it getting into scums hands all game ><
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Post Post #3461 (ISO) » Mon Dec 08, 2014 2:50 pm

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I enjoyed the game, though all the paranoia about being spied on in our neighborhood made things a little crazy during the last game day/night.

The role was interesting and a lot of fun trying to figure out. With all the other strange stuff going on, I wasn't sure what events might have been caused by me.

Notsci, I got access to your neighborhood on day 2. I could have posted, but I was worried there might be scum in your hood.

It's kinda cool that the Bolt neighborhood start up sorted all the town out of the big neighborhood!

p-edit I don't think I got to pick a specific role?
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Post Post #3462 (ISO) » Mon Dec 08, 2014 3:04 pm

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Oh really? :o I thought you could pick a second role to have as your own from the list. oh well :lol:
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Post Post #3463 (ISO) » Mon Dec 08, 2014 3:08 pm

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i) Sorry for being a baby this game. Playing multiple games and replacing into the madness of this game while exams and sickness were happening was a dumb decision on my part.

ii) I'm happy my reads were surprisingly accurate once I'd caught up given how baffled I was with everything.

iii) Just wanted to say that shooting me was super ballsy and smart @ABR. That was really good play on your part.

Thanks for putting up with me everyone and looking forward to playing again when I'm in a better place and stuff haha.
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Post Post #3464 (ISO) » Mon Dec 08, 2014 3:11 pm

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cheet you were one of my favorite new people i met this game!!
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Post Post #3465 (ISO) » Mon Dec 08, 2014 3:13 pm

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In post 3428, Konowa wrote:
In post 36, fferyllt wrote:So Saki, you seem pretty invested in this game.

Since you're here, ffery. In case you didn't figure it out, this post was what made me Townread you so hard.


I wasn't sure what had contributed to your townread! This makes sense, though, I think.
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Post Post #3466 (ISO) » Mon Dec 08, 2014 3:15 pm

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In post 3464, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:cheet you were one of my favorite new people i met this game!!

c:
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Post Post #3467 (ISO) » Mon Dec 08, 2014 3:15 pm

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I mainly joined this game because of a few names on the list that I knew and liked. I now have a BUNCH of names to add to my list of awesome players who make Mafia games fun :)

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Post Post #3468 (ISO) » Mon Dec 08, 2014 3:18 pm

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In post 3463, Cheetory6 wrote:Thanks for putting up with me everyone and looking forward to playing again when I'm in a better place and stuff haha.


Cheet you were awesome

Sorry I misread you
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Post Post #3469 (ISO) » Mon Dec 08, 2014 3:20 pm

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I don't blame you for misreading me, I was being a bit of a jerk and I could see someone thinking it's fake. I'm sorry for calling your play unmemorable and stuff. I was just pissy.
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Post Post #3470 (ISO) » Mon Dec 08, 2014 3:23 pm

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YEAH WELL WHATEVER.

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Post Post #3471 (ISO) » Mon Dec 08, 2014 3:29 pm

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Hey I understand. I get pissy too and have been way worse than you were. I don't really take anything personal.
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Post Post #3472 (ISO) » Mon Dec 08, 2014 3:34 pm

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I have no idea how most of my hood didn't realize I was confirmed town lol.
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Post Post #3473 (ISO) » Mon Dec 08, 2014 3:40 pm

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i saw your message in bolt games hq

orcinus_theoriginal
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are you all right

Natirasha
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?

orcinus_theoriginal
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are you all right

Natirasha
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Yes.

orcinus_theoriginal
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then why would you post something like 'don't be a jackass'

orcinus_theoriginal
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does it feel to you like i'm being a jackass?

orcinus_theoriginal
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i mean here i am investing effort into a game you are moderating

orcinus_theoriginal
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and i asked for clarification on a rule

Natirasha
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My ruleset is pretty vague on things

orcinus_theoriginal
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and then you give me "don't be a jackass"

orcinus_theoriginal
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i mean so not only do you call me a jackass

Natirasha
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I tend to give my players lot of leeway to know what is appropriate in regard to gamestate themselves

orcinus_theoriginal
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you also refuse to give me the information i'm asking for

orcinus_theoriginal
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right ok i think this appropriate, which means you and i disagree on his notion

orcinus_theoriginal
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which means as the moderator

orcinus_theoriginal
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you need to tell me

orcinus_theoriginal
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what is appropriate

orcinus_theoriginal
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and what is not

orcinus_theoriginal
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which is incidentally why i asked you if you were feeling all right because this shouldn't be something i have to explain to you

Natirasha
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I'm fine with outside knowledge being used, but ciphers are a grey area

orcinus_theoriginal
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right

orcinus_theoriginal
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so you need to tell me what is and is not allowed wrt encryption

orcinus_theoriginal
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because i think it's something very valuable that i'd like to use

Natirasha
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I don't know what would or wouldn't be!

orcinus_theoriginal
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and you expect me to?

Natirasha
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Ask me beforehand

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ok

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'I know it when I see it'

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fery and i have had numerous talks about stuff

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Ovrnight, yes

orcinus_theoriginal
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that's the point of fucking rules, nati

Natirasha
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when I was sleeping

orcinus_theoriginal
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no

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in skype, about other things

orcinus_theoriginal
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would it be fair for me to reference that

orcinus_theoriginal
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for instance

orcinus_theoriginal
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yesterday you talked to me about X and X

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would this be a fair thing to allude to

Natirasha
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I mean if you're talking about the game outside of your private topics, thats a pretty clear violation of the rules

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not this fucking game nati

Natirasha
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But if it's like, 'Hye, yesterday we were talking about shoes on skype'

orcinus_theoriginal
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that would be ok?

Natirasha
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I guess thats fine, but don't push it.

orcinus_theoriginal
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what do you mean by push

Natirasha
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And dont fucking play timestamp mafia

orcinus_theoriginal
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this is very frustrating for me nati because you need to be more clear on what you mean

orcinus_theoriginal
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because i don't think you eve nknow what you mean

orcinus_theoriginal
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like 'if you use it once it's ok but the line is drawn at four times'?

orcinus_theoriginal
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like here, i'll give you a few sample rules that you can use to append #13

orcinus_theoriginal
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and this is necessary because you and i are disagreeing on what is reasonable and what is/isn't a jackass thing

orcinus_theoriginal
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and instead of being modkilled i would highly prefer you actually make these rules clear to me

orcinus_theoriginal
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which is, y'know, part of your job as a mod

orcinus_theoriginal
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-do not use the specific wording of out of thread communication in any way. content can be used freely

orcinus_theoriginal
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-don't use encryptoin


Natirasha
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I don't want to forthright ban encryption for a number of reasons

orcinus_theoriginal
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ok

orcinus_theoriginal
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then set parameters on out of thread encryption pelase

orcinus_theoriginal
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alternatively i still don't understand how what we were doing violates rule 13

orcinus_theoriginal
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considering we were never quoting this communication

Natirasha
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You dont see how using timestamps is out-of-game context?

orcinus_theoriginal
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oh you edited rule 13, ok good

orcinus_theoriginal
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what o you mean by "other such things"

Natirasha
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>really just ask me if something's okay

orcinus_theoriginal
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i just did!!!

orcinus_theoriginal
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and then you replied wiht a "ok, but don't push it"

orcinus_theoriginal
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what the fuck does pushing it entail!!

orcinus_theoriginal
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you are making this much more difficult than it needs to be because you're not being decisive

Natirasha
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Because everything's grey

orcinus_theoriginal
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if you modkill me this game without warning

Natirasha
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I have literally never had issues with my ruleset since I first used it

Natirasha
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I'm not?

orcinus_theoriginal
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this will be a very public shitstorm

Natirasha
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I fully expect you to give zoroaster a negative review already

orcinus_theoriginal
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this is also the first game you've had where people have NEEDED to encrypt

orcinus_theoriginal
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this is not me nati

orcinus_theoriginal
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this is wha the game mechanic supports

orcinus_theoriginal
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so i'm going to ask one last time

orcinus_theoriginal
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what does "pushing it" entail

orcinus_theoriginal
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if you do not answer this in a definitive, decisive sense i am going to proceed with what i see fit and what i am motivated by these game mechanics to do

Natirasha
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Just use some insight and have me review what you intend!

Natirasha
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to post

orcinus_theoriginal
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nati

orcinus_theoriginal
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you aren't even online to post VCs

orcinus_theoriginal
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i'm not running every post by you

orcinus_theoriginal
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i can give you a list of things i intend to do

orcinus_theoriginal
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and you can tell me if they are ok/not ok

orcinus_theoriginal
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do not tell me "ok but don't push it" because that doesn't actually say anything

orcinus_theoriginal
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i intend to ask fery about our skype conversation yesterday regarding a specific game and a specific person and put concatonate those words to create a vigenete cypher

orcinus_theoriginal
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i intend to ask cabd about some real life things that we've done, concatenate the answers to those questions and create a cypher

orcinus_theoriginal
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we will use this cypher and the corresponding key to communicate

orcinus_theoriginal
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is this ok

Natirasha
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I am consulting with my other moderator

Natirasha
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s

Natirasha
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please hold

orcinus_theoriginal
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ok

orcinus_theoriginal
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i'm glad i had the foresight to reject your offer of reviewing everything i post

Natirasha
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We're going with precedent set forth from this thread

Natirasha
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http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=37899

Natirasha
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'do not violate the spirit of the game'

Natirasha
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Which is a no

Natirasha
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To pretty much any real-life based cryptography'

orcinus_theoriginal
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then what kind of encryption is allowed

Natirasha
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Very little!

Natirasha
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Things planned in game-specific private topics

Natirasha
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Like if you and ffery had a signal

Natirasha
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that you set up there

orcinus_theoriginal
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so real-life based cryptography is a no

orcinus_theoriginal
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how about based on previous games

Natirasha
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or, things that everyone in the game has access to

Natirasha
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Like if you referenced a mafia discussion thread

orcinus_theoriginal
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ok

orcinus_theoriginal
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solid
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Post Post #3474 (ISO) » Mon Dec 08, 2014 3:43 pm

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In post 3472, notscience wrote:I have no idea how most of my hood didn't realize I was confirmed town lol.

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