Pokémon Generation II uPick — Game Over

[Bins]

and seriously pie/gif WERE NOT CRAZY PUSHING IT ON THEIR OWN
the hopes are not our fault
neither was the size

neither were the people saying "THERES NO TURNING BACK NOW."

[Bins]

*hops

[Bins]

am I happy with the lynch? no

but that happens

[dramonic]

You (general, not you specifically) lynched a 1-post slot. There is no information there.
And it's nobody else's fault you didn't unvote after the hops, size inflation and "THERES NO TURNING BACK" posts.

I know my play was bad, but you can't just scream TOWN CONCENSUS and call it not-bad play.

[dramonic]

The town, overall, played this game poorly.
Scum used that well.
The end.

[lufan131]

What did I tell you? He had those moves!

[Flames682]

lufan seriously look back and tell me that didn't look like inconsistent bullshit

[lufan131]

I know it did. That's just how I am, mostly.

[Flames682]

"I got a result of positive"

"Nevermind, I got the move back"

[lufan131]

It made sense when I read it, lol.

[SleepyKrew]

sigh
I'm not even angry anymore. Well I am and I want to tell lots of people to go fuck themselves but I'm not gonna do that. I'm disappointed, obviously, both in everyone and in myself. This was my worst game in a long time.

Marquis (+ Micc?), thank you for making me <3 Corsola.

[SleepyKrew]

Oh I'm not disappointed in muffin though

[The Bulge]

Are we still nominating dramonic for Don Corleone?

[GuyInFreezer]

I faked a guilty for a reason.

Honestly I would've just laughed it off if this reason was anything other than "lol I'm faking a post restriction so I can't really convey my reasons well"

[GuyInFreezer]

Like, sure. We jumped on the Jeanne wagon, just like 9 other people in the lynch wagon. Maybe it has been anti-town to do so.
But even if we did something anti-town that gives no one an excuse to pull something anti-town either.
Like, you know better than to pull off a fake guilty. You brought it upon yourself to even feel a need to resort to a fake guilty because you randomly decided to limit your own communication.

Also, using meta is not anti-town and I really doubt you believed that. Bins used straight up meta to read the Bulge, and hey, she has enough experience with him to justify meta-reading him. Also, my "meta" read on pie certainly wasn't anti-town. And that's even discounting the fact that town-pie is reaaaaally obvious even without the meta and the basis on my read on him was actually from a reaction test I pulled off in the neighborhood PT. As I said, I really doubt you were seriously scumreading us for using a meta.

Like, excuse me for this, but the only reason I can think of for your scumread on us was because I called an utility lynch on you.

[GuyInFreezer]

tl;dr
pls don't fake a post restriction next time to the point where you have to resort oddball methods to convey your opinion.

[dramonic]

I personally feel meta is null to anti-town, and neglecting gamestate in favor of meta is scummy.
You surfaced (to me) as the most adamant about what I perceived as a really really bad lynch.
I'm not saying calling a guilty was a right move, but it wasn't because you called for a utility lynch. I may be arrogant, but I'm not petty <_<

EDIT: Yeah, in retrospect the post restriction was fun for a while but overly crippling.

[Metal Sonic]

I don't mind the fact that you faked a guilty, tbh... though partially because I was scum.

Just be more accurate next time!

[GuyInFreezer]

You shouldn't be pulling a fake guilty regardless of how accurate you are unless you have some role related reason to support your "guilty".

[GuyInFreezer]

You surfaced (to me) as the most adamant about what I perceived as a really really bad lynch.

I don't even remember being adamant about any lynches d1 lol
Cos my mind about d1 was "as long as we don't lynch my townreads"

[Marquis]

I'm planning on running a Gen III non-uPick, traditional-style large theme sometime in the near future. (I'm staying away from uPicks for a while so there's a lot more time to work on balance and design.)

Other comments withheld.

Scratch this - Gen III if/when it happens will still be a UPick. But first I'm working on a nifty-mechanic Gen I+II large theme.

(early game ads are good for the soul (my soul))

[zMuffinMan]

Many things you found scummy like my sudden flip on MS on D4, my conspiracy theories about scum having someone skilled, the way I made my pushes etc etc are core aspects of my towngame

i'm sure you might do something similar as town and i'm sure you were trying to emulate it; that would explain why it was coming across as really, really strained. but i don't think these are things you would have done as town, regardless of whether you were doing it because you think you might have done something similar as town (and no, it has nothing to do with me not being familiar with your town game)

for example, what you were saying about the game state made literally no sense; the reason i kept questioning you about it was because it made literally no sense. the things you were saying and how the game actually played out did not align. you might do something similar as town, where you come up with crazy tin-foil theories about how the game is the way it is, but they would probably have some grounding in reality. your arguments about it this game had none

i don't mean to imply you played badly. you at least played well enough to not get lynched, which is all that really matters when you're scum, regardless of who does or doesn't think it's obvious you're scum. my opinion is simply that you guys played well enough to get by in this playerlist, but if i'm being perfectly honest with my thoughts on this game, it was won almost entirely on the back of bad town play that the scum team had very little to no part in, and while you guys did ensure you didn't get lynched D4/D5/D6 (even though we technically did lynch scum), i didn't see anything that particularly wowed me from the scum team in terms of manipulation

anyway, for the brief period of time i was actually able to participate in the game, it wasn't completely unenjoyable - i am still disappointed with the lone ability i got when i only picked wobbuffet because i wanted to be a PGO (and because wobbuffet is a madcunt - see bah post for more details)

[Tere]

If it makes you feel better, your single lost and lonely move caused the scumteam (or certainly me, anyway) enormous amounts of wifom!