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Post Post #4875 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2015 10:03 am

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Lmao that post is still hysterical

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Post Post #4876 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2015 10:04 am

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I nominated Scot for a scummy, despite not winning.

I know there were a few Kodak moments, so I'll remind you to go nom them as well.

I want to thank you all for playing, it was tough for some of you, I realise and I think most people hated this game by the end, I know I did. (Well, my hatred came mid point and then it picked up again) Site meta has changed so much for me, and I don't like the way it's gone (lot more personally aggressive), I tried to explain that I'd be hypocritical to say Im not aggressive but a lot of time, my aggression has something behind it, like it's not meant to be personal and that intent is lacking in the modern game. It might be experience, but it's why I get BBM's insults more, there is meant to be a level of snark, but it's never meant to be personal. (that said he did go closer to the line this game, but that was due in part to his role)

Anyway, thanks again to all, I hope mollie you do find something positive (bbm and scot) out of this game, I hope to play or mod with a lot of you again. Probably separately. But I plan to take at least an extended break from the site. I need to rest for a while.
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Post Post #4877 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2015 10:06 am

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In post 4873, Davsto wrote:
In post 4871, Porochaz wrote:Dead QT - http://forum.mafiascum.net/posting.php? ... &p=7285288

Since you brought it up, I think I may have been a bit harsh, as I said to you in PM, mollie, but I think the first lynch for sure came out of left field and was primarily due to poor scum play, a lot thereafter was connected. The town took advantage of that, and did well to lynch 3 on the bounce, but I do think poor scum play played a factor in that.

That is one fucked up link, may wanna fix that :P


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Post Post #4878 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2015 10:07 am

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Listing me as positive is offensive

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Post Post #4879 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2015 10:11 am

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In post 4871, Porochaz wrote:Dead QT - http://forum.mafiascum.net/posting.php? ... &p=7285288

Since you brought it up, I think I may have been a bit harsh, as I said to you in PM, mollie, but I think the first lynch for sure came out of left field and was primarily due to poor scum play, a lot thereafter was connected. The town took advantage of that, and did well to lynch 3 on the bounce, but I do think poor scum play played a factor in that.


just because it came out of left field and you don't understand it does not mean it had to do with "luck".

town moves in herds. for a large part of the day sc/matty was voted by town. he was eventually but still.

I think pple absorb things about the gamestate more than they realize because of town herd mentality.

I am sorry I am having a bad attitude and I need to be more gracious. some1 is pointing me to the funny parts of the game and I have to admit they are pretty funny! like when zito called me fat and I voted him. lol
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Post Post #4880 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2015 10:14 am

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Damn it dav, you never lynch in that situation as town. It should have been obvious to you that you were the only town alive.

My hope was that I still had the nk protection, which thinking about it I should have just lynched dav with nexus giving me either the draw of the win. I also really thought reck was scum at the end cause of stupid kmd and nexus stealing their own vote you jerks :(
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Post Post #4881 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2015 10:15 am

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Also, scot, I'm really sorry for hammering you... I panic-voted and before I realised I'd done something wrong (that post after the hammer was me coming back like "shit i did a bad shit shit shit") and, let's face it, you deserved the win the most... Mafia may have officially won this game, but in my mind you definitely played the best.
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Post Post #4882 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2015 10:16 am

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i agree with mollie here
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Post Post #4883 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2015 10:16 am

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Though my kills were bad at the end, and I shouldn't have taken pity on bbm who I knew just didn't want to play anymore. I just too much of a bro.
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Post Post #4884 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2015 10:17 am

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In post 4880, scotmany12 wrote:Damn it dav, you never lynch in that situation as town. It should have been obvious to you that you were the only town alive.

I panicked because I'm a butt.
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Post Post #4885 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2015 10:17 am

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But still we should give nexus and kmd credit. Them stealing nexuses vote away was brilliant, and I found it way more likely that they would claim innocents on either bins or reck.
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Post Post #4886 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2015 10:21 am

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That was good to be fair.
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Post Post #4887 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2015 10:33 am

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But yeh, this game worked out well. I got hella frustrated at one point but that blew over once Espe flipped scum (seriously the utter willpower it took to keep going despite the flood of resistance and actually get Espe lynched, bloody hell :P)
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Post Post #4888 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2015 10:40 am

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I'm sad that it wasnt as balanced as I initially hoped...4 scum 1 SK 13 town seems fair and Im not sure encryptor is all that powerful (it depends, it was one of my experiments this game, I dont think it helped scum at all really and I though folk were going to see through the nexus lost vote) I did expect scot to hit one of the scum at some point, but they all died before he got a chance... There was some town powers that didn't get used. Bus Driver (which I realise can also be negative utility), Vengeful Townie... and CKD was unlucky not to target anyone useful (and getting knocked out one night, but I guess tracker isn't as powerful as I had built up in my mind (maybe?)

I don't know I am kinda just posting a stream of thought.
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Post Post #4889 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2015 10:59 am

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Depending on how my break goes I have 2 ideas, one involves three further games, that setups would go beyond these basic theme, extremely loosely based on some films and with some fun roles in them and the other is a large theme that ties up a few ideas that I had for this game and others that didn't make the cut, it would probably be a bit of a role madness, swingfest but would be fun, both routes would have flavour but it would be light, very definitely lighter than this.

I think my other disappointment was that this game wasn't as non-normal as I would have liked. I guess Busdriver/Nympho/Scum JOAT had that covered but meh. I would have liked to find a bit more interesting combo than JK/Tracker in retrospect.
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Post Post #4890 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2015 11:26 am

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Game had no wizards of ra

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Post Post #4891 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2015 11:28 am

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In post 4863, Titus wrote:Didn't I say Nexus was scum.

If you would have lynched him, that mighta worked.

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Post Post #4892 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2015 11:31 am

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Yeah we could have followed your lynch pool to two town lynches just as easily :/
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Post Post #4893 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2015 11:32 am

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I mean, Titus, you were 100% correct.

Which is why I had to discredit your VCA as bullshit. Which it still is. It can still be manipulated, just like meta.
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Post Post #4894 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2015 11:34 am

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also yeah: setup was unfortunate how scum sided it was, but I can't say this doesn't feel deserved. it just felt like town had no real power roles.
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Post Post #4895 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2015 11:35 am

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In post 4888, Porochaz wrote:I'm sad that it wasnt as balanced as I initially hoped...4 scum 1 SK 13 town seems fair and Im not sure encryptor is all that powerful (it depends, it was one of my experiments this game, I dont think it helped scum at all really and I though folk were going to see through the nexus lost vote) I did expect scot to hit one of the scum at some point, but they all died before he got a chance... There was some town powers that didn't get used. Bus Driver (which I realise can also be negative utility), Vengeful Townie... and CKD was unlucky not to target anyone useful (and getting knocked out one night, but I guess tracker isn't as powerful as I had built up in my mind (maybe?)

I don't know I am kinda just posting a stream of thought.


town were put at a 1:2.6 town to scum ratio. it wldn't have been impossible to pull off a town win considering the strong start that town had but with the roles in play it wld have been tough.

this is the second recent town game where town for some strange reason just got apathetic which I didn't and still don't understand why and that had nothing to do with game design. like after 3 scum lynches town shld have been on a high, I certainly was. idgi

after looking over portions of the game I can say this from the heart, thank you for the game prozack. and ty for taking the time to work things out with me. <3

can some1 plz run a game with a sk mentor/mentee team. I wld love to spectate that. I haven't seen it on this site yet.
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Post Post #4896 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2015 11:39 am

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In post 4858, xRECKONERx wrote:Scot, A+ game.


forgot to echo this, you were really impressive this game scot.
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Post Post #4897 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2015 11:43 am

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also I need to mention how absolutely mind-blowing it is to find out Bins was town. (y)
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Post Post #4898 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2015 11:43 am

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WTF WHO LET NEXUS LIVE THAT LONG
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Post Post #4899 (ISO) » Mon Dec 21, 2015 11:43 am

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In post 4897, Papa Zito wrote:also I need to mention how absolutely mind-blowing it is to find out Bins was town. (y)

And that her reads were right?

I still don't know what was scummy about me.
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