The First Mafia: Game Over

[mykonian]

Because from merceneries conquests come but slowly, long delayed and inconsiderable, but the losses sudden and portentous.

Votecount:

Katsuki (3): DrippingGoofball, Farside22, Uptoolate
Snarkysnowman (1): Spyrex
DrippingGoofball (1): Katsuki

not voting (4): Cogito Ergo Sum, Snarkysnowman, Petroleumjelly, Implosion

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Yeah, I don't think we can afford to execute both Snarky and Katsuki when there might still be a Mafia Soldier. Given the full scope of the execution power, 3 scum left is definitely possible. If we mislynch Today and SS and Katsuki aren't both scum, then we risk the Mafia Soldier blocking the kill on the scum one and we end up with 6 alive, 3 scum. And if they're both scum, then lynching Katsuki and executing SS leaves us in a pretty good position.

So we just lynch Katsuki?

[DrippingGoofball]

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[SpyreX]

I wish i was excited. But i think that's the plan.
Dgb you better not be breaking my heart

[farside22]

OK, I can't promise this will look pretty.
Phone posting a case sometimes is more tedious.

Utl scum and why:

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 7#p8239517
Vague posting about bulba as scum. Says the player is weird but doesn't ask any questions to sort him.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 6#p8240716

This is the post I said reminds me of what I do as scum. Attack a player that is being weird.
This was after kts just telling players to find him a strategy. It's not scummy from the start it's weird, it's nonsensical, it was scummy because it was her scum buddy and being there to bus is ++

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 4#p8242164
This was my ewwww post. Bulbazak noted how utl went from buddying to calling him weird. She gets defensive at being called out and suddenly there's the questions.
Usually it's when I see someone post about a player calling them weird and once confronted they ask a bunch of question to look town.
The biggest issue is no where did Bulbazak say he was worried about the leader being voted quickly.
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 8#p8237408
He was clearly referring to the wagon on himself.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 9#p8259389
the amount of fence sitting comes down to I didn't like Bulbazak post.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 1#p8260901

This is especially hysterical that utl says she sees no scum motivation for lying.
No seriously, gets leader role, shots 2 town, no scum motivation.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 5#p8264105

I like this post only because Bulbazak is pointing out the distancing and how bad utl is being with her reads and I'm adding, lack of push. She just constantly defends herself.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 9#p8278049
Switch vote, no reason, never mentioned once.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 1#p8312541

I always wonder why ask a question about a player you've never said boo about.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 3#p8312613

Lots of fence sitting.
Lots.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 8#p8320938
Weak reason to join wagon.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p8323630
Bahama hahaha.
Sorry that's so bad considering that reason was weak.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 9#p8364229

Kissing leaders ass. Also if true why did utl vote dgb leader first.

Add to kats awkward vote on utl for no reason and pj saying how town utl is for asking questions and agreeing with her reads?

Let me yawn at how bad that is.

[farside22]

Kats scum:
Besides the fake guilty and sending in the execute on ep.

Tunnels bulba most of the game, but this is priceless.

Always trust in PJ.

VOTE: KTS

Considering this was all pj said:

anything else to say

No. But I am clearly not interested in either the Bulbazak wagon or the kraska77 wagon.

Unvote: beeboy

Vote: Killthestory

That's it.

There is then this:


http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p8312340

Mind you once again kats said he followed ces view on ep.

To hey let me use ces
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 1#p8310691

And finally we have scum distancing 101.
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 4#p8343144
Which is the first and only time kats mention utl at all.

[UpTooLate]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 7#p8239517
Vague posting about bulba as scum. Says the player is weird but doesn't ask any questions to sort him.

No, I didn't. I didn't have any questions for him at the time. Or anybody else other than kats about his read on him. Go look at page 7 in most of my games and tell me how many questions I'm asking people. At that point in the game I'm usually just observing and trying to get a feel for people.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 6#p8240716

This is the post I said reminds me of what I do as scum. Attack a player that is being weird.
This was after kts just telling players to find him a strategy. It's not scummy from the start it's weird, it's nonsensical, it was scummy because it was her scum buddy and being there to bus is ++

This was right at the time I was fighting with Yume in your game about her getting away with doing jack shit and then getting pissed for being called on it. Too many people pull that and get away with it, and when I came over here and read he was fucking around after I had been yelling at Yume for the same type of shit I wasn't about to play his game. I'm over that shit. And then when he did finally produce something, it was utterly terrible and I left my vote there.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 4#p8242164
This was my ewwww post. Bulbazak noted how utl went from buddying to calling him weird. She gets defensive at being called out and suddenly there's the questions.
Usually it's when I see someone post about a player calling them weird and once confronted they ask a bunch of question to look town.

The biggest issue is no where did Bulbazak say he was worried about the leader being voted quickly.
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 8#p8237408
He was clearly referring to the wagon on himself.

I wasn't really getting defensive there. I thought it was absurd that he was trying to paint it like I had no reason to change my opinion on him when there was plenty of content to go on. This is where he really started pinging me, as I was never buddying him but that seemed to the main point he had against me (a theme that followed through pretty much everything that he said about me).

I'm not sure I understand what you mean wrt to the bold, can you explain that more please?

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 9#p8259389
the amount of fence sitting comes down to I didn't like Bulbazak post.

??

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 1#p8260901

This is especially hysterical that utl says she sees no scum motivation for lying.
No seriously, gets leader role, shots 2 town, no scum motivation.

In that situation, I couldn't see motivation for him to lie about his vote being stolen as scum. Or as town. Lying about it would be stupid because it's easily provable in thread. And this was obviously before he got leader and killed 2 townies, so your point is not valid.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 5#p8264105

I like this post only because Bulbazak is pointing out the distancing and how bad utl is being with her reads and I'm adding, lack of push. She just constantly defends herself.

I'm literally pushing on bulba

in this post

. I'm questioning him on what he was saying about PJ and telling him why I think he's wrong? Like I don't get what you're going for here.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 9#p8278049
Switch vote, no reason, never mentioned once.

I didn't switch a vote there at all. I said I would be happy voting for either of them because they weren't doing jack shit. I'm pretty sure there was a reason, but still no vote.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 1#p8312541

I always wonder why ask a question about a player you've never said boo about.

Why not? I don't have the best track record of reading hiplop, and I wondered where her read on him was coming from.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 3#p8312613

Lots of fence sitting.
Lots.

Buzzzz words.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 8#p8320938
Weak reason to join wagon.

I mean, he was doing anything, and his stance on duck was bad. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p8323630
Bahama hahaha.
Sorry that's so bad considering that reason was weak.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 9#p8364229

Kissing leaders ass. Also if true why did utl vote dgb leader first.

Spy didn't want leader at first.

Add to kats awkward vote on utl for no reason and pj saying how town utl is for asking questions and agreeing with her reads?

Let me yawn at how bad that is.

Confbiased much? You don't have a flip on any of us and yet you're sitting here trying to draw associatives.

This entire thing was you essentially just going through my ISO and taking a bunch of shit out of context to paint it in a scummy light.


I have to go pick up my son and do the mom thing now, but really Farside. This "case" was complete and utter shit.

You also never answered my question from 1161.

[farside22]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 7#p8239517
Vague posting about bulba as scum. Says the player is weird but doesn't ask any questions to sort him.

No, I didn't. I didn't have any questions for him at the time. Or anybody else other than kats about his read on him. Go look at page 7 in most of my games and tell me how many questions I'm asking people. At that point in the game I'm usually just observing and trying to get a feel for people.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 6#p8240716

This is the post I said reminds me of what I do as scum. Attack a player that is being weird.
This was after kts just telling players to find him a strategy. It's not scummy from the start it's weird, it's nonsensical, it was scummy because it was her scum buddy and being there to bus is ++

This was right at the time I was fighting with Yume in your game about her getting away with doing jack shit and then getting pissed for being called on it. Too many people pull that and get away with it, and when I came over here and read he was fucking around after I had been yelling at Yume for the same type of shit I wasn't about to play his game. I'm over that shit. And then when he did finally produce something, it was utterly terrible and I left my vote there.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 4#p8242164
This was my ewwww post. Bulbazak noted how utl went from buddying to calling him weird. She gets defensive at being called out and suddenly there's the questions.
Usually it's when I see someone post about a player calling them weird and once confronted they ask a bunch of question to look town.

The biggest issue is no where did Bulbazak say he was worried about the leader being voted quickly.
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 8#p8237408
He was clearly referring to the wagon on himself.

I wasn't really getting defensive there. I thought it was absurd that he was trying to paint it like I had no reason to change my opinion on him when there was plenty of content to go on. This is where he really started pinging me, as I was never buddying him but that seemed to the main point he had against me (a theme that followed through pretty much everything that he said about me).

I'm not sure I understand what you mean wrt to the bold, can you explain that more please?

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 9#p8259389
the amount of fence sitting comes down to I didn't like Bulbazak post.

??

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 1#p8260901

This is especially hysterical that utl says she sees no scum motivation for lying.
No seriously, gets leader role, shots 2 town, no scum motivation.

In that situation, I couldn't see motivation for him to lie about his vote being stolen as scum. Or as town. Lying about it would be stupid because it's easily provable in thread. And this was obviously before he got leader and killed 2 townies, so your point is not valid.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 5#p8264105

I like this post only because Bulbazak is pointing out the distancing and how bad utl is being with her reads and I'm adding, lack of push. She just constantly defends herself.

I'm literally pushing on bulba

in this post

. I'm questioning him on what he was saying about PJ and telling him why I think he's wrong? Like I don't get what you're going for here.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 9#p8278049
Switch vote, no reason, never mentioned once.

I didn't switch a vote there at all. I said I would be happy voting for either of them because they weren't doing jack shit. I'm pretty sure there was a reason, but still no vote.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 1#p8312541

I always wonder why ask a question about a player you've never said boo about.

Why not? I don't have the best track record of reading hiplop, and I wondered where her read on him was coming from.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 3#p8312613

Lots of fence sitting.
Lots.

Buzzzz words.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 8#p8320938
Weak reason to join wagon.

I mean, he was doing anything, and his stance on duck was bad. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p8323630
Bahama hahaha.
Sorry that's so bad considering that reason was weak.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 9#p8364229

Kissing leaders ass. Also if true why did utl vote dgb leader first.

Spy didn't want leader at first.

Add to kats awkward vote on utl for no reason and pj saying how town utl is for asking questions and agreeing with her reads?

Let me yawn at how bad that is.

Confbiased much? You don't have a flip on any of us and yet you're sitting here trying to draw associatives.

This entire thing was you essentially just going through my ISO and taking a bunch of shit out of context to paint it in a scummy light.


I have to go pick up my son and do the mom thing now, but really Farside. This "case" was complete and utter shit.

You also never answered my question from 1161.

1 and 3)between calling bulba weird a few post in between you didn't question him till he attacked you.
That's fact.
You want an iso to see it. That's my point.
2) that has nothing to do with Yume. Yume was town that game so I don't see why that's worth voting giving that example.
3 continued. Your point against bulba was how he responded to the quick votes, you said for leader, he was referring to the wagon on him at the time.
4) the link I provided bulba was not talking about kats vote being taken away, he's taking about kats fake guilty on him.
5) sorry that was when you mentioned two players you'd vote for and never said shit about.
This http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p8285860 is where you switch your vote.

Finally the last part, that one is obviously if kats flips scum.
And of course your lack of push on kats and the whyear would a player lie about a guilty bs.

Oh and you have a scum read on kats there, last I checked, let me know when that magically disappears.

[farside22]

Happy Birthday EP!!!! <3

For your birthday, I will sit next to you on the hiplop wagon.

VOTE: hiplop

His role is apparently NAI, and his comment about ducky without actually voting for her didn't sit right with me.

I do not believe that factions can ever be of use. It is certain that when the enemy comes upon you in divided cities you are quickly lost, because the weakest party will always assist the outside forces and the other will not be able to resist.

votecount

hiplop (4): Cogito Ergo Sum, Implosion, DrippingGoofball, Errantparabola
Drippinggoofball (2): Lalaladucks, Petroleumjelly,
Uptoolate (2): Katsuki, Bulbazak
Nahdia (1): Hiplop
Cogito Ergo Sum (1): Snarkysnowman

not voting (3): Deathrowkitty, Pitoli, Uptoolate

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

5 days remaining

Reference with quote to the hippy vote from utl and the votes at the time.
Talk about opportunistic vote.

Utl: who is scum and why.

[Katsuki]

Execute DGB, she is scum. I guarantee this 100%, every time I have ever called DGB scum, I've been right.

Vote: Katsuki

[Katsuki]

You should know me well enough not to doubt my DGB read Spyspy. Just like how I have never once been wrong on your alignment, I never screw up when I call DGB scum.

[SnarkySnowman]

Vote: Katsuki

[SpyreX]

I'll promise you ill think about it if you're town. Thats all i can give.

[Katsuki]

Speaking of never being wrong on reads...

Skimming this page, Farside you should know that you're always an insane cop when it comes to me and you're pretty much never right when it comes to me, both when I'm town and when I'm scum.

p-edit: oho, how interesting.

p-edit II: You better!

[SpyreX]

Yeaaa that was some special magic right there.

[Katsuki]

I never made sense as scum anyways. It's not as if PJ didn't post like 6 different reasons already as to why it's literally impossible for me to be scum, starting with the camn kill.

It is sad that anyone would think that in a world where I push a quicklynch on scum D1 and follow it up with a camn NK N1 that I could possibly be scum.

[Katsuki]

Well I never did get to do that readthrough that I wanted to...

On a gut level I'm not fond of implosion, and well CES was wrong on Equinox slot.
DGB is still scum through and through
UTL I severely disliked her posts at the start of the day, and the one post I skimmed through somewhere. Only thing giving me pause is as you stated she didn't need to come out publicly with that info to alleviate pressure off of Snarky, unless they're both scum together.

Oh ya UTL now I get to be a bitch to you for being wrong about me forever, enjoy!

[Katsuki]

(disclaimer on the accuracy of the above reads since I haven;t really read this game past D1 apart from the occasional PJ post, aside from DGB that melon needs to come off that neck)

[SpyreX]

Man kats that equinox kill. :/
Cause that's the one that i just couldn't

[Katsuki]

I had a choice, I took it.

Shiny bullets man, I couldn't resist. :<

[SpyreX]

I know i know. Dangit. Another life sweet kat

[Katsuki]

Don't be swayed by DGB's pretty words, those whispers of sweet nothings are tainted by her scum heart

[mykonian]

Because from merceneries conquests come but slowly, long delayed and inconsiderable, but the losses sudden and portentous.

Votecount:

Katsuki (5): DrippingGoofball, Farside22, Uptoolate, Katsuki, Snarkysnowman
Snarkysnowman (1): Spyrex

not voting (3): Cogito Ergo Sum, Petroleumjelly, Implosion

A mass of people came for Katsuki. They would take no more. They dragged him out of his palace, ended his life there.

Katsuki, the

vanilla townie

, has been lynched.

It is now night 3, for 3 days.

[mykonian]

Every one sees what you appear to be, few really know what you are, and those few dare not oppose themselves to the opinion of the many, who have the majesty of the state to defend them.

CES and UTL were on duty tonight, on a mission to take care of another element of the city who would not fall in line. In a situation like this, one could not do with someone spreading lies. Snarkysnowman had pissed off the wrong people, and it was his time.

As they passed an alley they saw a man, passed out drunk, just in sight of the main street. That would not do. UTL poked him, but that was no drunk. That's how they found implosion, with stab wounds all over. Both were shocked, but CES took charge: "we have a mission to do, we'll report this later".

Snarkysnowman, the unlucky soul, was about to leave his place when he came eye to eye with these experienced fighters. He stood no chance. As UTL bent over to make certain that Snarky had left the mortal world, CES started talking: "Snarky put up too much of a fight, he was waiting for us. I could not save UTL". Before UTL could utter her surprise, CES's sword was burried in her back.

Snarkysnowman, the

Town homicide watcher

and Implosion, the

town tracker

were killed night 3.


The mafia of Petroleumjelly, Cogito Ergo Sum, DrippingGoofball and Killthestory has won the game!

[mykonian]

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