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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:40 am
by Lil Uzi Vert
Wait, how much time do we have left until the deadline? I just said I would if Giga really wants to but if we have less than 5 days, I guess I will. I just really want to discuss with Giga what should be the best course of action since I don't trust my judgement this game.

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:41 am
by MathBlade
6 - rb
9 - Creature
14 - Jackel98
26 - MariaR
42 - Vedith
77 - kraska77
3141592653 - Titus
4 - MagnaofIllusion
4 - Transcend
5 - gerryoat
5 - Fishythefish
11 - davesaz
11 - Kison
13 - gigabyteTroubadour
13 - Maxous
17 - drealmerz7
17 - Drone
2 - Vecna
2 - Dunnstral
2 - SpyreX
12 - McMenno
12 - Lil Uzi Vert
12 - Vifam

Keep in mind a suicidal innocent child is almost useless without a doc. The chances keep going up as if you will die with each card. Where exactly does Giga show this timidness?

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:42 am
by MathBlade
In post 167, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:
In post 165, Maxous wrote:why are we wagoning him?
two people is hardly a wagon
Instead there is stuff here that can easily be cross talk meant for another thread.

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:43 am
by Fishythefish
@LUV: we have 5 days. But that's not much considering the number of claims we need, plus a lynch. giga is up for massclaim, as is nearly everyone else. It's time for you to tell us those cards.

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:45 am
by Fishythefish
@MB: My thoughts on giga are that scum would be crazy to take (or falsely claim) a card that gives them zero power except to be trusted as town for a day or two until hearts come up and they die. You can cry WIFOM all you like, but
even with
the trust giga is getting in this game, having that card would be a mistake.

Pretty sure I'm the biggest massclaim pusher, btw :)

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:45 am
by Maxous
Giga will either be confirmed town or confirmed scum when a hearts is trump

what the fuck are we even arguing at this point.

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:48 am
by Lil Uzi Vert
I have a feeling I'm going to regret this but regardless I'm only listening to what Giga wants to do. No one else.

Queen of Hearts
9 of Spades
7 of Clubs

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:49 am
by MathBlade
It is a matter of denying power to town and then rigging the deck with towns permission to not have a heart. (No context thread later)

Not all scum have to make it to end game. Only one does. And by denying Town an innocent child and claiming it to get as much usefulness as Giga can means one less scum that can be lynched.

We are discussing it because it matters. No one gets a townread for a card just like they don't get a scumread.

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:50 am
by Maxous
oh wow.

we have 4 kills

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:55 am
by Fishythefish
In post 5302, MathBlade wrote:
In post 167, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:
In post 165, Maxous wrote:why are we wagoning him?
two people is hardly a wagon
Instead there is stuff here that can easily be cross talk meant for another thread.
Really? You think that Max slipped and talked in this thread
and giga replied
? That's just... so unlikely.
In post 5297, MathBlade wrote:If Giga is confirmed town as most people are acting as Giga is then scum have to waste an NK on him giving PRs more time to act.

By delaying that until we have the firm if Giga is town then we know that Giga and Dunn have been pushing it from a good place and we have one of our PRs live longer.

In contrast Giga and Dunn have been the big ones with the push for mass claim. If Giga is scum this literally hands them their kills and who they need to fool. For example I don't need to be NK'd because of my spades cards I can be policy lynched or if I get to end game and spades gets up and it takes 0 votes to lynch me I am dead.

It is a matter of motivation and proper claiming so we don't give scum too.

Pedit Grey and Maxous.
The other problem (other than giga being obvtown) is that we aren't getting giga confirmed for at least 2 days, even if we put all our efforts into it. It's just not a good enough reason to delay indefinitely.

Even if giga and dunn
are
scum, there are more townread people with known good cards - me, for example. We're not helping scum with their kills that much.

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Forgot when talking about lynching: dave kill seems very likely from the clubs hood.

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Pedit: Interesting! Uzi is the other beta vig. Note that only Uzi currently has a kill tonight (lower in the draft). My first thought is lynch him, and let spyrex shoot.

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:57 am
by Fishythefish
Massclaim status - Vecna's up

42 - Mathblade - Jc, 2s, 8s
77 - -Grey- - Kd, 8h, 10h
5 - gerryoat
5 - Fishythefish 4c, Js (gone), 2c (gone)
11 - Kison
13 - gigabyteTroubadour - 2h, 3c
13 - Maxous
17 - drealmerz7
2 - Vecna
2 - Dunnstral - 2d, 4s, 7h
2 - SpyreX - 2c, 8c, 9c
12 - McMenno -3c, 3d (missed 7h)
12 - Lil Uzi Vert - Qh, 9s, 7c
12 - TWIE 5c, 9c (missed 8s)

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:58 am
by Fishythefish
Typo: spyrex's cards are all spades, not clubs.

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 12:02 pm
by Maxous
oh wait only Uzi can shoot since he is lower in the draft.

uhhh, way to keep quiet about that one m8

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 12:04 pm
by SpyreX
I'm officially weirding myself out on math blade. Its just the adamant push thats sooo strange I'm paranoiding myself into town

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 12:05 pm
by Maxous
In post 5302, MathBlade wrote:
In post 167, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:
In post 165, Maxous wrote:why are we wagoning him?
two people is hardly a wagon
Instead there is stuff here that can easily be cross talk meant for another thread.
yo Math.

since quoting my ISO, why don't you go ahead and quote my stuff with Maria

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 12:05 pm
by Maxous
you're quoting*

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 12:10 pm
by MathBlade
In post 1438, Maxous wrote:
@Maria:
do you enjoy playing scum or no?
You mean this softball of a question?

Or where you then started a choo on her?

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 12:11 pm
by MathBlade
Choo choo train*

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 12:11 pm
by Dunnstral
In post 5306, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I have a feeling I'm going to regret this but regardless I'm only listening to what Giga wants to do. No one else.

Queen of Hearts
9 of Spades
7 of Clubs
So you have a vig shot right now?

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 12:12 pm
by Dunnstral
Hey uzi, what are your thoughts on shooting mathblade right now?

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 12:12 pm
by MathBlade
In post 1110, Maxous wrote:oh for fuck sake

somebody just vig Transcend ASAP for having a cop disabler if nothing else. TIA


VOTE: Jackel98

:up: :up: if you want a flash-wagon there's likely the best choice
And here where you want someone bigger because Card choice even though Card choice is not alignment indicative?

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 12:16 pm
by Dunnstral
He wasn't saying it was alignment indicative there. Transcend had an anti-town card and him dying would allow cops to perform checks

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 1:13 pm
by MathBlade
Yeah I don't like it. The only reason someone should be vigged is if you think they are scum.

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 2:13 pm
by gerryoat
In post 5283, TheWayItEnds wrote:id lynch gerry.

or kison
Lmao

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 2:16 pm
by gerryoat
In post 5258, Dunnstral wrote:iso gerry

there isn't a reason to not lynch him anymore. Let's lynch mathblade and gerry
Notice how he didn't start fosing me until after he slipped lol