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Post Post #8825 (ISO) » Sat Jul 08, 2017 7:22 pm

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I live really long as scum because I don't start fights ~(*-*)~
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Following the previous dozen pages that cropped up in the last 10 hours I would like to congratulate Ginngie for being drunk with distinction. - Vi
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Post Post #8826 (ISO) » Sat Jul 08, 2017 7:23 pm

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yeah but i was really glad to be out of this game when i did get out.
I was very annoyed with mastina.
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Post Post #8827 (ISO) » Sat Jul 08, 2017 7:23 pm

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okay but when are you not is the thing
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Following the previous dozen pages that cropped up in the last 10 hours I would like to congratulate Ginngie for being drunk with distinction. - Vi
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Post Post #8828 (ISO) » Sat Jul 08, 2017 7:25 pm

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usually when i am not in games with her or when I am sleeping.
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I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.

His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #8829 (ISO) » Sat Jul 08, 2017 9:22 pm

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wow, now that sure is an outcome i did not see coming. GJ to my teammates i guess.

im fine with the release of the scum pt. This game felt rather strange to me, and getting involuntarily bussed on in the way that it happened sure was a first. Im still wondering if MoW also wouldve gotten rolecopped there if he hadnt replaced out - it felt to me it happened more "because RC" than any other reason.
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Post Post #8830 (ISO) » Sun Jul 09, 2017 5:19 am

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Btw, I'd also note that this was ANOTHER game showing the pro scum power of neighborhoods. Magna and spiffed hard pocketed their hoods, and shenanigans with spiffeh gave him the cred he desperately needed.

Hoods can be fun. But they are CONSISTENTLY proscum. The fantasy of "town sharing info and working together in the hood" never really plays out, while the reality of "scum make maximal use of hoods to their advantage" continues to play out.

Town should have won. There were chances and we blew it. Fine. But anyone claiming this was townsided, with a 5/4 PR split, and hoods, and scum power flagrantly countering town power AND a troll role for scum, is simply wrong.
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Post Post #8831 (ISO) » Sun Jul 09, 2017 5:24 am

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I mean smith

mastina treated a her hood as a masonry and it had half it's population be scum :P
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Post Post #8832 (ISO) » Sun Jul 09, 2017 8:26 am

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In post 8821, RadiantCowbells wrote:Guys you dont understand, I LITERALLY HAVE TO be a gigantic piece of shit every game or sometimes people lynch me.

literally the only thing i can do is ruin the game for everyone else in it, because thats what people expect of me, and like what, im supposed to not ruin games?

how dare all of you say all of those mean and completely accurate things about me.
oh well why didnt you just say so.
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Post Post #8833 (ISO) » Sun Jul 09, 2017 8:26 am

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In post 8794, TheWayItEnds wrote:All you have to do is care more about a game than anyone but yourself.
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Post Post #8834 (ISO) » Sun Jul 09, 2017 8:33 am

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In post 8822, mhsmith0 wrote:Btw if anyone has useful advice for me ("don't be wrong" obv not super helpful), I'd appreciate it. I tried, failed, and at least would like to learn SOMETHING from it
learn that no matter how measured and informed your guesses are, they are still guesses
80% right still leaves 20% for error
stay strong because in my honest opinion i doubt many people on this site have much effective advice for you, instead it feels like we need to catch up
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Post Post #8835 (ISO) » Sun Jul 09, 2017 8:37 am

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Clearly you have t seen my scum game :lol:
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Post Post #8836 (ISO) » Sun Jul 09, 2017 8:37 am

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^
Haven't
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Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
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Post Post #8837 (ISO) » Sun Jul 09, 2017 8:43 am

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i was speaking exclusively wrt your towngame >:V
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Post Post #8838 (ISO) » Sun Jul 09, 2017 8:59 am

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Meh. I think I'm above site average as town, but this is a good example of my limits. I can't make people care, I can't force people to make content, I really don't like "ok tell us what to do" mode, and sometimes I just get stuff wrong.
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SR: I want to give him a day
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Post Post #8839 (ISO) » Sun Jul 09, 2017 11:01 am

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In post 8830, mhsmith0 wrote:Magna and spiffed hard pocketed their hoods, and shenanigans with spiffeh gave him the cred he desperately needed.
Wrong.
The one and only reason I was defending Spiffeh is because he had claimed tracker-inventor in the PT.
At the time, keeping the tracker inventor secret > everything else, because there were two scum alive.
You'll note I died the moment that was no longer the case!
Because I was only, only, ONLY defending Spiffeh because of the tracker-inventor utility. Had he not himself outted it, I was going to out it the next day and explain that as being the real reason I was defending him.

Spiffeh was a scumread of SAD's--not pocketed.
Spiffeh wasn't very townread by Sakura until the claim--not pocketed.
We were protecting Spiffeh because we valued his role.

Not because we valued his play.
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Post Post #8840 (ISO) » Sun Jul 09, 2017 11:12 am

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In post 8831, Ginngie wrote:mastina treated a her hood as a masonry and it had half it's population be scum :P
That was always intended to be a temporary thing. And then circumstances gave it an extension--on D2, I was willing to extend the "all town" idea to the remaining three for a day phase or two, if for no better reason than convenience.

On D3, we had good reason to believe Spiffeh if scum would be too stupid to have actually killed Gorkington. This was not a hard-clear, but it was enough where he sure wasn't going to be the focus.

Spiffeh claimed to us N3.
So on D4 onwards, we had good reason to protect Spiffeh: valuing his role for the endgame. Would we have given him an indefinite pass off of his role? FUCK no. I was the first to call the tracker-inventor scum as you'd note multiple times both in-thread and in our neighborhood. Spiffeh claiming it was a moment of "well that's something which could be scum but is valuable if not scum". Nobody in my position would have done any differently. Everyone. EVERYONE. In the game. At that time. Was saying the same thing: "If we get it down to one scum, the JK/tracker combo will let us POE the scum".

And I knew who the tracker-inventor was. So I was protecting that POE strategy. I was protecting the endgame plan the town had set up. And you're a liar if you say you'd have done differently. Ultimately, play > roles, yes. But that doesn't mean you just throw out the potential utility of a role on a whim of an unstable read. Spiffeh using his track in the way specified for the town = he helps the town. Spiffeh going off the rails for WHATEVER reason no matter how reasonable the excuse sounds = lynch the fuck out of him. That was my process at the time. (Incidentally, him giving ME the track was him going off the rails and something I was suspicious about. But at that point with him and I being the last survivors in our 'hood, I didn't want to tip my hand to my suspicion. I was not the optimal person to give the track to; I wasn't even the second-most-optimal person to give the track to. It was convenient and I knew it, but I also knew literally anything I'd say to that effect would just encourage him to nightkill me and at that stage I didn't want to be nightkilled, so.)
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Post Post #8841 (ISO) » Sun Jul 09, 2017 11:49 am

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Well played mastina.
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I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.

His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #8842 (ISO) » Sun Jul 09, 2017 1:17 pm

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Good Game
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I will definitely try harder next time!

I'm sorry for my part in throwing our win.
Vaxkiller is not anti-vaccine, he is a killer of Vax machines.

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Post Post #8843 (ISO) » Sun Jul 09, 2017 1:55 pm

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vax i only read along from the very end of d10 and i wasn't spoiled by the dead thread but your emotional outburst read scummier than me when i roll anything that isn't VT

i'm not trying to rag on you or anything but it just looked super shady, i thought we had it in the bag based on it alone
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Post Post #8844 (ISO) » Tue Jul 11, 2017 6:31 pm

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got no objections so here's the scum pt

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Post Post #8845 (ISO) » Wed Jul 12, 2017 7:51 am

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In post 8750, Spiffeh wrote:I wasn't in laundry I think you mean Defcon
Arthur looked around, sniffed, and thought, "I bet Spiffeh is totally spectating this game right now."
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