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Post Post #4525 (ISO) » Mon May 08, 2017 9:23 am

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I think most players, if not all, can and peobably should keep this game somewhere not too far in the back of their heads. I don't blame anyone for anything and I know for one that I'm a terrible mafia player myself but...

I hope some of you see that if everyone throws their ego in the game, it becomes a toxic mess.
If a few hyperpost and the others lurk, the gamestate will become ehh...this.
Lastly, the game had so many underused/unused things. Mafia had some cool stuff and just didn't use it.

/small rant
I hope that's not too rude
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Post Post #4526 (ISO) » Mon May 08, 2017 9:27 am

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Scum had the ability to switch where they could kill
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Post Post #4527 (ISO) » Mon May 08, 2017 9:37 am

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Scum had quite a few things we could use:

Metal detector: If you are in reality, you may check a player. You will learn if they have a gun. This ability also sees guns in virtual reality. Players with guns are other mafia factions, vigilantes, cops and all variants and PGO's.
system.reset(); If you are in Virtual Reality, you may reset all Virtual Reality links of a target player.

Power intervention: If you are in reality, you may shut down all non-factional communication for the next Night Phase.

Hacker Training/Navy Seal Training: You may convert a hacker to a former navy seal or vica versa.
If you change to a former navy seal, you can only kill players in Reality while in Reality.
If you change to a hacker, you can only kill players in Virtual Reality while in Virtual Reality.
You can convert yourself. There is no location required to use this ability.

world.execute(Player player); If you are in Virtual Reality, you may choose to fully kill a player who has died in either Reality or Virtual Reality, but not in both. Someone else may still perform the nightkill on the night you use this.


It had to be someone else than the nightkiller to use these, and lack of people in the scum thread while I was alive and trying to use these led to them not being used at all. :/
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Post Post #4528 (ISO) » Mon May 08, 2017 9:40 am

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the changing location for kills would have thrown us badly, as we were planning on mass migration if we took out two killers from on dimension
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Post Post #4529 (ISO) » Mon May 08, 2017 9:40 am

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also the execute would be useful.
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Post Post #4530 (ISO) » Mon May 08, 2017 9:44 am

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All the power mafia had was rather weak, but could be very powerful if used at the right moments.
The town PR's were kind of designed with the same philosophy; they needed to make decisions about where to reside, but they coule increase their strength by quite some if they worked together closely.

Eventually none of that happened but whatever :lol:
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Post Post #4531 (ISO) » Mon May 08, 2017 9:48 am

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im pretty happy with my decision making on areas. i was planning to switch a night earlier to maximise tracker utility but i stayed an extra night to protect vecna
which the failed
so yeah that optimisation kinda failed.
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Post Post #4532 (ISO) » Mon May 08, 2017 9:50 am

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The link reset timing was good, and the disable communications would have been good the day before but it didn't happen. The potential was there.
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Post Post #4533 (ISO) » Mon May 08, 2017 9:52 am

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i feel like if people play it smart unless you had a reason to be in reality there is no benefit other VR due to links. but then that makes scum NKs easier. so it really boils down to WIFOM on correct dimensions, and the real skill is in convincing scum you are where you aren't.
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Post Post #4534 (ISO) » Mon May 08, 2017 10:09 am

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we carried this shit ayy
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Post Post #4535 (ISO) » Mon May 08, 2017 10:31 am

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In post 4474, Randomnamechange wrote:i was expecting to get NKed last night but Titus still gets lynched there tbh. me being alive today was a p muh guaranteed win but we probably win anyway. Pretty happy with correctly calling ge/titus yesterday. titus im assuming you are a strongman?
Yay for teamwork RM!

A pleasure again as allways - the plan mightve not gone completely as intended, but I still view it as a succes, even though I miraculously died there ^^
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Post Post #4536 (ISO) » Mon May 08, 2017 10:32 am

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You did jack shit
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Post Post #4537 (ISO) » Mon May 08, 2017 10:33 am

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Lmfaoo
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Post Post #4538 (ISO) » Mon May 08, 2017 10:42 am

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In post 4535, Vecna wrote:
In post 4474, Randomnamechange wrote:i was expecting to get NKed last night but Titus still gets lynched there tbh. me being alive today was a p muh guaranteed win but we probably win anyway. Pretty happy with correctly calling ge/titus yesterday. titus im assuming you are a strongman?
Yay for teamwork RM!

A pleasure again as allways - the plan mightve not gone completely as intended, but I still view it as a succes, even though I miraculously died there ^^
plans working as intended is no fun :P
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Post Post #4539 (ISO) » Mon May 08, 2017 10:54 am

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no one kept me company in the unspoiled thread though... disappointing
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Post Post #4540 (ISO) » Mon May 08, 2017 10:56 am

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In post 4527, Clumsy wrote:Scum had quite a few things we could use:

Metal detector: If you are in reality, you may check a player. You will learn if they have a gun. This ability also sees guns in virtual reality. Players with guns are other mafia factions, vigilantes, cops and all variants and PGO's.
system.reset(); If you are in Virtual Reality, you may reset all Virtual Reality links of a target player.

Power intervention: If you are in reality, you may shut down all non-factional communication for the next Night Phase.

Hacker Training/Navy Seal Training: You may convert a hacker to a former navy seal or vica versa.
If you change to a former navy seal, you can only kill players in Reality while in Reality.
If you change to a hacker, you can only kill players in Virtual Reality while in Virtual Reality.
You can convert yourself. There is no location required to use this ability.

world.execute(Player player); If you are in Virtual Reality, you may choose to fully kill a player who has died in either Reality or Virtual Reality, but not in both. Someone else may still perform the nightkill on the night you use this.


It had to be someone else than the nightkiller to use these, and lack of people in the scum thread while I was alive and trying to use these led to them not being used at all. :/
Wow......I wouldve loved to have been scum with that set of abilities........

Why did you guys not abuse that conversion after I was going crazy that it was obvious there were 2 reality and 2 VR? It couldve given you such easy false townclears on people ^^

Anyways, apologies for the lying people - But I had to balance keeping RM alive for town auto, not making it too obvious I did in fact have a 1shot cop, while also trying to force the NK on me regardless so RM could save me. 2/3 wasnt too bad I guess.

Also Math, next time - pretty please, dont make my life so hard every game? (And sorry to KidAmn for doing the same to you, but just see it as a compliment that I see you pulling off that kind of high level play as scum I guess).

Thanks for the great setup mod - Its almost a shame that it didnt get the full player attention it deserved because it had the potential for some very interesting endgame.

Btw, how did I die? I still didnt spot a strongman. Guess i have some checking of full scum abilities to do.
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Post Post #4541 (ISO) » Mon May 08, 2017 11:04 am

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Oh, people did actually try to link me last night - Guess I ended up choosing poorly in the end. Was on RM at first, but didnt think KidAmn was onto it since he never responded to RM's question whether zach/KA would link to me.

Sitting in VR without even being able to push a message was kind of lonely, and then I botch it up myself in the end. oops.
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Post Post #4542 (ISO) » Mon May 08, 2017 11:06 am

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Zach who's the loli in your avi?
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Post Post #4543 (ISO) » Mon May 08, 2017 11:11 am

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Victorique from Gosick.
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Post Post #4544 (ISO) » Mon May 08, 2017 11:14 am

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Random's doc only protected you in VR, but you were killed in Reality. That is how you died xd
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Post Post #4545 (ISO) » Mon May 08, 2017 11:17 am

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Oh I see, guess I misunderstood him then when he explained its use.
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Post Post #4546 (ISO) » Mon May 08, 2017 11:33 am

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I was quite sure it was an ability that broke links. I saw no issue with it at all, and like it as an ability.

someone can neighborize as an ability, so someone can de-neighborize as an ability, makes sense
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Post Post #4547 (ISO) » Mon May 08, 2017 11:37 am

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In post 4488, KidAmn wrote:the amount of waffling on claims (lookin at you PM&C/Cloud/Gerry"I'm a cop"Oat)
look at my role dude, i was a cop lol. i just faked a guilty on clumsy cause he was obvious mafia.
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Post Post #4548 (ISO) » Mon May 08, 2017 11:39 am

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i wish i was regular cop, i checked 3 scums.

thanks for hosting, scout! i will /pre in for whatever you host next, your games are the best.
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Post Post #4549 (ISO) » Mon May 08, 2017 12:09 pm

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Again, great game and flavor. scout hmu if you do the sequel
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