17 Kilos of Cocaine - [GAME OVER]
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I'm not super into the habit of believing claimed scum so let's at least get Cephrir's target before we finish off Bins. I don't really mind going without xyzzy's pledge or Ginn's claim but the Cephrir claim is actually important."Don’t buy a dozen eggs if you just want a hardboiled egg. Don’t buy a head of lettuce if you just want a salad. Don’t buy eggs and lettuce if you want egg salad because those are not the right ingredients." -Julius Bloop- Bins
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don't put him past l-2 yet for self hammer. I'll need to coordinate with an online townie to get l-1 and L done before he can self hammerPapa Zito - "Your signature has been blanked...we remove signatures at a users request if said signature references them, or if it quotes from a thread in the Speakeasy, which is not allowed without permission of the poster"- Ellibereth
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I would just like to say that I loved this.In post 1862, hitogoroshi wrote:
Yup. and xyz needs to confirm they'll give you coke tonight, and Ginn needs to claim. And technically Reck needs to pledge to shoot someone but we already have that pledge by virtue of him being Reck.chesskid3 wrote:ya so cephrir has to announce before hammer who he is rbing
In fact I'll write it as a nice checklist
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VOTE: Bins
Time to end the game.
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"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown- Firebringer
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I'll vote this again in morning.
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"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown- Spiffeh
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LOLIn post 1871, Bins wrote:two games in a row where im last scum in a large theme when i had an initial team of 3 zzz- chesskid3
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ENDGAME
MOBTOWN – A Mobtown woman was arrested on marijuana trafficking charges after police said they found about 1 kilogram of cocaine in her vehicle after she was pulled over Friday in Mobtown Lake.
Reporter Jacqueline Conway, 29, of Mobtown news station, was charged with cocaine trafficking, delivery of cocaine, possession of cocaine, possession of a controlled substance and two traffic-related offenses. She could face up to 30 years in prison if convicted of the most serious charge.
Mobtown County Sheriff’s deputies pulled over a vehicle without any visible registration about 12:30 p.m. Friday on Route 159 in the area of Dwarf Road in Mobtown Lake, according to a news release.
Deputies said they smelled cocaine, searched the vehicle and found more than a kilogram of packaged cocaine, according to a news release.
She remains at the Mobtown County Jail in lieu of posting 10 percent of her $2 million bond, and she will appear Aug. 28 in Lake County court.
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Those of who guessed it:YES, EVERYONE STARTED WITH 1 KILO OFCOCAINE.
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Setup thoughts:
Thanks for playing, y'all. I'm not 100% sure but I do think this is a scum-sided setup, fwiw. The setup's core problem to solve from Town's POV is obviously the ACCUMULATION of cocaine. The scum win condition results in day or two faster (sometimes even earlier!) scum win than usual 17p setups, on top of it being hard for town to keep track of exactly how much time they have remaining. Flips being alignment + role name only tends to hurt town more than scum, if only ever so slightly. The only public role being a VT makes it annoying for scum team to fabricate good fakeclaims, but honestly, I think the entire scum team can just claim VT in a massclaim and still come out ahead.
Let's look at town's PR list. They have a loud roleblocker, an odd-night vig, and a 2-shot bulletproof. The Cocaine Cops do next to nothing since every player already starts with cocaine, not to mention that it's delayed a phase and possibly vetoed by another role. Sure, maybe they'll get a negative cocaine result once in a blue moon due to cocaine movers/thief, but movers/thief are NAI roles and that doesn't help. GroupMe Neighborhood is power neutral, and nearly useless as a private discussion thread due to it getting locked and leaked upon a member's death. Heck, really the only meaningful thing that can happen in there is if the Drug Maker guy outs his role for some odd reason in the neighborhood, in which case it pretty much just hurts town since it outs the extra source of cocaine when the neighborhood becomes public. The 1-shot cocaine movers can maybe pull something cute by hammering and dumping their stash on some other guy before getting shot, but this tactic doesn't buy time on the long run, since cocaine stash is still being concentrated into one spot. The 1-shot Cocaine Thief is town positive utility for sure, since removing even a kilo of cocaine can buy a lot of time. (although the cocaine imbalance is eventually removed by the Night 3 Drug Maker) Speaking of, the Night 3 Drug maker has a choice to make. He can try to keep his extra cocaine load on the DL and try to survive as long as he can, or get himself off'd before Night 3 and contribute to the cocaine accumulation. I'm not sure which one is better, but definitely a neg utility role for town.
I don't really see town getting much use out of roleblocker unless scum team's numbers start dwindling. He can try to stop some kills maybe but this role's utility it comes down to luck and skill of the player in this slot. And god forbid if the roleblock lands on the cocaine thief. (1:1 player to cocaine ratio breached; ENGAGE COCAINE OVERDOSE!) The 2-shot BP is an awesome role for town to have, but it also comes down to the BP to convince the town that he really is a town role and people should trust him with apparently a mountain of cocaine. The odd-night vig mostly hurts town since the role accumulates cocaine for the mafia to pick up later. (EXCEPTION being a high accuracy vig, which is a rare and wondrous creature)
Scum has a 1-shot bulletproof self-watcher, a cocaine counter, and a MUTHERFUCKIN EVEN-NIGHT VIG. (!) To say this role is a powerful one is an understatement, especially in a setup like this. This god role brings the PAIN and tempo advantage for scum endgame, firepower to actually breach in time the stupid Banker's 2-shot Bulletproof and his cocaine mountain (assuming the 2shot bulletproof actually managed to convince the town to hand him over literally all of the goods), and flexibility when it comes to gunning down priority players (since the hammerer automatically becomes a good target for scum and should be shot). The 1-shot bp self-watcher is to hint to scum team about the existence of the town odd-night vig, reduce swing from a lucky vig shot, and give scum extra info for selecting night targets. The cocaine counter is obviously way better than the cocaine cop, and is invaluable in sussing out good targets for the night kill.
In reality, none of this really mattered much since all three scum team members got scumread D1 and then D1 ended with a lynch on the scum god role.
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yeah no setup can compare to the fact scum lost their strongest role on d1 unfortunately
then as that occurs without the vig this game gets twice as hard
i just dont agree with such large ratios. 3-14 is hard to swing things in your favour even d1 just due to numbers. i think that matters. coming from a game that was like 3-21 i just keep feeling like im fighting a wall - Bins
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