17 Kilos of Cocaine - [GAME OVER]

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Post Post #1875  (ISO)  » Thu Oct 05, 2017 11:49 pm

I'm not super into the habit of believing claimed scum so let's at least get Cephrir's target before we finish off Bins. I don't really mind going without xyzzy's pledge or Ginn's claim but the Cephrir claim is actually important.
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Post Post #1876  (ISO)  » Thu Oct 05, 2017 11:49 pm

ceph is goingto target spiffeh!!! ok hammer plz
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Post Post #1877  (ISO)  » Thu Oct 05, 2017 11:57 pm

Someone unvote

Me drink

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Post Post #1878  (ISO)  » Fri Oct 06, 2017 12:03 am

I'll just do fire. Feel medium about him, think his role could be town but I also think he will be a mislynch for his role later if not proven innocent
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Post Post #1879  (ISO)  » Fri Oct 06, 2017 12:07 am

don't put him past l-2 yet for self hammer. I'll need to coordinate with an online townie to get l-1 and L done before he can self hammer
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Post Post #1880  (ISO)  » Fri Oct 06, 2017 12:10 am

In post 1862, hitogoroshi wrote:
chesskid3 wrote:ya so cephrir has to announce before hammer who he is rbing


Yup. and xyz needs to confirm they'll give you coke tonight, and Ginn needs to claim. And technically Reck needs to pledge to shoot someone but we already have that pledge by virtue of him being Reck.

In fact I'll write it as a nice checklist

Quest: Day Three

Objectives (1/5)

  • [!] Hito, Chess, and Elli figure out who the scum is. [Complete!]
  • [ ] Cephrir claims who he will RB if Bins flips scum.
  • [ ] xyzzy pledges to give chess the sweet Colombian Nose Candy tonight.
  • [ ] Ginngie claims her role.
  • [ ] (Optional) Reckoner promises to do what he was always going to do.

Quest Reward: We get two whole days where we don't need to read this game


I would just like to say that I loved this.
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Post Post #1881  (ISO)  » Fri Oct 06, 2017 12:22 am

VoteCount 3.2


Firebringer [1] - Ginngie
xyzzy [1] - Firebringer
Bins [6] - hitogoroshi, xRECKONERx, WhemeStar, Desperado, Bins, Ellibereth
Spiffeh [1] - Bulbazak

Not Voting [5] - chesskid3, Spiffeh, Cephrir, xyzzy, grapes

With 14 alive it takes 8 votes to lynch.

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Post Post #1882  (ISO)  » Fri Oct 06, 2017 12:26 am

we should turn off preview and have gingie and chesskid post simultaneously and see who gets it.
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Post Post #1883  (ISO)  » Fri Oct 06, 2017 2:32 am

VOTE: Bins

Time to end the game.

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Post Post #1884  (ISO)  » Fri Oct 06, 2017 2:39 am

UNVOTE:
I'll vote this again in morning.
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Post Post #1885  (ISO)  » Fri Oct 06, 2017 6:55 am

VOTE: Bins

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Post Post #1886  (ISO)  » Fri Oct 06, 2017 6:55 am

UNVOTE:

Oh I guess I'll wait for chesskid

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Post Post #1887  (ISO)  » Fri Oct 06, 2017 6:56 am

In post 1871, Bins wrote:two games in a row where im last scum in a large theme when i had an initial team of 3 zzz

LOL

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Post Post #1888  (ISO)  » Fri Oct 06, 2017 6:59 am

im here Spiffeh!
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Post Post #1889  (ISO)  » Fri Oct 06, 2017 7:00 am

VOTE: Bins

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Post Post #1890  (ISO)  » Fri Oct 06, 2017 7:01 am

Vote: Bins
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Post Post #1891  (ISO)  » Fri Oct 06, 2017 7:03 am

VoteCount 3.3


Firebringer [1] - Ginngie
Bins [8] - hitogoroshi, xRECKONERx, WhemeStar, Desperado, Bins, Ellibereth, Spiffeh, chesskid3 [LYNCH]
Spiffeh [1] - Bulbazak

Not Voting [4] - Cephrir, xyzzy, grapes, Firebringer

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Post Post #1892  (ISO)  » Fri Oct 06, 2017 7:03 am

Bins, who was Jacqueline "Jay-queline" Conway, Reporter, and Mafia Cocaine Counter, has been lynched in Day 3.

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Post Post #1893  (ISO)  » Fri Oct 06, 2017 7:04 am

ENDGAME


MOBTOWN – A Mobtown woman was arrested on marijuana trafficking charges after police said they found about 1 kilogram of cocaine in her vehicle after she was pulled over Friday in Mobtown Lake.

Reporter Jacqueline Conway, 29, of Mobtown news station, was charged with cocaine trafficking, delivery of cocaine, possession of cocaine, possession of a controlled substance and two traffic-related offenses. She could face up to 30 years in prison if convicted of the most serious charge.

Mobtown County Sheriff’s deputies pulled over a vehicle without any visible registration about 12:30 p.m. Friday on Route 159 in the area of Dwarf Road in Mobtown Lake, according to a news release.

Deputies said they smelled cocaine, searched the vehicle and found more than a kilogram of packaged cocaine, according to a news release.

She remains at the Mobtown County Jail in lieu of posting 10 percent of her $2 million bond, and she will appear Aug. 28 in Lake County court.




Ellibereth, chesskid3, Spiffeh, Bulbazak, Ginngie, Desperado, xRECKONERx, Cephrir, WhemeStar, xyzzy, grapes, Firebringer, hitogoroshi, and Kagami, aligned with Town, wins the game!
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Post Post #1894  (ISO)  » Fri Oct 06, 2017 7:05 am

Those of who guessed it: YES, EVERYONE STARTED WITH 1 KILO OF COCAINE.

Spoiler: Action resolution
Keep in mind that there is no way for Cocaine to leave the setup, except 1 Kilogram that the hobo guy sets on fire.

Night Start:
Loud Roleblocker
Cocaine Thief
Cocaine Mover
Vig & Night kill (Simultaneous kills, if player A shoots player B who shoots player C, then player A takes all Cocaine. If Vig and scum shoot each other, then combined Cocaine goes to a random scum member)
Cocaine Cop
Cocaine Counter
Cocaine Maker


Spoiler: Role PMs
Kagami
FakeGod wrote:You are Captain Kenneth "Kenny" Bolrus and a Town Cocaine Cop.

"Criminals used to have honor, you know. Back in the day, when we caught them thugs, they wouldn't dump their drugs overboard and had us go clean up the mess. You get run down, and then you went quietly. None of this BS, whiny, sore loser crap. Ugh, this isn't helping my migraine at all. I should have called in sick or something."

During the night, you may request a search warrant for a player from the Judge, who will grant or deny the warrant for you by next night. Once you receive a warrant, you may search the player during the night to see whether he/she has cocaine or not. You do not know who the Judge is. If the Judge is dead, then you cannot get any more search warrants granted.

You have 1 kilogram of Cocaine. For purpose of evidence, of course.

You win when all Mafia-aligned players are dead, and there is at least one Town-aligned players alive.

Firebringer
FakeGod wrote:You are Lieutenant Maetra "Mae" King and a Town Cocaine Cop.

"I'll need to see that report again, sergeant. No, don't bring it to the captain. He said he had migraines this morning. I'll take care of it."

During the night, you may request a search warrant for a player from the Judge, who will grant or deny the warrant for you by next night. Once you receive a warrant, you may search the player during the night to see whether he/she has cocaine or not. You do not know who the Judge is. If the Judge is dead, then you cannot get any more search warrants granted.

You have 1 kilogram of Cocaine. For purpose of evidence.

You win when all Mafia-aligned players are dead, and there is at least one Town-aligned players alive.

xRECKONERx
FakeGod wrote:You are Private Eye/Cocaine Addict Steven "Stevie" Periwinkle and a Town Odd-Night Vig.

"No, kid, seriously, I'm really a detective. You don't believe me? You wanna see my gun?"

During the odd-numbered nights, you may kill a player.

You have 1 kilogram of Cocaine. You tend to find things when you need it enough.

You win when all Mafia-aligned players are dead, and there is at least one Town-aligned players alive.

WhemeStar
FakeGod wrote:You are Judge Fern "Your Honor" Nassimi and a Town Judge.

"Girl, I'm 82 and I've seen everything. There is nothing under the sun that will surprise me any more, not even finding several rocks of cocaine strewn across my backyard."

Starting from day 2, you will get requests for search warrants. You have until end of the day to deny or approve each of the search warrants. Any warrant you fail to address by the day's end will be automatically denied.

You have 1 kilogram of Cocaine. You have it wrapped up in tupperware.

You win when all Mafia-aligned players are dead, and there is at least one Town-aligned players alive.

Cephrir
FakeGod wrote:You are High Class Escort/Law Student Jennifer "Destiny" Vivre and a Town Loud Roleblocker.

"Dignity? No, I don't really go for the irony angle. The people I accompany tend to be unappreciative of finer mirth, sadly... It's pronounced Destiny."

During the night, you may roleblock a player. Your target will learn that he/she has been roleblocked.

You have 1 kilogram of Cocaine. One of your customer left it at the hotel room.

You win when all Mafia-aligned players are dead, and there is at least one Town-aligned players alive.

xyzzy
FakeGod wrote:You are Domino's Pizza Delivery Boy Duncan "Donut" Dapperwick and a Town 1-shot Cocaine Mover.

"2 dollar tip. For delivering pizza in this neighborhood. Fucking fan-tastic. We're going to meet again when you order pizza, ya hear me? I KNOW WHERE YOU LIVE, M*********ER."

During the night, you may anonymously give your stash of cocaine to another player. You can only try this once.

You have 1 kilogram of Cocaine. Maybe you can sell it for money?

You win when all Mafia-aligned players are dead, and there is at least one Town-aligned players alive.

Ginngie
FakeGod wrote:You are Papa Johns Pizza Delivery Girl Carolyn "Carrie" Checkers and a Town 1-shot Cocaine Mover.

"This is temporary until my vlog takes off. I'll be famous, you'll see."

During the night, you may anonymously give your stash of cocaine to another player. You can only try this once.

You have 1 kilogram of Cocaine. You didn't know it was cocaine when you picked it up! Or something! Still working on that alibi!

You win when all Mafia-aligned players are dead, and there is at least one Town-aligned players alive.

hitogoroshi
FakeGod wrote:You are Homeless Guy Albert "the One-tooth" Mare and a Town 1-shot Cocaine Thief.

"Ya got any change?"

During the night, you may steal someone else's stash of Cocaine and set it on fire. You will only steal 1 kilogram, and you can only do this once.

You have 1 kilogram of Cocaine. This one you won't set on fire.

You win when all Mafia-aligned players are dead, and there is at least one Town-aligned players alive.

ActionDan
FakeGod wrote:You are Deli Shopkeeper Eunie "Yum" Sang and a Mafia 1-shot Bulletproof Self-Watcher.

"Oh, how I wish all the customers that come to my shop just... died! They are the most dreadful, ungrateful, manner-less bunch I have ever seen!"

You may make the factional night kill. First attempt at your life will fail. (lynches still work normally) You also learn anyone who visits you during the night.

You have 1 kilogram of Cocaine. Not for the customers though.

You win when Mafia controls 12 or more kilograms of Cocaine.

Scum PT

Ellibereth
FakeGod wrote:You are Evangelist/Street preacher Munjab "Guru" Sahib and a Town VT.

"Love your enemies. Love your families and friends. Love the trees and the grass and the dirt and the block of asphalt over there. Love everything, and only then, will you reach enlightenment." *turns on tunak tunak tun*

You have no special powers.

You have 1 kilogram of Cocaine. Time to take your sermons to the next level.

You win when all Mafia-aligned players are dead, and there is at least one Town-aligned players alive.

grapes
FakeGod wrote:You are Elementary School English Teacher Lois "Missus" Dulaney and a Town VT.

"It's not 'Missus" Dulaney, honey. I'm not married yet. No, it's Miss Dulan... oh for God's sake, CHILD, call me Miss already!"

You have no special powers.

You have 1 kilogram of Cocaine. You earned it.

You win when all Mafia-aligned players are dead, and there is at least one Town-aligned players alive.

chesskid3
FakeGod wrote:You are Banker Markus "Mark-man" Dollars and a Town 2-shot Bulletproof.

"Still hiding money under your mattress? Contrary to popular belief, investing your financial assets in a government savings bond can help your money grow! Our team of professionals at Mark-man and Dollars will raise and nurture your investments as if they were their very own. We're very protective of our young! Trust our ex- perts to take care of your hard-earned money and make it work for you."

First two attempts at your life will fail. (lynches still work normally)

You have 1 kilogram of Cocaine. Shrug.

You win when all Mafia-aligned players are dead, and there is at least one Town-aligned players alive.

Bins
FakeGod wrote:You are Reporter Jacqueline "Jay-queline" Conway and a Mafia Cocaine Counter.

"Welcome to your 5 minute afternoon news, Mobtown! This is Jay-queline Conway, and I am reporting from the aftermath of the high speed chase just an hour ago."

You may make the factional night kill. In addition, you may investigate a player during the night and learn the amount of cocaine he/she has.

You have 1 kilogram of Cocaine. For now.

You win when Mafia controls 12 or more kilograms of Cocaine.

Scum PT

Wickedestjr
FakeGod wrote:You are Street Musician Gustavo "Off-key" Lopez and a Mafia Even-Night Vig.

"Beee-rum..... Bo-ra-pi-bo-ba-ra-pi-ra rum......." *forlorn trombone music continues*

You may make the factional night kill. In addition, every even-numbered night, you may kill a player and take his/her cocaine.

You have 1 kilogram of Cocaine. You would have gotten more, but too many bystanders.

You win when Mafia controls 12 or more kilograms of Cocaine.

Scum PT


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Post Post #1895  (ISO)  » Fri Oct 06, 2017 7:07 am

Setup thoughts:

Thanks for playing, y'all. I'm not 100% sure but I do think this is a scum-sided setup, fwiw. The setup's core problem to solve from Town's POV is obviously the ACCUMULATION of cocaine. The scum win condition results in day or two faster (sometimes even earlier!) scum win than usual 17p setups, on top of it being hard for town to keep track of exactly how much time they have remaining. Flips being alignment + role name only tends to hurt town more than scum, if only ever so slightly. The only public role being a VT makes it annoying for scum team to fabricate good fakeclaims, but honestly, I think the entire scum team can just claim VT in a massclaim and still come out ahead.

Let's look at town's PR list. They have a loud roleblocker, an odd-night vig, and a 2-shot bulletproof. The Cocaine Cops do next to nothing since every player already starts with cocaine, not to mention that it's delayed a phase and possibly vetoed by another role. Sure, maybe they'll get a negative cocaine result once in a blue moon due to cocaine movers/thief, but movers/thief are NAI roles and that doesn't help. GroupMe Neighborhood is power neutral, and nearly useless as a private discussion thread due to it getting locked and leaked upon a member's death. Heck, really the only meaningful thing that can happen in there is if the Drug Maker guy outs his role for some odd reason in the neighborhood, in which case it pretty much just hurts town since it outs the extra source of cocaine when the neighborhood becomes public. The 1-shot cocaine movers can maybe pull something cute by hammering and dumping their stash on some other guy before getting shot, but this tactic doesn't buy time on the long run, since cocaine stash is still being concentrated into one spot. The 1-shot Cocaine Thief is town positive utility for sure, since removing even a kilo of cocaine can buy a lot of time. (although the cocaine imbalance is eventually removed by the Night 3 Drug Maker) Speaking of, the Night 3 Drug maker has a choice to make. He can try to keep his extra cocaine load on the DL and try to survive as long as he can, or get himself off'd before Night 3 and contribute to the cocaine accumulation. I'm not sure which one is better, but definitely a neg utility role for town.

I don't really see town getting much use out of roleblocker unless scum team's numbers start dwindling. He can try to stop some kills maybe but this role's utility it comes down to luck and skill of the player in this slot. And god forbid if the roleblock lands on the cocaine thief. (1:1 player to cocaine ratio breached; ENGAGE COCAINE OVERDOSE!) The 2-shot BP is an awesome role for town to have, but it also comes down to the BP to convince the town that he really is a town role and people should trust him with apparently a mountain of cocaine. The odd-night vig mostly hurts town since the role accumulates cocaine for the mafia to pick up later. (EXCEPTION being a high accuracy vig, which is a rare and wondrous creature)

Scum has a 1-shot bulletproof self-watcher, a cocaine counter, and a MUTHERFUCKIN EVEN-NIGHT VIG. (!) To say this role is a powerful one is an understatement, especially in a setup like this. This god role brings the PAIN and tempo advantage for scum endgame, firepower to actually breach in time the stupid Banker's 2-shot Bulletproof and his cocaine mountain (assuming the 2shot bulletproof actually managed to convince the town to hand him over literally all of the goods), and flexibility when it comes to gunning down priority players (since the hammerer automatically becomes a good target for scum and should be shot). The 1-shot bp self-watcher is to hint to scum team about the existence of the town odd-night vig, reduce swing from a lucky vig shot, and give scum extra info for selecting night targets. The cocaine counter is obviously way better than the cocaine cop, and is invaluable in sussing out good targets for the night kill.

In reality, none of this really mattered much since all three scum team members got scumread D1 and then D1 ended with a lynch on the scum god role.

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Post Post #1896  (ISO)  » Fri Oct 06, 2017 7:10 am

This was a really fantastic Town I am so glad I was apart of it.

If only the Best Town Performance scummy was still a thing (ahem Reck)!

:)

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Post Post #1897  (ISO)  » Fri Oct 06, 2017 7:15 am

yeah no setup can compare to the fact scum lost their strongest role on d1 unfortunately
then as that occurs without the vig this game gets twice as hard

i just dont agree with such large ratios. 3-14 is hard to swing things in your favour even d1 just due to numbers. i think that matters. coming from a game that was like 3-21 i just keep feeling like im fighting a wall
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Post Post #1898  (ISO)  » Fri Oct 06, 2017 7:15 am

Thanks FakeGod for modding!

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Post Post #1899  (ISO)  » Fri Oct 06, 2017 7:15 am

like d1 lynch is something 3-14 is going to be weak too in any setup.

! could have played it better tho
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