Surreptitious II: Secrets and Misdirection
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To address Mikan's concerns about me.
I don't play like a normal person. I try looking at the game from a different angle. This however does no mean I am scum. Transcend is right when he says I am pretty lynchbaity but I won't hide behind that. I honestly did not read into Desperado this game and do consider him a scumread at this point. I am pretty sure Mikan is alisae and that means I can expect the tunnel on me.
And my "narratives" are not bad or spun. They are what I believe. I am scum hunting.
That said, I do not support the Mikan SR just because she is tunneling me. I would however consider SRing her is Snarky flips scum.
And coming up with a read in 2 posts. I based my read on a LACK of content and the timing of the posts while considering how few posts there were. I know what I am doing. I am pretty lynchbait but if you give me a chance I can hunt scum well.- Mikan Tsumiki
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FUCK UUUUUUUUUUIn post 577, momo wrote:I am pretty sure Mikan is alisae- Mikan Tsumiki
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Town can't even spin those naratives they don't have enough information. The fact you can is mind blowing.In post 577, momo wrote:And my "narratives" are not bad or spun. They are what I believe. I am scum hunting.
I don't care about yourself meta, and if you're lynchbaity or not.
I don't care if you don't play like a "normal" person what the fuck even is normal anyways.
Outing the Alt is just flat out rude btw.- WhyMafia
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These are Snarky's two posts.In post 8, SnarkySnowman wrote:Omae o wa shinderu
Who btw
Lurks a lot of the time early game.
So how the fuck do you get this quote pryamidIn post 451, momo wrote:
I think this post covers that. Adding on, Snarky gives 0 specifics. On top of this, he mentions his own group [to avoid suspicion] but is not ready to act upon it at all. Even if he does not want the hammer in his own group [for whatever reason including that he is scum trying to avoid a lynch] he should at least give some reads. It just reads very scum to me.In post 422, momo wrote:I don't really like snarky's play this game. This is his second [out of 2] posts and the only one with any real game furthering content. He starts of not placing any votes because the wagon is on his own group
and then as soon as the momentum begins to turn against C [Away from B] he pops on and hops on the wagon. No explanation, nothing. While I hate to vote my own group, I do think it is necessary at this point if there is any hope of a Snarky Lynch.
VOTE: Group B
What do y'all think?
p.s. Good to be playing mafia again...I missed this gameIn post 577, momo wrote:I would however consider SRing her is Snarky flips scum.
And coming up with a read in 2 posts. I based my read on a LACK of content and the timing of the posts while considering how few posts there were. I know what I am doing. I am pretty lynchbait but if you give me a chance I can hunt scum well.- Mikan Tsumiki
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Oh come on Alisae, the alt was obvious. I knew it as soon as you started scumreading me.
None of you know me irl but let me tell you something, if there is one thing I am good at, it's reading people. In life, when judging someone who you suspect is trying to manipulate you [or an audience] timing is everything. The timing and the content of Snarky's posts suggests scum. See, the timing [and the carefully controlled degree of minimal content] would be a perfect scum play at this point, especially for someone known to lurk early game. It would seem normal while alleviating pressure and turning it against another crowd.
I stand by this read.
Oh and Alisae, next time you make an alt, do remember that a new account won't have any grudges going into their first game.- Bulbazak
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It depends. I say we lynch scum first and then evaluate. Our decision is probably going to be influenced by what sort of scum was lyched, how the numbers in the group affect future play, and the individual strength of reads inside that group (for example, if scum is lynched in C, and you have strong enough reads that you think you can PoE the last scum with little to no downsides, that'd be good enough imo to go for the last scum in the group.). Getting stuck in a static "This is how we're going to do this, no matter what!" is dangerous and can be manipulated by scum who know what they're doing. I'm also very nervous about the idea of keeping the groups at equal sizes for ever and ever amen, when group size means nothing when it comes to PoE. We have the original groups on the first page, we can always use that to PoE, and differing sizes really won't affect that. The only thing you really need to keep size in mind for are PRs.In post 572, Rautherdir wrote: And game theory questions for everyone: What is the best way for town to benefit from the Groups system? Should we focus on a single group? Spread the attention evenly? Our town PRs have different abilities depending on group size, should we try and get a town PR of each ability? On the other hand, Traitors have different abilities based on group size, should we focus on getting/keeping them to their weakest?
But I'm thinking that this whole theory line of thought is turning into a red herring anyway.
And what do you think of trying to coax a CC out before getting to the lynching phase?In post 574, Majiffy wrote:CCs should always be immediate. If scum claims the PR first you're giving scum a lot of room to play with and lead town to disasterville by d3
This is a semantics argument, and it is bad.In post 579, Mikan Tsumiki wrote:
Town can't even spin those naratives they don't have enough information. The fact you can is mind blowing.In post 577, momo wrote:And my "narratives" are not bad or spun. They are what I believe. I am scum hunting.
Now that I know who you are, I'm looking at your slot a lot differently, and you're getting hard knocked into null.In post 579, Mikan Tsumiki wrote: Outing the Alt is just flat out rude btw.
I'm reminded of my argument with Mathblade in Night & Day, and I think Checkers is trying to bog this down into a theory argument, when my reason for scumreading his actions are so much more than that. I'll be typing that up in a little bit.Bulbazak is so town that everytime someone votes him Mastin coughs blood.- Nachomamma8, Maniacal Street Mafia
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And you're the one doing the fishing.In post 585, checkersman7 wrote: its an open setup you CC every time instantly
even you aren't this bad BulbBulbazak is so town that everytime someone votes him Mastin coughs blood.- Nachomamma8, Maniacal Street Mafia
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In post 423, Ginngie wrote:Subject: 17 Kilos of Cocaine - [GAME OVER]
chesskid3 wrote:Lmao are you calling me out on rolefishing? You lock the scummy shitheads to their pr claims day 1. if theyre scum you have them forced in a corner if theyre town scum arent shooting an obvtownDefender of justice. Sworn enemy of chesskid3.- InactionDan
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Good lord that's a horrible listIn post 589, momo wrote:This is my list of tentative Townreads in case anyone was wondering.
Majiffy
Bulbazak
Rautherdir
Transcend
WhyMafia --- I would like to see more scum hunting out of you though. I am letting that go since it is D1 however.- momo
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Explain why.In post 591, InactionDan wrote:
Good lord that's a horrible listIn post 589, momo wrote:This is my list of tentative Townreads in case anyone was wondering.
Majiffy
Bulbazak
Rautherdir
Transcend
WhyMafia --- I would like to see more scum hunting out of you though. I am letting that go since it is D1 however.- momo
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Because if there's one thing I'm good at it's reading people, and I don't judge any of the content by those 5 to be particularly towny, especially Rautherdir and Transcend. But I suppose if I had a biscuit to give I'd give it to Majiffy, solely on the basis of sticking with his scum read of LUV.
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my sidesIn post 594, InactionDan wrote:Because if there's one thing I'm good at it's reading people, and I don't judge any of the content by those 5 to be particularly towny, especially Rautherdir and Transcend. But I suppose if I had a biscuit to give I'd give it to Majiffy, solely on the basis of sticking with his scum read of LUV.
Spoiler:Defender of justice. Sworn enemy of chesskid3.- momo
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It's cause I already ate them allIn post 594, InactionDan wrote:Because if there's one thing I'm good at it's reading people, and I don't judge any of the content by those 5 to be particularly towny, especially Rautherdir and Transcend. But I suppose if I had a biscuit to give I'd give it to Majiffy, solely on the basis of sticking with his scum read of LUV.
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I do not careIn post 583, momo wrote:Oh come on Alisae, the alt was obvious. I knew it as soon as you started scumreading me.
it is still rude.
And tbh you were far more likely to be told imo.
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lol shut the fuck up this is complete bullshit and you know it.In post 583, momo wrote:None of you know me irl but let me tell you something, if there is one thing I am good at, it's reading people. In life, when judging someone who you suspect is trying to manipulate you [or an audience] timing is everything. The timing and the content of Snarky's posts suggests scum. See, the timing [and the carefully controlled degree of minimal content] would be a perfect scum play at this point, especially for someone known to lurk early game. It would seem normal while alleviating pressure and turning it against another crowd.
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UmIn post 583, momo wrote:Oh and Alisae, next time you make an alt, do remember that a new account won't have any grudges going into their first game.
you're scum?
I don't see the problem.
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OkayIn post 584, Bulbazak wrote:This is a semantics argument, and it is bad.
so I understand lolbulba
but there's a difference
Town does some stupid shit so don't is the wrong word, because it implies they can do it but they won't.
Can't implies they litterally cannot do it not matter how they try.
The fact that momo was able to come up with that is bullshit imo.
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Love you too Chess <3In post 586, checkersman7 wrote:also lmfao Elli called it in signups thread Alisae
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Go read the bottom of page 5 imo if you want clearification on gender, I don't go by he pronouns anymore.In post 593, momo wrote:Oh my god Alisae, I was reading your GTKAS to help me get a read on you and I just realized you were a guy. I always thought you were a girl due to your avatar and kept on calling you she. Sorry man...totally my bad.
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