Surreptitious II: Secrets and Misdirection

[Bulbazak]

I know enough of you M to know what you're doing. It's not helping my read of you.

[momo]

I know enough of you M to know what you're doing. It's not helping my read of you.

Am I M or is it Mikan. I didn't think you were scumreading me...are you?

[Bulbazak]

M is Mikan. She's adopting a tactic of Chess's to make sure I stay off her back.

[Mikan Tsumiki]

Nah Bulba you're just intertaining to tease <3

[Mikan Tsumiki]

entertaining*
fuck

[Mikan Tsumiki]

(Also I kinda think a bit low of mafiascum in general but that's a different story)

[Transcend]

I think WhyMafia is scum

[momo]

Oh come on Alisae, the alt was obvious. I knew it as soon as you started scumreading me.

I do not care
it is still rude.
And tbh you were far more likely to be told imo.

Yeah no...its simple. Who on this site actively hates me to the point that they would scumread me for anything. One person....Alisae

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None of you know me irl but let me tell you something, if there is one thing I am good at, it's reading people. In life, when judging someone who you suspect is trying to manipulate you [or an audience] timing is everything. The timing and the content of Snarky's posts suggests scum. See, the timing [and the carefully controlled degree of minimal content] would be a perfect scum play at this point, especially for someone known to lurk early game. It would seem normal while alleviating pressure and turning it against another crowd.

lol shut the fuck up this is complete bullshit and you know it.

I am going to ask that you mind your tounge and act with a bit more taste. If you want to argue in a matter befitting that of a friendly game go ahead and remember that this is a game of wit. Just cursing at me and calling my reasoning bull is not how I would expect somebody to play in a game. Instead of just tunneling me in whatever game we end up in together, at least read what I say. And honestly, I thought you were above letting grudges impact play. I think that you are taking the chance to lynch me because you know that people are always willing to lynch me to help further your scum wincon.
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Oh and Alisae, next time you make an alt, do remember that a new account won't have any grudges going into their first game.

Um
you're scum?
I don't see the problem.

I have done nothing indicative of scum. The two post argument is weak and likely derive from a.) tunneling or b.) scum trying to lynch a known lynchbait player. Maybe even a combination of both. Drop this argument while you can. Frankly, it's embarrassing.
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This is a semantics argument, and it is bad.

Okay
so I understand lolbulba
but there's a difference
Town does some stupid shit so don't is the wrong word, because it implies they can do it but they won't.
Can't implies they litterally cannot do it not matter how they try.
The fact that momo was able to come up with that is bullshit imo.

I am once again going to ask you to mind your tounge and actually use your intelligence (no matter how meager it is) to come up with a comback based upon facts...How I was able to do it...well I read in between the lines from a different perspective than what scum would be expecting. On a normal basis, one reads, does this feel scum. I read, what would be the motivation behind scum posting at this time...with this content. How does it create a townread. And then I think over the situation, the relation to player meta, and then I come with a scum read.
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also lmfao Elli called it in signups thread Alisae

Love you too Chess <3

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Oh my god Alisae, I was reading your GTKAS to help me get a read on you and I just realized you were a guy. I always thought you were a girl due to your avatar and kept on calling you she. Sorry man...totally my bad.

Go read the bottom of page 5 imo if you want clearification on gender, I don't go by he pronouns anymore.
and why the fuck does it even matter?

Again with the profanity. I didn't mean to be offensive. Its just that all the guys I am friends with [myself included] would be pretty offended if I called them she/a girl.

[Transcend]

Sup momo

[Mikan Tsumiki]

Hate is a strong word. I don't hate anyone except for like one person rl.
I read your posts as scum and you are probably scum.
You're not addressing my concerns, you're saying "Oh this person has a grudge" and being a victim

like
fuck off with that

Address my concerns

[momo]

I think WhyMafia is scum

I put him on my townread list because out of the players I remember, he seems less scummy compared to others. If you do go back to post 589, I did however mention that I would like to see WhyMafia post more. D1 this is not a big deal so he gets a bare town read instead of a scum read. That said, if I included the category want to wait before giving a read/null that would prob be a better fit. I think it's good that you have expressed you opinion so that it comes in discussion but also that there are clearer town/scum prospects to think about.

From here I see one of three things happening

1.) Why actually hunting scum and being town

2.) Why doing misleading scum hunting to manipulate town and ends up as cunning scum

3.) Why pulls a lurker scum, in the hopes that no content will lead to people looking elsewhere in a 21 player so that he can begin posting when he has a better handle on the game players(their emotions and stances).

[Mikan Tsumiki]

Also
am I lynching you based off a "grudge" or am I scum?
I can't be doing both
pick one.

[momo]

Oh and hey Transcend.

Alisae, give me a list of actual concerns (besides that two post read nonsense) and then I will answer them.

Edit: Alisae, I am not entirely sure at this point. I would say that I am leaning the scum option based on the whole trying to lynch lynchbait thing.

[Mikan Tsumiki]

I have been

stance on two posts is indicative of you being a scumfuck and is not nonsense.

[WhyMafia]

I think WhyMafia is scum

But I'm not! Regarding me not posting much: I'm just confused by the Bulba/Chess/LUV thing and all this setup discussion and I'm little busy irl this week

[Mikan Tsumiki]

No one was talking about you not posting.

[WhyMafia]

I think WhyMafia is scum

I put him on my townread list because out of the players I remember, he seems less scummy compared to others. If you do go back to post 589, I did however mention that I would like to see WhyMafia post more. D1 this is not a big deal so he gets a bare town read instead of a scum read. That said, if I included the category want to wait before giving a read/null that would prob be a better fit. I think it's good that you have expressed you opinion so that it comes in discussion but also that there are clearer town/scum prospects to think about.

From here I see one of three things happening

1.) Why actually hunting scum and being town

2.) Why doing misleading scum hunting to manipulate town and ends up as cunning scum

3.) Why pulls a lurker scum, in the hopes that no content will lead to people looking elsewhere in a 21 player so that he can begin posting when he has a better handle on the game players(their emotions and stances).

Ok this is extremely scummy to me
Your post is filled with nothing
Your three points are literally all that it could be anyway???? The first part seems to have ulterior motives as well

[WhyMafia]

No one was talking about you not posting.

Momo was

[Mikan Tsumiki]

No one was talking about you not posting.

Momo was

What does that have to do with Tran's read on you

[WhyMafia]

No one was talking about you not posting.

Momo was

What does that have to do with Tran's read on you

I was responding to momo's comment and giving an explanation?

[Mikan Tsumiki]

Eh I coulda been confused by how you formatted it
Thought you were talking to trans

[momo]

No one was talking about you not posting.

Momo was

It's not that you are not posting it's just that there is no active scum hunting. Note that I still put you on as a tr because I understand the confusions of D1 and that sometimes it's hard to get in the play.

As to me posting the only 3 possibilities, I don't really care what you think about that. When town, I play as unfiltered as I can, meaning that I may say obvious things not because I want to make a contentless post but because that is what I was thinking while I wrote the post. I invite you to read into me further if you wish. My only request is that you don't get stuck in a tunnel.

[WhyMafia]

Eh I coulda been confused by how you formatted it
Thought you were talking to trans

Ah, in hindsight I see why you thought that. Only the first sentence referred to transcend

[WhyMafia]

No one was talking about you not posting.

Momo was

It's not that you are not posting it's just that there is no active scum hunting. Note that I still put you on as a tr because I understand the confusions of D1 and that sometimes it's hard to get in the play.

As to me posting the only 3 possibilities, I don't really care what you think about that. When town, I play as unfiltered as I can, meaning that I may say obvious things not because I want to make a contentless post but because that is what I was thinking while I wrote the post. I invite you to read into me further if you wish. My only request is that you don't get stuck in a tunnel.

Hm. Will take your word for now, but I got my eye on you ....

[momo]

Considering bring group C to L-2...what do y'all think. Checker, Desperado, and Alisae are all in that group. Good feeling that 2 of them are scum...The narrowed down situation while still keep a few options seems good to be. Yet is this too hasty. Should I do it? What do y'all think?