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Post Post #4875 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:21 pm

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In post 4573, Cheeky Dancer wrote:
null: GE/EJ/Koki
sr: drewva, mcqueen, ss, theta/una , karm/creat , n&m , SS


That's my lynch pool so far. Also, been getting a lingering weird feeling about pp because his reads have looked very...in sync with mine in most of the game (LAMIST attempt??)


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Post Post #4876 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:24 pm

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In post 4577, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 4570, Cheeky Dancer wrote:So, now I'm wondering if there is at least 1 scum between nero/thanos/GE due to how they were playing
:facepalm: :igmeou: :?
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Post Post #4877 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:24 pm

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In post 4573, Cheeky Dancer wrote:
null: GE/EJ/Koki
sr: drewva, mcqueen, ss, theta/una , karm/creat , n&m , SS


That's my lynch pool so far. Also, been getting a lingering weird feeling about pp because his reads have looked very...in sync with mine in most of the game (LAMIST attempt??)


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You’re double sr SS?
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Post Post #4878 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:27 pm

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In post 4594, the worst wrote:
In post 4571, PenguinPower wrote:No worries, Duck. I don’t see anything you post.
I see nutting.
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Post Post #4879 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:30 pm

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In post 4598, Cheeky Dancer wrote:
In post 4590, Nero Cain wrote:We aren't. I was kidding about ending the day and that unoriginal hack tried to get in on my joke.
:)

How is Memphis?

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Spoiler:
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Post Post #4880 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:42 pm

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In post 4600, Cheeky Dancer wrote:
In post 4597, profii wrote:So my question to you is - as a short summary what makes your N&M case more probable to catch scum, compared to your second case ?
Going off what I've seen itt & from interactions with n&m. Also, I know who the hydra is & the way they spoke about alonzo & ej is way suspicious.

With GE it's more null - though I dont trust null slots. His slot traditionally, has been hard to read overall (not like in RC's themed large though).

I still want to see what else others have to say like una/tlk/koki and anyone else who has been missing.
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In post 4592, Nero Cain wrote:though I guess Performers might count since it was bold unless it doesn't count b/c he didn't bold vote.
I didnt add a vote tag it though... so it shouldn't count...

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Post Post #4881 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:44 pm

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In post 4605, The Last Knight wrote:
In post 4492, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 4486, The Last Knight wrote:This is a sad day for town...
Why?


Are you still looking to get lynched?
Well, it's a sad day because we mislynched.

I'm still down to be lynched but it doesn't really help that much at this point unless we have someone we want to have hammer me. But then we should just lynch them instead. If anything, keeping me alive just gives us security during the night.
How does that give us security?
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Post Post #4882 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:45 pm

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I've played with Kokichi town but it was a rep into a lethargic game.

In SSBU Kokichi was lurky as scum but more involved...if that makes sense. Present enough to know what's going on but not draw attention. Active early that game though iirc.
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Post Post #4883 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:46 pm

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In post 4606, Nev and Max wrote:So the question is are you allowed to post direct quotes from the Boonus Rounds?

Second was that post from CT or Perfomer?

Third I love how you left an important part out. Which is funny because I discussed how the neighborize role in addition to some other things.

Perfomer I know you have never seen me personally in a hydra before nor has CT. But I don’t like hydras discussing in a chat reads until they are solid. I know that FF wanted to vote creature, but I had told him no because I felt like creature was town. I also have a bunch of little town reads personally here and there, but nothing like super super strong. I had one which was NC, creature and Profi.

I have history myself with Alonzo. He’s hard for me to read and he has pushed me in games with really shitty logic which I wasn’t feeling this game, but then it’s differnt because I’m still a ~secret~ head.*

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Post Post #4884 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:47 pm

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In post 4607, The Last Knight wrote:
In post 4504, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 4502, davesaz wrote:
In post 4493, BrightEyedFish wrote:
In post 4490, Nero Cain wrote:Aren't we not supposed to be outting winners though?
I think it's a good idea to know how the day reps are chosen.
I think it's a massive wifom and not worth any more posts.
It could block scum from using their nominations so I don't see a problem with it.

The most you gain from knowing the winners is the possible modifier they gain.
I think it would help to know BOONus round winners so we can at least attempt to figure out the day rep theory. We need a bigger sample size. I still haven't been involved in a BOONus round too, so it helps me know what's going on. But I won't press much if people don't feel like sharing.
I thought 3/4 day reps were BOONus winners?
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Post Post #4885 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:49 pm

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In post 4884, DrewVa wrote:
In post 4607, The Last Knight wrote:
In post 4504, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 4502, davesaz wrote:
In post 4493, BrightEyedFish wrote:
In post 4490, Nero Cain wrote:Aren't we not supposed to be outting winners though?
I think it's a good idea to know how the day reps are chosen.
I think it's a massive wifom and not worth any more posts.
It could block scum from using their nominations so I don't see a problem with it.

The most you gain from knowing the winners is the possible modifier they gain.
I think it would help to know BOONus round winners so we can at least attempt to figure out the day rep theory. We need a bigger sample size. I still haven't been involved in a BOONus round too, so it helps me know what's going on. But I won't press much if people don't feel like sharing.
I thought 3/4 day reps were BOONus winners?
1/3 are right now. Not sure if Nero won last night.
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Post Post #4886 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:49 pm

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In post 4610, The Last Knight wrote:
In post 4511, profii wrote:nero played a game yesterday and is a day rep today

precedent is given to players who havent played the night game according to day rules.

we mislynched someone on the assumption scum inserted someone into day reps...



like i know nero has a lot of town reads but is anyone worried by that?
Good thought process here. I want to keep note of this.
Why should we be worried about that?
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Post Post #4887 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:51 pm

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In post 4614, The Last Knight wrote:
In post 4527, davesaz wrote:
In post 4511, profii wrote:nero played a game yesterday and is a day rep today

precedent is given to players who havent played the night game according to day rules.

we mislynched someone on the assumption scum inserted someone into day reps...



like i know nero has a lot of town reads but is anyone worried by that?
This is interesting but a couple points.
Precedence for day rep is someone who hasn't been one, and presumably night games also give precedence for someone who hasn't been in one.
We don't know if there is a connection between the two. Boon made a vague statement about it becoming more apparent and a bunch of people are doing olympic-sized conclusion jumping as a result. Nobody has acknowledged that in an all blue compromise everyone is a winner, which for 3 games could produce 9 winners at the extreme end of the RNG. If winners outnumber dayrep slots (all you need is a 2:1 ration in 2 games and 1 winner in the 3rd) there will be some winners who aren't dayreps. It's also possible for all 3 players in a game to lose, and produce no winners. Mathematically it means you can't predict how many dayreps are game winners. And it will get worse in the game when the night games produce too few winners...

We don't know if scum's ability to choose is limited to one of their own, or if they could pick anyone.

All the dayrep stuff is noise. Let's just scumhunt.
Okay so I want to highlight this post now because I have the opposite reaction. Because we will have limited resources later, we should try to figure out how the reps are chosen now. It may seem like a waste of time but it is certainly something that can get done in the two weeks time we have. IMHO, figuring out how reps are chosen is a step in scum hunting.
3 out of 4 are the previous night’s BOONus winners, don’t know anout the 4th.
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Post Post #4888 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:52 pm

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In post 4619, Thanos wrote:Sure was a lot of players on ram. Thought we agreed to wait for more info on the day rep thing. Definitely more than one scum on that wagon.

Lamees
Yeah, I thought the votes were a lot closer between wagons.
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Post Post #4889 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:52 pm

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In post 4886, DrewVa wrote:
In post 4610, The Last Knight wrote:
In post 4511, profii wrote:nero played a game yesterday and is a day rep today

precedent is given to players who havent played the night game according to day rules.

we mislynched someone on the assumption scum inserted someone into day reps...



like i know nero has a lot of town reads but is anyone worried by that?
Good thought process here. I want to keep note of this.
Why should we be worried about that?
This gave me pause when I realized Nero had been in 2 games because I had a theory that 3 scum couldn't occupy 1 room and that randomization pushed 3 together. Someone would have been forced out to compensate but it was a theory.

But now I think everyone has been involved in a boonus round and Nero was the first overlap.
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Post Post #4890 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:54 pm

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In post 4623, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 4616, PenguinPower wrote:Did you enjoy my gift?
In post 4624, PenguinPower wrote:*sigh*
TLK, DID YOU ENJOY PENGUIN’S GIFT?


YW. :)
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Post Post #4891 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:55 pm

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In post 4889, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 4886, DrewVa wrote:
In post 4610, The Last Knight wrote:
In post 4511, profii wrote:nero played a game yesterday and is a day rep today

precedent is given to players who havent played the night game according to day rules.

we mislynched someone on the assumption scum inserted someone into day reps...



like i know nero has a lot of town reads but is anyone worried by that?
Good thought process here. I want to keep note of this.
Why should we be worried about that?
This gave me pause when I realized Nero had been in 2 games because I had a theory that 3 scum couldn't occupy 1 room and that randomization pushed 3 together. Someone would have been forced out to compensate but it was a theory.

But now I think everyone has been involved in a boonus round and Nero was the first overlap.
Pretty sure TLK said he still hasn't (correct me if I'm wrong)

out of 22 players the first night: 9 were chosen (9/22), both AC and Alonzo were in a room, so out of 18, 9 more players were chosen (18/20), even if Nero hadn't been picked twice, 2 people still wouldn't have participated. With Nero's double-up, at least 3 players haven't
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Post Post #4892 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:56 pm

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In post 4890, DrewVa wrote:
In post 4623, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 4616, PenguinPower wrote:Did you enjoy my gift?
In post 4624, PenguinPower wrote:*sigh*
TLK, DID YOU ENJOY PENGUIN’S GIFT?


YW. :)
What is the YW in reference to?
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Post Post #4893 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 10:58 pm

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In post 4635, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 4634, The Last Knight wrote:If that wasn't you, I didn't get any other notifications in my confessional other than receiving a sticky fruit.
At night, you will give your target a "Sticky Fruit". They will be informed that they have received a Sticky Fruit, but not who they received it from, nor what it does. They will only be informed that they may pass it along the following night. Any player given a Sticky Fruit will be immune to all actions, EXCEPT for killing actions, the night they receive the fruit.
Is there a fruit that makes you immune from killing actions and nothing else, because we would love some of that. :lol:
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Post Post #4894 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:00 pm

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In post 4640, PenguinPower wrote:No. If you make someone loyal, only their actions are governed by the loyal modifier. Profii made TLK loyal one night, then sent him the sticky fruit the next night.
In post 4641, PenguinPower wrote:All while scumreading and pushing him...which is why I asked my question.
I’m confused by this?

I mean wrt Profil and TLK.
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Post Post #4895 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:02 pm

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In post 4650, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 4649, mcqueen wrote:Ok who passed the fruit to TLK last night?

If profii did, how do you know about it PP?

If PP did, how did you pass it to TLK when profii said he passed it last night
I gave something to TLK (I'm not going to say what). TLK received Sticky fruit (which appears to be from profii given in game statements). Receiving Sticky Fruit effectively gives TLK a rolestop which means my gifting failed.

This is why I want to know why profii gave TLK a rolestop since profii scum read him.
Because sticky fruit makes you asetic?
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Post Post #4896 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:03 pm

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Question: Does the charge transfer prize only allow you to transfer charges, or abilities too? For example, let's say Player A was a 1-shot Vig. If they won and chose the charge transfer, is only the charge transferred to Player B, effectively making Player A a 0-shot Vig and Player B an X+1-shot whatever, or does Player B get a 1-shot Vig ability?
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Post Post #4897 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:04 pm

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Just the charges on your ability not the ability itself afaik.
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Post Post #4898 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:06 pm

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dI just PMed Boon about it. I'll wait and see what he says.
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Post Post #4899 (ISO) » Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:07 pm

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In post 4683, Nev and Max wrote:
In post 4656, Kokichi Oma wrote:if im being honest, i have read maybe 2 pages out of 187
Watch out for Perf, he gonna be on you something fierce real soon.
Performer? I thought it was Cheeky who’d been posting?
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