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Post Post #425 (ISO) » Sat Dec 15, 2018 10:07 pm

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In post 422, Ramcius wrote:i don't like this. Assumption on scum having pre game chat and votes in main thread do nothing, so why scum wouldn't make them in RVS stage?
Having no votes in the main thread is a mechanic I think scum would be aware of.
Scum *could* make a vote nonetheless, but read her posts after that - it's clear she didn't know that votes weren't counted on the main thread.
Of course, it's possible she could be faking it, but I think it's likelier she's town.

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Post Post #426 (ISO) » Sat Dec 15, 2018 10:10 pm

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In post 422, Ramcius wrote:
In post 415, Thanos wrote:
In post 30, DrewVa wrote:VOTE: Emperors New Groove
From a scum POV, not voting in the main thread is probably an important mechanic they would've discussed if they had pre-game chat. This looks like a townslip, DrewVa is likely town.
i don't like this. Assumption on scum having pre game chat and votes in main thread do nothing, so why scum wouldn't make them in RVS stage?
What part don’t you like - the townread on us, or you dislike this post?

But it is mentioned in the setup, so the read should be more nuanced, like could they tell, if we made the “townslip” by play or is the townread solely based on just mechanics?
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Post Post #427 (ISO) » Sat Dec 15, 2018 10:11 pm

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In post 424, Cheeky Dancer wrote:DrewVa why aren't you voting or pushing us if we're your only "normalscum" read?

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I’ll let DVa answer that.

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Post Post #428 (ISO) » Sat Dec 15, 2018 10:13 pm

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Please do and while Dva is at it:
In post 405, DrewVa wrote:Potential normalscum
Cheeky Dancer (CheekyTeeky/Performer) -- refusing the masonblock has me very concerned actually LOL
1. How is this AI?
2. What do you make of the two heads of our hydra having different reactions to this?
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Post Post #429 (ISO) » Sat Dec 15, 2018 10:13 pm

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In post 426, DrewVa wrote:But it is mentioned in the setup, so the read should be more nuanced, like could they tell, if we made the “townslip” by play or is the townread solely based on just mechanics?
It's mentioned in the setup and yet DVa didn't know that.
It's likelier for town in this scenario not to have read the setup properly and not know that public votes aren't counted.
It's less likely for scum to not know, IMO -- Making your slot likely town.

This is an early read, subject to change if there's stronger evidence.

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Post Post #430 (ISO) » Sat Dec 15, 2018 10:16 pm

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In post 429, Thanos wrote:
In post 426, DrewVa wrote:But it is mentioned in the setup, so the read should be more nuanced, like could they tell, if we made the “townslip” by play or is the townread solely based on just mechanics?
It's mentioned in the setup and yet DVa didn't know that.
It's likelier for town in this scenario not to have read the setup properly and not know that public votes aren't counted.
It's less likely for scum to not know, IMO -- Making your slot likely town.

This is an early read, subject to change if there's stronger evidence.

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Your assumption that not reading the game post is towny is unfounded.

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Post Post #431 (ISO) » Sat Dec 15, 2018 10:16 pm

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In post 428, Cheeky Dancer wrote:Please do and while Dva is at it:
In post 405, DrewVa wrote:Potential normalscum
Cheeky Dancer (CheekyTeeky/Performer) -- refusing the masonblock has me very concerned actually LOL
1. How is this AI?
2. What do you make of the two heads of our hydra having different reactions to this?
1. I let her know.

2. What was your reaction? DVa was specifically concerned with Performer’s.
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Post Post #432 (ISO) » Sat Dec 15, 2018 10:18 pm

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In post 431, DrewVa wrote:
In post 428, Cheeky Dancer wrote:Please do and while Dva is at it:
In post 405, DrewVa wrote:Potential normalscum
Cheeky Dancer (CheekyTeeky/Performer) -- refusing the masonblock has me very concerned actually LOL
1. How is this AI?
2. What do you make of the two heads of our hydra having different reactions to this?
1. I let her know.

2. What was your reaction? DVa was specifically concerned with Performer’s.
I let it slide and didn't mention it. I did think about saying something but didn't see the point. Performer and I don't really talk in our PT at present but that could change as the game gets more serious.

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Post Post #433 (ISO) » Sat Dec 15, 2018 10:20 pm

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BTW Nacy, why were u town reading RCE?
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #434 (ISO) » Sat Dec 15, 2018 10:20 pm

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In post 424, Cheeky Dancer wrote:DrewVa why aren't you voting or pushing us if we're your only "normalscum" read?

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It's mathematically certain there is town in the lurkerscum pool so for the moment I'm more interested in figuring out where I am wrong on the slots where I basically have to be wrong. -D
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Post Post #435 (ISO) » Sat Dec 15, 2018 10:25 pm

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In post 434, DrewVa wrote:
In post 424, Cheeky Dancer wrote:DrewVa why aren't you voting or pushing us if we're your only "normalscum" read?

~ C

It's mathematically certain there is town in the lurkerscum pool so for the moment I'm more interested in figuring out where I am wrong on the slots where I basically have to be wrong. -D
Mathematically certain = Probability. I get that but don't really see how you're sorting anyone. It's like labels for label sake. I'm more concerned with a scumread on my slot that has posted barely anything AI, over those with content. Are your reads activity based? Because that's pretty bs.
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Post Post #436 (ISO) » Sat Dec 15, 2018 10:26 pm

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In post 405, DrewVa wrote:Alonzo -- wouldn't he have shitposted more by now as town?
Something_Smart -- does something_smart not like rolling scum?
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Post Post #437 (ISO) » Sat Dec 15, 2018 10:26 pm

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In post 435, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 434, DrewVa wrote:
In post 424, Cheeky Dancer wrote:DrewVa why aren't you voting or pushing us if we're your only "normalscum" read?

~ C

It's mathematically certain there is town in the lurkerscum pool so for the moment I'm more interested in figuring out where I am wrong on the slots where I basically have to be wrong. -D
Mathematically certain = Probability. I get that but don't really see how you're sorting anyone. It's like labels for label sake. I'm more concerned with a scumread on my slot that has posted barely anything AI, over those with content. Are your reads activity based? Because that's pretty bs.
Ugh I was doing so well.

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Post Post #438 (ISO) » Sat Dec 15, 2018 10:27 pm

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In post 430, Cheeky Dancer wrote:Your assumption that not reading the game post is towny is unfounded.
It's a bit more nuanced than that.
Not reading the game post isn't inherently towny, I agree.
Scum would have more likely been aware of some of the important mechanics, private votes being one.
Therefore if a slot wasn't aware of that mechanic, it's
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town than scum.
And at an early stage, fine to toss into a town pool.
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Post Post #439 (ISO) » Sat Dec 15, 2018 10:31 pm

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Cheeky is ignoring my question like she normally does as scum. This game is EZ mode.
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #440 (ISO) » Sat Dec 15, 2018 10:32 pm

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In post 438, Thanos wrote:
In post 430, Cheeky Dancer wrote:Your assumption that not reading the game post is towny is unfounded.
It's a bit more nuanced than that.
Not reading the game post isn't inherently towny, I agree.
Scum would have more likely been aware of some of the important mechanics, private votes being one.
Therefore if a slot wasn't aware of that mechanic, it's
likelier
town than scum.
And at an early stage, fine to toss into a town pool.
Yeah I still don't agree. I'm oblivious as either alignment. I would think it was towny reasoning if they didn't have a myriad of posts and therefore other points you could have sorted them as town for.

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Post Post #441 (ISO) » Sat Dec 15, 2018 10:33 pm

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In post 413, Nero Cain wrote:how is that scummy at all?
Exactly.

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Post Post #442 (ISO) » Sat Dec 15, 2018 10:33 pm

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In post 421, Nero Cain wrote:So ok, I fake daykilled him b/c I was annoyed at him and Else trolling and bloating this thread. That alone is antitown/scummy but then I felt like RCE's threat/promise to ignore me was scummy. Like I can't go into details b/c both our games are ongoing but I have an excellent track record of reading him and I could see scum RCE intentionally not wanting to be in an argument with me.
1.) You only think you have an excellent track record. I'll leave it at that.

2.) You have a style thing I don't mesh with and I don't want to humor it day 1 for my, your, and everyone else's enjoyment in this game.

If it has to be addressed at a later day then fine. If you can kill me in the night just kill me in the night.
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Post Post #443 (ISO) » Sat Dec 15, 2018 10:34 pm

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In post 439, Nero Cain wrote:Cheeky is ignoring my question like she normally does as scum. This game is EZ mode.
Next time don't bury your question in a scummy catch up wall.

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Post Post #444 (ISO) » Sat Dec 15, 2018 10:34 pm

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In post 426, DrewVa wrote:
In post 422, Ramcius wrote:
In post 415, Thanos wrote:
In post 30, DrewVa wrote:VOTE: Emperors New Groove
From a scum POV, not voting in the main thread is probably an important mechanic they would've discussed if they had pre-game chat. This looks like a townslip, DrewVa is likely town.
i don't like this. Assumption on scum having pre game chat and votes in main thread do nothing, so why scum wouldn't make them in RVS stage?
What part don’t you like - the townread on us, or you dislike this post?

But it is mentioned in the setup, so the read should be more nuanced, like could they tell, if we made the “townslip” by play or is the townread solely based on just mechanics?
I don't like how he jumped to conclusion from purely speculations on what scum might had and what they might talked.
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Post Post #445 (ISO) » Sat Dec 15, 2018 10:35 pm

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Why was it scummy, or are you just attaching the word scummy to everything I say and hope that it sticks?
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #446 (ISO) » Sat Dec 15, 2018 10:37 pm

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In post 445, Nero Cain wrote:Why was it scummy, or are you just attaching the word scummy to everything I say and hope that it sticks?
Because RCE had literally done nothing scummy. Funny that's what I thought you were doing.

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Post Post #447 (ISO) » Sat Dec 15, 2018 10:39 pm

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Let's tango Nero. Tell me your read on RCE.

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Post Post #448 (ISO) » Sat Dec 15, 2018 10:39 pm

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In post 446, Cheeky Dancer wrote:Because RCE had literally done nothing scummy.
Why do I have to think the same things as you?
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Post Post #449 (ISO) » Sat Dec 15, 2018 10:39 pm

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In post 440, Cheeky Dancer wrote:Yeah I still don't agree. I'm oblivious as either alignment. I would think it was towny reasoning if they didn't have a myriad of posts and therefore other points you could have sorted them as town for.
Sure, *you* may be oblivious as either alignment -- that doesn't mean it's false that scum would likelier be aware of such a mechanic.
Feel free to disagree with me here, but I'm still sticking by it.
That slot usually has a lot of posts which I don't find AI.
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