If we somehow wind up with an entirely shocking lynch, we’ll know that someone - most likely scum. has obviously been lying with their votes.In post 1296, The Last Knight wrote:I took a template and copied it, to be honest, and your name was right there at the top. I did think about taking your vote off but it also seemed like an obvious enough joke. I figured I could leave it there and change it later if/when you decided to go public. Just a sillier unknown.In post 1282, Something_Smart wrote:TLK. I have a question. I made that self-vote very early on as self-admittedly half a joke egopost and the other half a reaction test. I also said that I understand that's not how real votes were placed. When you put your votecounts together, why did you not even ask if I had actually voted myself in my confessional before writing my vote there?
I want to address the last sentence specifically though, because I don't think these VC are necessarily confessional votes. But if someone did vote here and was contradicted later, it gives some nice info on D2.
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That I and others are wrong, at best. Your posting seems hollow and I don't remember any scumhunting from you. Of course, I'll ISO to confirm but I'm ok with putting my vote on you for now.In post 1128, Ramcius wrote:And what my townflip gives you?
Does anyone want to get hipshot? I'm just pointing out that I don't think she ever scum read me until I called her scum/would be ok with her lynch.In post 1148, Gamma Emerald wrote:
Afraid of getting hip fired again?In post 1103, Nero Cain wrote:much OMGUSOf all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Someone is going to have to explain the Drewva and TLK hate. I asked Elsa earlier but they ignored me.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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We’re hated? I thought that was just Alonzo. Can someone tell me, why he’s town here? Like, I understand he has this troll meta but I don’t necessarily see why that should be an excuse to townread him here.In post 1303, Nero Cain wrote:Someone is going to have to explain the Drewva and TLK hate. I asked Elsa earlier but they ignored me.- Ramcius
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I will say one last time - i didn't called TLK scum for counterwagon, i was asked about him, I said I disliked his early pushed and that I dislike how I become his counterwagon from nowhere, I didn't voted him either, so I appreciate, if people stop spreading this false info about me trying lynch TLK or calling him scum for being his counterwagonIn post 1299, DrewVa wrote: Okay, fair enough. I didn’t take that into account. However, for native English speakers, what I said, has been demonstrated to be correct. more often than not.
I honestly don’t understand. either yours or Alonzo’s pushes this game. And you accusing Karmelon of scumslipping, when I didn’t believe he had. you’re agressive response to RCE from what read to me as an entirely NAI statement. But perhas, I misunderstood why your scumread on TLK would be affected by him being the counterwagon. It didn’t make any sense to me at the time but I should have asked you to explain your reasoning for it, rather then just assume.
Also, I have very aggressive playstyle and my comment to RCE was quite peaceful, Gamma and Nero can vouch that i can be really aggressive and pushy, that's NAI thing to me
So tell me, how you trust TLK so easily, when you were torn between voting him and me, also, I want remind that I literally told you to keep your vote on me, when you was considering jump on his wagon again
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oh! now I have a good idea for a mafia roleOf all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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I don't think you are hated, I just like Dave and Ram scum reading you and I guess Alonzo?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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i don't see any indication of town. he's either playing in a anti-town way or scum openly pushing a scum agendaIn post 1304, DrewVa wrote:
We’re hated? I thought that was just Alonzo. Can someone tell me, why he’s town here? Like, I understand he has this troll meta but I don’t necessarily see why that should be an excuse to townread him here.In post 1303, Nero Cain wrote:Someone is going to have to explain the Drewva and TLK hate. I asked Elsa earlier but they ignored me.Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
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Is Elsa the he here b/c Nancy is a girl, guy.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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I am not scum here. Some of my reads may be possibly wrong but that doesn’t make me scum.In post 1273, Ramcius wrote:
I think he's scum and his buddies DrewVa and Gamma are trying save his sorry ass, is that enough?In post 1272, Elsa Jay wrote:How do you know you aren't the dead weight here then?
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In post 1307, Ramcius wrote:Alonzo isn't town, but there's no reason to scumread him eitherOf all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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In post 1305, Ramcius wrote:
I will say one last time - i didn't called TLK scum for counterwagon, i was asked about him, I said I disliked his early pushed and that I dislike how I become his counterwagon from nowhere, I didn't voted him either, so I appreciate, if people stop spreading this false info about me trying lynch TLK or calling him scum for being his counterwagonIn post 1299, DrewVa wrote: Okay, fair enough. I didn’t take that into account. However, for native English speakers, what I said, has been demonstrated to be correct. more often than not.
I honestly don’t understand. either yours or Alonzo’s pushes this game. And you accusing Karmelon of scumslipping, when I didn’t believe he had. you’re agressive response to RCE from what read to me as an entirely NAI statement. But perhas, I misunderstood why your scumread on TLK would be affected by him being the counterwagon. It didn’t make any sense to me at the time but I should have asked you to explain your reasoning for it, rather then just assume.
Also, I have very aggressive playstyle and my comment to RCE was quite peaceful, Gamma and Nero can vouch that i can be really aggressive and pushy, that's NAI thing to me
So tell me, how you trust TLK so easily, when you were torn between voting him and me, also, I want remind that I literally told you to keep your vote on me, when you was considering jump on his wagon again
Lastly, your opinion on Gamma? He says he have no confidence in reading me anymore (never saw my scumplay), yet comes with really weak reason to vote meIn post 1127, Ramcius wrote:Yes, i don't like, when people make conclusion purely from speculations without any basis, why that's wrong?
What i contradict? That my playstyle wasn't my usual town at that time? I guess you know better my townplay than I
Cheeky wasn't talking to me, so i had to ask. But i was speaking with Elsa way before that, how that's a contradiction?
I don't even comment on RCE quote
I have no clue what are you talking, only PL i wanted was Elsa, not you, i never expressed intend to vote you, what PL we even talking? Also, have you seen me trying PL someone as a scum to say it was a lie?
Only thing that i said was that i dislike how people suddenly got interested in me, when your wagon grew, i. e. i'm becoming your counterwagon
I’m legit confused now. Either I am correctly reading you or we have a REAL misunderstanding in our communication styles?In post 1047, Ramcius wrote:
He already voted to end day, so he have no more powerIn post 1046, DrewVa wrote:
Okay, something we actually do agree on.In post 1045, Ramcius wrote:Alonzo is a troll, i stopped pay attention to him long ago
Him having the power to end the day, is concerning though.
What’s you read on TLK?
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That makes absolutely no sense.In post 1307, Ramcius wrote:Alonzo isn't town, but there's no reason to scumread him either- DrewVa
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Dave was? I must have missed it. I’m starting to question my read on Ram. I think Alonzo is scummier.In post 1308, Nero Cain wrote:I don't think you are hated, I just like Dave and Ram scum reading you and I guess Alonzo?- DrewVa
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Agreed. He wanted to lynch me for giving him an FOS for his extremely suspicious end the day vote.In post 1309, Xtoxm wrote:
i don't see any indication of town. he's either playing in a anti-town way or scum openly pushing a scum agendaIn post 1304, DrewVa wrote:
We’re hated? I thought that was just Alonzo. Can someone tell me, why he’s town here? Like, I understand he has this troll meta but I don’t necessarily see why that should be an excuse to townread him here.In post 1303, Nero Cain wrote:Someone is going to have to explain the Drewva and TLK hate. I asked Elsa earlier but they ignored me.
I think I feel better about this vote. for now.
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And? I mean bolded part. TLK wagon came first, then people decided take stab at me, you think it's natural? TLK wasn't my top scumread, so I didn't jumped on him screaming "Scum!!!!"In post 1314, DrewVa wrote:In post 1305, Ramcius wrote:
I will say one last time - i didn't called TLK scum for counterwagon, i was asked about him, I said I disliked his early pushed and that I dislike how I become his counterwagon from nowhere, I didn't voted him either, so I appreciate, if people stop spreading this false info about me trying lynch TLK or calling him scum for being his counterwagonIn post 1299, DrewVa wrote: Okay, fair enough. I didn’t take that into account. However, for native English speakers, what I said, has been demonstrated to be correct. more often than not.
I honestly don’t understand. either yours or Alonzo’s pushes this game. And you accusing Karmelon of scumslipping, when I didn’t believe he had. you’re agressive response to RCE from what read to me as an entirely NAI statement. But perhas, I misunderstood why your scumread on TLK would be affected by him being the counterwagon. It didn’t make any sense to me at the time but I should have asked you to explain your reasoning for it, rather then just assume.
Also, I have very aggressive playstyle and my comment to RCE was quite peaceful, Gamma and Nero can vouch that i can be really aggressive and pushy, that's NAI thing to me
So tell me, how you trust TLK so easily, when you were torn between voting him and me, also, I want remind that I literally told you to keep your vote on me, when you was considering jump on his wagon again
Lastly, your opinion on Gamma? He says he have no confidence in reading me anymore (never saw my scumplay), yet comes with really weak reason to vote meIn post 1127, Ramcius wrote:Yes, i don't like, when people make conclusion purely from speculations without any basis, why that's wrong?
What i contradict? That my playstyle wasn't my usual town at that time? I guess you know better my townplay than I
Cheeky wasn't talking to me, so i had to ask. But i was speaking with Elsa way before that, how that's a contradiction?
I don't even comment on RCE quote
I have no clue what are you talking, only PL i wanted was Elsa, not you, i never expressed intend to vote you, what PL we even talking? Also, have you seen me trying PL someone as a scum to say it was a lie?
Only thing that i said was that i dislike how people suddenly got interested in me, when your wagon grew, i. e. i'm becoming your counterwagon
I’m legit confused now. Either I am correctly reading you or we have a REAL misunderstanding in our communication styles?In post 1047, Ramcius wrote:
He already voted to end day, so he have no more powerIn post 1046, DrewVa wrote:
Okay, something we actually do agree on.In post 1045, Ramcius wrote:Alonzo is a troll, i stopped pay attention to him long ago
Him having the power to end the day, is concerning though.
What’s you read on TLK?
Disliked before, dislike even more now as i'm becoming his counterwagon
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Oh, I don't think he should have assumed it was a joke. I think he should have asked rather than assuming ANYTHING, because it was meant to cause some confusion about whether it was an actual vote or not.In post 1292, Xtoxm wrote:I'm going to have to wade in here. If your clear use of vote tags should be disregarded as a joke, at what point do you draw the line between assuming a vote is a joke and a vote is real? The most sensible course of action is to take literal votes at face value, and you told us that you're voting yourself. If you don't want that in the artificial VC, go ahead and change it.
I would hardly be right to be voting anyone when I haven't expressed any scumreads worthy of the name. I'll vote if and when I see someone who I actually think is substantially more likely scum than town. That doesn't always happen day 1, and it's even less likely to happen in a game like this. For clarity's sake, the answer right now is nobody.In post 1293, DrewVa wrote:@Something_Smart, who are you voting for, in your ACTUAL confessional?
I won't necessarily say when I vote someone, but if I refrain from doing so I will have a reason for not saying it. Probably that reason will be that I think the person would either clam up under pressure and be harder to read or they would get more wild and desperate and burn all their bridges as town.
Oh, that's interesting. I thought the intent was to create an accurate picture of where people were voting. I know that's what I said I wanted to see (real votes, not mock votes), and I thought you created this in response to what I said.In post 1296, The Last Knight wrote:I took a template and copied it, to be honest, and your name was right there at the top. I did think about taking your vote off but it also seemed like an obvious enough joke. I figured I could leave it there and change it later if/when you decided to go public. Just a sillier unknown.
I want to address the last sentence specifically though, because I don't think these VC are necessarily confessional votes. But if someone did vote here and was contradicted later, it gives some nice info on D2.
You're right that it was always my prerogative to change my vote/alert you that it wasn't accurate. To be honest, I wanted to see if anyone would get the impression that I was ACTUALLY voting myself, and how they'd react to that... but it seems like nobody even mentioned it. I want to keep it on even after we've had this conversation, but at the same time I don't want to foster the idea that these votes are fake or less serious or that it's all right to have a joke vote on this that doesn't correspond to your real vote. So with that in mind:
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In post 1315, DrewVa wrote:
That makes absolutely no sense.In post 1307, Ramcius wrote:Alonzo isn't town, but there's no reason to scumread him either
I recall a post by Boon saying this is singleball and that there’s no SK.In post 1309, Xtoxm wrote:
i don't see any indication of town. he's either playing in a anti-town way or scum openly pushing a scum agendaIn post 1304, DrewVa wrote:
We’re hated? I thought that was just Alonzo. Can someone tell me, why he’s town here? Like, I understand he has this troll meta but I don’t necessarily see why that should be an excuse to townread him here.In post 1303, Nero Cain wrote:Someone is going to have to explain the Drewva and TLK hate. I asked Elsa earlier but they ignored me.
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In post 397, Boonskiies wrote:Technically, SK doesn’t count as being Multiball anywhere on site. However, I advertised the game implying it was Single Ball, and generally if I’m going to straight up confirm it’s not Multiball, I’m not going to put a SK in the game.- DrewVa
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Not town/anti-town cannot ever be 3P in this game.In post 1321, DrewVa wrote:In post 397, Boonskiies wrote:Technically, SK doesn’t count as being Multiball anywhere on site. However, I advertised the game implying it was Single Ball, and generally if I’m going to straight up confirm it’s not Multiball, I’m not going to put a SK in the game.- Ramcius
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I didn't said he's 3p, but that he didn't anything to earn townread/scumread, so he's nullIn post 1320, DrewVa wrote:In post 1315, DrewVa wrote:
That makes absolutely no sense.In post 1307, Ramcius wrote:Alonzo isn't town, but there's no reason to scumread him either
I recall a post by Boon saying this is singleball and that there’s no SK.In post 1309, Xtoxm wrote:
i don't see any indication of town. he's either playing in a anti-town way or scum openly pushing a scum agendaIn post 1304, DrewVa wrote:
We’re hated? I thought that was just Alonzo. Can someone tell me, why he’s town here? Like, I understand he has this troll meta but I don’t necessarily see why that should be an excuse to townread him here.In post 1303, Nero Cain wrote:Someone is going to have to explain the Drewva and TLK hate. I asked Elsa earlier but they ignored me.
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