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Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 6:45 am
by Karmeleon
In post 996, Ramcius wrote:
In post 992, Karmeleon wrote:
In post 990, Ramcius wrote:
In post 983, Karmeleon wrote:
In post 981, Ramcius wrote:I'm your today's lynch and you try mock me like this as if I was town trying ML you?
Parroting "my goal is to lynch scum" while not doing isn't town at all.
And what you doing is considered town?
No speech, just action
But discussion is a way to find scum. Are you afraid to slip more?
Speech: "I'm going to find scum"

Action: Actively do the above

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 6:55 am
by davesaz
I have an active dislike for incessant posting of pictures and videos. Especially when they seem to be intended to convey meaning -- for me they don't even when it might be obvious to most people. I never play videos in particular and wish it were possible to have the browser not show or download them at all. Though that would result in more than a few posts that look empty.

Despite that, DrewVa is a townlean. Ultimate Liars is a scumlean. Karmeleon townlean. Nero townlean.

Keeping track of things is still a pain without in-thread voting, you don't get the flow info. I'm worried that town will have too little info to go on.

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 6:57 am
by Ramcius
In post 1000, Karmeleon wrote:
In post 996, Ramcius wrote:
In post 992, Karmeleon wrote:
In post 990, Ramcius wrote:
In post 983, Karmeleon wrote:
In post 981, Ramcius wrote:I'm your today's lynch and you try mock me like this as if I was town trying ML you?
Parroting "my goal is to lynch scum" while not doing isn't town at all.
And what you doing is considered town?
No speech, just action
But discussion is a way to find scum. Are you afraid to slip more?
Speech: "I'm going to find scum"

Action: Actively do the above
so, go, find scum, if you want, all I said was that my goal is to lynch them

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 7:02 am
by Karmeleon
In post 1002, Ramcius wrote:
In post 1000, Karmeleon wrote:
In post 996, Ramcius wrote:
In post 992, Karmeleon wrote:
In post 990, Ramcius wrote:
In post 983, Karmeleon wrote:
In post 981, Ramcius wrote:I'm your today's lynch and you try mock me like this as if I was town trying ML you?
Parroting "my goal is to lynch scum" while not doing isn't town at all.
And what you doing is considered town?
No speech, just action
But discussion is a way to find scum. Are you afraid to slip more?
Speech: "I'm going to find scum"

Action: Actively do the above
so, go, find scum, if you want,
all I said was that my goal is to lynch them
and that's the problem.

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 7:31 am
by Ramcius
In post 1003, Karmeleon wrote: and that's the problem.
Maybe try be more towny, if you actual town. It might solve your problem

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 7:39 am
by Elsa Jay
In post 995, DrewVa wrote:
In post 987, Karmeleon wrote:VOTE: The Last Knight
Why TLK over Ramicius?
My reasoning is Ramcius fits the category of "asshole townie" while TLK is just scummy. Just reading his responses scream "I hate this shit town why am I apart of it". Still could be scum, but it's more lilely for TLK to flip scum here.

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 7:40 am
by The Last Knight
In post 963, Ramcius wrote:Karmeleon, are you trying get 2 MLs for your team? Get me first, then Elsa after my townflip?

I stopped, because I felt Elsa might be really bad town, I don't think scum would admit to not try to progress game and on top hindering our progress with 2 "for fun" scumreads on BEF and Alonso.

You ignoring whole that part, but pointing out pointless afterfight banter as a something susp is laughable

I still want Elsa dead, just to be sure, but scum lynch > PL.

VOTE: Karmeleon
In post 985, profii wrote: I think that's your lot - If I missed anyone I blame the alt slippers :p

reflecting back on that - voting TLK
In post 987, Karmeleon wrote:VOTE: The Last Knight

RCEnigma (1) -- The Last Knight
Emperors New Groove (1) -- DrewVa
Something_Smart (1) -- Something_Smart
The Last Knight (4) -- RCEnigma, Elsa Jay, profii, Karmeleon
Karmeleon (1) -- Ramcius
Alonzo (1) -- Emperors New Groove

Unknown: Thanos, Ultimate Liars, McQueen, Davesaz, Almost Chara, Cheeky Dancer, Thea Alpine, Gamma Emerald, Xtoxm, BrightEyedFish, Nev and Max, Emperor FlippyNips, Alonzo, Nero Cain

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 7:42 am
by davesaz
Don't really understand what Karmeleon is seeing in Ramcius play or vice versa. The back and forth is a bunch of I'm acting town, no you're not I'm acting town. An explanation would help.

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 8:10 am
by profii
If we form a majority lynch in advance of end of day vote does it take over?

Nope. Also, Happy Scumday.

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 8:16 am
by Ramcius
In post 1007, davesaz wrote:Don't really understand what Karmeleon is seeing in Ramcius play or vice versa. The back and forth is a bunch of I'm acting town, no you're not I'm acting town. An explanation would help.
He ignored all my argument with Elsa and quoted pointless banter after I felt that Elsa might be town. What pinged me was how he managed to see SvS there and why he voted me, when Elsa is way easier to push. Now he is indirectly telling me that he isn't scum. I guess that sums it up

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 8:34 am
by Cheeky Dancer
In post 878, Karmeleon wrote:Is it just me or the last four pages have absolutely no reads?
You're not the only one thinking that. I've been struggling to get reads on people. So far on pg 37 and had nero & mcqueen still as town .
In post 917, Almost Chara wrote:Trying to catch up.. doing some ISO skimming.. who is Formerfish??

~The older head (but not necessarily the wiser)
Formerfish is a somewhat belligerent player who frequented newbie queue and still did, last time I saw. His scum & town meta was somewhat obvious when seen. For some reason I keep thinking ram is formerfish .

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 8:46 am
by profii
In post 1008, profii wrote:If we form a majority lynch in advance of end of day vote does it take over?

Nope. Also, Happy Scumday.
Ta & ta!

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 9:10 am
by DrewVa
In post 999, Karmeleon wrote:
In post 995, DrewVa wrote:
In post 987, Karmeleon wrote:VOTE: The Last Knight
Why TLK over Ramicius?
profii voted TLK and I want an actual wagon going rather than multiple vanity wagons by the end of the day.
I could do TLK, I just think Ram is scummier.

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 9:15 am
by Ramcius
In post 1012, DrewVa wrote:
In post 999, Karmeleon wrote:
In post 995, DrewVa wrote:
In post 987, Karmeleon wrote:VOTE: The Last Knight
Why TLK over Ramicius?
profii voted TLK and I want an actual wagon going rather than multiple vanity wagons by the end of the day.
I could do TLK, I just think Ram is scummier.
Am I scumiest person in game?

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 9:16 am
by DrewVa
In post 1001, davesaz wrote:I have an active dislike for incessant posting of pictures and videos. Especially when they seem to be intended to convey meaning -- for me they don't even when it might be obvious to most people. I never play videos in particular and wish it were possible to have the browser not show or download them at all. Though that would result in more than a few posts that look empty.

Despite that, DrewVa is a townlean. Ultimate Liars is a scumlean. Karmeleon townlean. Nero townlean.

Keeping track of things is still a pain without in-thread voting, you don't get the flow info. I'm worried that town will have too little info to go on.
I assume you’ve heard of crumbing? :lol:

Well, that’s how I crumb or sometimes, just have fun but I also try to be considerate of the fact that some people are phone posting, so I encapsolate all videos with actual visual effects and/or larger pictures in spoiler tags, to not clutter up the thread, so nobody is forced to clicked them.

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 9:18 am
by davesaz
In post 976, DrewVa wrote: Saying, Xslot can die can be townie. OTOH, saying I want Xslot dead, gives me the heebie jeebies.
Leaving aside who xslot is in relationship to the saying, how is one different than the other?
I can anticipate an answer but would like to hear what you think.

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 9:19 am
by DrewVa
In post 1004, Ramcius wrote:
In post 1003, Karmeleon wrote: and that's the problem.
Maybe try be more towny, if you actual town. It might solve your problem
How is Karmelon not townie?

Sorting people > townie than tunneling.

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 9:21 am
by DrewVa
In post 1005, Elsa Jay wrote:
In post 995, DrewVa wrote:
In post 987, Karmeleon wrote:VOTE: The Last Knight
Why TLK over Ramicius?
My reasoning is Ramcius fits the category of "asshole townie" while TLK is just scummy. Just reading his responses scream "I hate this shit town why am I apart of it". Still could be scum, but it's more lilely for TLK to flip scum here.

Alright, I’ll switch our vote to TLK then.

VOTE: TLK

I still much prefer Ram. :/

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 9:23 am
by Karmeleon
In post 1009, Ramcius wrote:
In post 1007, davesaz wrote:Don't really understand what Karmeleon is seeing in Ramcius play or vice versa. The back and forth is a bunch of I'm acting town, no you're not I'm acting town. An explanation would help.
He ignored all my argument with Elsa and quoted pointless banter after I felt that Elsa might be town. What pinged me was how he managed to see SvS there and why he voted me, when Elsa is way easier to push. Now he is indirectly telling me that he isn't scum. I guess that sums it up
I didn't say it was SvS, I said it was an useless exchange and that looks bad for both sides, but not that it's a scum-scum interaction.

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 9:24 am
by DrewVa
In post 1010, Cheeky Dancer wrote:
In post 878, Karmeleon wrote:Is it just me or the last four pages have absolutely no reads?
You're not the only one thinking that. I've been struggling to get reads on people. So far on pg 37 and had nero & mcqueen still as town .
In post 917, Almost Chara wrote:Trying to catch up.. doing some ISO skimming.. who is Formerfish??

~The older head (but not necessarily the wiser)
Formerfish is a somewhat belligerent player who frequented newbie queue and still did, last time I saw. His scum & town meta was somewhat obvious when seen. For some reason I keep thinking ram is formerfish .
FF was 1/2 of a scum hydra in DnD mafia.

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 9:25 am
by davesaz
In post 1012, DrewVa wrote:
In post 999, Karmeleon wrote:
In post 995, DrewVa wrote:
In post 987, Karmeleon wrote:VOTE: The Last Knight
Why TLK over Ramicius?
profii voted TLK and I want an actual wagon going rather than multiple vanity wagons by the end of the day.
I could do TLK, I just think Ram is scummier.
I'm interested in hearing some reasons, if it's something other than/additional to the thing I just asked about.

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 9:29 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 1003, Karmeleon wrote:
In post 1002, Ramcius wrote:
In post 1000, Karmeleon wrote:
In post 996, Ramcius wrote:
In post 992, Karmeleon wrote:
In post 990, Ramcius wrote:
In post 983, Karmeleon wrote:
In post 981, Ramcius wrote:I'm your today's lynch and you try mock me like this as if I was town trying ML you?
Parroting "my goal is to lynch scum" while not doing isn't town at all.
And what you doing is considered town?
No speech, just action
But discussion is a way to find scum. Are you afraid to slip more?
Speech: "I'm going to find scum"

Action: Actively do the above
so, go, find scum, if you want,
all I said was that my goal is to lynch them
and that's the problem.
Pardon?

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 9:31 am
by Karmeleon
In post 1021, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1003, Karmeleon wrote:
In post 1002, Ramcius wrote:
In post 1000, Karmeleon wrote:
In post 996, Ramcius wrote:
In post 992, Karmeleon wrote:
In post 990, Ramcius wrote:
In post 983, Karmeleon wrote:
In post 981, Ramcius wrote:I'm your today's lynch and you try mock me like this as if I was town trying ML you?
Parroting "my goal is to lynch scum" while not doing isn't town at all.
And what you doing is considered town?
No speech, just action
But discussion is a way to find scum. Are you afraid to slip more?
Speech: "I'm going to find scum"

Action: Actively do the above
so, go, find scum, if you want,
all I said was that my goal is to lynch them
and that's the problem.
Pardon?
I've been arguing he's only saying his goal is to lynch scum but not doing anything to achieve the goal.

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 9:31 am
by DrewVa
In post 1013, Ramcius wrote:
In post 1012, DrewVa wrote:
In post 999, Karmeleon wrote:
In post 995, DrewVa wrote:
In post 987, Karmeleon wrote:VOTE: The Last Knight
Why TLK over Ramicius?
profii voted TLK and I want an actual wagon going rather than multiple vanity wagons by the end of the day.
I could do TLK, I just think Ram is scummier.
Am I scumiest person in game?
I didn’t think so initially. I thought your push on Thanos for giving us an easy townread was fine but then you said you wanted Elsa “dead” and now are accusing someone, I read as obvtown and accusing him of “slipping”? which I don’t see at all, so yeah, that looks scummy to me.

But TLK lynch is preferred over you, so I guess I’ll have to go with that then. I suppose you could just be bad town because I’m obviously disagreeing with your pushes. \_0_/

I wasn’t necessarily sr Thanos, I just thought a critical push on that read on us was fine.

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 9:33 am
by The Last Knight
C'mon guys, you don't want to vote to lynch me... Not if you're town anyway. Scum can vote for me all they want. Careful of that hammer!

But I will continue to update this unofficial VC as the votes come in. And others should feel free to do so, if they so desire.