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Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:16 am
by Creature
In post 10524, Ramcius wrote:Secret voting was cool mechanic and forced people to do more actual scumhunting instead of relying on VCA
Nah, it was annoying and would rather not play under that mechanism again, atleast not as town.

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:26 am
by Gollum
Kinda offended that you guys think my scum game is so bad that I couldn't win.

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:38 am
by the worst
No I just had this horrible gut feeling it would be a mechanical town win and was super super happy to see that didn't happen :D

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:42 am
by Ramcius
In post 10525, Creature wrote:
In post 10524, Ramcius wrote:Secret voting was cool mechanic and forced people to do more actual scumhunting instead of relying on VCA
Nah, it was annoying and would rather not play under that mechanism again, atleast not as town.
Why it was annoying?

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:48 am
by Elsa Jay
Fornever Fish wrote:If Elsa was dead N2 as someone asked to do it... :lol:

I'm legit never joining game with him ever again
#ElsaPulledAFish

Frankly I'm better at surviving then I am at killing scum. If I'm more scummy assume town and if I'm more townie assume scum.

One day I won't get fooled and outtrick myself and eventually get a better memory.

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:50 am
by Boonskiies
It’s just different and a side of Mafia that people generally don’t have to think or worry about. I knew going in that the choice would be annoying, but it definitely worked out, and I don’t think this game would as been as great had it not had the secret voting.

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:50 am
by Boonskiies
I think this style hit Formerfish, Creature, and UnaBombah the hardest. :lol:

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:55 am
by Performer
man, what a game....congrats scum on the win

though frustrating, all these 1-shots resulted in much less risk of unbalance

thanks for moderating, tw & boon

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:56 am
by Boonskiies
Oh yeah, The Worst was great. Couldn’t have gone through this without him.

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:57 am
by Ramcius
In post 10529, Elsa Jay wrote:
Fornever Fish wrote:If Elsa was dead N2 as someone asked to do it... :lol:

I'm legit never joining game with him ever again
#ElsaPulledAFish

Frankly I'm better at surviving then I am at killing scum. If I'm more scummy assume town and if I'm more townie assume scum.

One day I won't get fooled and outtrick myself and eventually get a better memory.
FYI, I'm not FF alt...

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:59 am
by Xtoxm
In post 10527, the worst wrote:No I just had this horrible gut feeling it would be a mechanical town win and was super super happy to see that didn't happen :D
i think it would have been if
1. more town had treated the boonus rounds like jingle did
2. if scum hadnt rolled a player like me/jingle/dave who is comfortable with mechanics at a deep level to navigate the scum ship through the rocks

game went to mylo and we won so i cant really complain
i do think we had a helthy dose of town underplaying to make this win possible

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:59 am
by Boonskiies
In post 10532, Performer wrote:man, what a game....congrats scum on the win

though frustrating, all these 1-shots resulted in much less risk of unbalance

thanks for moderating, tw & boon
I actually took the 1-shot and charge Mechanic from Singleton.

However, he did it in a different way . Everyone was given a charge from the beginning, and they didn’t use it properly. I added the modifier bit from the BOONus Rounds to get that.

I actually really loved the usage of the BOONus Rounds and watching players go into “what’s best for town”

There was strong town play this game overall.

Just a great battle between town and scum.

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:00 am
by Jingle
In post 10529, Elsa Jay wrote:Frankly I'm better at surviving then I am at killing scum. If I'm more scummy assume town and if I'm more townie assume scum.
Or sheep Jingle. I think I have a 100% rate at reading you.

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:02 am
by Xtoxm
In post 10530, Boonskiies wrote:It’s just different and a side of Mafia that people generally don’t have to think or worry about. I knew going in that the choice would be annoying, but it definitely worked out, and I don’t think this game would as been as great had it not had the secret voting.
i enjoyed the secret voting
it took a little getting used to on day one but then was fine imo
im not a player that really bothers much with vca or wagon analysis anyway

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:03 am
by Xtoxm
and yeah gj modding tw and boon

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:05 am
by Krazy
To be honest, I think the likelihood of a mechanical town win would have been more likely except for the technical complexity of the setup.

It took the following for this scum win:
>A new player confusing two entirely separate mechanical results (fruit vs. sticky fruit)
>A town player using an incredibly negative-utility ability to scum n1
>A scum player pocketing, by accident, the player that controlled the frequency charges of night actions (indirectly)
>Town losing a significant number of 1v1s (S_S vs. TLK, BEF vs. profii, etc.)
>A town player lying about whether they were voting a super saint and thus baiting a vig shot

And that's not even including the BEF claim surrounding the governor action lol

Scum played well but town has a hard time winning the war when it is losing every individual battle, in addition to several unintentional arguable-gamethrows/serious mistakes.

Given how many battles town lost, that scum won this by as thin a margin as they did reinforces how town-sided this setup was :P

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:05 am
by RCEnigma
I will say when Una claimed town ducky I felt extremely betrayed.... TW <.<

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:09 am
by Gamma Emerald
BrightEyedFish, swear you won't make any stupid ass ploys like you did here and maybe I'll consider playing with you in the future. Because as it is I see you as a massive disruption in games and I don't like that.

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:15 am
by Gollum
Tbf, xtoxm really did help me and was a huge asset but you guys that think I have no scum game can suck my salty balls

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:17 am
by Jingle
In post 10541, RCEnigma wrote:I will say when Una claimed town ducky I felt extremely betrayed.... TW <.<
Yeah, duck. You were supposed to make someone who couldn't otherwise get townread the town ducky. Someone like RCE :P

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:17 am
by Jingle
In post 10543, Gollum wrote:Tbf, xtoxm really did help me and was a huge asset but you guys that think I have no scum game can suck my salty balls
Nero's the worst scum player who made it to MYLO, by far. All of the other scum alive in MYLO were way better.

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:26 am
by Boonskiies
I felt from the beginning that Nero Cain specifically was going to be the last scum. He slid under the radar pretty well, and got into so many BOONus Rounds.

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:27 am
by Creature
In post 10546, Boonskiies wrote:I felt from the beginning that Nero Cain specifically was going to be the last scum. He slid under the radar pretty well, and got into so many BOONus Rounds.
He's like the definition of "under the radar": aka someone who wasn't widely townread at all, but just blended in while town tunneled each other.

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:37 am
by Boonskiies
I really felt the cohesion of that team after Flips died. It was really cool to watch this play out.

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:39 am
by Xtoxm
In post 10545, Jingle wrote:
In post 10543, Gollum wrote:Tbf, xtoxm really did help me and was a huge asset but you guys that think I have no scum game can suck my salty balls
Nero's the worst scum player who made it to MYLO, by far. All of the other scum alive in MYLO were way better.
i was alive in mylo btw
so this is actually an insult when i feel like you meant it in jest